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	<title>Comments on: American Legion Immigration Report Replete with Falsehoods</title>
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		<title>By: rfn</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/07/16/american-legion-immigration-report-replete-with-falsehoods/comment-page-1/#comment-104190</link>
		<dc:creator>rfn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rachel-natelson/athena-crossing-the-potom_b_229851.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rachel-natelson/athena-crossing-the-potom_b_229851.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....29851.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/07/16/american-legion-immigration-report-replete-with-falsehoods/comment-page-1/#comment-87040</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the SPLC &quot;hatewatch&quot; symbol: a single, staring, angry eye.  Very 1984 Big-Brother, very Sauron.  Well done!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the SPLC &#8220;hatewatch&#8221; symbol: a single, staring, angry eye.  Very 1984 Big-Brother, very Sauron.  Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: COMMON SENCE</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/07/16/american-legion-immigration-report-replete-with-falsehoods/comment-page-1/#comment-34547</link>
		<dc:creator>COMMON SENCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When debating please refrain from quoting Wikipedia.  Wikipedia is the worst souce of information, it is rarley checked and anyone can post just about anything and it is taken as gospel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When debating please refrain from quoting Wikipedia.  Wikipedia is the worst souce of information, it is rarley checked and anyone can post just about anything and it is taken as gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: Kobus</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/07/16/american-legion-immigration-report-replete-with-falsehoods/comment-page-1/#comment-34215</link>
		<dc:creator>Kobus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the report definitely contains inaccuracies, I think that the SPLC is incorrectly calling it extremist. There are some fundamental underlying truths in some statements:

1) immigrants make up a disproportionate number of prisoners- which understandably makes working-class Americans nervous about increased immigration due to the huge cost of incarceration and law enforcement; 

2)from a health perspective- i agree that the leprosy claims are unfounded, but immigrants are more likely to have been exposed to TB in their home countries, which imposes a significant cost on the health care infrastructure due to the high cost of isolation techniques necessary for preventing airborne infections.

3)On a local level, the very high costs of illegal immigration are beyond dispute. You can use any fiscal analysis that you want, but the truth is that working class Americans are facing a situation where emergency rooms and schools are facing huge budget shortfalls due to the surge in illegal immigration and the consequent rise in the number of uninsured individuals seeking care in local ER&#039;s and the unexpected rise in student populations at local schools.

Before you jump to the &quot;racist&quot; accusation- think about the following scenario. Imagine if 12 million Americans moved to Mexico without visas over a span of 5 years, radically changing the ethnic composition of neighborhoods and cities, arguably displacing Mexican workers, incurring huge expenditures at local ER&#039;s and schools, requiring Mexican teachers to teach in English and Spanish, starting new radio and TV stations in English, and were perceived (rightly or wrongly) as being responsible for higher crime rates in communities... what would the response of the Mexican government be? 

How quickly would they assert their right to control immigration in the name of preserving their culture and their way of life. How would they respond to a demographic challenge in which the growth of this immigrant population would make indigenous Mexicans a minority in a generation? 

No one talks about the double standard that has been created for countries with a majority-European population and those with a majority non-European population. Non-Europeans are allowed to assert their concerns about threats to culture and, like most African and Asian countries, can create nationalistic anti-immigration laws. If majority European countries do the same, they are accused of racism.

