Face of Hate: Curtis Allgier Explained
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When neo-Nazi Curtis Allgier allegedly shot and killed a corrections officer who was transporting Allgier to a hospital in Salt Lake City June 25, media accounts of the murder invariably focused on the 27-year-old skinhead’s most recent mug shot, showing Allgier’s totally tattoo-covered face. As his wife put it, Allgier had the “courage to put his beliefs on his entire body.”
Here’s an explanation of the meaning behind some the arcane symbols inked on the alleged cop-killer’s visage:
Crucified Skinhead (right cheek) –– The image of a skinhead on a cross symbolizes the persecution of working-class skinheads by the upper class.
Three Intersecting Triangles (right jaw) –– This symbol is known as a valknut or volknut. Among non-racist pagans, it’s a sign of the afterlife and a binding of the soul to Odin, chief among the Norse gods. Among racist pagans, it signifies “that one is ready to be taken into the ranks of Odin’s chosen warriors.”
5150 (under the right eye) –– A likely reference to the California statute that allows people to be involuntarily committed to a mental hospital if they are deemed to be a danger to themselves or others, according to Mark Pitcavage of the Anti-Defamation League.
Hatebreed (upper lip) –– Hatebreed is a hardcore punk band popular among racist skinheads.
Iron Crosses (forehead temples) –– A German military decoration dating to the early 19th century that was made famous by the Nazis.
SS Lightning Bolts (jawbones) –– A symbol of the Schutzstaffel (“Protective Squadron”), or SS, the Nazi police force that administered the death camps and staffed the mobile killing units known as Einsatzgruppen. After the war, the entire SS was declared a criminal organization by the Nuremburg judges.
Blood, Honor, and Loyalty (collarbone) –– A phrase used heavily by racist skinheads and other neo-Nazis in rock lyrics, clothing and tattoos.
on August 24th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
so let me see if i understand. this guy unnaturally darkened a lot of his skin to show how much he favors light skin? he sounds smart, no?
on August 29th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
What is wrong with these people? If they think that they are going to get into heaven being this way, they are totally crazy. God does not want anyone amongst His people if they are going to hurt any of His children. It does not matter if they are Black, White, Mexican or Hispanic, Asian, or even from outerspace. I think if I had a son or daughter like that, I would disown them. Anyone that is married to someone like this does not need to have children either. HATERS are not allowed in this world.
on August 31st, 2007 at 6:46 am
with regards to Phyllis’s comment-
I don’t think there is a need to bring god into the picture. Hate is hate and we know that people have hated in the name of “god” too.
on August 31st, 2007 at 12:25 pm
I can’t help but wonder if this man has trouble getting employment. Who would hire him with his face altered to offend?
on September 2nd, 2007 at 10:56 am
Eventually he will die and the world will be rid of him. Unfortunately, the “commitment” he shows through his tattoos and his crimes speak volumes to other young men who grow twisted like he has. Although he’s just a punk thug, he will become a martyr to some - and an example to others. That’s how these things go. In the mean time the correctional community still has to deal with him and the officer who was killed still has a mourning family who will not receive closure for decades to come, while this man still sits in prison and lives out his hate. Thanks’ to SPL Center for doing their work and bringing these things truthfully to light.
on September 6th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Josh: Just imagine the look on his face if/when he comes to that same conclusion.
If he decided to say good-bye to his past, and were to convert, I’d hate to see his tattoo-removal bill…
on September 19th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
i think these people are crazy and real idiots
on September 29th, 2007 at 6:22 am
Personally, i think there should be a public hanging so all these hate groups can see what happens
on October 8th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Roderick, maybe we should start with the Jena 6 eh? Perfect definition of a hate group there! There’s much more black-on-White hate crimes than White-on-black, so yeah why not hang them? Sounds good to me hypocrit.
Suzy, sure he has trouble finding employment. But if a black walks in with malcom x tat’d on his forehead he’s hired! Oh wait, they get unemployment and sell drugs, why would they need to work?
Josh, you sound like a genius yourself. Did you think of that comment all by yourself?
Phyllis, who the hell do you think you are to say who’s allowed in this world? Don’t make me laugh. God also doesn’t like judgemental people.
