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Duke Claims Triumph at Shortened, Relocated EURO Conference
David Duke revealed this about himself last Saturday: He’s no whiz at math. Or logic.
Speaking to the faithful at a conference of his European American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO), Duke said that while nobody is for lynching, liberals have falsely portrayed the history of the gruesome practice. Contrary to popular belief, Duke said, most of the roughly 5,000 people he said were lynched in this country were white. Then he said as many as half of the victims were black.
Either way, he’s wrong.
Between 1882 and 1968, there were 4,743 lynchings in the United States, and 3,446 of the victims were black, according to the Archives at Tuskegee Institute. That means nearly 73 percent of those lynched were black.
None of the diehards at the EURO conference questioned Duke’s figures. They were too busy congratulating one another for even having a conference. For a while last week it appeared that Duke’s fans might not get to hear his wisdom on lynching and other racial issues. It even appeared Duke might end up sleeping on a bench at a Greyhound station or under a tree in a city park.
EURO initially scheduled a conference Nov. 7-9 at a hotel and resort in Olive Branch, Miss., near Memphis. The hotel booted the group out on Nov. 4, citing safety concerns as a result of the furor created by the Duke group’s planned appearance.
Duke’s co-organizer of the event, James Edwards (pictured with Duke below), host of radical-right Memphis radio show “The Political Cesspool,” was so traumatized by this development that “my body literally went into a convulsive state,” he wrote on his program’s website. “I can remember gagging while I was on the phone with David as we tried to determine what our options were. The stress was nearly more than I could bear.” Meanwhile, Duke’s notoriety got him ejected from three hotel rooms, according to Edwards.
Eventually Duke found a hotel for the conference and himself. He kept it a closely guarded secret lest they be banished again. EURO organizers and volunteers called those with reservations with the new location – the Memphis Plaza Hotel & Suites, about 15 miles from downtown – and informed them that they would now have to make their own hotel arrangements. And the three-day gathering was shortened to one day – Nov. 8. “We have succeeded,” Duke declared at the conference “We have triumphed.”
About 200 of the more than 300 people who had planned to attend did so, according to Edwards. A Memphis TV station estimated the number to be 75 to 100 participants. Video shot in the hotel meeting room seems to support the smaller estimate. Even so, “never before have I been so proud of our People,” Edwards wrote.
Duke and his colleagues portrayed themselves as martyrs persevering for the preservation of their race. Those attending heard speakers who included Edwards, former Alabama Klan leader and white supremacist website founder Don Black and Duke, of course.
Duke bemoaned the “national celebration” that ensued after black teens attacked a white teen in Jena, La. nearly two years ago. That assault was preceded by a series of racially charged incidents, including the hanging of nooses from a tree in a courtyard at Jena High School.
The hangman’s noose is a powerful symbol in Duke’s home state of Louisiana, which trails only Mississippi, Georgia and Texas in the greatest number of lynchings, according to the Tuskegee archives. Although Duke claimed at the EURO conference that most of the people who were lynched were “guilty of terrible crimes,” lynching in fact has been widely recognized as a way for whites at one time to punish and control blacks through intimidation, especially in the South.
Racially motivated vigilante murder was even sanctioned by elected officials such as former South Carolina Governor and U.S. Senator Ben Tillman who in 1892 said he would “willingly lead a mob in lynching a Negro who had committed an assault on a white woman.” And by Sen. Thomas Heflin of Alabama who in 1930 said, “Whenever a Negro crosses this dead line between the white and the Negro races and lays his black hand on a white woman, he deserves to die.”
As usual, Duke carefully steered clear of any such explicitly racist or violent rhetoric in his address to the EURO crowd. Instead, to loud cheers and applause, he promised a bright future for people who share his racial views.
“We are going to have a tremendous movement in this country for our organization and people’s rights and destiny and heritage and freedoms,” Duke told them. “Just the same way you have groups such as the NAACP … people from the ADL … we’re going to have the biggest organization of any group in the United States for our people.”
on November 13th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Please remove the Hate if you intend to represent White Christian Americans there David.
on November 13th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
What are you talking about????? You are like my 5 year old daughter. You just can’t quite understand logic and reason. Why is David Duke on this website? He is not a hate monger. Not even close. Try backing up your claims and then I will recognize you as able to process a complete thought….
on November 13th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Imagine, if you will, the Unlikely Prospect of a rugby team of so-called “Confederate Southern Americans” playing the new, multi-racial Springboks (South Africa’s national rugby team) in a series of exhibition matches.
(Recall, folks, that the apartheid regime used the Springboks as a racist propaganda tool.)
on November 13th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I will continue to pray for David Duke and the many others that think like him, that somehow they gets right with God before leaving this earth.
Where there is grace, there is No race…
http://www.joebednarsky.com
For God’s Glory, Joe
on November 13th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
That’s BS there Benjamin, the man is about nothing but denial. What was the whole point of the euro conference except grandiosity, A MEALY MOUTHED ATTEMPT AT INTIMIDATION AFTER THE ELECTION AND FUTURE DONATIONS.
There’s a new Klan in Alabama and David doesn’t have the BALLZ to return any of the phone calls from a STATE HE USED TO DISGRASE.
on November 13th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
I wonder if Duke’s face is going to fall apart like Michael Jackson’s.
Oh yes I almost forgot- what a TRIUMPH it was booking a conference at a hotel. It must have been similar to the rush of adrenaline I got from booking a vacation in two countries this summer.
on November 13th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Yeah good for him with that “75″(or less) loyal fans who did show up this time, then he prattles on to how he and his ilk would be the next largest group in the Nation.
Sorry, but I’m not buying into that illusory fantasy and I doubt it will be anything equalvalent to the next klan. They’re just not capable of it, bottomline. That’s merely a lot of talk and wishful thinking. Especially when many of their members will end up in prison under a new administration.
And finally, coming to think of it. EURO is anything but American. If they wanted “European Rights” so badly, they simply need to organize in Europe rather than waste their time getting the(steeled toed)boot.
on November 14th, 2008 at 11:34 am
The reason, I believe, that Duke refers to whites as European-Americans is because of the farce that black people call themselves African-Americans. I would be embarassed and humiliated if I were black and someone called me African-American. Not quite American, not quite African. So GENO, your new administration is going to put white people in prison for exercising their right to preserve their heritage and right to free speech? I’m not surprised you would say that. Here’s the point you liberals don’ t understand. I have the right to want to preserve my way of life. And if I don’t prefer to associate with black people, I have that right. Your Jewish-run liberal media attempts to engrain that if a white person loves where they are from, then they are bigots. You correlate white pride with white supremacy. That is a blunder of ignorance on your part. But black people can cite MLK Jr., Malcolm X, and Black Entertainment Television. But if whites were to stand up for what they believe in, we end up on http://www.splc.org under the Hate Watch section. I’m beginning to wonder if people of color are jealous of the white man. I simply can not find any other reason to justify your ignorant, inept, and poorly conceived opinions. But guess what, minorities can speak out on their opinions of race in this country, but how DARE a white man do the same. I’ll put it to you like this folks, because I’m no fool. The blacks in this country, excluding those that put morals, hard-work and ethics in the fore-front, are trying to outbreed the white race and takeover our society with the welfare, hip-hop culture which treats women like garbage and puts money above all else. I am against all violence against all people, but the day will come when we all will have to defend our constitutional rights.
on November 14th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
It’s funny how some people say that the USA is a deeply “racist” nation where minorities are suppressed, blah, blah, blah … I think this David Duke example along with Obama being elected president proves things to be quite the opposite.
on November 14th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Ben, you continue to defend Duke and Black.
The obvious majority of the postings on stormfront are wanna be neo nazi types that have no credibility, just lonely loudmouths that couldn’t go out in their own communities to run for office much less on a higher level.
This is the only way to present change or preservation.
I see no qualified lobbyist on Stormfront.
on November 14th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Benjamin,
“So GENO your new administration is going to put white people in prison for excersing their right to preserving their heritage and their right to free speech?”
Hate speech isn’t “free speech”. Try studying the policies and the definition of “free speech” and how it is applied. And as far as you being afraid to go to prison. All you need to do is obey all apects of the law which I doubt you`ll follow. Just as long as you and your little terrorist buddies don’t retort to domestic terrorism and violence, which has been the trademark of your White Extreminism. But as uneducated as you are, I will dumb this down for you so you`ll understand.
The difference between you and I, my foe, is that I detest White Extreminism on every level. That includes neo-Nazism, KKK, NSM, CI, Aryan Supremacy, WN and other sorted White Domestic Terrorists groups. I don’t denigrate the entire “White” people in general. Heck, half of my comrades are White!!