The double standard cannot hold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the report definitely contains inaccuracies, I think that the SPLC is incorrectly calling it extremist. There are some fundamental underlying truths in some statements:</p>
<p>1) immigrants make up a disproportionate number of prisoners- which understandably makes working-class Americans nervous about increased immigration due to the huge cost of incarceration and law enforcement; </p>
<p>2)from a health perspective- i agree that the leprosy claims are unfounded, but immigrants are more likely to have been exposed to TB in their home countries, which imposes a significant cost on the health care infrastructure due to the high cost of isolation techniques necessary for preventing airborne infections.</p>
<p>3)On a local level, the very high costs of illegal immigration are beyond dispute. You can use any fiscal analysis that you want, but the truth is that working class Americans are facing a situation where emergency rooms and schools are facing huge budget shortfalls due to the surge in illegal immigration and the consequent rise in the number of uninsured individuals seeking care in local ER&#8217;s and the unexpected rise in student populations at local schools.</p>
<p>Before you jump to the &#8220;racist&#8221; accusation- think about the following scenario. Imagine if 12 million Americans moved to Mexico without visas over a span of 5 years, radically changing the ethnic composition of neighborhoods and cities, arguably displacing Mexican workers, incurring huge expenditures at local ER&#8217;s and schools, requiring Mexican teachers to teach in English and Spanish, starting new radio and TV stations in English, and were perceived (rightly or wrongly) as being responsible for higher crime rates in communities&#8230; what would the response of the Mexican government be? </p>
<p>How quickly would they assert their right to control immigration in the name of preserving their culture and their way of life. How would they respond to a demographic challenge in which the growth of this immigrant population would make indigenous Mexicans a minority in a generation? </p>
<p>No one talks about the double standard that has been created for countries with a majority-European population and those with a majority non-European population. Non-Europeans are allowed to assert their concerns about threats to culture and, like most African and Asian countries, can create nationalistic anti-immigration laws. If majority European countries do the same, they are accused of racism.</p>
<p>The double standard cannot hold.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mayer</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/07/16/american-legion-immigration-report-replete-with-falsehoods/comment-page-1/#comment-31506</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m disgusted that I once contributed to SPLC (mainly due to the Klanwatch campaign). Now SPLC is undermining American workers and supporting the biggest scab action  in this country&#039;s history. 

Why do Bush and that bunch of liberals in the Chamber of Commerce so eagerly push for open borders? Is it because they are humanitarians who long to help their brown brothers or sisters? I suggest it’s because they know very well illegal immigrants will force down wages in the fields in which they work and weaken labor demands for such things as safer working conditions and health insurance. Which is what has happened; wages in such areas (fields in which I, myself, have worked) have declined. 

The fact that the workers have broken the law in coming here is a secondary point. It should not be ignored, but I’d probably do the same thing in their place. But why should it be only Mexicans? And why should the illegal employers (yes, there IS such a thing as an illegal employer) not be prosecuted to the fullest? 

And whose side are you on?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disgusted that I once contributed to SPLC (mainly due to the Klanwatch campaign). Now SPLC is undermining American workers and supporting the biggest scab action  in this country&#8217;s history. </p>
<p>Why do Bush and that bunch of liberals in the Chamber of Commerce so eagerly push for open borders? Is it because they are humanitarians who long to help their brown brothers or sisters? I suggest it’s because they know very well illegal immigrants will force down wages in the fields in which they work and weaken labor demands for such things as safer working conditions and health insurance. Which is what has happened; wages in such areas (fields in which I, myself, have worked) have declined. </p>
<p>The fact that the workers have broken the law in coming here is a secondary point. It should not be ignored, but I’d probably do the same thing in their place. But why should it be only Mexicans? And why should the illegal employers (yes, there IS such a thing as an illegal employer) not be prosecuted to the fullest? </p>
<p>And whose side are you on?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny, I think the American Legion is onto something:

&quot;Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law

...
But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them.

The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law.

...
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news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_re_us/road_rage_killing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I think the American Legion is onto something:</p>
<p>&#8220;Killings turn focus on San Francisco sanctuary law</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them.</p>
<p>The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law.</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
&#8221;<br />
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_re_us/road_rage_killing</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/07/16/american-legion-immigration-report-replete-with-falsehoods/comment-page-1/#comment-30139</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a former regular army officer I was a member of the American Legion for many years but withdrew from it&#039;s membership for just the sort of thing mentioned in the article.  It seemed that all they wanted to focus on is a silly &quot;flag-burning&quot; amendment to protect the flag (and trample the first amendment) and the sort of right wing rhetoric included here.  It is a shame that as a proud U.S. Army veteran I do not feel I can, in good conscience, be a member of the American Legion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former regular army officer I was a member of the American Legion for many years but withdrew from it&#8217;s membership for just the sort of thing mentioned in the article.  It seemed that all they wanted to focus on is a silly &#8220;flag-burning&#8221; amendment to protect the flag (and trample the first amendment) and the sort of right wing rhetoric included here.  It is a shame that as a proud U.S. Army veteran I do not feel I can, in good conscience, be a member of the American Legion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From American Legion Website: 

The American Legion’s booklet “A Strategy to Address Illegal Immigration in the United States” is being updated. Please come back soon for the new edition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From American Legion Website: </p>
<p>The American Legion’s booklet “A Strategy to Address Illegal Immigration in the United States” is being updated. Please come back soon for the new edition.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/07/16/american-legion-immigration-report-replete-with-falsehoods/comment-page-1/#comment-29944</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I&#039;m much more liberal than some of my American Legion counterparts, I have a number of friends in my post who I served in Iraq with (they&#039;re retired from the national guard now, and I&#039;m leaving after 20 years in service in September), we are in the Legion primarily for the camaraderie of our brother&#039;s in arms.  I can tell you that at least two that I served with and are in the post with are just as liberal, or independent I might say as I.