Very annoyed,
I think you’re an idiot for typing such an immature comment. Spare yourself further humiliation and shut up. Thanks.
on October 9th, 2007 at 7:13 am
Tammy Jo, your comment made zero sense, but thank you for the insight on ignorance and hatred.
on October 9th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Its sad that now days any white male thats is proud to be white is considered a racist or a hater of any other race.
on October 9th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
Somebody like Curtis has to do things as a white male to survive in a black and brown dominated prison now days. Just like Troy kell
on October 21st, 2007 at 2:20 pm
its born through fear thats why they cover there body with hate tattos im not racist but the blacks rape so many whites in prison they have to defend themself somehow and this is the only way in prison by joining a race hate group
troy kell was not racist before prison while in prison into 2nd year of his sentance black male said im gonna take yar ass now what the fuck would you do ?? stand alone allow him to take yar ass or join race group as theses r only two options ya have
as for calling them animals yeah curtis and troy r gonna act like animals to survive the animal behaviour of the blacks
im not racist iv just told ya how it really is we can sit and say ohhhhh look what they did but if we were in there shoes you bet we would do same
on November 1st, 2007 at 1:45 pm
I agree with Johns comments 100%.
Why cant we be proud to be white? We allow other races to express themselves, We have a lot to be proud off, is it wrong to be a proud White……..hell no. Blacks are more racist than anyone.
on November 30th, 2007 at 11:35 am
I do believe prisons breed hatre…and yes blacks rape whites as well as whites rapes black ..the statistics are horrible because no one is immune from prison rape…it happens and the people who run the prisons allow it…it there were more compassionate people running prisons, the hate groups would cease to exist…when you live in a atmosphere of hatred, you become a hater..I don’t believe Curtis hates other races, he loves being white and did not have a choice in joining the group that would protect him the most….everyone should love the race they are , but should also love and respect other races too…haters don’t got to Heaven.
on November 30th, 2007 at 11:51 pm
Wow you couldn’t be farther from the truth.The black inmate his name was Roy Blackmon by the way was running at the mouth about white women and sporting his colors as Troy put it. Thats why he got stapped up. White people in prison dont fear blacks, like the Arian Brotherhood.
on November 30th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
Tracy, Roy Blackmon said he was going to rape Troy, please Troy is a Gladiator
on December 10th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Do some of you actually think this guy’s behavior is justified because he is scared of how to survive in confinement? That’s even worse than giving an alcoholic a bottle of whiskey because he will go through DT’s if he’s forced to sober-up. There are natural consequences for your actions, whether it’s a hangover, DT’s or an ass-whooping in prison. You can’t justify someone’s bad behavior because they are scared. Being scared can be a good thing. Maybe if they are scared enough they will think hard enough about what they want to do that they decide not to do it. Though, based on their history, you really can’t accuse them of being that smart. Whether you’re a spouse or a chat-room commando, telling people it’s OK to do what they want because doing what’s right may be uncomfortable or get them hurt - that makes you an enabler and you certainly are not part of the solution.
Also, there’s a huge difference between being judgmental and using good judgment. If more people had guts enough to point out the wrong and more people had sense enough to listen to them, then these idiots wouldn’t have such an easy way to go in doing the wrong they do.
It’s also incredibly immature to think that if prisons had “more compassionate” staff that the prison would be a safer place. That’s just stupid. The offender population of correctional institutions is not there for being benevolent - they are called offenders for a reason. They are the bad guys - not the staff. If you gave as much “compassion” to the staff as you did the inmates you would shed a lot more tears, believe me. Working in corrections is hell because of the offenders - they con you, assault you, threaten your family, run their criminal operations from the inside, assault each other, traffic drugs, conspire to conduct riots, riot, they rape each-other, they stage fights to draw in staff that they want to beat-rape-or kill. They throw bodily waste on you. You talk like offenders are just misunderstood little angles and the staff is a bunch of Nazis. That could not be further from the truth. Let’s not forget that the subject of this thread is a murderer who killed an over-the-hill prison guard because he wanted to get away. Is that how good people act? When they are babies people throw tantrums to get their way, when they grow up they may kill you to get it.