You on the other hand, accuses every non-White or Jew of denoucing the entire White race. Personally, I don’t speak for others but myself and I don’t agree with half of the non-White posters who admonish the entire White race altogether. So what you fail to understand is that the common White person is not a White Supremacist much like yourself. The vast majority of Whites do not share your views simply because they are White. I don’t have a problem with those type people but White Supremacists??? That I won’t tolerate. This is where you can’t seem to comprehend the difference.
As far you prattling on about Blacks, MLK etcetera, I won’t bother to address. It just tells me that you’re incapable of understanding anything beyond “White Power”. That’s the limit of your narrowed mind. So there you have it.
on November 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Ken,
Ben’s last post only mentioned Duke in reference to why, possibly, he so named his organization and didn’t even mention Mr. Black. It hardly amounts to a continued defense of Duke and Black.
on November 14th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
GENO,
As I’ve mentioned here a few times, I’m not particularly enthusiastic about a number of “pro-White” as I feel they do more damage to legitimate White interests than good.
The problem though is that any assertion of interests for White people is denounced as “Nazism”, “KKKlanism” or “White Supremacy”. It’s gotten to the point where certain foolish White people say that they are “ashamed” to be White or “feel guilty” for slavery that happened more than 140 years ago – funny, I’m sure that they weren’t alive then!
on November 14th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
I am a black man and am appalled at how Dr. David Duke’s free speech rights were infringed upon this past weekend here in my state of Tennessee.
I feel the media was very biased against this organization. From what I have read on the internet this conference was intended to be a peaceful gathering of white folks, I see no problem with that. As long as they leave the white robes at home and are not inciting violence they should have the same rights as any other organization.
Otherwise, we are moving backwards, brothers and sisters. Civil rights are for all people. How can we expect people to take our struggle seriously if we actively condemn and attempt to stifle another man for his ideas?
on November 14th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Jonathan
When it comes to Duke and Black they are one in the same.
How in the world can the white pride movement progress when the educational agenda is blatant denial,
I feel we need to stand up, fess up. and lay our cards on the table to prepare for All Legal Americans to defend our country before we are taken by surprise as this all consumes our awareness.
on November 14th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
I think that Dr. David Duke has the right to believe whatever he wants to believe as long as he is not breaking the law. The people who attend these events have the right to believe whatever they want to believe as long as they don’t break the law. I think that he is a changed man (from the KKK) and that many people can’t see that he has changed. He promotes non-violence and tells everyone to follow the law. He is looking out for the best interest in what he believes is his people. White people are broken up into many different sub-categories and that’s who he is talking to; it’s hard for the non-whites in this country to see that there are different cultures of white (rich, poor, country, city, liberal, conservative, north, south & so on). I can see where many black people are coming from (lynching, discrimination & rape) but the same rights that allowed should apply to everyone no matter how unpopular it seems to everyone else (at a time black people to be free and vote was very unpopular).
on November 14th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Guess the whole thing boils down to whether or not you believe in liberty. Whether you are familar with what David Duke actually has to say, or strongly disagree with what Dr. Duke has to say, all Americans should agree that he has the right to say whatever he wants, he and other white nationalists have the right to peacefully assemble, and petition the government for redress. They have the right to organize themselves, to host benefits and protests.
David Duke’s rights have been severly undermined. The reason that the Euro Conference was cancelled was because people opposed to what David Duke had to say were phoning in terrorist threats against the conference, the hotel, the hotel managers and employees. If this had been La Raza or the NAACP, the FBI would be investigating this injustice, but since it was White people law enforcement played an active role in undermine Dr. Duke’s rights.
White people are currently the most racially oppressed people in this country. Perhaps, the SPLC should look into the victimization of Whites instead of imagining that any time white people get together its a Klan Gathering.
on November 14th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
The article is misleading. It states that Dr Duke was wrong in his saying that more whites were lynched than blacks in the history of the U.S. Then the author proceeds to give numbers for lynchings between 1882 and 1968. What happened to the first 106 years of the country?
It also does not state the reason why the conference had so many issues and why David Duke got kicked out of so many hotels. It was because of death, bomb threats from radicals. Why is this not a big deal? Why has the mainstream media not brought this up? If this had been a Jewish/black conference and they had received death threats that would be plastered all over the media. What’s up with the double standard?
The whole article is extremely biased, but that’s not at all surprising considering the source.
on November 14th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
I hope that someday white people will be able to have advocacy groups like the blacks and Jews and Mexicans and all the others do. We have a black president and we will be a minority soon so what else do we need to do in order for our groups not to be racist? SPLC is a Jewish supremacist hate group. Duke doesn’t talk about hating anybody.
on November 14th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Stormfront is not merely “pro-white” political discussion by any means; much of the posters on there just randomly yell and rant and whenever a slightest disagreement comes up, people take sides and accuse one another of being a “Jew among them” or whatnot. I remember once when a user got banned (despite having 500+ posts, and a proven record on that site) because he was discovered to be 1/32nd native american.
on November 14th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
I’m sorry. Whenever I hear people saying they’re “just defending their way of life” on these issues, it always seems to mean “I’m not giving up any of MY priviledges”. Perhaps a reason there are not really any legit (not racist) “White’s rights” groups is because there has been a long dominant culture placing white, rich men at the top. Really, terms such as “white” and “black” are very non-specific, given the great cultural diversity within those groups. Heck, equivalent “White Power” groups in Western Europe don’t define Eastern Europeans as belong in their “race” and are considered “foreign”.
on November 14th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Why didn’t your article mention that the manager of the hotel where the conference was originally scheduled received death threats for booking the conference? Isn’t making such threats hate in your judgment??
on November 15th, 2008 at 12:55 am
In response to: “Just as long as you and your little terrorist buddies don’t retort to domestic terrorism and violence, which has been the trademark of your White Extreminism.”
One has to wonder what planet some of you people are living on.
You’re worried about a few hundred peaceful white people getting together for coffee and conversation about issues that concern them, yet you ignore the fact that blacks comprise about 12% of the population and commit about 70% of all violent crime.
You ignore the fact that about 40,000 white women are raped by black men each year, while virtually no black women are raped by black men – and this according to an FBI survey.
You ignore the fact that black-on-white crime continues to grow astronomically – assault, battery, armed robbery, carjackings, rape, murder, even torture – much of which is conveniently ignored by the media.
And yet you have the NERVE to speak about white people as violent and “domestic terrorists”. One has to wonder who the real terrorists are in our society.
on November 15th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Jonathan,
The Whites I know are proud patriotic Americans much like myself. If they’re “guilty” of anything, it simply has nothing to do with race or them being “White”. It doesn’t occure to them of what happen centuries ago because they weren’t born and didn’t have anything to do with their ancestors lynching of blacks and the killing non-Whites. If they wanted to show off their pride as simply being “White”, they don’t do it by donning a robe or playing dress up as Hitler`s Youth and marching the streets to detest Blacks etc. They do in ways that’s more respective to their self-worth as whom they are as “White” people.
The White Supremacists show off their pride through acts of violence and intimidation. History has shown this over and over again.
“Pro-White” interests in politics whose agenda is to “keep minorities in their place”, has a history of trying to undo equal oportunities for non-White applicants. Promotes favoritism based on race and class and creed. Limits access for non-Whites who are as qualified as Whites etcertera. That’s the “Pro-White” interests I recognize, which I strongly oppose because they’re afraid that what?? That non-Whites will catch up? Advanced towards higher education? Take political positions? What’s wrong with non-Whites seeking the American Dream? The last time I check, that applies equally to every American regardless of race.
on November 15th, 2008 at 2:04 am
Joseph V. Bednarsky Jr. said,
on November 13th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I will continue to pray for David Duke and the many others that think like him, that somehow they gets right with God before leaving this earth.
Where there is grace, there is No race…
http://www.joebednarsky.com
For God’s Glory, Joe
Joe,
Just look at the murder/rape/violent crime rate of blacks on whites. All the praying in the world isn’t going to stop
the abuse. When people of one color are singled out for destruction by another group that people will defend themselves. It’s just plain logical instinct for Europeans to seek safety in large gatherings. How can you blame them?
May God bless you and give you greater understanding..peace
on November 15th, 2008 at 5:05 am
Yes, Duke has a right to free speech, so long as he doesn’t dupe his followers into giving money under false pretenses again via the US postal service(aka MAIL FRAUD). But by that same token, the owners of hotels have every right to refuse service to him if they think it will hurt their business.
I mean, you guys aren’t COMMUNISTS are you?
