Comments on: Trial Day 3: Teen Describes Klan Beating in Final Day of Testimony http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Thu, 23 May 2013 17:48:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Marla Hill http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-61613 Marla Hill Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:24:09 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-61613 This is one example of why I think it is so important to support hate crimes legislation and, I would go further, to support anti-hate speech legislation. A beating during a robbery, as awful as it is, is still an incident isolated to those involved. A hate crime beating, however, victimizes anyone who is left to fear that they may be next. As to hate speech, when people preach hate to the young, the criminal, or the generally ignorant, they are, in effect, loading a gun and handing it to someone. That should be a crime. This is one example of why I think it is so important to support hate crimes legislation and, I would go further, to support anti-hate speech legislation. A beating during a robbery, as awful as it is, is still an incident isolated to those involved. A hate crime beating, however, victimizes anyone who is left to fear that they may be next.

As to hate speech, when people preach hate to the young, the criminal, or the generally ignorant, they are, in effect, loading a gun and handing it to someone. That should be a crime.

]]> By: LEATRICE http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-60446 LEATRICE Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:29:55 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-60446 Thank you SPLC and I pray for you and Gruver. Gruver please put your Trust and Faith in God he will restore what was taken from you. God Bless You! Thank you SPLC and I pray for you and Gruver. Gruver please put your Trust and Faith in God he will restore what was taken from you. God Bless You!

]]> By: RWS http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-59713 RWS Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:04:23 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-59713 The SPLC deserves much credit for its dedicated work over many years. But semi-literate writing -- "Gruver’s injuries, which included a busted jaw" -- detract from the power of its reporting. The SPLC deserves much credit for its dedicated work over many years. But semi-literate writing — “Gruver’s injuries, which included a busted jaw” — detract from the power of its reporting.

]]> By: Kyle Baisley Holmes http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-59498 Kyle Baisley Holmes Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:19:05 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-59498 Sooner than later whites will be a huge minority in America, I pray they treat me, as a white man, better than we have treated them. Sooner than later whites will be a huge minority in America, I pray they treat me, as a white man, better than we have treated them.

]]> By: Barbara Clark http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-59467 Barbara Clark Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:06:35 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-59467 It is heartening to read of your victory -- congratulations! But is there help for Jordan Gruver now, to enable him to get his life back? It is heartening to read of your victory — congratulations! But is there help for Jordan Gruver now, to enable him to get his life back?

]]> By: Annette http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-59352 Annette Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:11:10 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-59352 Congratulation! on your winning this case. Hopefully this along with other winning cases will soon send the message that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated in the 21st Century. It appears that there are still people in this would who just don't understand that this is The United States of America and the era of beating and killing people because of the color of their skin is long gone. May God continue to bless you and your work! Annette Congratulation! on your winning this case. Hopefully this along with other winning cases will soon send the message that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated in the 21st Century.
It appears that there are still people in this would who just don’t understand that this is The United States of America and the era of beating and killing people because of the color of their skin is long gone.
May God continue to bless you and your work!
Annette

]]> By: Loretta http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-59085 Loretta Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:22:37 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-59085 I will pray for this young man to get back in church and trust in people again. Thank goodness everyone who is white does not feel the way these people who are so full of hate do. It is quite emotional to think of what this young man has had to endure. God loves everyone because he created all of us but he did not create the hate these people have in their hearts. I am so happy for the verdict and hope this closes down this group of hate. I will pray for this young man to get back in church and trust in people again. Thank goodness everyone who is white does not feel the way these people who are so full of hate do. It is quite emotional to think of what this young man has had to endure. God loves everyone because he created all of us but he did not create the hate these people have in their hearts. I am so happy for the verdict and hope this closes down this group of hate.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-58944 Kathy Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:49:33 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-58944 Mr. Dees- I have been following the events leading up to this trial with great interest. I was born and raised in Kentucky, but was unaware of the choke hold the Klan's had on my home state. I am glad that the SPLC exists, and is brave enough to take on these American terrorists. Congratulations on your victory! God bless you. Mr. Dees-

I have been following the events leading up to this trial with great interest.

I was born and raised in Kentucky, but was unaware of the choke hold the Klan’s had on my home state. I am glad that the SPLC exists, and is brave enough to take on these American terrorists.

Congratulations on your victory! God bless you.

]]> By: Mary-Lee http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-58874 Mary-Lee Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:34:44 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-58874 Kyle Stewart said, ... but the non-white population ain’t going nowhere. They are here to fight. Mr. Stewart, the white population joins you in repudiating this kind of behavior. We simply won't tolerate it! Kyle Stewart said,
… but the non-white population ain’t going nowhere. They are here to fight.

Mr. Stewart, the white population joins you in repudiating this kind of behavior. We simply won’t tolerate it!