There are a lot of people posting hypothetical, theoretical nonsense on here trying to sound like Henry David Thoreau. It is admirable to hope for the best - but it’s reckless and dangerous to think that free-thinking human beings who have chosen to live like animals give a crap about your opinions. They only stop living like animals when they choose to - you can not do it for them. Like it or not, sometimes the truth doesn’t make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. And nothing straightens out your perspective like some guy shoving a shank into your belly a few times because he didn’t get what he wanted on his lunch tray. Lets just hope that none of you ever have to have an eye opening experience like that to get your head straight.
on January 10th, 2008 at 9:47 am
1st to Tracy - I agree 110% - the whole Troy Kell case makes a mockery of the constitution and justice. I am sickened by the “system” - the warehousing of individuals, in such corrupt, blatantly dangerous and highly abusive conditions is certainly not conducive with rehabilitation, correction or any kind of human like behavior. To say these people act like animals is a direct result of being placed in animalistic environments and forced to fight for everything - there’s no respect that isn’t taken (earned) there’s no compassion and “fellow inmates” are not seen as human beings, they are viewed as possible attackers - and NO ONE that hasn’t served time in a similar environment has the understanding to make any type of judgements - You cannot express an opinion about something you know nothing about - to say that a jury of your peers has judged you - when you’re an inmate and civilians sit on the jury is injustice at its finest. The entire system needs to be overhauled, revamped and reorganized - b/c the folks that will one day get out (on parole or serve their time out) are returning to society more angry and severely damaged - which explains the very high numbers of repeat offenders.
on January 30th, 2008 at 1:45 am
i’m not defending this guy… but i AM defending hatebreed. this thing says that hatebreed (the tattoo on his upper lip) are a punk band popular among racist skinheads. they are far from racist and it’s a little upsetting that they are lumped in with this kinda thing.
on May 18th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Amazing that folks are jumping in to defend a guy whose best friend was convicted of raping and killing two black children and who actually defended the guy by claiming the children deserved it!
How does that equate with white pride? I think it’s great to be proud of yourself and your cultural heritage. In fact, pretty much every major American holiday is a “white pride” day if you think about it. And I’m OK with that. But there’s a WORLD of difference between PRIDE and VIOLENCE. People who don’t get the difference are causing a huge disservice to all those who would be proud of their culture, no matter what it is.
And absolutely: whites should be proud of coming to my country and massacring my ancestors. I can see how that would be enormously comforting to you folks. Your many holocausts, from the crusades to the present, against everyone you’re scared of - that’s also something to be proud of.
My folks were here over 8,500 years before yours. Why don’t you “white power” people go back where you came from, wherever that is (dirt caves in southern Europe, I assume?).
on June 27th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
They should burn him at the stake for killing a cop, there’s no excuse. And the family of the dead cop should light ‘em up!
on July 2nd, 2008 at 8:25 am
Pour répondre à tout le monde, salut, moi c’est yannick et j’ai aussi la gueule tatouer. Pire que lui, j’ai la main de fatima sur le visage, sur mon site vous verrez les photos. C’est le même signe d’identité que la croix gammée, sauf que ma main de fatima et la croix gammée sont réellement que du tattoo. Si vous aussi, étiez tatoués?
il vous suffirez de vous couper la tête parce que vous avez pas respecter le chef indien en vous tatouant un indien avec des plumes… C’est vous les nazis qui autorisent le bourreau à couper la tête de n’importe qui, parce qu’il est tatouer, en plus avec la croix gammée. C’est que du tattoo. Hors le crime qu’il as commis, je ne dit pas, c’est condamnable, mais ce n’est pas la peine de lui mettre 20 ans de prison de plus, parce qu’il as la croix gammée. Toi je te condamne à 30 ans de prison parce que t’es gros ou grosse. Vous imaginez les conneries que vous dites quand même. Venez faire un tour sur mon blog, ça seras avec plaisir de débattre, Yannick g.
http://yannickgarcia.skyrock.com
on July 7th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I think he is the hottest thing i have ever seen in my life. i think you should let people be who they are and not critisize them for it. i dont think anyone here has the right to judge him at all. i dont think there is such things as sins. Live your life to the fullest and Fuck the rest.
