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	<title>Comments on: White Nationalists Applaud American Enterprise Institute Fellow</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-241039</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it doesn’t matter that some immigrant groups not considered white when they came to the United States are considered white today, such as the Irish and Sicilians&quot;

Pray tell, if Irish and Sicilians were not considered white under the naturalization law of 1770, why were they allowed to naturalize and engage in all the activities appropriated to whites.  Why, for example, were English-Irish marriages not classified as miscegenation in the same manner that English-Asian marriages were?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it doesn’t matter that some immigrant groups not considered white when they came to the United States are considered white today, such as the Irish and Sicilians&#8221;</p>
<p>Pray tell, if Irish and Sicilians were not considered white under the naturalization law of 1770, why were they allowed to naturalize and engage in all the activities appropriated to whites.  Why, for example, were English-Irish marriages not classified as miscegenation in the same manner that English-Asian marriages were?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Brogan</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-55238</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the video on C-Span of the American Enterprise Institute and was amazed at how blase they were about being openly what is called racist today. No political correctness here they seemed to be saying, we think you are inferior if not like us (White, pasty, balding,  rich people). Also, this downright ultra eliitst attitude (smarmy?) as if they carry a certificate of the IQ with them so they can prove they are superior in some way and as if to say, where&#039;s your copy of your IQ? How uncool as a human being can you get, I guess just check in at the Institute to find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the video on C-Span of the American Enterprise Institute and was amazed at how blase they were about being openly what is called racist today. No political correctness here they seemed to be saying, we think you are inferior if not like us (White, pasty, balding,  rich people). Also, this downright ultra eliitst attitude (smarmy?) as if they carry a certificate of the IQ with them so they can prove they are superior in some way and as if to say, where&#8217;s your copy of your IQ? How uncool as a human being can you get, I guess just check in at the Institute to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Chi</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-47730</link>
		<dc:creator>Chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irving, 

Your comment is excellent proof of why organizations like the SPL are so crucial.

&quot;That’s false, of course. And there’s an abundance of proof verifying that environment plays just a tiny part in I.Q., as does nutrition. Flynn is wrong on many other points as well.&quot;

Except that whites living in poor countries (e.g. some countries in Latin America and Eastern Europe) have shown IQ scores similar to that of black Americans. Explain that.

&quot;It’s not even necessary to have training in the subject to know that if Flynn were right blacks have had two centuries to catch up to….. not just whites…. but all the other races too, and they still lag far behind.&quot;

This makes no sense. 2 centuries would have little influence on the millenia of evolutionary history that would explain race-IQ differences according to folks like Sailer, Richwine, etc.

Also, blacks have never had a written language? Are you fucking kidding me? As for Africa being &quot;backward&quot; and in the &quot;Stone-Age,&quot; you&#039;ve obviously never been to Africa or know anything about African history, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irving, </p>
<p>Your comment is excellent proof of why organizations like the SPL are so crucial.</p>
<p>&#8220;That’s false, of course. And there’s an abundance of proof verifying that environment plays just a tiny part in I.Q., as does nutrition. Flynn is wrong on many other points as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except that whites living in poor countries (e.g. some countries in Latin America and Eastern Europe) have shown IQ scores similar to that of black Americans. Explain that.</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s not even necessary to have training in the subject to know that if Flynn were right blacks have had two centuries to catch up to….. not just whites…. but all the other races too, and they still lag far behind.&#8221;</p>
<p>This makes no sense. 2 centuries would have little influence on the millenia of evolutionary history that would explain race-IQ differences according to folks like Sailer, Richwine, etc.</p>
<p>Also, blacks have never had a written language? Are you fucking kidding me? As for Africa being &#8220;backward&#8221; and in the &#8220;Stone-Age,&#8221; you&#8217;ve obviously never been to Africa or know anything about African history, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: epaminondas</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-40784</link>
		<dc:creator>epaminondas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAS, you are truly an example of a slave fitting the &#039;facts&#039; to the master of the dialectic.

Your description of the HERO Hirsi Ali is a denigration of objective reality.

Post the url&#039;s which prove your assertions, or can it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAS, you are truly an example of a slave fitting the &#8216;facts&#8217; to the master of the dialectic.</p>
<p>Your description of the HERO Hirsi Ali is a denigration of objective reality.</p>
<p>Post the url&#8217;s which prove your assertions, or can it.</p>
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		<title>By: SAS</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-39402</link>
		<dc:creator>SAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a very interesting article.

I wonder if the American Enterprise Institute is an openly racist organization ?

