Actually, in 2006, as a part of their homeownership program, the NCLR served 29,000 clients, almost 20% were white, and around 12% were black.

As a white person, I do not need a group dedicated to my race. My race and culture is reflected in every single aspect of American society–business, the media, politics, etc. The purpose of most race-based groups for minorities is to achieve equality. The only purpose for a group dedicated to the white race would be maintaining dominance.

“When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more or less”
– Humpty Dumpty

I am not an apologist for those nuts who preach the return of Aztlan but I am not so ignorant as to lump those nuts in with every Hispanic Group. If I were to subscribe to what seems to be your way of thinking I would label every White guy I come across as terrorists because Timothy McVeigh was White…but that would be a profoundly stupid generalization to make.

If you would like to address the arguments I have put forth by all means let’s see them. If you make valid points I will be happy to acknowledge them. However, of you insist on hiding behind big words that do not even remotely address the arguments I will simply assume that you are unable to address them and seek to find some one who is able.

First, let’s, for argument’s sake, say La Raza should be translated literally. Given that there is no such thing as the Hispanic Race that term would be non-sensical in the context, as many seem to want to take it, of a Racial group trying to push its racist agenda on the U.S. What race are you referring to? Perhaps the predominantly racially black Hispanics of the Caribbean? Maybe the Racial Mutts (of which I am one and Damn proud to be a Mutt) of Mexico? What about the heavily ‘Indian’ Hispanics of Central America or maybe many of the racially Asian Hispanics of the Andes? Which race are you so afraid of? That is a rhetorical question as I already know the answer, all of them not yours.

For those of you seem to cite the Spanish words of gente and pueblo as meaning the community or the people. This is only partially accurate as it fails to take into account the fact that the Spanish spoken in this Hemisphere is separated into many dialects each being influenced by many other languages which are incorporated into the base language of Spanish. To simply state ‘it means the Race’ is both inaccurate and intellectually lazy. That would be like equating real English, spoken in Britain, with the American dialect of English spoken in the U.S. They are not identical and to say so is lazy or incompetent. One can’t move from one region of the U.S. to another and hear the same English being spoken. Never-mind moving among nations.

I am particularly disappointed in the child of the Diplomat. Perhaps he should have left the Embassy and the American Schools which happened to be located in Latin America.

That is one filthy mouthed “child of a diplomat.” Must have been a Republican appointee. Am I right or am I right?

I resent that. I am as English-Spanish bilingual as a career U.S. diplomat’s child educated in Latin America. Me cago en la puta madre que te parió.

It is true that the literal translation of La Raza would be The Race, but in this particular context that is not necessarily means, as anyone aware of the nuances of language can understand. Raza in this context cannot be translated as — meaning physical traits such as color of skin — but refers to the history and culture of Hispanic America, that which resulted from the mixture of Spanish European and native people. October 12th which is celebrated as Columbus Day in this country, is commemorated as El Dia de La Raza in Mexico and other Latin American countries. It would be absurd to think of this as a “the day of the race” as “race” is interpreted in English. Raza in this case refers to the historical encounter of European an indigenous people after the arrival of Columbus and the Spanish in the Americas. That date, which was also celebrated as El Dia de la Raza in Spain, has been changed to El Dia de la Hispanidad (Hispanic Day). In more recent years, that historical date is also used by some to commemorate a day of resistance and appreciation of native culture. But “raza” in this context often refers not to race , but to being Hispanic of Latin-American heritage… regardless of race. This is important, since Hispanic or Latino is not really a term that describes one particular race (as in white, black or brown), but one that encompasses people of various colors and backgrounds united by the same language and a historical connection to Spain. This is also why the term Hispanic or the term La Raza do not apply to people from the largest country in Latin-America, Brazil.

Isn’t it funny how the Southern Poverty Law Center
never condemns people that support La Raza
as a HATE GROUP?

Members of the Latino race attacked a peaceful group
of protesters in Baldwin Park a few years ago and a person in the Latino group
tossed a full water bottle into a pro-American crowd
(of all Nationalities) and nearly killed an elderly American woman.
Forget that there were children among that crowd.