I think he is the hottest guy i have ever seen!!!!!!!
on July 11th, 2008 at 9:45 am
I agree with Jezz, and a few of the other comments on here about there being nothing wrong to have pride in your race. The white race has every right and privilege to feel pride in our race, and every member of the race should indeed take pride in who they are. Other races take pride (fuck, look at fucking “African American” history month)- but when whites do- we are racist… talk about fucking hypocrisy and ignorance to the fullest. To all members of the white race out there- take pride in who you are, take pride in who we are, and never give up that fight- Ryde till the day you die, death before dishonor, always. I also encourage you all to do whatever you can to help this model example of our white race, the leader for us all- one, who no matter what has come his way, has always maintained strength and power- and will continue the fight. We all should, or die trying. No other options. You win or you die. Now to all of those ignorant people that are reading this message of mine and getting pissed off, I could fucking care less. Because if that is the case, you are just weak and ignorant. My message is not for you, it is to reach the Ryders out there. At the same time, I will say I mean no disrespect to the family of the officer that was killed- it was a tragedy what occurred. However, it was an accident. He did not mean for it to happen either. People want to look at his tattoos or his beliefs and automatically think he is guilty. The system is innocent until proven guilty, and you are not supposed to take factors such as appearance into acccount- shouldn’t even let it cloud your judgment- it is all supposed to be based on evidence… if you look at the evidence… it will show he did not do that which he is charged with. He has constantly maintained that, and is the truth.
FeatherWood
on July 15th, 2008 at 12:21 am
I’m really pissed off that this guy has the sacred Valknut on his cheek. I’m very swedish and very close to my heritage/roots, and i dont want people to see my tattoo and call me a skin head. I love all peoples of all sizes, colors, beliefs and creeds- and everything in between. But people like this? Need to be locked away in a tiny dark hole and forgotten. And the valknut represents the heart of a soldier who has fallen in battle- the three triangles represent Asgard(equivilant to heaven) Midgard(Earth) and Hel(…Hell)
showing that mans destiney is intertwined between them and only through his deeds in battle will his fate be dicided. I got my tattoo for my good friend who died in combat in the middle east.
on July 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
thank you Feather Wood, you have said it all, im white and im proud, and there aint nothing wrong with putting it all over your body, and no one should look at him and think oh he’s the face of hate, what the hell is that, so if he kept it all in and didnt tatoo it all over then it would be ok, NOOOO, he’s proud of who he is and he were’s it well.
on July 20th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
theres a serious story behind this guy, his whole family has been involved with the skin heads for years. and whoever said he was in a gang was completely wrong, because he actually said in an interview on msnbc, that he thought white-power gangs were composed of week people. the skin heads are actually a working class, group, not gang of people that originated in the UK in the 60’s. im not avdocating them, just stating the facts so people can get their info right. i dont really have any form of opinion on his tattoos, i mean its all he’s really known his whole life. he isnt in jail for a hate crime, he’s in jail for a killing a cop so, shouldnt people be focusing on that .. ?
on July 23rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm
I’m sure not proud to be of the same race as that guy. But as to his finding a job with the facial tattooing… not a problem for him, as he appears to have chosen a criminal lifestyle. Does make him pretty easy to identify, though.
on July 24th, 2008 at 12:41 am
Here is a real man! Not afraid to show the world what he believes! We need more soldiers like this on the move! Oi! to all the Peckerwoods and FeatherWoods! Stand up and stand tall and be proud of the color of your skin! I am!