It is worth noting that the Institute that played an important part in architecting the invasion of Iraq over a pack of lies and fabrications.

One of the most interesting additions to the Institute is a character by the name of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an ex Dutch MP of Somali origin who was thrown out unceremoniously from her adopted homeland for fabricating her entire life story. The only reason she was offered a post with them was because she is an Islam critic who openly promotes intolerance towards Muslims and openly supports the very worst excesses of US and Western nations towards the Global South.

So the Enterprise Institute engineers wars over lies and fabrications and sponsors individuals who rise to fame over lies and fabrications.

Rather fitting if one thinks of it !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a very interesting article.</p>
<p>I wonder if the American Enterprise Institute is an openly racist organization ?</p>
<p>It is worth noting that the Institute that played an important part in architecting the invasion of Iraq over a pack of lies and fabrications.</p>
<p>One of the most interesting additions to the Institute is a character by the name of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an ex Dutch MP of Somali origin who was thrown out unceremoniously from her adopted homeland for fabricating her entire life story. The only reason she was offered a post with them was because she is an Islam critic who openly promotes intolerance towards Muslims and openly supports the very worst excesses of US and Western nations towards the Global South.</p>
<p>So the Enterprise Institute engineers wars over lies and fabrications and sponsors individuals who rise to fame over lies and fabrications.</p>
<p>Rather fitting if one thinks of it !</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-38299</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin,

One need a bit of a leap of faith to assume that race science is a &quot;sinking ship&quot;.  Why would different races turn out exactly the same after evolving over many thousands of years under varying conditions spread across vast distances?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin,</p>
<p>One need a bit of a leap of faith to assume that race science is a &#8220;sinking ship&#8221;.  Why would different races turn out exactly the same after evolving over many thousands of years under varying conditions spread across vast distances?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-38147</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Race science is like herpes...just when you think it&#039;s gone for good, there it is to piss you off. The great seeping wart on our cultural discourse. 

Yes, I know you probably think wikipedia is part of the new world order or something, but I don&#039;t feel like wasting the effort of finding documented sources for what is really general knowledge. 

&quot;Blacks never had a written language&quot;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amharic

&quot;they have lived a stone-age existence for 5000 years&quot;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu

And so on. 

Fascism and eugenics had their moment last century, now it&#039;s kinda like flat earth theory. If you want to go down with that sinking ship, be my guest, but the grown ups have work to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Race science is like herpes&#8230;just when you think it&#8217;s gone for good, there it is to piss you off. The great seeping wart on our cultural discourse. </p>
<p>Yes, I know you probably think wikipedia is part of the new world order or something, but I don&#8217;t feel like wasting the effort of finding documented sources for what is really general knowledge. </p>
<p>&#8220;Blacks never had a written language&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amharic" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amharic</a></p>
<p>&#8220;they have lived a stone-age existence for 5000 years&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu</a></p>
<p>And so on. </p>
<p>Fascism and eugenics had their moment last century, now it&#8217;s kinda like flat earth theory. If you want to go down with that sinking ship, be my guest, but the grown ups have work to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Irving</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-37890</link>
		<dc:creator>Irving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The prominent social scientist James Flynn, who debated Murray in 2006 at AEI, believes that the cause of the black-white IQ gap is environmental, rather than genetic, and can be further reduced by improving the conditions in which black children grow up.&quot;

That&#039;s false, of course.  And there&#039;s an abundance of proof verifying that environment plays just a tiny part in I.Q., as does nutrition.  Flynn is wrong on many other points as well. 

It&#039;s not even necessary to have training in the subject to know that if Flynn were right blacks have had two centuries to catch up to..... not just whites.... but all the other races too, and they still lag far behind.

Hispanics in the US have an average I.Q. of 89, while blacks score on average, as a group, 85, but keep in mind many mixed race blacks are counted within that group, so there is some misrepresentation involved.

But, after writing the above, I have to say that I.Q. is not accurate enough to obtain overall intellectual ability, as it doesn&#039;t consider many things; however, unfortunately, the abilities the testing does not cover involve those that blacks are lacking as well.

Research reveals that in cases where blacks score about the same on I.Q. tests as another group, they don&#039;t do as well overall and still can&#039;t seem to advance themselves as   the comparative group has done.  This would be strong evidence of having less abilities in areas not covered by I.Q. tests.

Want more evidence?

Look at black Africa and the rest of the world.  Do you see any other civilization that is so backward, with the possible exception of Australian Aborigines or an Amazon Indian tribe or two?