Heh heh heh….
on November 15th, 2008 at 5:07 am
Oh hate to disappoint anyone here, but most white women are raped by white men, and they are far more likely to be raped not only by whites but by people they know.
on November 15th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Dear Aslan,
Sorry, but according to the DOJ, White women are more likely to be sexually-assaulted by non-Whites than White men (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf):
44.5% of such assaults are by Whites,
33.6% of such assaults are by Blacks,
19.6% of such assaults are by other races,
thus 53.2% of sexual-assaults against White women are by non-Whites.
It’s funny how rape hasn’t been declared a “hate crime”. I guess it would skew the statistics in the “wrong” way.
PS:
And for the record, there are virtually no sexual-assaults of Black women by White men.
on November 15th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Hi GENO,
As I think I’ve made it clear before, I rather that “pro-White” groups wouldn’t parade around in costumes. It’s quite silly.
“The White Supremacists show off their pride through acts of violence and intimidation.”
- I presume that you’d call David Duke a “White Supremacist”, but when has he ever engaged in violence or intimidation?
“’Pro-White’ interests in politics whose agenda is to ‘keep minorities in their place’, has a history of trying to undo equal oportunities for non-White applicants.”
- All I see these days is Whites bending over backwards to please minorities. Do you consider affirmative action as equal opportunity?
“Promotes favoritism based on race and class and creed.”
Oh? Racist Blacks voted for Obama at a level of ~98%. Racist non-Whites voted for Obama five to one over McCain.
“That’s the ‘Pro-White’ interests I recognize, which I strongly oppose …”
- So, you’re anti-White.
on November 15th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Aslan Maskhadov said,
on November 15th, 2008 at 5:05 am
Yes, Duke has a right to free speech, so long as he doesn’t dupe his followers into giving money under false pretenses again via the US postal service(aka MAIL FRAUD). But by that same token, the owners of hotels have every right to refuse service to him if they think it will hurt their business.
I mean, you guys aren’t COMMUNISTS are you?
Heh heh heh….
…………………………………..
Alsan,
In America, a contract is a pretty sacred instrument. The Hotel Signed a contract with David Duke to host this meetings, then due to terrorist threats the county declared a state of emergency giving the Hotel a legal loophole to weasel out of their contract. Normally, a State of Emergency would be something like a Hurricane, an act of War or an extreme act of terrorism like 9/11.
What does is say about our country if we give into terrorists in our own country, and allow those people making terrorist threats to get their way? I believe the it gives these extremist groups the message that “Terrorism Works!”
The ideal under a Constitutional Republic is that we are all Equal under the Law, and I think that we can all agree that had this been a meeting of any other ethnic group other than whites, that this would be a National News Story. This proves media bias, and should show all white people that we are not free in a multicultural America.
on November 15th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Funny how you just noticed that the claim was that blacks raping white women constitutes some kind of terrorism, when in fact the statistics you quoted(from 2005 no less) clearly show that white women are more likely to be raped by a white guy than black. You had to combine to statistics and then say “non-whites”, as though there is some kind of conspiracy.
Of course if you did some research on rape, you would find that rapists are rarely able to remember their victims’ appearance, because rape is not about sexual attraction, but control and humiliation. That is why we constantly hear about obese or elderly women being raped.
But by all means, if you are a white female, feel free to let your guard down the next time you go out alone with a white blind date. Good luck.
on November 15th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
“- I presume that you’d call David Duke a “White Supremacist”, but when has he ever engaged in violence or intimidation?”
Many more violent types draw inspiration or confirmation from Duke’s writings. If someone tells you that your “race” is in mortal peril, don’t you think the logical conclusion is some kind of terrorist action against the states allegedly responsible?
“- All I see these days is Whites bending over backwards to please minorities. Do you consider affirmative action as equal opportunity?”
This is what you WANT to see. If you took the time to look at some real statistics on discrimination, or find out how affirmative action really works, you might learn a thing or two.
“Oh? Racist Blacks voted for Obama at a level of ~98%. Racist non-Whites voted for Obama five to one over McCain.”
How is this “racism”? Blacks generally vote democrat in block anyway- they had no trouble voting for white candidates in mass for decades. What were they supposed to do- NOT vote for Obama just to make it seem like they are not going to vote for him simply because he is black? This is a heads I win, tails you lose situation.
“- So, you’re anti-White.”
Fallaciously assumes that “Pro-White” organizations benefit “whites”, or anybody for that matter.
on November 15th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Why is it that when anyone White tries to protect their own interest, or just try to be proud of their European roots its considered racist? Also, why is it that its okay that we have BET, NAACP, & Full ride college scholarships for the color of your skin (except white).. Thats not Equality. Even when whites become the minority, We will still Not receive benefits like they do now. We will still Be expected to carry around “White Guilt”. Im not a radical, But i do know whites and white culture will be ran ino the ground. White people wont wake up until this happens. Unfortunatly, We as white people have to hit rock bottom together. By the way, Im NOT racist i just want TRUE equality. Im tired of being considered racist for being proud im white.
on November 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Jonathan,
“I’d presume that you call David Duke a “White Supremacist,”
Why not? I see him nothing more, other than the pejorative–”White Supremacist.”
“but when has he engaged in violence or intimidation.”
Well then try studying the history of the Klan and why his association with the Klan contrasts your petty argument. Then go figure….
“Oh? Racist blacks voted for Obama at a level of-98%, racist non-Whites voted for Obama five to one over McCain.”
Read Asian Maskadov`s response, he made a valid point…
89% of American Indians voted for Obama because he’s Bi-racial, a non-Indian and a Democrat, but does that make the Natives “racist”???
What has Palin done for Indian Country?
“So you’re anti-White”
Why?
Is it because I’m for equal opportunity and that makes people “Anti-White”?
Hmmm…..
I don’t know what to think about that puny assertion of yours but I think you may “be on another planet.”
That doesn’t seem to make any rationale sense to dismiss someone as “anti-White” as opposed to being for equality.
on November 15th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Aslan,
“Many more violent types draw inspiration or confirmation from Duke’s writings.”
- If so, then doesn’t logically follow that certain entities (e.g., some of the media, “liberals”, even the SPLC) inspire minorities to engage in violence against Whites? Look at the level of violent interracial crime committed against Whites. We always hear about the poor, oppressed minorities, which is caused by insidious White racism …
“This is what you WANT to see. If you took the time to look at some real statistics on discrimination, or find out how affirmative action really works, you might learn a thing or two.”
- Ah yes, the insidious White racism again. And the poor oppressed Jews … oh, wait, Jews are relatively wealthy. Maybe it’s a function of IQ and not “White racism”?
“How is this ‘racism’? Blacks generally vote democrat in block anyway- … This is a heads I win, tails you lose situation.”
- Whites were accused of being “racist” for voting for McCain, so in the spirit of equality, I can accuse non-Whites of being racist for voting for Obama.
“Fallaciously assumes that ‘Pro-White’ organizations benefit ‘whites’, or anybody for that matter.”
- GENO simply doesn’t want Whites having political power as they may want things that benefit them.
on November 15th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
1) Well over 95% of the main stream media is controlled not by “Americans”, but by (self-labeled) “Jews” in both the USA and Canada.
2) The banking industry, not just in the USA but western nations in general, is totally controlled by “Jews” who also have partial ownership in the mass media conglomerates.
3) Many of these “Uber-rich-Jews” are Israeli citizens (duel) and have done time, not in America’s military, but Israel’s!
4) If say…, a small handful of Arabs, Muslims, Chinese, or any other race of people, with allegiances to a foreign country, controlled what “Jews” control now (congress, judiciary, banking, academia…, the list is very long), the American people would be outraged, but since the “Jewish Lobby” basically (to use Indonesia’s PM’s words) “proxy-control” the USA, nothing is said about it. Meanwhile Americans and Canadians and other western countries where “Jews” hold sway continue to do the killing in the middle east for Israel all based on lies perpetuated by the main stream media. Can you really trust what the MSM says?
5) In Canada, where I am from, people are imprisoned and have their lives ruined, or even attempts made on their lives by Zionist-Extremist Terrorists”, and the politicians protect the criminals and throw the victims in jail!
And all for what?
For merely having an open frank discussion about race and behavior?
All these laws that protect the “minorities” from being “offended” are devised and rammed through by predominantly “Jewish” Lobby groups to primarily protect themselves from being publicly accused of the crimes they commit.
6) In Canada they have set up Tribunals composed of mostly Jews pretending to be whites which have the force of law and can destroy a man’s life! Is this what you want for the USA? Agree or disagree with Duke, don’t you think that nothing is totally evil or totally good? Does everybody not have the right to speak and be heard?