on July 27th, 2008 at 3:59 am
I’m part black first of all, among many other things. And first off responding to a comment on “Black History Month”. If you would recall when you were in school. What “people”, race wise, were the main focus of every history book? White history is everyday of every year, even during “Black History Month”. Now for working people who are out of school and college or whatever i can see how one may of lost sight of the teaching of history during school (to some its not a very popular subject). But that’s that, now to the comments on his tats, WHO CARES?? i’m not affended in anyway, and from the report i saw on msnbc he’s not down to destroy any race of any kind. he’s all about preserving his. He’s not in a “white power” gang. He’s just representing what he believes and that is what this country was built apon assied from God. So thust i don’t feel threatened. I wish people of all colors would realize that we all came from the same place which we are to return, and that’s fact. hundreds of thousands of millions of years ago there was no race, one language, one group of people. but thats beside the point, this guy isn’t bad, he just has his beliefs which we all should respect. the only tiime anyone should be threatend by a person is if they deliberatly come after you or your family. its true he may inspire a very very very small few of the younger generation but honestly racist of all colors are going to have to deal with it in the future because as you can see day by day the world is evolving more and more racially. Anyways people should at least respect this guy for his belifes weather we agree or not. what if someone were to down you and disrespect you for your beliefs? especially if its all you’ve ever know or been exsposed to. I’m very proud of my heritage which is multi cultural. everybit..i don’t personally belive there needs to be certain months set asside for certain ethnic groups. its a stupid idea always to leave someone left out. minority races just need to face the fact that not much has been accomplished in this country (as of yet) by their race. so obviously there is going to be less to state, i’m sure there were some amazing black, hispanic, native american, and asian people that will never be mentioned in American history for their accomplihments. But that is also very true in the white races as well, i mean how often do you hear about the white people that marched (from the north and south) for the liberation the blacks? not ever. or the non hippies who stood up agains the almost exile of asians during ww2? never. how many people here know that the NAACP was founded by only one black man (who was french btw) while the others where white? I’m not trying to down blacks or anyother racial minority, but we have to realize we weren’t alone. So just let people live their lifes, don’t judge them, people deserve that of each other.
GodBless
James.
ps. for members of the “racial power, perservers, etc.” groups that read this. I respect you for standing up for what you believe in, thats very rare in this world today. All i can ask of you is to please make this world a better place for our futrue generations, deep down we all know how that is. if no one person was ment to have complete rule, what makes you think one race is? if we have so many races in this world, how do you think they came about? magic? or blessing? embrase each other, love each other, and respect each other for how we are. no matter what we believe. life is short, do you really want to spend it in hate?
on July 31st, 2008 at 9:27 am
Curtis is a GREAT person, for us who know him he is very sweet. He tells you like it is, if you don’t like it, then don’t listen. He has more courage than anyone I know, putting his beliefs all over himself so people know what he is about, most people these days are scared to do anything like that, for that I give him so much respect. People come to these blogs to disrespect someone they do NOT know except for what they see on the outside, stop judging him until you find out who he is on the inside too. Most of you probably have the same views as him but you can’t do what he does or say what he says. STOP JUDGING, he is an amazing person!
on August 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
re:Curtis Allgier, I felt that to understand this man I had to take a step back to see him for his true worth.
This is a young man who very obviously hides behind symbols of fear, images that he feels threaten others & protect him. I wonder & suspect absent father or poor parenthood . I see guys like this time after time & what is strikingly common is the high level of intelligence displayed time after time. The worst offenders are usually the smartest. How is that?
Curtis Allgier is typical of the waste of our society. Wasted life, wasting others. In another life, what might this man have been? A tragic loss both of a correctional officer & of a bright young man.
on August 21st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
I’m very offended & ashamed of him. There’s a society of people out there that hates him also.
on August 30th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
unfortunantly the “white race’ is becoming a minority, and an extremly disliked society. That is why these groups feel the need to express there beliefs so strongly. There are plenty of “minority groups” that go on air daily and protest mistreatment and no one says anything. i.e. Rev. Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, ect. But let a caucasian stand up for his beliefs and he his deemed crazy. i think we should call racism on every level, not just when “whites” do it. Dont get me wrong, what this guy is expressing is wrong, but investigate black advocate sights… it is just this sick, but no one says anything to them. end racism peiod.
on September 23rd, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I feel really sorry for all of you that are just “expressing their white pride” what did you ever do that you shoud be proud of? small pox to the indians,black slaves is this what you are so proud of? You make me sick! We are all part of the same flock. Does a white sheep care if one of the flocks is brown,no. It strucks funny that most animals have more intelligence than you
on October 10th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
As a Detention Officer, it sickens me to hear stories such as this… but…
Contrary to popular belief, and the opinion stated in this article: the band HATEBREED is in NO way a band that promotes supremacy of any race.
