And you go on to say that the White Supremacists are a non- violent group of people?
Sorry pal, I’m not buying that crap.

The NSM is already dead or is it???
Even if they have not yet died out like a form of endangered subspecies. Surely we all know its a matter of time before they’re a defunct org. Just like every pathetic groups they’ve managed to create over the years starting from the American Nazi Party and a assassinated Rockwell.

What a cesspool of a movement.

Secondly–you speak of “intellectual infants” which is “typical” of you when you debate many who opposes what you stand for. Fat-boy you say this phrases constantly to pretty much everyone and I see this type of vitriol being spewed by your cheeky fat mouth on several occasions. But again, neither are you capable of having a serious debate with anyone on the Feather Bastard`s blog whenever a story about you should ever come out. Instead you run and hide from the very people who wish to debate you. And if you want to debate someone of higher intelligence, I can call up Josh at ARA and have Jewish History Mike to take on your debates on the radioshow or I can call up the Stephen Lemons and have him debate you on race issues etc and report it on the blog.

Thirdly–i have nothing to prove. Unlike you who could not even hold a District Seat in East Valley(for a good reason, see your coment above as one example of many), chances of you ever acquiring that seat in the District again is slim to none or never.

Fourth–you are the one who passes out those “free” fliers as if your desperate for attention which you are because of your lack of numbers in membership. New Times are free at your own free will whether you pick one up or not but passing our “free” literature is something that tells me you’re a f***ing loser who needs the attention. It doesn’t matter if I was there or not.
But what really matters is the NSM is faltering everytime. And by the way the Ohio State Hooligans are looking to kick your ass or any NSM members. Gays are now joining up with your movement.

And lastly– [...] you say its more like “different planets” we come from? You bet–fatty because your not from this planet, based on your lack of knowing and how low you are.
Its only a matter of time before you`ll do something really stupid and end up in jail just like the rest of your ilk.

The “typical vitriol” refers to your mis-guided fervor and caustic statements which mirrors that of loudmouth leftist mouthpieces. Though the jew behaves so as well, does not correlate to me calling you a jew. ( look in the mirror and attach moron sticker on your head at this point. If it is spelled norom, do not be alarmed!)

A kosher rear licking communist does not have to be himself a jew, you fool. Though seeing a jew lick its own rear probably arouses more not-so-latent homosexual tendencies which you display in your childish peckings here. (lock yourself far away from all pubescent males at this point. NAMBLA may already have your membership application.)

Once again, I am vindicated in my candid assessment of you. You simply resort to the same sort of low brow name-calling and attacks on Scottish culture we can expect from your ilk. Yet, you will most likely continue to evade the fact that I called you out on your embellishment of facts regarding my attendance at the Mandatory Precinct Committeeman meeting. Most likely, you were not even there and are just regurgitating some vomit you read from the New Times or something. There is a reason those trashy things are handed out for free to Meth heads and bums at all night convenience stores you know. But you probably can not figure all of out this even with my patient help so don’t even bother.

Thank you for making National Socialists looking far better than the pathetic alternative once again.

You commie nazis are really a joke.

“Wow!?”….damn right, you’re misled all along. This only shows what a FAT idiot you are, trampin around in that plaid dress and tanned shirts. Are the nazis becoming gay today or what???

I mean how many members do you have left in NSM of AZ? 3 or 5???
That’s quite pathetic to call yourselves anything these days considering another fact that your tiny thimble of a group, barely exists, let alone, even hardly noticed.

Wow! I am JT Ready and I got “kicked out”? I was there the whole time. I should know if anybody. (obviously) Many people thanked me.

I suppose we were at different meetings. More like from different planets. Step back into reality.

Keep up the good work.

But this never occurs. The dregs ARE the movement. Movement celebrities make their living off of the movement rank-in-file. What do you think they prefer more of? Independent thinkers or groups of skins or random racist guys recruited from gun shows? What they want is people who will suck down whatever BS they are putting out at any given moment, and keep paying those dues. What they don’t need is someone who actually believes in an ideology and asks inconvenient questions about short and long term goals. More than this, they don’t like people questioning the morality of the movement and its leaders.

Eventually any truly independent thinking person takes time to reevaluate what they believed to be true. In my case I became physically separated from the movement, and in a new environment I started to question those things which I took for granted when I was a racialist. I simply noticed that what they claimed didn’t add up. Their claims fly in the face of reality, and the behavior of most racialists, to differing degrees, tends to contradict their stated values. That did it for me.

