Comments on: New Video Appears to Show Vigilante Border Murder http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Tue, 21 May 2013 20:45:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Dave http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-105659 Dave Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:12:46 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-105659 I think that this video is most likely a fake. HOWEVER I think that its a great idea to make this type of video and publish it on the internet. People would eventually see it and it would create a fear that would hopefully stop/minimize the number of people that would attempt to enter the country illegally with narcotics. The narcotics trade is responsible for thousands of REAL murders on our southern border every year. If the drug trade were to go away, so would those sensless REAL deaths. I think that this video is most likely a fake. HOWEVER I think that its a great idea to make this type of video and publish it on the internet. People would eventually see it and it would create a fear that would hopefully stop/minimize the number of people that would attempt to enter the country illegally with narcotics. The narcotics trade is responsible for thousands of REAL murders on our southern border every year. If the drug trade were to go away, so would those sensless REAL deaths.

]]> By: Juan Chavez http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-99544 Juan Chavez Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:21:33 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-99544 Jeff Schwilk and Robert Crooks: I recognized those two names as men James Chase fired from California Minutemen for bad behavior. I was there. Crooks told Chase he wanted to kill smugglers and sell the dope. Chase fired him and physical pulled his card out of crooks wallet. I thought there was going to be violence. Schwilk was demoted from manager for endangering people. He was then fired for attempting a gropup takeover. He then went on to destroy indians homes up near Escondido. Chase could not believe the police let him destroy illegals homes in the bush. Chase quit because he is for reporting no harming illegal aliens. In fact he watered and fed them. Not hardly a Nativist. Has Mexican family. Jeff Schwilk and Robert Crooks: I recognized those two names as men James Chase fired from California Minutemen for bad behavior. I was there. Crooks told Chase he wanted to kill smugglers and sell the dope. Chase fired him and physical pulled his card out of crooks wallet. I thought there was going to be violence. Schwilk was demoted from manager for endangering people. He was then fired for attempting a gropup takeover. He then went on to destroy indians homes up near Escondido. Chase could not believe the police let him destroy illegals homes in the bush. Chase quit because he is for reporting no harming illegal aliens. In fact he watered and fed them. Not hardly a Nativist. Has Mexican family.

]]> By: teneisha http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-19102 teneisha Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:35:45 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-19102 real or not..this stuff isnt funny real or not..this stuff isnt funny

]]> By: littlemex http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-12463 littlemex Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:44:10 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-12463 Let the games begin!!! No mercy for anyone!!! The time is comming to an end for you!!! God is with me!!! Let the games begin!!! No mercy for anyone!!! The time is comming to an end for you!!! God is with me!!!

]]> By: JT Ready http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-7172 JT Ready Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:22:44 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-7172 Just one more reason to completely secure the borders with our Marine Corps. to prevent this, um, trajedy?/comedy, from really happening. Just one more reason to completely secure the borders with our Marine Corps. to prevent this, um, trajedy?/comedy, from really happening.

]]> By: Enuff http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-7106 Enuff Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:48:33 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-7106 Contact the FBI immediately. This is what we've been reporting to them all along. Why are people standing still and allowing vigilantes to go on human hunts. Contact the FBI immediately. This is what we’ve been reporting to them all along. Why are people standing still and allowing vigilantes to go on human hunts.

]]> By: Pat http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-3365 Pat Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:49:24 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-3365 It's funny how blog readers believe what they read without question. Just look at the comments above this one. http://www.10news.com/news/13923784/detail.html It’s funny how blog readers believe what they read without question. Just look at the comments above this one.

http://www.10news.com/news/13923784/detail.html

]]> By: Harley http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-3176 Harley Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:40:47 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-3176 Real or not !! If they want to come into the USA they need to follow the LAW'S We had better wake up before it is to late. They want to are and are taking over the USA. We need to stand up and FIGHT, WAR IS WAR DEATH IS WAR. LOOK AROUND YOU ASSHOLES! What do you see ? SHOOT EM ALL IN NEED BE OR ROUND THEM UP AND SEND THEM TO IRAC AND BRING OUR BOYS HOME !! Our boys are in Irac fighting for us . Why don't we try fighting for what we have at home ? Real or not !! If they want to come into the USA they need to follow the LAW’S We had better wake up before it is to late. They want to are and are taking over the USA. We need to stand up and FIGHT, WAR IS WAR DEATH IS WAR. LOOK AROUND YOU ASSHOLES! What do you see ? SHOOT EM ALL IN NEED BE OR ROUND THEM UP AND SEND THEM TO IRAC AND BRING OUR BOYS HOME !! Our boys are in Irac fighting for us . Why don’t we try fighting for what we have at home ?