Their lyrics promote changing what is in yourself that you dislike.
This guy is just an idiot who didn’t know what he was talking about.
Read any of HATEBREED’s lyrics and you will quickly understand where they are coming from.
on October 29th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Curtis is secluded from all other white power groups. He is a REAL white supremacist while others just pretend to be to fit in. In his interview, he said out straight that he did not want to be associated with any of those other white groups. They are nothing. They are maggots trying to fit in and find their way. He did this for His beliefs and his only.
on November 6th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
an aesthetic observation…
how about some other colors in the tattoos? he’s obviously not up on developments in skin pigmentation since the days of ‘navy tattoos’.
some vibrant colors would have been nice, especially on the swastikas and ‘SS’ symbols.
oh well, these guys usually aren’t so bright…
on November 13th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
WTF is a peckerwood or a featherwood? As far as ” White America” goes, it’s over unless you got tons of cash to live like Hill and Bill in a super white neighborhood. This tattooed guy is the SPLC and ADL’s wet dream. Why? Because looking as if one should get SSI keeps normal white people away. The more trashy and movie-hillbilly the better as far as you guys are concerned, is that about right? When he thinks you are done with him, you make him one final offer: Plastic surgery , freedom and a new identity in exchange for info on others.
The cartoon skinhead /Hollywood Nazi stuff keeps people from organizing not even because they are afraid for their jobs, (ya mean like work?) or public ostracism , but more importantly they don’t want to end up going to prison, so worried are they about coming under scrutiny for the illegal stuff they do, If they aren’t worried about that, they’re already on your payroll or they should get SSI.
on November 23rd, 2008 at 3:37 am
Man, the bigger picture here, no matter how you slice it, is that this was somebody’s son.. somebody’s beautiful baby boy who got so fucked up in the head that he now has to spend his life in a human zoo exhibit. He hates me… and would probably kill me if he had the opportunity, but I look at him and I see this beautiful child of God whose life has been ruined. White pride is ok by me, because I think that everyone should have pride in themselves, but what I don’t understand is how White pride translates into hatred of everyone else. But I’m not white. I agree this poor soul has the right to believe whatever he wants to, but I swear, when I look at him i just want to go yell at his parents.. Seriously.. look into his eyes.. I want to know who messed up his head so much that he can’t even be a symbol of pride to his race? Whatever God intended this man to be…. has been lost to the hate filled rantings of people in his life…Why shouldn’t he be proud to be White? I have no porblem with White people.. or anyone else.. I just don’t understand why being White means that he has to do things that end with him living his life in a cage? Seems like a serious waste doesn’t it?
on November 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 pm
I personally think he is a sexy beast! I would so date him! I respect him for haivng the courage to tattoo his body with what he belives in and it dosen’t mean you hate another race it means you love yours! I have white supremists friends and i have black friends and you know what we all work together and party together, some people are just so closed minded, I don’t think it is nothing to be ashamed of or have to hide, you shouldn’t hate on him for being tattooed with what he belives in and more about the crime he commited! Also I liv in South Carolina and I know if an inmate is transferred to a hospital or anywhere we send more than one correctional officer, someone should check into that!!!!
on December 2nd, 2008 at 5:11 am
What in the hell? In the DOC in North Carolina they send two officers and they are both armed… how in the hell did this asshole get the chance to kill a corrections officer? I just don’t understand why the Utah DOC did that knowing he most likely had a violent past and should have been a little more careful. I am not knocking the DOC because my husband is a correctional officer here in North Carolina and i am proud of him and his job… correctional officers are the forgotten until something happens then all of the sudden people give a shit, they make it possible for you to sleep safely at night. Police do their job and get praised, OK yes they arrest they individual, but DOC employees keep it so you can keep that safe feeling you get when a dangerous person is apprehended!!! This goes to all of you that think correctional officers can be replaced and are nothing… you have know idea how hard it is to be one or to be married to one!!! Just like military and police you have no idea if they will come home at night, then what are we to tell our children? Especially with people not giving a damn about them until a tragic event happens!!! As far as anyone who praises guys who beat up or kill those in the DOC you all need to rot in hell, if you can’t handle your punishment don’t do whatever it is that got you locked up in the first place!!!