The experience was indeed educational. Today I can not only refute WN beliefs from an anti perspective, but also from the racialists’ own stated values as well; insofar as they acknowledge this, which most will not. In the end I learned that what Michael Shermer says is true: Smart people can be very vulnerable to falling for BS beliefs, simply because they are smart. They can be very good at rationalizing those ideas they came to believe for not-so-smart reasons.

Why do you think the skinhead scene is dying out? Since you were a former member and had friends who were also has beens. Could you eleborate on this, so those who don’t understand will understand.

I always assumed that the leaders of this skinhead movements prey on those who are loners, depressed, angry, victims of bullies at school et al. Its a manipulative tactic used in their recruitments. For some, they later find out the whole scene is B.S. and eventually leave on their own accord. Maybe the natavist movement is growing but the skinhead scene is not. Some former skins are known to join the natavist movements, to be a part of something much bigger. The figures should state that the neo-nazi skinhead numbers are down by some percent whereas the natavists continues to garner more membership.

Darleen Click`s revised assertions tell me that she`s ill-informed. SPLC if I recall, has already did an intelligence report on the genocides of blacks by Mexican gangsters in L.A. in 2006. This was already discussed 2 years ago. Its nothing new.

My best friend is a former skinhead who left the “movement” about a year ago and Im curious since alot of the people I know are former skinheads or former racist. I know QUITE a few people who have gotten out and know for a fact the “movement” is dying down. Hell the Vinlanders as a whole organization have gotten out. Where are you getting these up 40% numbers.

Sounds like fear mongering to me.

Huh?
Believe me, these idiots are not “respected” members of society. Nothing they do represents the meaning of “respect”. Many conservatives don’t want anything to do with them. Their very presence is an act of instigation that bleeds violence. When JT Ready was passing out hate fliers at the local Republican forum last month, it was not tolerated and eventually he was booted out. In fact, the Phoenix Boot Boys are virtually unheard of. How many members do they have left? 2? 5 maybe. I live in Maricopa County and pretty much no one I spoke to, regarding Phoenix Boot Boys doesn’t ring any bells. And I’ve been here 5 years now. Not even the Feathered Bastard ever mentioned them other than the local NSM and JT Ready, Scott/Sean Hume and Russell Pearce R-Mesa among others. Even if Phoenix Boot Boys does exist, then they’re not legit, pure and simply put it, these guys don’t need any attention or recognition. Lastly, there is no one on here who “glorifys” skinheads other than yourself, drunks or otherwise…….
They make me sick.

What you also fail to mention is the alarming events in the Southern California area where HIspanic gangs with ties to the Mexican Mafia (one of the most powerful gangs operating in our state prison system and controller of much of the drug trade over the border) are targeting for execution African-Americans in parts of Los Angeles. They are, in essense, engaged in “ethnic cleansing” of neighborhoods they want to control.

Your “hate group” listings would appear driven not by any other consideration but a far-Left political agenda.

Pity.

HATECRIMES ALERT!
A White man is senteced to 21 years for a racially motivated murder that occured in 2006.

http://www.heraldnet.com/artic...../118705421

Personally, I’m disapointed with that amount of time he’s offered. He should received more than 30 years in the pen for commiting acts of murder based on HATE.

You have lost ALL credibility by siding with the RACIST National Council of Laraza against the United States of America and its LEGAL citizens! You are now a puppet and a dupe for the RACIST illegal alien invaders.

Immigrants don’t need amnesty, but illegal alien invaders do.

Don’t you know how black people (and all other people) are regarded by these RACIST criminal invaders? You have discredited and brought shame upon yourselves and your organization. When justice prevails don’t be suprised when your on the losing end………..

The reason is class-based. People don’t like to think of America as a class society, but it certainly is. And nothing helps maintain the status quo than keeping the working people divided on various lines. The problem is that the New Left solution to most of this, was identity politics. Identity politics only perpetuate the problem and keep people of the same class who should be united at each other’s throats. Not to mention that conservative and neo-Nazi punditry feeds off of the excesses of identity politics movements. People need to start uniting based on class, not race or gender or religion- because class is the deciding factor in history and the present. But I digress…

What I am trying to say is that if you look at this trend in the political discourse(ironically WN-style thinking is becoming more mainstream as the movement itself is steadily crumbling) from a class perspective, it shines a lot of light on why it is happening. In order to fulfill the needs of the American ruling class at this time, it is necessary that foreigners be demonized and degraded. It is necessary to have people focusing blame on undocumented Mexican workers.