7) Violence at demonstrations in Canada that are against, for example, New World Order Summit Meetings (organized by the Worlds richest Banking Class of criminals) have been proven, in a court of law, to have been perpetrated by police agents!
The police, who are backed by the criminal establishment, are usually the ones behind “violence” in order that the press can use it as an excuse to cancel events that bring attention to the fact that Whites are on the short end of the “equal opportunity” or “affirmative action” stick..
8) FYI, if you check the library of congress records, you will discover that 85% of the merchant ships that brought slaves from Africa to America were owned by Jews. Then the push to have them freed was orchestrated also by Jews (just like Obama’s Cabinet is shaping up to be almost all Jews so far…). So now we have racial strife orchestrated by “Jews” who benefit from the distraction causing chaos, by duping us to kill for Israel in Iraq and next Iran.
9) I hate to burst your liberal bubbles, but unless Americans of good faith and good moral standing, of all races, realize the subterfuge being perpetrated on them at the hands of a “Racial and Economic Class of Israel Firsters with deep pockets”, you will inevitably turn against each other in civil war while the gleeful “International Jew” rubs his grimy, greedy fingers together looking ahead to the money he will make in salvaging the mess!
10) Think about it people…, open you minds…, calm down…, and look to the people who are telling the lies and causing the strife and ask if their motives are as they have stated or whether there is a deeper hidden motive for their lies and misrepresentations just like those of 9-11?
on November 15th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
You anti-whites are arguing over hypotheticals and assumptions. How many of you actually heard what duke said? I heard the whole thing and anyone against it is a fascist and not deserving to have the benefit of our constitution.
on November 15th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Damn, there is so much white whine here I need to rehash an oldie but goodie.
Where to begin? First off, SPLC does not advocate violence against “whites”. Neither does the NAACP, MEChA, etc. Groups like the National Alliance or EURO advocate an “all-white” homeland. Gee, I wonder how they plan to move all the “non-white people out”? HINT: Violence.
Now obviously I was not as privy to every day news about the election, but I don’t remember whites in general being accused of being “racist” simply for voting for McCain. Some whites, when polled, admitted that race was a factor in voting for Hillary or McCain, ergo they could be reasonably accused of racism. Blame it on them for admitting that they won’t vote for a guy, in many cases of their own party, just because he is black.
Now someone else brought up BET. Shut up. There are plenty of “white” television channels. BET was started by a black businessman(who incidentally endorsed Hillary Clinton). Funny when a black man struggles and succeeds, you people see it as some kind of evil conspiracy.
And as for whites not being allowed to have political power? ARE YOU BLIND? Oh yeah, it’s not the kind of political power YOU might want, with your privileges and all. Fact is though, if you can’t succeed in this society as a white guy, you will most likely be on the bottom of the heap in an all white society as well, which might be a good reason to chase some barbituates with vodka.
Here’s what I want you whiners to do. I want you to get your passport, and I want you to talk face to face with some Kurds, Kosovar Serbs, Chechens, or Palestinians about how oppressed you are. Kurds incidentally just got the right to publish things in their own language about ten or so years ago. Has something similar happened to you?
Are there not enough St. Paddy’s day parades? Celtic games? Serbian, Polish, Greek festivals? Are all these not celebrated, nationally recognized expressions of pride by people who are nominally “white”? For some reason this is not enough for you, and you go on whining about how “whites” are not allowed to show “pride”. Showing pride in real ethnicity is one thing- showing pride in a jury-rigged, ever-changing social construct that has been used to uphold oppression and exploitation(including that of those who would later be considered whites, if not even after the fact)- that is what people are opposed to, and no YOU shouldn’t have political power for such a movement.
Besides, knowing the WN movement inside and out, you guys couldn’t run a McDonalds for more than six months.
But back to the main question at hand, I would like you to consider the plight of the ethnic groups I mentioned(mostly “white”), and honestly answer these questions:
1. Have you ever been denied a home-loand because you were white?
2. Have you been told you cannot go to school because you are white?
3. Have you been shot at, detained, or arrested by government forces for being white?
4. Have you been told you can’t publish things in your own native language?
5. Have you been walled off from the economic center of your city?
These are things that REAL oppressed people have dealt with and sometimes still deal with on a daily basis. Meanwhile you get pissed off about MLK day or the fact that the President is black(and quote all the IQ statistics you want, but Obama is definitely smarter than you).
STOP….WHINING!
on November 15th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Not surprisingly the entire story is not told and what do you know, the most important part of th story is left out. The fact that the conference had to be moved because of the threats to the hotel managers family should have probably been mentioned. This conference was a success because it showed the racial hypocrisy and how much freedom of speech has been destroyed in this country. In this country, every race is allowed to show their racial except for white people. I would like to thank all of the lowlifes who gave Dr. Duke so much trouble that weekend because you basically proved the points that he has been making for years by acting the way you did.
on November 16th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Hey, any of you libs on here know anything about the Holomodor, the black Barbary Coast pirates and the white Christians they took as slaves, the thousands of unnamed whites used as slaves and indentured servants during the 17th century in the US, the swimming pool built especially for prisoners at Auschwitz, or the millions of eastern European children and young women sold through the Israel based sex trade every year. Ever wonder why you don’t know anything about this, or why it was never taught in school. Ever wonder why someone or something doesn’t want you to know? Think about it.
on November 16th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Aslan,
“Funny how you just noticed that the claim was that blacks raping white women constitutes some kind of terrorism, …”
- I said “hate crime”, not “terrorism”.
” … when in fact the statistics you quoted(from 2005 no less) clearly show that white women are more likely to be raped by a white guy than black.”
- You said: “but most white women are raped by white men, and they are far more likely to be raped not only by whites but by people they know.” That’s clearly not correct, White women are slightly more likely to be raped by non-Whites.
“You had to combine to statistics and then say “non-whites”, as though there is some kind of conspiracy. ”
- Talk about conspiracies! Various people and organizations always imply that there is a conspiracy by Whites to screw minorities – at least some of them – which is why they are poor. As I previously mentioned, it could more likely be a function of IQ: why are Jews and many Asians doing quite well?
on November 16th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
As usual, none of my arguments are addressed, so I guess I will go on shattering a few more of yours. First off, to all posters, JEWS, are white, and it doesn’t matter that a certain number owned slave ships. WHO bought the slaves? WHO profited from their labor? And I repeat, European Jews are “white”, that is that in modern society, they benefit from white privilege based on appearance. They are less likely to be harassed by police, followed around in a shop, or denied a loan or job- based on their appearance. The fact that they were once discriminated against by certain groups is not far removed from the fact that Irish and Italians were sometimes seen as non-white in certain communities.
Now as for the Muslim slave trade- Slavery in Islamic society could be very brutal as any slave trade, but in many ways it was far better. The status of slave in Islamic society did not stop slaves from becoming high government officials, soldiers, and even sultans. Baybars was a Kypchak Turk sold into slavery in the Ayyubid dynasty- as an adult he ended up becoming leader of Egypt and Syria after successfully defending against Crusaders and commanding at the pivotal defeat of the Mongol army at 1260 in Ain Jalut.
Islamic law on slaves gave them a lot of paths to freedom, and also granted them certain rights(not that they were always enforced of course). In many ways, this form of slavery was not that far removed from from the serf system of Europe which also restricted people to a feudal lord. Another famous slave was Roxelana or Hurrem, a Ukrainian slave girl who became the only legal wife of Ottoman sultan Suliman the Magnificent(by all standards a “white guy”, incidentally). Her influence over the Ottoman empire was particularly significant.
It might also be useful to point out now that your heroes, the Vikings, made a lot of their wealth selling Slavic and German girls to Arab slave traders of the Caliphate. Let me repeat that for you: VIKINGS SOLD EUROPEAN GIRLS AS SLAVES TO THE ARABS. Chew on that for a while.
Next up, sex slavery in Israel. Let me name a few more countries which are rife with trafficking in Eastern European women: Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Albania, Serbia, BiH, Austria, Germany, The Netherlands, Great Britain, Italy, Czech Republic, South Korea, China, Turkey, the USA, and Canada. The sex trade cannot operate without tens of millions of customers of every ethnicity, and the complicity of nearly every Eastern European government.
Israel, by contrast, spawned a rather large and aggressive anti-trafficking organization, that has made some major progress in fighting the trade. By contrast, countries like Germany and the Czech Republic legalized prostitution, thus increasing demand and creating a market for trafficked prostitutes. Feel free to visit websites like that of the Task Force on Human Trafficking of Israel, and then PLEASE tell me the name of a WN organization that has done something, ANYTHING, against women trafficking. Because I can tell you I know of a few WNs, in fact associates of Duke, who do frequent brothels in Russia(we all know how hard it is for WNs to get laid without paying). In fact given his character, it would be stupid and naive(yet totally in character for WNs) to believe that Duke himself would not have taken advantage of Eastern European prostitutes as well.