on December 4th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
totally righteous tattoos man! im realy into body art i might get that done in la and that la ink place and tell my story causes its really important! the message is the art! not really hateful just like the look you know thats extreme brother! crazyyyyy!!1
on December 5th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I don’t know the story of Curtis and his path to prison. What I do know, is that each of us are a product of our own choices. Someone let him down in the very early stages of his life. Someone failed to help get a start in life. Then he started making mistakes, and his choices became narrower and more violent. What might he have been able to do in this world. He has the strength to accomplish great deeds.
Now, he’s just another muderer, plain and simple. What about the family of the person he killed? What about his victim. This has nothing to do with racism. Maybe Curtis is a white supremacist, who gives a flying f*ck. He took a life, for no good reason.
on December 6th, 2008 at 7:39 am
i honestly think the work of art on this man is very interesting…you have the right to express your self in a way that no1 is hurt…waht he did was wrong…but the art on his body is the same as a little tounge ring…or a nose percing….
on December 10th, 2008 at 5:00 am
there are traditional skinheads…called sharps..skin heads against racial prejiduce…the werent racist to begin with…they were a working class establishment to take pride in work and orpession from the upper class…the racist ones were origonally called boneheads…but over the years people simply dubbed them skinheads and gave real anti-racist skins a bad name…most people were never taught that and see or asume that all skins are racist….hating each other wont solve anything….through unity we can learn about each other and find a better way to resolve our differences
on December 13th, 2008 at 12:08 am
I grew up with Curtis and he was a great guy…..never did I expect something like this out of him. He does have a great heart and I’m sorry to hear about the corrections officer. What I knew of Curtis was nothing but a great guy and a fun loving person. Apparently he went down the wrong path though. I’m sorry to hear about this tragic situation.
on January 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Gotta agree with John
Unfortunatley thats how it is in the prison system and the rest of you don’t seem to be aware of that. Im sure the man had hate in him before he went in too but weither your racist or not in prison, chances are the guy staring at you from across the mess hall is though.
on January 9th, 2009 at 8:01 am
The officer thing is inexplicably unfortunate though..
on January 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Half you people have no idea how the real world works lol
Whites are not the majority of racists. Blacks,mexicans,etc are far more racist than we are.And they will let you know that EVERYDAY.I grew up in a majority black nieghborhood as a kid and no matter how hard I tried they let me know all the time that i was not one of them. So who has the hate??
Do your reasearch before you give your stupid opinions. I dont agree with Curtis’s crimes and he should be punished.But I think the tats and expression are awsome. I wish we could all be so forward and quit putting on fake personas when we walk out the door every morning.
on January 16th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
And you wanna bash a racist…..Think Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton,Dave Chappelle,Chris Rock and the list goes on.
What United States are you people living in?? I know when I wake up everyday I do hear all kinds of racial remarks but they are not coming from WHITE PEOPLE.
on January 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
tellsithowitis, racists of any color are just as stupid as you are, and nobody said otherwise.
on January 21st, 2009 at 9:24 am
i cant believe people are arguing over this shit, there are bad people in every race, there are also racist people in every race, why cant everyone just fuckin chill! theres always gonna be people from different ethnic backgrounds in every town/village/city. its never gonna change, just get the fuck over it!! be proud of your race, theres nothing wrong in that…just dont cross the thin line & turn it into hate!!
on January 24th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
why are you guys persecuting a man for his beiliefs
on January 25th, 2009 at 8:50 am
im not standing up for him or saying what he did was alright in any way, but leave him alone. its his choice to voice his veiws on life and his beliefs. do you give a preacher the same treatmeant, do you frown upon them too? didnt think so.