Blacks never had a written language; they never invented the wheel, and they have lived a stone-age existence for 5000 years.   Being behind everybody right now means only that they&#039;re progressing the same as they always have:  Very little or not at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The prominent social scientist James Flynn, who debated Murray in 2006 at AEI, believes that the cause of the black-white IQ gap is environmental, rather than genetic, and can be further reduced by improving the conditions in which black children grow up.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s false, of course.  And there&#8217;s an abundance of proof verifying that environment plays just a tiny part in I.Q., as does nutrition.  Flynn is wrong on many other points as well. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not even necessary to have training in the subject to know that if Flynn were right blacks have had two centuries to catch up to&#8230;.. not just whites&#8230;. but all the other races too, and they still lag far behind.</p>
<p>Hispanics in the US have an average I.Q. of 89, while blacks score on average, as a group, 85, but keep in mind many mixed race blacks are counted within that group, so there is some misrepresentation involved.</p>
<p>But, after writing the above, I have to say that I.Q. is not accurate enough to obtain overall intellectual ability, as it doesn&#8217;t consider many things; however, unfortunately, the abilities the testing does not cover involve those that blacks are lacking as well.</p>
<p>Research reveals that in cases where blacks score about the same on I.Q. tests as another group, they don&#8217;t do as well overall and still can&#8217;t seem to advance themselves as   the comparative group has done.  This would be strong evidence of having less abilities in areas not covered by I.Q. tests.</p>
<p>Want more evidence?</p>
<p>Look at black Africa and the rest of the world.  Do you see any other civilization that is so backward, with the possible exception of Australian Aborigines or an Amazon Indian tribe or two?</p>
<p>Blacks never had a written language; they never invented the wheel, and they have lived a stone-age existence for 5000 years.   Being behind everybody right now means only that they&#8217;re progressing the same as they always have:  Very little or not at all.</p>
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		<title>By: the Great Southern Trend Kill</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-37609</link>
		<dc:creator>the Great Southern Trend Kill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they discovered by their own research which shows that--

10 out of 1000 children for Blacks.
7 out of 1000 children for Hispanics
And 
6 out of 1000 children for Whites Non-Hispanics

Sure sounds fairly close tollowed by Hispanics.

Then it must be &quot;false&quot; to actually think Whites are superior???
Hence, the research gave no data on other ethnic groups
i. e. Native Americans, Muslims, Jews and Asians)
Other than Blacks, Hispanics and Whites.

In fact, other datas has indicated that Asians (Non European) have a higher Intellectual Quotas(IQ) than the White Non-Hispanic types. (???) Jews are known to have the highest IQ`s. Despite what Jason Richwine says, it is biased and slightly contorted. His claims may be refutable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they discovered by their own research which shows that&#8211;</p>
<p>10 out of 1000 children for Blacks.<br />
7 out of 1000 children for Hispanics<br />
And<br />
6 out of 1000 children for Whites Non-Hispanics</p>
<p>Sure sounds fairly close tollowed by Hispanics.</p>
<p>Then it must be &#8220;false&#8221; to actually think Whites are superior???<br />
Hence, the research gave no data on other ethnic groups<br />
i. e. Native Americans, Muslims, Jews and Asians)<br />
Other than Blacks, Hispanics and Whites.</p>
<p>In fact, other datas has indicated that Asians (Non European) have a higher Intellectual Quotas(IQ) than the White Non-Hispanic types. (???) Jews are known to have the highest IQ`s. Despite what Jason Richwine says, it is biased and slightly contorted. His claims may be refutable.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-37591</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex O,

You best learn the rules of America and stop quoting those hateful statistics or defying your moral superiors.  Here are the rules:

1.  Liberals are always right.

2.  If there is some fact that might seem to be in conflict with what liberals say, see Rule #1.  Or else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex O,</p>
<p>You best learn the rules of America and stop quoting those hateful statistics or defying your moral superiors.  Here are the rules:</p>
<p>1.  Liberals are always right.</p>
<p>2.  If there is some fact that might seem to be in conflict with what liberals say, see Rule #1.  Or else.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex O</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-37571</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize that I left out my source.
Google &quot;Retardation by race&quot; and click the first link - the &quot;Measure D7&quot; link.
http://www.epa.gov/economics/children/child_illness/d7-graph.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize that I left out my source.<br />
Google &#8220;Retardation by race&#8221; and click the first link &#8211; the &#8220;Measure D7&#8243; link.<br />
<a href="http://www.epa.gov/economics/children/child_illness/d7-graph.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/economics/c.....-graph.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex O</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/09/04/white-nationalists-applaud-american-enterprise-institute-fellow/comment-page-1/#comment-37570</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Speaking of “gentics”, why is it that Whites produce more retardation and mentally challenged offsprings than any other ethnic groups???&quot;

They don&#039;t.