Bet if I had the time I could catch him on video entering or coming out of a brothel in Russia. And his followers would still probably claim he was set up, and send him money.
So there it is, your arguments left in broken shards yet again. I refer you again to address my previous post before this one, so that you may learn to stop whining.
on November 16th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Alsan,
How did Israel establish a Jewish Homeland, oh yeah they killed a whole bunch of Palestinians and segregated them away from the economic centers of the country.
I have a great idea, why doesn’t Israel become a multicultural paradise, show all of dumb goyim how its done, then maybe we can follow your lead.
Why doesn’t the SPLC protest AIPAC? They are the most violent racist group in the World, because not only do they promote an all Jewish State, but they also promote wars and genocides against their Lebanese, Arab, Egyptian and Persian neighbors, not to mention the Palestinians who land they stole.
As to your questions.
1, I have never been denied a home loan based on my race, but my credit score. Has any Jew ever been denied a loan? How about a black with good credit?
2. Not me personally, but Affirmative Action does discriminate against whites. If Affirmative Action is so great, why not have Affirmative Action policies to insure that Jews are not over represented in fields like the law, medicine, finance, government, and the media?
3. Yes, not in this country, but in Mexico I have been harrassed (asked for bribes) on numerous occations because I am white.
4. Our native language is the television set, and free speech on the issue of sociobiology is very repressed, while the Jay Gould school of BS is actively promoted. So in a way, yes. Further acedemics have been harrassed for not conforming to the standards of imposed political correctness.
5. Who was walled off from the economic center of the city? What city? When? Why?
Whites are real oppressed people, do you not think that white people in Rhodesia have been repressed? What about what is currently going on in South Africa? We understand that this is the direction that America is headed if multiculturalism is allowed to run its natural course. So why should we wait until we our run out of the country that our ancestors founded to appease a minority who arrived in this country after it had already become a highly developed nation with an extensive system of social welfare? Why would we want to sit by and wait for our own genocide, while these policies provide no benefits to those of us who were born here? Why would we want to see our democracy degenerate into a system of identy politics? No one wanted all of these non-whites back in 1965, and the same people do not want them now.
Blacks have not been forced to suffer oppression, but chose to live under the whiteman’s rules instead of going to Liberia. Our House, our rules.
on November 17th, 2008 at 1:58 am
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Aslan Maskhadov said,
on November 15th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Funny how you just noticed that the claim was that blacks raping white women constitutes some kind of terrorism, when in fact the statistics you quoted(from 2005 no less) clearly show that white women are more likely to be raped by a white guy than black. You had to combine to statistics and then say “non-whites”, as though there is some kind of conspiracy.
UNFORTUNATELY YOU MISS THE POINT. IF 40,000 BLACK WOMEN WERE RAPED EACH YEAR BY WHITE MEN, IT BOGGLES THE MIND TO THINK HOW QUICKLY THOSE WHITE MEN WOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR HATE CRIMES. IT STRAINS THE IMAGINATION TO THINK ABOUT THE SCREAMS AND THE PROTESTS THAT WOULD BE ORGANIZED BY AL SHARPTON AND JESSE JACKSON IN ORDER TO COMBAT THE RACIST WHITE RAPISTS. BUT WHEN THE REVERSE IS TRUE – WHEN IT’S BLACK MEN RAPING WHITE WOMEN, NARY A PEEP IS HEARD. IN FACT, NOT ONLY ARE WE NOT TO BE BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT BLACK ON WHITE RAPE ISN’T PROSECUTED AS A HATE CRIME, WE ARE NOT EVEN TO *MENTION* THE DISCREPANCY IN THESE STATISTICS AT ALL.
Of course if you did some research on rape, you would find that rapists are rarely able to remember their victims’ appearance, because rape is not about sexual attraction, but control and humiliation. That is why we constantly hear about obese or elderly women being raped.
WHAT A CROCK OF LIES. THEY CAN’T REMEMBER THEIR VICTIMS APPEARANCE??? NOW I WONDER WHY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE NEAR A COLLEGE IN CHICAGO, THE YOUNG BLACK MEN SOMEHOW GET “LOST”, AND WANDER FAR FROM THEIR HOMES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, AND “ACCIDENTALLY” FIND THEMSELVES NEAR A NORTH SIDE COLLEGE, WHERE THEY JUST *HAPPEN* TO ALWAYS RAPE YOUNG WHITE COLLEGE GIRLS. YOU MAKE UP WHATEVER KIND OF STORY YOU WANT. THIS HAPPENS FAR TOO OFTEN FOR ME TO BUY YOUR BULLCRAP. BLACK MEN ARE *TRAVELING* AWAY FROM THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES AND SEEKING OUT WHITE WOMEN TO RAPE. THERE IS NO DENYING THIS FACT. IF, AS YOU SAY, THE APPEARANCE OF THEIR VICTIMS DID NOT MATTER, THEN WHY LEAVE THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD SEEKING OUT VICTIMS OF ANOTHER SKIN COLOR?
But by all means, if you are a white female, feel free to let your guard down the next time you go out alone with a white blind date. Good luck.
NO ONE SAID THAT WHITES DON’T RAPE WHITES OR BLACKS DON’T RAPE BLACKS. THAT’S TO BE EXPECTED, SINCE MOST WHITES LIVE AROUND OTHER WHITES AND MOST BLACKS LIVE AROUND OTHER BLACKS. THAT REALLY HAS NO BEARING ON THE FACT THAT WHITE MEN ARE *NOT* RAPING BLACK WOMEN, WHILE BLACK MEN ARE RAPING 40,000 WHITE WOMEN EACH YEAR. THAT’S ABOUT 110 WHITE WOMEN PER DAY.
IF YOU THINK WHITE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHUT UP AND PRETEND THIS ISN’T HAPPENING, YOU’VE GOT ANOTHER THINK COMING. THERE IS NO REASON ON EARTH WE CANNOT STAND UP AND EXPRESS OUR OUTRAGE OVER THINGS LIKE THIS THE SAME WAY BLACKS WOULD BE STANDING UP IF IT WERE THE REVERSE.
IN THE END, YOU PEOPLE DON’T REALLY WANT EQUAL RIGHTS. YOU WANT SPECIAL RIGHTS FOR SOME GROUPS, AND VIRTUALLY NO RIGHTS FOR OTHERS.
on November 17th, 2008 at 10:43 am
She who calls herself “Savannah”.
Do you know how to cite your source, rather than just post doctored up blather?
According to the FBI`s data, there were 7,330 known offenders and 7,722 bias-motivated incidents reported in 2006.
By Race:
An analysis of available race data for the 7,330 known hate crime offenders revealed that:
*58.6% were White Offenders
*20.6% were Black Offenders
*5.7% were Offenders made up of individuals of various races
*1.1% were Asian/Pacific Islanders
*1.0% were American Indian/Alaskian Native Offenders
(Based on Table 9)
Racial Bias:
Among the single bias motivated hate crime incidents in 2006. There were 5,020 victims of a racially motivated hate crime.
*66.4% were victims of an offender`s anti-Black bias
*21.0% were victims of an offender`s anti-White bias
*4.8% were victims of an offender`s anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias
*1.5% were victims of an offender`s anti-American Indian/Alaskian Native bias
(Based on Table 1)
Savannah try doing your own research rather than cite the same old rubbish Jonathan is known for. Quit being so gullible and easily influenced by false claims.
“IF 40,000 BLACK WOMEN WERE RAPED EACH YEAR BY WHITE MEN. IT BOGGLES THE MIND TO THINK HOW QUICKLY THOSE MEN WILL BE PROSECUTED FOR HATE CRIME.”
Well to begin with, your mind is a tiny thimble easily bobbled. When “White Men” commits rapes on a non-White women, they tend to spew racial epithets during the process. This leads to a bias motivated hate crime.
“WE ARE NOT EVEN TO *MENTION* THE DISCREPENCY IN THESE STATISTICS AT ALL.[sic]”
What “statistics”? You made no effort to post any for all to review whosever. In other words none of the racial “discrepencies” are even *mention* for every specific hate crime reported.
“WHAT A CROCK OF LIES.”
You’re calling the FBI and the DOJ liers???
“IF YOU THINK WHITE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHUT UP AND PRETEND THIS ISN’T HAPPENING.”