Remember, the ruling ideas of any given time are ever the ideas of the ruling class.

The worst of them shut down left-wing bloggers, with real bullying, harassment and threats. The problem then is, they predominate! and Hate keeps spreading and spreading, like a gate being left open.

I have been fighting an uphill battle to address this on my blog:
http://www.pasadenanewprogressive.blogspot.com

I HOPE this recent article by Philip Jenkins http://www.latimes.com/news/op.....3586.story

is wrong, but everything is pointing that way.

But seriously, I think the problem with the SPLC is that when you are trying to understand the WN movement or dangers posed by it, you have to look at it from different perspectives.

You have to break it down into catagories:

1. WNism or Neo-Nazism as an ideology deals with the organized movement. If we speak about the organizations, they are in decline, at least in America.

2. Crossover between WN ideas and “mainstream” conservatism. This could constitute one of those “dangers” posed by the movement, which has to be looked at separately. However, it is important to realize that much of what WN’s believe comes from mainstream conservative sources, not the other way around. The only difference is that mainstream conservative pundits do not adhere to an overall ideology of racialism; this is the only difference between the two, and practically it is hardly relevant. This is why WN rants against conservatives should only be taken with a shaker full of salt- these people are barely different than conservatives ideologically, and what difference exist makes no difference in the political arena. For examples consider Duke and Black’s support for Bush, twice.

3. Dangers from the movement in the form of criminal activity. This would include skinhead violence for example; it seemed to me that skinhead culture is getting further and further away from the organized movement and ideology, and becoming more of a white gang mentality. The interaction between local skins and organizations exists, but it is often tenuous and there is a lot of mistrust. Regardless of what any WN org will claim however, skins in some form are ALWAYS involved one way or another in the activities of WN orgs from time to time. This is because in every city there is a “scene”. Since this “scene” consists of a very small amount of people, it is inevitable that skins and ordinary “racialists” cross paths.

Anyway, I wish I could devote more time to this but what I am basically trying to say is that you can’t just lump all this together as hate and tell people to be afraid of it. If you look at it from a certain angle, organized WN is failing on an epic scale. The question is what “danger” is one specifically worried about: Random violence? Domestic terrorism? The dissemination of certain ideas into mainstream politics? Changing the political discourse? These issues need to be looked at separately.

You guys saw in another thread how there is actually a National Alliance member on here, who seems to think the Alliance is “growing”. It is most likely that this fellow was impressed by the website, and may never have actually participated in any kind of meeting. It’s possible he is the only guy in his locale who is a member. Why do you think such organizations still let people join online or via mail, when it is obvious that anyone of any race could easily do the same just for fun?

The NA is a smoking crater.
NV is embarrassed beyond words thanks to Kevin Alfred Strom
White Revolution is a memory
NSM has been shoved back into the sewer from whence it came.
A few splinter groups off NV remain, but are more or less ineffective.
David Duke is starting to face hostility in Russia(I guess that’s what happens when you preach about the greatness of Russian culture while not speaking a single word of Russian after about 5 years in the country.)

Stop giving these morons credit and they will go away.

Good news.
According to the associated press. The local white supremacists known to us as “Buffalo” Rick Galeener, a member the anti-immigration group in AZ called the “United For A Soveriegn America” founded by ex-KIA car dealer known as Rusty Childress, his website can be found here:
http://www.immigrationbuzz.com
The Old Buffalo Buffoon was arrested recently for indecent exposure. Not only that but he also pissed in a bottle(many said his intent was to drink it, a JACKASS stint). He exposed his decrepit self at a family(a mother and child). According to police, this geriatric bastard got off as a close call soley because the child was 2. If that child was older than 6, then its considered to be a felony in that state with a capital “F”. Then he would have to be registered as a sex offender. Some witnesses explained that he’s been doing this before(exposing himself). In my opinion, I think he oughta go into Sheriff Joe`s Tent City or his gulags famous for several inmate deaths under his watch and wear one those “pink underwear” that they’re all wearing now at the Tent City.
Got one of those criminals off the streets, good job to the law enforcement.