And why hasn’t the SPLC ever called these people
that initiated the violence a HATE GROUP?
They were an anti-American Hate group!

SPLC are hypocrites!

Go back to the original source of the term, read the
Cosmic Race by Vasconcelos for yourself, the book is both in Spanish and in English. Moreover you will find these comments by Vasconcelos himself; I wonder if the NCLR and those who state that scholars and experts, interpret La Raza to mean “the community” actually think they can pull the wool over everyones eyes:

In the Cosmic Race Vasconcelos own words, same in the book written in 1925, in Spanish, check it out: “In this way, in a very few generations, monstrosities will disappear….the lower types of the species will be absorped by the superior type. In this manner, for example, the Black would be redeemed, and step by step, by voluntary extinction, the uglier stocks will give way to the more handsome.” pg. 32, “…and in a few years of aesthetic eugenics, the Black may disappear, together with the types that a free instinct of beauty may go on signaling as fundamentally recessive and undeserving, for that reason, of perpetuation.” pg. 32 “North Americans have held very firmly to their resolution to maintain a pure stock, the reason being that they are faced with the Blacks, who are like the opposite pole, like the anthesis fo the elements to be mixed. In the Ibero American world, the problemdoes not present itself in such crude terms. We have very few blacks, and a largepart of them is already becoming a mulatto population.” pg. 26 The Cosmic Race Vasconcelos himself called La Raza a race, “They will be absorped in the avalanche of all the other races, and finally, deposing their pride (refering to whites) they will combine with the rest to make the new racial syntheisisthe fifth race of the future.” pag 24 His works
speak for themselves, check out the book, if you speak
both Spanish and English compare context:

My suggestion, go to the original source, groups tend
to utilize interpretations that support their own interpretation; read what Vasconcelos said himself and
come to your conclusion, not a conclusion based on secondary data, also not all people from Mexico, or
countries in Central and South America consider themselves ‘Hispanic” for some the term is offensive.

So you see Loren, we all are right. Raza does mean people, as in people from one particular race. The so brown race.

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From this link:
http://www.ushistory.org/people/minutemen.htm

Minutemen were a small hand-picked elite force which were required to be highly mobile and able to assemble quickly. Minutemen were selected from militia muster rolls by their commanding officers. Typically 25 years of age or younger, they were chosen for their enthusiasm, reliability, and physical strength. Usually about one quarter of the militia served as Minutemen, performing additional duties as such. The Minutemen were the first armed militia to arrive or await a battle.

Thus, although lacking central command, the Minutemen were still better organized and battle-tested than any other part-time military. They were a vital and necessary force, playing a crucial role in not only the Revolutionary War, but in earlier conflicts. Without these “ready in a minute” men, our history may have been written in a very different way.

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The modern term Minuteman, contrary to what SPLC would like everyone to believe, is akin to Patriot or one who wishes to defend their country against foreign invaders and stands ready to die in so doing. This is a loyal and dedicated group and if the SPLC were truly in support of America, they would not attack Minutemen and DEFAME them.

NCLR is not overt in its racism. You will not find overt racist remarks on their web site… but their AGENDA is race based in supporting only programs to help the “latino” race and their lobbying is to help ONLY the “latino” race in housing or in allowing more illegal immigration and fighting border security. They want to “normalize” all illegal aliens who are here and most of those happen to be “raza” or Hispanic.

If white people formed a group called “National Council of the Anglo” they would be denounced as a white supremacist group IN A HEARTBEAT. If they went so far as to promote housing and education for whites only how far do you think they would get before they were harrassed daily by groups like the SPLC and the ACLU? So why is it ok to have the same kind of group which are race based.

THIS is the crux of discrimination. What is good for LA RAZA and NAACP is good for the Anglos too.

I’d like to see a white or asian or black person apply for one of those “Raza Development Fund” housing loans and see what happens…. lmao That is what the FAIR HOUSING ACT is about.. but I will bet it’s AOK to discriminate against whitey in housing but not the other way around…