One thing I definitely don&#039;t agree with the Legion on is the slant they sometimes take on national political issues (namely leaning right-wing on presidential politics).  I believe they should be entirely non-partisan...court ALL the politicians to back veterans benefits.  Compared to a number of other countries, our nations honor to vets is horrible.  We are good at throwing ticker tape parades, and patting them on the back, but give it a year or two and they&#039;re left in the cold (figuratively and literally in some instances).

While I would like to see a crack down on illegals coming into the country, it is deplorable that the Legion would miss-represent the facts.  They should be ashamed, and have brought discredit to those of us that wear the legion hat.  I will be contacting National about that.

If we would have spent the near trillion dollars we&#039;ve spent in Iraq (that wasn&#039;t a terrorist training ground, but now is pumping them out like there&#039;s no tomorrow) on border security, better tracking of visitor/student visas, we&#039;d be far more secure than we are now.  But I suppose that will be thrown aside as liberal rhetoric.  Though I guess I could take the easy, uneducated, or more appropriately uninformed, scare tactic of &quot;the terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming, shoot everyone...we&#039;re all going to die.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m much more liberal than some of my American Legion counterparts, I have a number of friends in my post who I served in Iraq with (they&#8217;re retired from the national guard now, and I&#8217;m leaving after 20 years in service in September), we are in the Legion primarily for the camaraderie of our brother&#8217;s in arms.  I can tell you that at least two that I served with and are in the post with are just as liberal, or independent I might say as I.</p>
<p>One thing I definitely don&#8217;t agree with the Legion on is the slant they sometimes take on national political issues (namely leaning right-wing on presidential politics).  I believe they should be entirely non-partisan&#8230;court ALL the politicians to back veterans benefits.  Compared to a number of other countries, our nations honor to vets is horrible.  We are good at throwing ticker tape parades, and patting them on the back, but give it a year or two and they&#8217;re left in the cold (figuratively and literally in some instances).</p>
<p>While I would like to see a crack down on illegals coming into the country, it is deplorable that the Legion would miss-represent the facts.  They should be ashamed, and have brought discredit to those of us that wear the legion hat.  I will be contacting National about that.</p>
<p>If we would have spent the near trillion dollars we&#8217;ve spent in Iraq (that wasn&#8217;t a terrorist training ground, but now is pumping them out like there&#8217;s no tomorrow) on border security, better tracking of visitor/student visas, we&#8217;d be far more secure than we are now.  But I suppose that will be thrown aside as liberal rhetoric.  Though I guess I could take the easy, uneducated, or more appropriately uninformed, scare tactic of &#8220;the terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming, shoot everyone&#8230;we&#8217;re all going to die.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Slavyanski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slavyanski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reality check time.  First off, let&#039;s see a source on your claim regarding welfare benefits.  Second, many undocumented workers do not have children here, they are sending money back to families in Mexico. Next, and more importantly, what the hell is with all this &quot;socialist&quot; labelling?  If this country were socialist, you wouldn&#039;t have contractors and employers exploiting cheap labor from poorer nations.  Your illegal immigration problem is literally due to capitalism, capitalists, and specifically small businessmen like contractors.   

Only the united struggle of native and immigrant workers can back these people into a corner and achieve the wages, benefits, and safety measures these jobs should have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reality check time.  First off, let&#8217;s see a source on your claim regarding welfare benefits.  Second, many undocumented workers do not have children here, they are sending money back to families in Mexico. Next, and more importantly, what the hell is with all this &#8220;socialist&#8221; labelling?  If this country were socialist, you wouldn&#8217;t have contractors and employers exploiting cheap labor from poorer nations.  Your illegal immigration problem is literally due to capitalism, capitalists, and specifically small businessmen like contractors.   </p>
<p>Only the united struggle of native and immigrant workers can back these people into a corner and achieve the wages, benefits, and safety measures these jobs should have.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your claim that illegals cannot collect welfare is a flat out lie. Los Angeles County Supervisor Mike Antonovich posted figures from welfare officials showing that 25% of the Los Angeles welfare expenditures went to illegal aliens and their children. Illegal aliens use &quot;Anchor Babies&quot; to collect food stamps and housing assistance. 