on January 25th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
i love the people that come on here lipping this guy when your all fucking in college paid for by your mommy and daddy, i seen this man interviewed on lockup, awsome show i might add, and he was not a hostile person, most people that kill in prison are not bad people, if you ask me, the whole god thing, isn’t it a sin to think your better then other people? if given a chance alot of prisoners could do alot of things for this earth, mumia abu jamal i think is a prime example, and im not trying to say what this guy did is right, but as a wrongfully convicted man turned multiple murderer in jail said, they don’t tell you what leads up to it, they piss in your drinks, they talk to you like your scum, those people deserve to be maimed and disfigured because all they do is inflict physcological torture on people, a person is a person, and calling him a punk is funny seeing as he’s in jail? first learn what that means before calling someone a punk you computer nerds, cause i can almost gurantee you wouldn’t say it to him
on February 9th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
It sounds silly to be proud of something you absolutely have no control over, such as your race (well, unless you’re Michael Jackson). Whether you’re white, black, brown, yellow, red, or anything else, it isn’t some kind of achievement, is it? Your daddy banged your mama in back of a car and you appeared looking the way they looked. How can anyone be seriously proud of something they had nothing to do with?
on February 15th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Yes Melissa, being proud of your race is real silly. February is one long silly-fest, with black racists strutting around taking pride in what other brown skinned people did with their lives. It just makes me laugh, these racists are so silly.
on February 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Can we not have White Pride without fear?? Im not saying white Power, but pride of our ancestry and heritage… kinda like black people do without fear… They do it and it’s a holiday. We do it and it’s racist. Im afraid to say I don’t like Obama if Black people were around… but they are the first to say they hate any white president… Seems to me the tables have turned and Black people have no argument left about the issue of racism. Besides, there are just as many Black Power movements as there are White Power movements these days! White Pride! PEACE
on March 23rd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I am not racist in the least… Curtis said once he thinks racist people are weak and conceited. he is just proud to be what he is… and i agree with that, HOWEVER if you are not racist why plaster swazticas all over your body if your not racist…
on April 11th, 2009 at 2:40 am
Um, yeah. I’m white. I’m like, uber-super white. And guess what? I DO celebrate my race! On St. Patrick’s day, at Scottish festivals and with Ren Faires. There’s all kinds of pride in our European ancestry and what we were all about. My grandfather was Norwegian, so dad even took a trip to Norway and bought a beautiful viking helmet. However, he doesn’t feel the need to wear it every freakin’ day.
Wouldn’t that be a little bit stupid?
Personally, yeah, I think it would be.
And then he’d wear that helmet hat and be angry that nobody will hire him because he’s “white and proud”…
BTW, I worked for a company for 15 years and we hired a LOT of people- and there was never anybody, white, black, hispanic, hmong or punjabi who got hired with any sort of racially symbolic tattoos on their faces.
Piercings…yes. But that’s it. I mean, one has to think of the public and one’s coworkers.
So that Malcom X thing seems a little far-fetched to me.
I’m sure such a person could find work somewhere but probably not in any type of service industry.
on April 13th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Thank you for distinguishing between racist and non-racist pagans when describing what the valknut represents. It seems whenever I run into a blanket statement about pagans it always refers to the few bad apples. While the symbol means little to me personally, I do know several who follow that path and it can be a tough road to walk with so many negative meanings interpreted from their ideologies.
on April 26th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Whats the property of tolone on the forehead mean?
Is he someones prison bitch?
on May 2nd, 2009 at 6:23 am
Just another example of bad parenting. I bet the poor slob never finished Middle School and lived in a trailer park!
on May 8th, 2009 at 11:03 am
This man is a political prisoner!! He is being tried for crimes he did not committ! And is being held due to his beliefs, which is the way of the lord!!
on May 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
In France we say: “Ta liberté s’arrête là où commence celle des autres” (Your liberty ends where other’s liberty begins).
So, even if he has his beliefs liberty, he must be convict because his beliefs hurts other…
on May 24th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
he is not a bad person he just stans up for what he is
if thats the way he lives let him let him live
on May 28th, 2009 at 9:47 am
The people that said he tattooed himself like this and joined racist groups to be safe in prison are wrong. His whole family are, or were, white supremiscists. He says ‘My older cousins and their friends were my main influence’. Some people just hate, he’s one of them. But anybody above me ^^^ hating on him are just as bad arent they? Thats the bitch of democracy, you have free speech!