]]> By: Kevin Riley O'Keeffe http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-527 Kevin Riley O'Keeffe Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:34:37 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-527 What makes anyone take that film seriously? It looks like a rather obvious fake to me. The whole point of why they'd bury that guy would be in order to hide the evidence of a murder; there's simply no way they'd mark it with stones and a make-shift cross. A decidedly unconvincing forgery. What makes anyone take that film seriously? It looks like a rather obvious fake to me. The whole point of why they’d bury that guy would be in order to hide the evidence of a murder; there’s simply no way they’d mark it with stones and a make-shift cross. A decidedly unconvincing forgery.

]]> By: Lexie http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-235 Lexie Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:52:13 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-235 The fact of that matter is this, plain and simple. We have a group of individuals that call themselves "patriots" and feel they have every right to stand on the border and fire "warning" shots at immigrants making the journey. Regardless if anyone was actually killed in the making of the video, shots WERE indeed fired. The original video was captured before the removal of it, on these activists\vigilante's websites. A while later it was then edited and reposted on YouTube, Once they got heat from that, they made a "spoof" video to try and cover their tracks, making it seem harmless and jokingly mean spirited. If ANYONE should be on the border, it needs to be police officers and Federal Agents, protecting the lives of people who only seek to make a better life for themselves. And we could go on all day long about crimes that illegals commit, but I personally promise that if we posted crimes of regular everyday AMERICANS the posts would be much more lengthly. Its the normal defense mechanism, of border vigilante's and their supporters, to place cherry picked "facts" to try to cloud the judgment of fellow Americans, by scaring them, and threatening their personal safety. Bottom line...The Minutemen and SOS groups, have gone to an all time low and no allow anything that breaths a membership to their hate groups. The fact of that matter is this, plain and simple.

We have a group of individuals that call themselves “patriots” and feel they have every right to stand on the border and fire “warning” shots at immigrants making the journey.

Regardless if anyone was actually killed in the making of the video, shots WERE indeed fired.

The original video was captured before the removal of it, on these activists\vigilante’s websites.

A while later it was then edited and reposted on YouTube,

Once they got heat from that, they made a “spoof” video to try and cover their tracks, making it seem harmless and jokingly mean spirited.

If ANYONE should be on the border, it needs to be police officers and Federal Agents, protecting the lives of people who only seek to make a better life for themselves.

And we could go on all day long about crimes that illegals commit, but I personally promise that if we posted crimes of regular everyday AMERICANS the posts would be much more lengthly.

Its the normal defense mechanism, of border vigilante’s and their supporters, to place cherry picked “facts” to try to cloud the judgment of fellow Americans, by scaring them, and threatening their personal safety.

Bottom line…The Minutemen and SOS groups, have gone to an all time low and no allow anything that breaths a membership to their hate groups.

]]> By: Chuck http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-206 Chuck Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:17:37 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-206 Yeah, And while we're at it lets send e-mails about the students executed in VA, the soilder who was hit by a drunk illegal & killed, the 16 yr. old girl that was raped & murdered "he said that he held his foot on her throat until she didn't move anymore", Etc. to the president, all your senators & representives, & all the presidental canadates. Yeah, And while we’re at it lets send e-mails about the students executed in VA, the soilder who was hit by a drunk illegal & killed, the 16 yr. old girl that was raped & murdered “he said that he held his foot on her throat until she didn’t move anymore”, Etc. to the president, all your senators & representives, & all the presidental canadates.

]]> By: tom scott http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-147 tom scott Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:17:46 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-147 Hey, why can't I watch the video? Who wrote the script for this? Scott Beauchamp? Hey, why can’t I watch the video? Who wrote the script for this? Scott Beauchamp?

]]> By: Mazsys http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Mazsys Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:34:33 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-145 This is clearly a fake. For one thing, the person who made it mimicked the first video, which was real, and mistakenly thought there were two people on the video, there were not. Also, all they had to do was call Leland to know this is not him, he has a very distinctive voice. And why run an old post of Schwilk? Schwilk has been trying to keep people from supporting Little Dog, for well over a year. This is clearly a fake.

For one thing, the person who made it mimicked the first video, which was real, and mistakenly thought there were two people on the video, there were not.

Also, all they had to do was call Leland to know this is not him, he has a very distinctive voice.

And why run an old post of Schwilk? Schwilk has been trying to keep people from supporting Little Dog, for well over a year.

