Comments on: No Exit: ‘Exodus’ Group Founder Still in California http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Thu, 23 May 2013 22:03:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Josef http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/comment-page-1/#comment-14784 Josef Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:38:59 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/#comment-14784 Lets make a deal. He can have South Carolina to make a theocracy. The Christian Right leaves the rest of the country alone. And we have a contest for the next state so we don't need to change the flag. Lets make a deal.

He can have South Carolina to make a theocracy.
The Christian Right leaves the rest of the country alone.

And we have a contest for the next state so we don’t need to change the flag.

]]> By: Thomas Rowley http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/comment-page-1/#comment-12867 Thomas Rowley Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:53:28 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/#comment-12867 As noted in the Fall 2004 Intelligence Report, early on Burnell considered joining the New Hampshire Free State Project people but found the FSP group, like so many other groups and people in this country, was not to his liking. But that didn't mean he didn't like the idea. I'd say that he's merely following the course here already laid down by Free State Project founder, Jason P. Sorens. You see, like CE, FSP had immediate difficulty meeting its recruitment goals, so they lowered the target - a lot. From 20,000 to 1,000. And they haven't met that goal either unless around 750 get busy and move to NH by the end of this year. Like CE, a FSP splinter group has formed called Free State Wyoming. Like Burnell, NH FSP founder, Jason P. Sorens, has yet to re-locate to New Hampshire as he has asked so many thousands of others to do. And, similar in a way to Burnell, Sorens has said that he hasn't found a job with the benefits that would make the move possible for him yet. Like Burnell, he's a mass migration movement leader who continues to phone it in to his followers from out-of-state. Unispirational leadership seems to be a hallmark of today's secession movement. Maybe Keith can help me with some math. Since the target of 10's of thousands of commited CE followers moving to South Carolina has fallen way short, apparently by 10's of thousands, just how many thousands of years is that 2016 secession date now being pushed back? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_state_project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Sorens As noted in the Fall 2004 Intelligence Report, early on Burnell considered joining the New Hampshire Free State Project people but found the FSP group, like so many other groups and people in this country, was not to his liking. But that didn’t mean he didn’t like the idea.

I’d say that he’s merely following the course here already laid down by Free State Project founder, Jason P. Sorens. You see, like CE, FSP had immediate difficulty meeting its recruitment goals, so they lowered the target – a lot. From 20,000 to 1,000. And they haven’t met that goal either unless around 750 get busy and move to NH by the end of this year.

Like CE, a FSP splinter group has formed called Free State Wyoming.

Like Burnell, NH FSP founder, Jason P. Sorens, has yet to re-locate to New Hampshire as he has asked so many thousands of others to do. And, similar in a way to Burnell, Sorens has said that he hasn’t found a job with the benefits that would make the move possible for him yet. Like Burnell, he’s a mass migration movement leader who continues to phone it in to his followers from out-of-state.

Unispirational leadership seems to be a hallmark of today’s secession movement.

Maybe Keith can help me with some math. Since the target of 10’s of thousands of commited CE followers moving to South Carolina has fallen way short, apparently by 10’s of thousands, just how many thousands of years is that 2016 secession date now being pushed back?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_state_project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Sorens

]]> By: Keith Humphrey http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/comment-page-1/#comment-12780 Keith Humphrey Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:48:33 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/#comment-12780 Christian Exodus is moving forward, though at a slower pace than originally anticipated. The focus has not shifted to Idaho. South Carolina remains the primary target, but the scope has expanded to encompass others in the Northwest who are committed to remaining near their extended families. There are many thousands of Christian activists seeking the freedom to govern themselves according to Biblical principles, and many of them have joined the Ron Paul Revolution. It is not about forcing others to submit to Biblical morality, but rather opposing the immorality that the central government forces upon us. Why is it so abhorrent to you to allow Christian families to raise their children in the way they think best? It is you who are hateful and forceful in your imposition upon others. Christian Exodus is moving forward, though at a slower pace than originally anticipated. The focus has not shifted to Idaho. South Carolina remains the primary target, but the scope has expanded to encompass others in the Northwest who are committed to remaining near their extended families. There are many thousands of Christian activists seeking the freedom to govern themselves according to Biblical principles, and many of them have joined the Ron Paul Revolution. It is not about forcing others to submit to Biblical morality, but rather opposing the immorality that the central government forces upon us. Why is it so abhorrent to you to allow Christian families to raise their children in the way they think best? It is you who are hateful and forceful in your imposition upon others.

]]> By: Iludium Phosdex http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/comment-page-1/#comment-12771 Iludium Phosdex Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:36:42 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/07/no-exit-%e2%80%98exodus%e2%80%99-group-founder-still-in-california/#comment-12771 Let's not forget where the racist/white-supremacist element wants to have white South Africans "evacuated" therefrom and resettled as "refugees" in the United States based on "fear of persecution." The which, if anything, are likely to be suspicious and lacking in credible substantiation. Let’s not forget where the racist/white-supremacist element wants to have white South Africans “evacuated” therefrom and resettled as “refugees” in the United States based on “fear of persecution.”

The which, if anything, are likely to be suspicious and lacking in credible substantiation.

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