I don’t think White people are silenced about it. In fact, I have known several White women myself and they all claimed that another White fellow raped them because they knew them before, either they were an ex, or date or simply a neighbor. Your false assumptions are way off the wall and I think you need to see your shrink since you seemed to be screaming and yelling on here incohorently. With that “40,000″ a year stats(not sure where you got that number) is frivolous and discredited.
on November 17th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
GENO,
You said:
“Savannah try doing your own research rather than cite the same old rubbish Jonathan is known for. Quit being so gullible and easily influenced by false claims.”
- “… is know for.” Known by whom!? I’m careful about statistics I post. If you read my previous post, you’d notice that I referenced the DOJ’s “National Crime Victimization Survey” (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf).
Simple math, here’s how you arrive at (approx.) 40,000 White women raped by Blacks per year:
Go to table 42. There were 111,490 Whites rapes in that year. 111,490 * 0.336 (33.6%) = 37,460. Thus in 2005 37,460 Whites were raped/sexually-assaulted by Blacks.
Do you agree with my calculation? If not,
“You’re calling the FBI and the DOJ liers??”
“With that “40,000? a year stats(not sure where you got that number) is frivolous and discredited.”
- So you admit that you have no idea where she got that value, you give no references to disprove it, but then you declare it to be “frivolous and discredited”. GENO, you can do better that that.
on November 17th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Oh Johnny B, I have some bad news for you- never use WN canned answers. It is incorrect to assume that just because I find your ideology to be BS, I must therefore be pro-Israel. I am staunchly anti-Zionist and endorse a one-state solution that provides right of return to Palestinians and full equality under the law for Jewish and Arab residents of Palestine. I might also add however, that Israel, even speaking just about the Jewish community, is multi-racial and multi-cultural, and they do have problems with racism there.
“1, I have never been denied a home loan based on my race, but my credit score. Has any Jew ever been denied a loan? How about a black with good credit?”
Jews are white, ergo they get relatively fair treatment, that is based on credit score. Statistical studies show that blacks are often denied loans, even despite a higher income than the white test applicant, and when they get the loan they are more likely to be “steered” towards worse interest rates and sub-prime rates.
“2. Not me personally, but Affirmative Action does discriminate against whites.”
Yeah but nobody ever seems to be able to cite an actual case. Incidentally, in reference to college admissions, there are many white applicants that score less than other white applicants, yet get in by a variety of other criteria, getting extra points for being born in certain areas, having a parent who was an alumnus, etc.
” If Affirmative Action is so great, why not have Affirmative Action policies to insure that Jews are not over represented in fields like the law, medicine, finance, government, and the media?”
First of, Jews are white, and thus do not face discrimination in these fields. Second, they are not overrepresented in all of those fields, nor do they work collectively as some kind of hive mind. Also, Jews are underrepresented in some important powerful positions, such as CEOs in general(that is in all industries).
“3. Yes, not in this country, but in Mexico I have been harrassed (asked for bribes) on numerous occations because I am white.”
You were harassed IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY. Not because you were white, but because you were a foreigner. I guarantee you that you would be hit up for bribes in Russia, or several other European countries which are lily white. You would also face harassment in many countries simply for being American.
“4. Our native language is the television set, and free speech on the issue of sociobiology is very repressed, while the Jay Gould school of BS is actively promoted. So in a way, yes. Further acedemics have been harrassed for not conforming to the standards of imposed political correctness.”
It is not “suppressed”, it is simply rejected because has largely been debunked, and what has not been debunked is unsubstantiated. Flat earth theories are similarly suppressed.
“5. Who was walled off from the economic center of the city? What city? When? Why?”
Hello, Palestinians? WALL?
“Whites are real oppressed people, do you not think that white people in Rhodesia have been repressed?”
You claim “whites” are the real oppressed people, and then the best you can cite is Rhodesia and South Africa? Sure. Are you from Rhodesia? Are you from South Africa? We are talking about white folks in the US of A.
“Why would we want to sit by and wait for our own genocide, while these policies provide no benefits to those of us who were born here?”
You mean white people aren’t allowed to claim what little welfare benefits America has? I must have missed this.
” Why would we want to see our democracy degenerate into a system of identy politics? No one wanted all of these non-whites back in 1965, and the same people do not want them now.”
Actually a LOT of people wanted those immigrants, namely business owners who wanted cheap labor. Furthermore, the “white” immigrants of the 19th century were not really considered any better. In fact if you bother to check, you would find out that the laws which the 1965 Immigration act reversed also excluded large amounts of “whites”, mostly southern and eastern Europeans from immigrating to the US.
“Blacks have not been forced to suffer oppression, but chose to live under the whiteman’s rules instead of going to Liberia. Our House, our rules.”
Well the folks in “your house” didn’t want to do their own work, so they bought the slaves. And the idea that freed slaves after the Civil War could just hoist anchor and sail to Liberia is simply ludicrous. These people had nowhere to go.
on November 18th, 2008 at 1:05 am
Duke will do anything to get the TV cameras rolling on him again or to get his name in the paper for anything besides legal troubles. I am sure that he was happy to see people protesting his conference because he can slightly relive his days in the national spotlight. To cause a big stir when Duke comes to down benifits no one but Duke.
He sees the Obama election as an opportunity for a comeback. That is the reason he is in America again.
on November 18th, 2008 at 8:45 am
“He sees the Obama election as an opportunity for a comeback. That is the reason he is in America again.”
Cameras aren’t enough for him- it’s the donations he’s after. Otherwise he’s going to have to get a real job, and that phony Phd he has is just good enough to make him chief sandwich engineer at Subway. The other reason he’s in America again is because the Russians have been starting to see through his BS. Maybe it has something to do with his associates visiting brothels and hunting for mail order brides. Even Russian nationalists have a shred of dignity.
on November 18th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Jonathan,
Obviously must you come to the defense of your fellow White Supremacists who cannot defend themselves?
“If you read my previous post,”
I paid no heed to your previous post since it was orginally addressed to Asian Maskadov. I merely looked into “Savannah`s” post to see if she cared to cite her sources of info, and she had not posted none. So I assumed she played copycat and used your distorted words as her own.
“So you admit it you had no idea where she got that value, you gave no referrence to disapprove it.”
Like I said before, her dimwittery screams cited no “referrences” other than the babbles you spewed before your previous posts. And I posted the true numbers according to the FBI, you idiot, in order to correct her asinine inaccuracies.
‘I am careful about the statistics I post.”
The so-called “statistics” you carelessly posted was only a *survey*. For survey`s are not generally seen as stats but rather opinions based on a popular notion amongst Whites who partaken in that survey. But it has proven the contrary according to the FBI`s legitimate stats that was conducted on analysistic research instead of a survey you cited above. Go back and see the statistics I posted by the FBI.
“Do you agree with my caculation?”
Based on a fallacious survey of an unpopular opinion???
No I do not.
Then you go on to prattle my quote in an effort to distort the FBI`s true stats. Well, your tricks doesn’t seemed to work does it?
on November 18th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
GENO,
“Obviously must you come to the defense of your fellow White Supremacists who cannot defend themselves? ”
- Just as you pointed to Aslan as an example of someone who is logical. Are you saying that you recognize that you aren’t as logical as Aslan?
“Like I said before, her dimwittery screams cited no ‘referrences’ other than the babbles you spewed before your previous posts.”
- She should have posted reference and not used all caps.
“And I posted the true numbers according to the FBI, you idiot, in order to correct her asinine inaccuracies.”
- No need to stoop to the indignity of name-calling. The rape and hate crime statistics you posted are two different crime categories, that’s why you weren’t “correcting” what she said.
“The so-called “statistics” you carelessly posted was only a *survey*. For survey`s are not generally seen as stats but rather opinions based on a popular notion amongst Whites who partaken in that survey.”
- My gosh, GENO! That DOJ report is titled “Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005 Statistical Tables”. You dismiss it as not “statistics” and accuse the Whites of lying.
“Based on a fallacious survey of an unpopular opinion???”
- Unpopular opinion!? So you’re saying that parts of the results of the DOJ’s report are politically incorrect and thus are invalid?
GENO, I think you need to ask Aslan for a bit of help!
on November 18th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Aslan.
Just to address a few of your points, here…
Jews are not whites. Jews do not consider themselves whites, they have always maintained a separate ethnic identity in every country that they have ever lived in the last 2,000, they are highly ethnocentric, and actively practice nepotism by promoting members of their ingroup and exampling group cohesion. For the last 100 years, Jews have been actively trying to subvert Western Civilization, and seem to have a naturally subversive mindset.
The Jewish Religion teaches that the Jews are “God’s Chosen People” and being Jewish as you know is a birth right, as you inherit your membership in the Jewish Faith through your mother, and our Hebrew Tribe through your father. The Story of “Jacob and Esau” clearly illustrates that it is a tenant of Jewish faith that non-Jews are animals. Your people are the supremacists, not us.