]]> By: Ron Hinton http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Ron Hinton Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:46:29 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-138 Don't be so gull-a-bull. This is obviously a fake. Don’t be so gull-a-bull. This is obviously a fake.

]]> By: BorderRaven http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-134 BorderRaven Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:29:04 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-134 The inscription at the base of the Statue of Liberty, is a work of art, it is not government policy. The inscription at the base of the Statue of Liberty, is a work of art, it is not government policy.

]]> By: r@d@r http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-128 r@d@r Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:21:26 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-128 <p>oops. guess we need to re-write that bit at the bottom of the statue of liberty - "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, so i can <em>hunt them down and shoot them like dogs</em> - i lift my M16 beside the golden door." </p> <p>maybe i'm naive, but i have a funny feeling the FBI does not like these guys running around in the dark shooting at anything that moves. even if they didn't care about the mexican nationals or whoever else was sneaking across the border, they'd probably be somewhat concerned about their own personnel coming under fire.....</p> oops. guess we need to re-write that bit at the bottom of the statue of liberty – “give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, so i can hunt them down and shoot them like dogs – i lift my M16 beside the golden door.”

maybe i’m naive, but i have a funny feeling the FBI does not like these guys running around in the dark shooting at anything that moves. even if they didn’t care about the mexican nationals or whoever else was sneaking across the border, they’d probably be somewhat concerned about their own personnel coming under fire…..

]]> By: quantumflux http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-124 quantumflux Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:01:55 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-124 THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE AND TOTAL OUTRAGE I AM SCREAMING AND FOAMING AT THE MOUTH MAD RIGHT NOW!!! I AM ALMOST IN TEARS!!! I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO FURIOUS IN MY LIFE!!! There. That felt better. This video *MUST* receive media attention else the FBI won't do a thing about it. I challenge everyone to e-mail this article/video to as many news networks as possible!! E-mail this video/article to the President, all your Senators and Represenatives, all of the presidential candidates, and Mexico's president! THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE AND TOTAL OUTRAGE I AM SCREAMING AND FOAMING AT THE MOUTH MAD RIGHT NOW!!! I AM ALMOST IN TEARS!!! I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO FURIOUS IN MY LIFE!!!

There. That felt better. This video *MUST* receive media attention else the FBI won’t do a thing about it. I challenge everyone to e-mail this article/video to as many news networks as possible!! E-mail this video/article to the President, all your Senators and Represenatives, all of the presidential candidates, and Mexico’s president!

]]> By: MM Watch http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-122 MM Watch Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:38:12 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-122 Schwilk and the SDMM should have a difficult time disclaiming any relationship with Crooks. http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:5icd7lxnbCkJ:www.immigrationwatchdog.com/%3Fp%3D1087+%22lil+dog%22+%2B+%22minutemen%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us May, 2006 - "Lil Dog has requested assistance from any MM that are able to come out for a day or more to help him border watch. Due to the heightened threat right now, I strongly suggest you go armed. Contact Lil Dog [get contact info from SanDiegoMinutemen.com] if you can help or have any questions." Schwilk and the SDMM should have a difficult time disclaiming any relationship with Crooks.

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=.....&gl=us

May, 2006 -

“Lil Dog has requested assistance from any MM that are able to come out for a day or more to help him border watch. Due to the heightened threat right now, I strongly suggest you go armed. Contact Lil Dog [get contact info from SanDiegoMinutemen.com] if you can help or have any questions.”

]]> By: David Tyler http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-121 David Tyler Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:25:19 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/08/13/new-video-appears-to-show-vigilante-border-murder/#comment-121 This report defies words.By the time one group of human beimgs is hunting another group we have a serious problem to contend with.That someone who did such a thing would tape it,to be appreciated by others goes beyond any means of human expression I know with which to express my own personal disgust.This junk needs to come to a screeching halt.No way these guys can just hunt human beings like game,like it is some kind of sport,and publicly advertise it and no one will react.What do they want?To kill others without consequence or restraint.These guys need a prison cell to afford them plenty of time to reflect on just what the meaning of human life is. This report defies words.By the time one group of human beimgs is hunting another group we have a serious problem to contend with.That someone who did such a thing would tape it,to be appreciated by others goes beyond any means of human expression I know with which to express my own personal disgust.This junk needs to come to a screeching halt.No way these guys can just hunt human beings like game,like it is some kind of sport,and publicly advertise it and no one will react.What do they want?To kill others without consequence or restraint.These guys need a prison cell to afford them plenty of time to reflect on just what the meaning of human life is.

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