&quot;Black, non-Hispanic&quot; has the highest numbers (and remember: they are approx. 13% of the population) at 1.1 cases per 1000 and &quot;Hispanics&quot; were at .67/1000.

&quot;White, non-Hispanic&quot; were the lowest measured at .57/1000.

(&quot;Asian, non-Hispanic&quot; data was deemed &quot;unreliable&quot;.)

This data combined with the fact that Whites are a higher proportion of the population than both Blacks and Hispanics, your claim that &quot;Whites produce more retardation&quot; is false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Speaking of “gentics”, why is it that Whites produce more retardation and mentally challenged offsprings than any other ethnic groups???&#8221;</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>&#8220;Black, non-Hispanic&#8221; has the highest numbers (and remember: they are approx. 13% of the population) at 1.1 cases per 1000 and &#8220;Hispanics&#8221; were at .67/1000.</p>
<p>&#8220;White, non-Hispanic&#8221; were the lowest measured at .57/1000.</p>
<p>(&#8220;Asian, non-Hispanic&#8221; data was deemed &#8220;unreliable&#8221;.)</p>
<p>This data combined with the fact that Whites are a higher proportion of the population than both Blacks and Hispanics, your claim that &#8220;Whites produce more retardation&#8221; is false.</p>
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		<title>By: the Great Southern Trend Kill</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Great Southern Trend Kill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obvisouly when it comes to Hispanics. There are different types, but the two most prominent groups are called Mestizos and Ameriindians. 
Mestizos have European ancentry as the article points out--(Spain and Portaguise) then came other other Euro groups that mixed with the Amerindians. Mestizos of Mexico were the ones that ruled Mexico since the fall of the Spanish conquistadors.

Now regarding the 3 ethnic group that have been here the longest.

&quot;Have not assimilated into cultural mainstream as typified by White Americans.&quot;

Funny. Because Blacks have assimilated quicker than the Mexicans and Native Americans. Black folks were already part of the &quot;cultural mainstream&quot; post slavery era. The Native Americans were the only ones who did not assimilate into the White man`s society. Today its the Mexicans, and its those who don&#039;t bother to learn English. Blacks and Native Americans are the two only groups that already English speakers for the last 100 years. And most Mexicans from Mexico still do not.

&quot;He failed to mentioned that those groups were subjected to institutionalized prejudice.&quot;

Primarily Blacks and Native Americans, both of whom were treated harshly, inhumanly, and degraderly which forced them to take matters into their own hands and that was called determination. The start of the civil rights era and the Native American Movement.

&quot;The Black-White IQ gap is environmental rather than gentic.&quot;

Speaking of &quot;gentics&quot;, why is it that Whites produce more retardation and mentally challenged offsprings than any other ethnic groups???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obvisouly when it comes to Hispanics. There are different types, but the two most prominent groups are called Mestizos and Ameriindians.<br />
Mestizos have European ancentry as the article points out&#8211;(Spain and Portaguise) then came other other Euro groups that mixed with the Amerindians. Mestizos of Mexico were the ones that ruled Mexico since the fall of the Spanish conquistadors.</p>
<p>Now regarding the 3 ethnic group that have been here the longest.</p>
<p>&#8220;Have not assimilated into cultural mainstream as typified by White Americans.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny. Because Blacks have assimilated quicker than the Mexicans and Native Americans. Black folks were already part of the &#8220;cultural mainstream&#8221; post slavery era. The Native Americans were the only ones who did not assimilate into the White man`s society. Today its the Mexicans, and its those who don&#8217;t bother to learn English. Blacks and Native Americans are the two only groups that already English speakers for the last 100 years. And most Mexicans from Mexico still do not.</p>
<p>&#8220;He failed to mentioned that those groups were subjected to institutionalized prejudice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Primarily Blacks and Native Americans, both of whom were treated harshly, inhumanly, and degraderly which forced them to take matters into their own hands and that was called determination. The start of the civil rights era and the Native American Movement.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Black-White IQ gap is environmental rather than gentic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Speaking of &#8220;gentics&#8221;, why is it that Whites produce more retardation and mentally challenged offsprings than any other ethnic groups???</p>
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