I bring these points up, because many people have trouble distinguishing your kind, from Europeans, and people like you continually try to explain the usury of the Jew as a sin of the “White” man. When in fact, your people are not white, you have never considered yourselves white or a part of Western Civilizations, but rather saw yourselves supreme beings above all other Creation, pretending that we are part of god’s gift to the Jewish faith like all other animals of the Earth to do with as you please.
As you correctly point out that some people did want all of this 3rd World Immigration, and those people were the Business Class, which have never made up a majority of the people. They imported all these people, because they know numbers and ledger books. They know that the economy requires perpetual growth, exponential growth. In their minds, us common folk are all the same, we can all dig ditches, we can all drive trucks, we can all go shopping and consume the crap that the big businesses make, making some very very wealthy. What they do not understand is that culture is not determined by economics, and that wealth does not breed a happy and contented population. In theory, our government is supposed to be for the people and for big business when and only when the needs of big business and the needs the people meet.
Finally, as you well know, only the rich could afford to buy slaves, and most of the slave traders were Jews. If I remember correctly about 1% of the population owned about 90% of the slaves. Obviously, any system where one race rules over another is abhorrent, but in a democratic multicultural government that is exactly what is happening to everyone. Everyone should have the right to their own Nation, and a Government that rules in their National interests, like the ultimate advocate for the people, which is the fundamental problem with multiculturalism in that it forces people to vote for their perceived ethnic interest in an empire, rather than what is right for the Nation.
With the Racial homogeneity of this nation now destroyed, whites must organize just as every other ethnic group has and fight for our perceived ethnic interests. This is not the way that I wanted it, and it is certainly not the America that the founders envisioned for America, but this is the America that you multiculturalists and big business interests have created for the sake of greed, in what was once the greatest Nation in the World.
Currently, we are not represented at all, as was evidenced by this last election. We had one of your big business flunkies, John McCain, to represent the supposedly conservative side, who was all about fighting aggressive wars for Global Domination, while allowing massive displacement of native born Americans here, and Obama who is not a member the majority nation, attended an ethnocentric church, and like McCain wants massive immigration to displace the native born majority.
Empires always fail, that is their nature, and our empire will crumble too, but unlike other empires of the past this is the first empire that I know of that actively sought to make itself an empire from within while destroying the nation that founded it. Your Great Jewish Dream of vengeance for the destruction of Jerusalem is about to be realized, your people with the cooperation of treasonous whites, and armies of brainwashed morons are about to achieve your ultimate dream, the Destruction of Western Civilization. I sincerely hope that you like the results.
on November 19th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Jonthan,
“Are you saying that you recognize that you aren`t as logical as Asian?”
The only thing that I don’t “recognize” is your illogical fallacies which is nothing compared to Asian`s, mine or anyone with rationale thoughts who agrees that Whites/Ayans commit more Hate Crimes than any other percieved minority group. Unlike you, I don’t entertain the thoughts of playing with words. And I guess you can say that is what I am “saying”…
“the rape and hate crime statistics you posted are two different crime catogories.”
Hate Crimes are relevant to SPLC`s interests since it pertains to a racially bias crime motivated by the hatred of one`s race. You merely posted Rape statistics that are deemed exaggerated where the numbers have been refuted. Since rape crimes are isolated incidents, you should be directing your rage at the Law Enforcement Agencies rather than at the SPLC. SPLC focuses on hate crimes, rapes are not regarded as a “hate crime” but instead they are called sex crimes according to the rule of law.
“So you’re saying that parts of results of the DOJ`s report are politically incorrect and thus invalid?”
Did you know that many criminalogists and law professors have questioned that “report” you cited above? There is another indpendent report to see if the DOJ`s rape survey you always seemed to be quoting from, was indeed inaccurate, that report you cited was proven to be biased and false. I’m not saying that Blacks don’t rape White women, I’m merely pointing out that the numbers mentioned was questionable. However, the vast majoirity of women are raped/sexually assulted by someone they know. Are you saying that a lot of White women are race mixers?
on November 19th, 2008 at 11:22 am
“Jews are not whites. Jews do not consider themselves whites,”
Do you mind telling me when you were elected to speak for Jews worldwide?
” they have always maintained a separate ethnic identity in every country that they have ever lived in the last 2,000,”
This is hilarious. You might want to explain then why Jewish appearance can range anywhere from Nordic to black African. While they have preserved their religion in one form or another, Jews have assimilated to a very large degree.
All of that is still irrelevant because when we speak about white as in “white” privilege, it is based on appearance, and American Jews have it.
” they are highly ethnocentric, and actively practice nepotism by promoting members of their ingroup and exampling group cohesion. ”
And other groups do not do this as well? And can you provide some proof of this?
I suggest you take some time to read about the history of Jews in Arabia during the time of Mohammed. Totally destroys the Jews always helping each other claim.
“For the last 100 years, Jews have been actively trying to subvert Western Civilization, and seem to have a naturally subversive mindset.”
Laughable. And are you sure it is only 100 years? Why have they been so successful at this? Perhaps Western Civilization is the weakest. For example, Islamic society really never persecuted Jews, yet somehow didn’t get subverted. “Western civilization” frequently persecuted them and somehow got subverted quite easily according to you.
“The Jewish Religion teaches that the Jews are “God’s Chosen People” and being Jewish as you know is a birth right, as you inherit your membership in the Jewish Faith through your mother, and our Hebrew Tribe through your father. ”
That is in the religion. What about non-religious “Jews”? What about different sects of Judaism which have stricter or looser regulations on that?
“The Story of “Jacob and Esau” clearly illustrates that it is a tenant of Jewish faith that non-Jews are animals. Your people are the supremacists, not us.”
This is in a religious text, and has no bearing on reality. Plus: I’M NOT JEWISH. Are you even reading my posts?
“I bring these points up, because many people have trouble distinguishing your kind, from Europeans, and people like you continually”
If Jews are ethnically separate, how is it so hard to distinguish them from Europeans? And WHAT DO YOU MEAN “MY KIND”? I’m not Jewish.
” try to explain the usury of the Jew as a sin of the “White” man.”
Jews did not invent usury, and usury, while it may not be a “sin” to some people, is parasitical regardless of who practices it.
” When in fact, your people are not white, you have never considered yourselves white or a part of Western Civilizations, but rather saw yourselves supreme beings above all other Creation, pretending that we are part of god’s gift to the Jewish faith like all other animals of the Earth to do with as you please.”
Again I must point out: I AM NOT JEWISH. Second, you do not speak for Jewish people.
“As you correctly point out that some people did want all of this 3rd World Immigration, and those people were the Business Class, which have never made up a majority of the people.”
Now we’re starting to make a little progress. I have a book to recommend to you…
” They imported all these people, because they know numbers and ledger books. They know that the economy requires perpetual growth, exponential growth. In their minds, us common folk are all the same, we can all dig ditches, we can all drive trucks, we can all go shopping and consume the crap that the big businesses make, making some very very wealthy. What they do not understand is that culture is not determined by economics, and that wealth does not breed a happy and contented population. In theory, our government is supposed to be for the people and for big business when and only when the needs of big business and the needs the people meet.”
Aside from your slow awakening to the issue of class, economics DOES determine culture to a certain point. The ruling ideas of a given time tend to be the ideas favored by the ruling class. Also the actions of a nation, such as imperialism, influence culture and language. The Ottoman Empire is a good example, because Turks originally were a steppe-dwelling nomadic people. By the time of the beginning of the Ottoman state, they had absorbed many cultural influences and became a settled people.
“Finally, as you well know, only the rich could afford to buy slaves, and most of the slave traders were Jews. If I remember correctly about 1% of the population owned about 90% of the slaves.”
Even if we assume your “most slave traders” statement is true, that ignores the fact that most of the buyers were definitely white protestant.
” Obviously, any system where one race rules over another is abhorrent, but in a democratic multicultural government that is exactly what is happening to everyone. ”
No, it is one class ruling over the majority, regardless of race.
“Everyone should have the right to their own Nation, and a Government that rules in their National interests, like the ultimate advocate for the people, which is the fundamental problem with multiculturalism in that it forces people to vote for their perceived ethnic interest in an empire, rather than what is right for the Nation.”
Baby steps to enlightenment.
“With the Racial homogeneity of this nation now destroyed, whites must organize just as every other ethnic group has and fight for our perceived ethnic interests. This is not the way that I wanted it, and it is certainly not the America that the founders envisioned for America, but this is the America that you multiculturalists and big business interests have created for the sake of greed, in what was once the greatest Nation in the World.”