Maybe you and your associate Socialists and open border promoters should get your facts straight. I don&#039;t get what you think is so wrong about protecting the sovereignty of ones own country. As far as crime goes even one murder, rape or hit and run driving fatality is to many if perpetrated by somone who shouldn&#039;t be here to begin with.

What is wrong with having controlled and orderly immigration into the United States?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your claim that illegals cannot collect welfare is a flat out lie. Los Angeles County Supervisor Mike Antonovich posted figures from welfare officials showing that 25% of the Los Angeles welfare expenditures went to illegal aliens and their children. Illegal aliens use &#8220;Anchor Babies&#8221; to collect food stamps and housing assistance. </p>
<p>Maybe you and your associate Socialists and open border promoters should get your facts straight. I don&#8217;t get what you think is so wrong about protecting the sovereignty of ones own country. As far as crime goes even one murder, rape or hit and run driving fatality is to many if perpetrated by somone who shouldn&#8217;t be here to begin with.</p>
<p>What is wrong with having controlled and orderly immigration into the United States?</p>
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		<title>By: loren</title>
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		<dc:creator>loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you SPLC for exposing the falsehoods in the American Legion booklet.  Part of being patiotic, as any Boy Scout knows, is telling the truth.  The American Legion has failed the truth test here.  It is sad when a respected organization is taken over by extremists who are willing to pursue their own political agenda, even if these views are detrimental to the organization itself.  It is equally sad that the American Legion does not value the sacrifices made by Latino veterans and their families.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you SPLC for exposing the falsehoods in the American Legion booklet.  Part of being patiotic, as any Boy Scout knows, is telling the truth.  The American Legion has failed the truth test here.  It is sad when a respected organization is taken over by extremists who are willing to pursue their own political agenda, even if these views are detrimental to the organization itself.  It is equally sad that the American Legion does not value the sacrifices made by Latino veterans and their families.</p>
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		<title>By: mrguapo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrguapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is sad when a respected group like the American Legion is unable to separate fact from fiction.  Apparently, they have been taken over by nativists who are more concerned with their own agenda, than in what is right or patriotic.  Part of being patriotic is the ability to tell the truth.  The American Legion, unfortunately has flunked the truth test on this matter.  It is also unfortunate that they have turned their backs on Latino veterans by subscribing to this dogma of hate and misinformation.  Thank you SPLC for investigating the information contained in their booklet and for exposing the lies contained within.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad when a respected group like the American Legion is unable to separate fact from fiction.  Apparently, they have been taken over by nativists who are more concerned with their own agenda, than in what is right or patriotic.  Part of being patriotic is the ability to tell the truth.  The American Legion, unfortunately has flunked the truth test on this matter.  It is also unfortunate that they have turned their backs on Latino veterans by subscribing to this dogma of hate and misinformation.  Thank you SPLC for investigating the information contained in their booklet and for exposing the lies contained within.</p>
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		<title>By: High John de Conquerer</title>
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		<dc:creator>High John de Conquerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m thankful the American Legion is getting involved in trying to get the border secured in contrast to the SPLC which is trying to create another 9-11.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thankful the American Legion is getting involved in trying to get the border secured in contrast to the SPLC which is trying to create another 9-11.</p>
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		<title>By: Slavyanski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slavyanski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note the child-like thinking of some people here:  When facts, coming from organizations like the GAO, IRS, or Social Security  administration don&#039;t go their way, they become &quot;liberal&quot;, &quot;anti-American&quot; facts, and thus invalid.  Thus facts no longer matter, because they can be painted with that brush and thus ignored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the child-like thinking of some people here:  When facts, coming from organizations like the GAO, IRS, or Social Security  administration don&#8217;t go their way, they become &#8220;liberal&#8221;, &#8220;anti-American&#8221; facts, and thus invalid.  Thus facts no longer matter, because they can be painted with that brush and thus ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You say that all their information is false, well they are going by stats like yourself, you just decide to go along with the most anti-American liberal stats you can find.
The bottom line is that these people have a right to question and to dislike our current lax immigration policies.  Organizations like the legion are concerned for our safety, our cultural heritage and our soverignty.
Why do you liberals find it so hard to comprehend that we are a nation of laws, and that we must protect this country from esentially an invading country that has no intentions of integrating into our culture or obeying our laws.

I say that all of your liberal facts are skewed, and you are trying to dupe the American citizen with YOUR hate rhetoric against &quot;Americans&quot;.

There are also well documented studies on the negative effects of immigration and this myth that multiculturism is good for anyone.

Quit trying to brand your hate label on anyone with opposing views.  This is straight out of the liberal playbook.

P.S.  I bet that you don&#039;t print this, of course that would also show your bias]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say that all their information is false, well they are going by stats like yourself, you just decide to go along with the most anti-American liberal stats you can find.<br />
The bottom line is that these people have a right to question and to dislike our current lax immigration policies.  Organizations like the legion are concerned for our safety, our cultural heritage and our soverignty.<br />
Why do you liberals find it so hard to comprehend that we are a nation of laws, and that we must protect this country from esentially an invading country that has no intentions of integrating into our culture or obeying our laws.</p>
<p>I say that all of your liberal facts are skewed, and you are trying to dupe the American citizen with YOUR hate rhetoric against &#8220;Americans&#8221;.</p>
<p>There are also well documented studies on the negative effects of immigration and this myth that multiculturism is good for anyone.</p>
<p>Quit trying to brand your hate label on anyone with opposing views.  This is straight out of the liberal playbook.</p>
<p>P.S.  I bet that you don&#8217;t print this, of course that would also show your bias</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THE TRUTH: While it’s true that Operation Predator made 6,000-plus arrests in its first two years, those arrested consisted of both documented and undocumented immigrants, as well as American citizens, according to ICE. &lt;B&gt;About 85% of those arrested were foreign nationals&lt;/B&gt;

Wow, of 6000 rapists and child molesters caught by Operation Predator, 5100 of them were &quot;foreign nationals!&quot;  That&#039;s shocking!  You prove the American Legion&#039;s point!  We need a government that looks after Americans rather than foreigners, and sharply defines what an American is.  According to SPLC logic, every person born on the planet out side of America is an embryonic American.  I say no.  Much of the world is full of people who I sure as heck wouldn&#039;t want in this country.  Let them stay where they are, and millions who are here need to be sent back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE TRUTH: While it’s true that Operation Predator made 6,000-plus arrests in its first two years, those arrested consisted of both documented and undocumented immigrants, as well as American citizens, according to ICE. <b>About 85% of those arrested were foreign nationals</b></p>
<p>Wow, of 6000 rapists and child molesters caught by Operation Predator, 5100 of them were &#8220;foreign nationals!&#8221;  That&#8217;s shocking!  You prove the American Legion&#8217;s point!  We need a government that looks after Americans rather than foreigners, and sharply defines what an American is.  According to SPLC logic, every person born on the planet out side of America is an embryonic American.  I say no.  Much of the world is full of people who I sure as heck wouldn&#8217;t want in this country.  Let them stay where they are, and millions who are here need to be sent back.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a shame (at minimum) that a fine organization such as the American Legion didn&#039;t check the facts before publishing this booklet.

Hopefully, they will DO THE RIGHT THING and issue both a recall of the booklet and an apology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame (at minimum) that a fine organization such as the American Legion didn&#8217;t check the facts before publishing this booklet.</p>
<p>Hopefully, they will DO THE RIGHT THING and issue both a recall of the booklet and an apology.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe McKInney,

&quot;I’m more afraid of my Anglo-American neighbors than I am of any other group, native-born or not. Oh and by the way, I’m a native-born white Irish American for anyone who’s wondering.&quot;

Anglo ... hmmmm ... are you implying animosity against the English?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe McKInney,</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m more afraid of my Anglo-American neighbors than I am of any other group, native-born or not. Oh and by the way, I’m a native-born white Irish American for anyone who’s wondering.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anglo &#8230; hmmmm &#8230; are you implying animosity against the English?</p>
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		<title>By: El Guapo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Guapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is really disgusting.  Lies about the effects of immigrants have been spread for years on the internet.  First it was the list of false facts supposedly generated by the LA Times.  The LA Times denied having printed the lies and then refuted them.  Then there was the 2006 INS/FBI report that included a list of lies.  Then last year was the list of lies spread by Frosty, Gheen and many, many others.  This year we have the Rubenstein report that includes bold lies.