Whites don’t have ethnic interest, because the culture of American whites is not signifnicantly different from other American groups. And don’t even start with the black hip-hop culture thing because the fact is that record company execs are mostly all white(yes, with some Jews as well), AND for many years now, 80% of hip-hop consumers have been white middle-class youth.
” while allowing massive displacement of native born Americans here,”
Who is displacing white Americans? Anyone knocking down your houses like in the West Bank?
“Empires always fail, that is their nature, and our empire will crumble too, but unlike other empires of the past this is the first empire that I know of that actively sought to make itself an empire from within while destroying the nation that founded it.”
That depends on your ability to determine what constitutes “destroying” the empire. The goals of the ruling class in America are toward preservation of that empire. The problem is they simply cannot win anymore. In hindsight, some would say the move of the Russian, Ottoman, and Austro-Hungarian empires was a big mistake, since all these empires were crushed as a result. But at the time there was little choice. When the map is full, empires resort to war to expand and preserve their power.
” Your Great Jewish Dream of vengeance for the destruction of Jerusalem is about to be realized, your people with the cooperation of treasonous whites,”
My Great Dream is for you to finally realize that I AM NOT JEWISH. And why is it so easy for those Jews to find “treasonous” whites? Maybe because society is based on class and profit is profit?
” and armies of brainwashed morons are about to achieve your ultimate dream, the Destruction of Western Civilization. I sincerely hope that you like the results.”
You call those people brainwashed morons and yet here you are still giving canned WN answers, that you probably never ran by objective sources, plus you seem insistant that I must be Jewish. Here’s a hint: Most “white” people disagree with your views. They do not need to be Jewish to do so.
on November 19th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
JohnnyB,
F.Y.I., try reading Asian Maskadov`s post before addressing him. The guy isn’t “Jew” for Criss sakes. He’s a Muslim.
LOL!
And you called the Jews “his people”…ha.
on November 20th, 2008 at 10:33 am
GENO,
I think we are running around in circles here. You dismiss the “Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005 Statistical Tables” and claim that it has been “refuted”:
“You merely posted Rape statistics that are deemed exaggerated where the numbers have been refuted.”
and
“Did you know that many criminalogists and law professors have questioned that “report” you cited above?”
Questioning is not the same as refuting. You have show no sources disproving the DOJ’s report; hate crime figures don’t do it.
on November 21st, 2008 at 3:03 am
Benjamin,
Is this back enough for ya:
“Our clear goal must be the advancement of the white race and separation of the white and black races. This goal must include freeing of the American media and government from subservient Jewish interests.”
“What we really want to do is to be left alone. We don’t want Negroes around. We don’t need Negroes around. We’re not asking you know, we don’t want to have them, you know, for our culture. We simply want our own country and our own society. That’s in no way exploitive at all. We want our own society, our own nation….”
“[A] black…gets a job with a white-owned company. He is the only black at the firm. He works hard, but he’s fighting a losing battle against his genes.”
“White people don’t need a law against rape, but if you fill this room up with your normal black bucks, you would, because n*ggers are basically primitive animals.”
“These Jews who run things, who are producing this mental illness teenage suicide…all these Jewish sicknesses…that’s nothing new. The Talmud’s full of things like sex with boys and girls.”
“It’s really the Jew Marxists who see the n*gger as their instrument, as their bullets, by which to destroy our society.”
All the above are the words of
David Duke
Ummm sounds pretty hateful to me. Why can’t you be proud of your whiteness while not being violent, demeaning and segragated? “our nation”, he says???? America was occupied by it’s own indigenous people first…they were not ayran!!
If you look at his website there are links to websites like stormfront forum. This website promotes violence onto non whites. So David Duke may be “classy” ( I kid) enough not to throw the N-word around while being watched by the television media ( though he says it in articles, but how many people will seek this information out) or may not overtly call to violence on his web site..DON’T BE FOOLED!!!! His whole gig is to look like a marytr and a protector of the white race when he is counting on the less educated to do his dirty illegal work. David Duke sucks but he is no dummy (he is a PhD). He is the puppet master. He cant throw around the N-word all day if he wants to stand a chance of working his plan from within the system (he was elected to the Louisiana State Legislature in 1989). He is very aware of his image and is articulate…read his essays.
His language is seperatist but not hostile to the non educated, poor, disgruntled white worker. This person feels cared for and understood when they listen to Duke. He’s got their back. WRONG…DUKE HAS AN AGENDA! Do you think Hitler was out there doing the dirty work…nah he was letting others do it for him.
David Duke=Hitler…same thing!!!!
Ben…do your homework.
on November 21st, 2008 at 3:28 am
Johnathan,
Whites created the need for affermative action. If we all had open doors, until we shut them due to lack of education or qualification thats ok..no matter your race. Sadly on seeing the color of your skin blacks, women, jews etc…were denied. Laws originate from a need.
One very accepted definition of racism:
“racism is race prejudice backed with institutional power”
Therefore black racism is nonexistant in 95% of situations.
Blacks or any “minority” race can prejudge based on race but it is not racism from a sociological view.
Racism is deeper than not liking someone because of race…it is the destruction of their identity,economic survival and family structure.
BTW…white slave owners raped may of black slaves:
…One of the interesting things about Mary Boykin Chestnut’s resentment over barely concealed slaveowner dalliances with slaves is that it was directed at the wrongs she saw committed against white women, who were made to suffer in silence their husbands’ infidelity.
The lingering view of slave plantations as personal harems for their owners is a relic of antebellum abolitionist rhetoric, written by upper-class New Englanders with little practical experience in the South or with blacks. Built into it is the racist assumption that black women were more promiscuous and lascivious than white women, were less inclined to resist advances, and that laboring folk of any sort — Irish peasants included — were carnal by nature.
Nobody denies that it happened. But even if all the reports are true — and many are mere hearsay — of slaveowners having mistresses in the quarters or beloved mulatto children around the house, they amount to a few hundred in a population of millions. The question remains, were these cases the tip of an iceberg, or rare events that were much gossiped about?
Some people seem to assume that, just because the law allowed owners to ravish slave girls, it had to be going on all over the place. This ignores the other forces (social, moral, religious, economic) that were involved. For instance, the seduction of the wife or daughter of a slave would undermine the plantation’s discipline, which the planters worked hard to maintain. It would also undermine the planter’s reputation both in the slave quarters, in his own home, and in the whole white community…
taken from MULATTOES. etymology.com
One of the interesting things about Mary Boykin
How do you think there are blacks walking around with green eyes, and pale skin???
White slave masters raped black slaves.
Again, get educated about history!!!
on November 21st, 2008 at 3:49 am
Tide,
Soooo blind!
Whites are the most victimized
race in our culture???? Is that what I saw??? Give me some concrete evidence of that…and not from the David Duke website.
Hahaha because Dukes nazi meeting got the boot?
Whites like that victimize themselves with their own hate and stupidity. Bravo to the hotel for standing up for it’s morals. See not all whites are into that crap. Thats why you can’t say white pride without it insuing anger and fear. If you are white and proud then just relax, make white babies, go to work, learn your European roots, don’t get a tan, respect others and shut up. Mind your buisness. Block BET and telemundo from your TV. No need for the killings and threats. Move to Europe or an all white neighborhood…I don’t care if you don’t like my skin… don’t injure others. You don’t even have to have non whites into your home. Just be respectful when you see non whites by not speaking to us. Most whites don’t know how privilaged that they are…that alone is a privilage. SPLC is not going to promote a cry baby fest for ignorance.
You have never been denied anything because you are white…maybe because you are ignorant but I assure you that it’s not because of your race.
on December 18th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
People who deny that David Duke advocates violence against those whom he believes are inferior to him and “European whites” make me want to go take a shower. I don’t need white trash to “protect” me. The creep makes my skin crawl.
Can’t Duke find another woman to keep him up and/or shut him up?
on December 19th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Moutaingirl,
Its doubtful that Duke will find another decent woman since he isn’t as attractive as women find him to be, even after his reconstructive facial surgeries just like Micheal Jackson`s, except that Duke`s nose isn’t missing. So instead he uses the money he collects from his fellow White Supremacists to pay for the exploitation of Russian Brides and other immoral acts.
on June 20th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
The SPLC causes genocide against white people daily. I fight the SPLC like Jesus fights the Devil. The SPLC is a hate group. They are a greater enemy to white mankind and our human right to be free than all the Hitlers who have ever lived put together. The SPLC in Russia were called Bolsheviks and they murdered constantly and killed over 66 million Russians. Does the Holcocosto museum mention this genocide? I doubt it seriously. What I do to oppose the SPLC I do it proudly for my Lord.