I can understand the American Legion being deceived.  I cannot accept that they would spread them without verification.  That&#039;s disgusting.

If the adverse effects of illegal immigration were so bad, why is it necessary to lie about it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really disgusting.  Lies about the effects of immigrants have been spread for years on the internet.  First it was the list of false facts supposedly generated by the LA Times.  The LA Times denied having printed the lies and then refuted them.  Then there was the 2006 INS/FBI report that included a list of lies.  Then last year was the list of lies spread by Frosty, Gheen and many, many others.  This year we have the Rubenstein report that includes bold lies.</p>
<p>I can understand the American Legion being deceived.  I cannot accept that they would spread them without verification.  That&#8217;s disgusting.</p>
<p>If the adverse effects of illegal immigration were so bad, why is it necessary to lie about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe McKInney</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/07/16/american-legion-immigration-report-replete-with-falsehoods/comment-page-1/#comment-28886</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe McKInney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t you do YOUR homework Wm. Lewis?  Immigrants have never been nor will ever be a threat to this country.  To be honest, I&#039;m more afraid of my Anglo-American neighbors than I am of any other group, native-born or not.  Oh and by the way, I&#039;m a native-born white Irish American for anyone who&#039;s wondering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you do YOUR homework Wm. Lewis?  Immigrants have never been nor will ever be a threat to this country.  To be honest, I&#8217;m more afraid of my Anglo-American neighbors than I am of any other group, native-born or not.  Oh and by the way, I&#8217;m a native-born white Irish American for anyone who&#8217;s wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: IludiumPhosdex</title>
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		<dc:creator>IludiumPhosdex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It just so happens that the &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Legio Americana&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; has this nasty little reputation for associating with the weird and unwholesome from time to time.

During the 1920&#039;s and 1930&#039;s, Legionnaires acted as strike-breakers (&quot;scabs&quot; in the vernacular) during periods of labour unrest, in particular the Centralia Massacree in Washington state of 1919.

And the Legion has been known to associate with the Fascist element as required; Wikipedia&#039;s entry on the American Legion thus notes:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
According to congressional testimony in the 1930s, several of the American Legion&#039;s leaders, including its original bankroller Irénée du Pont, plotted a fascist coup against the Government of Franklin D. Roosevelt called the Business Plot. According to testimony, the plot was averted because Major General Smedley Butler warned Roosevelt of the plan.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(That, and expressing outright admiration for Benito Mussolini&#039;s Fascisti in Italy.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just so happens that the <b><i>Legio Americana</i></b> has this nasty little reputation for associating with the weird and unwholesome from time to time.</p>
<p>During the 1920&#8242;s and 1930&#8242;s, Legionnaires acted as strike-breakers (&#8220;scabs&#8221; in the vernacular) during periods of labour unrest, in particular the Centralia Massacree in Washington state of 1919.</p>
<p>And the Legion has been known to associate with the Fascist element as required; Wikipedia&#8217;s entry on the American Legion thus notes:</p>
<blockquote><p>
According to congressional testimony in the 1930s, several of the American Legion&#8217;s leaders, including its original bankroller Irénée du Pont, plotted a fascist coup against the Government of Franklin D. Roosevelt called the Business Plot. According to testimony, the plot was averted because Major General Smedley Butler warned Roosevelt of the plan.
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<p>(That, and expressing outright admiration for Benito Mussolini&#8217;s Fascisti in Italy.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious why the SPLC is so pro-illegal immigration?  Does the SPLC get funding from companies/individuals that benefit from illegal immigration?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious why the SPLC is so pro-illegal immigration?  Does the SPLC get funding from companies/individuals that benefit from illegal immigration?</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wm Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The SPLC will stop at nothing to make things easy for ILLEGAL ALIENS to continue invading the U.S.   

The Legion is made up of those people who fought for this country and it&#039;s CITIZENS/LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

Many of the items you have pointed out as incorrect are actually quite correct.  Do you homework HONESTLY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SPLC will stop at nothing to make things easy for ILLEGAL ALIENS to continue invading the U.S.   </p>
<p>The Legion is made up of those people who fought for this country and it&#8217;s CITIZENS/LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.</p>
<p>Many of the items you have pointed out as incorrect are actually quite correct.  Do you homework HONESTLY</p>
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