]]> By: Alonzo http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-58851 Alonzo Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:42:52 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-58851 I wish I were this young man. I would have not went to the cops. I would be serving 25 to life. I wish I were this young man. I would have not went to the cops. I would be serving 25 to life.

]]> By: Joseph Koudelka http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-58402 Joseph Koudelka Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:27:08 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-58402 Congratulations! I have been following your work for years and am lifted by your accomplishments. Thank you. Congratulations! I have been following your work for years and am lifted by your accomplishments. Thank you.

]]> By: barry http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-58105 barry Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:55:19 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-58105 Justice prevails!!! Thank You Morris Dees and all the SPLC staff for doing what the criminal justice system can't seem to get done,which is puttin' the hurt on the hate mongering purveyors of violence who spew vitreolic diatribes to infect the weak , ignorant and suseptable and to get the latter to do their sick violent bidding. It's not the speech that is unlawfull , but the action that follows . Keep up this very important work ,as I plan on being a supporter of Your organization for MANY tears to come --- You , Ladies and Gentlemen are true Patriots !!! Respectfully, Barry Justice prevails!!! Thank You Morris Dees and all the SPLC staff for doing what the criminal justice system can’t seem to get done,which is puttin’ the hurt on the hate mongering purveyors of violence who spew vitreolic diatribes to infect the weak , ignorant and suseptable and to get the latter to do their sick violent bidding. It’s not the speech that is unlawfull , but the action that follows .
Keep up this very important work ,as I plan on being a supporter of Your organization for MANY tears to come — You , Ladies and Gentlemen are true Patriots !!!

Respectfully, Barry

]]> By: Ben http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-57682 Ben Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:22:35 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-57682 Great work! I wish it didn't need to be done, but as long as these hate groups exist, I am glad that SPLC is out there fighting the good fight. I am proud to support SPLC. Great work! I wish it didn’t need to be done, but as long as these hate groups exist, I am glad that SPLC is out there fighting the good fight. I am proud to support SPLC.

]]> By: Becky http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-56785 Becky Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:10:35 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-56785 Cogratulations on the win. Good to know that justice prevailed for this young man. May there come a day where you bankrupt all of these hatemongers, and put all of their assets into the hands of their victims. Proud to be a supporter of SPLC. Cogratulations on the win. Good to know that justice prevailed for this young man. May there come a day where you bankrupt all of these hatemongers, and put all of their assets into the hands of their victims. Proud to be a supporter of SPLC.

]]> By: Rob http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-56770 Rob Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:00:48 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-56770 Morris Dees and the SPLC are real American heroes! I'm glad the case was won, and I look forward to the SPLC working to bankrupt the IKA scum. Fight on! Morris Dees and the SPLC are real American heroes!
I’m glad the case was won, and I look forward to the SPLC working to bankrupt the IKA scum.

Fight on!

]]> By: Kyle Stewart http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-56732 Kyle Stewart Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:42:59 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-56732 It is pathetic that we have such cross-eyed, inbred morons living in this day and age. These pointy-headed clowns are the lowest base form of scum, putrid mucus would be one step above them! What a waste of so-called "human" lives. These imbeciles should grow up and do real work, but then again, contributing to society was never their destiny. The KKK better be warned, they can groan and moan all they want, but the non-white population ain't going nowhere. They are here to fight and be a thorn in their slimy sides. It is pathetic that we have such cross-eyed, inbred morons living in this day and age. These pointy-headed clowns are the lowest base form of scum, putrid mucus would be one step above them! What a waste of so-called “human” lives. These imbeciles should grow up and do real work, but then again, contributing to society was never their destiny. The KKK better be warned, they can groan and moan all they want, but the non-white population ain’t going nowhere. They are here to fight and be a thorn in their slimy sides.

]]> By: KYJurisDoctor http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-56604 KYJurisDoctor Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:28:26 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-56604 May justice prevail, and righteousness run down like a mighty river. OsiSpeaks.com May justice prevail, and righteousness run down like a mighty river. OsiSpeaks.com

]]> By: ken mier http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-56454 ken mier Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:44:34 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-56454 Hell of A CASE MORRIS THE VIOLENCE HAS TO END. Ive been receiving Sarcastic emails from Various other KKK members all week. Be advised that this and the LOUISIANA KILLING HAS CAUSED OUR GROUP TO BEGIN OUR Birmingham ACCEPTANCE CAMPAINE TWO MONTHS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. We have cut thru the chase and began with the congregation that knows what forgiveness is all about. Birmingham will soon be known as the Magic City of Forgiveness instead of the Notorious City of Hate. An example for the rest of the Nation to follow. So you clean up the garbage and we will clean up the past. One Day @ A Time Hell of A CASE MORRIS
THE VIOLENCE HAS TO END.

Ive been receiving Sarcastic emails from Various other KKK members all week.
Be advised that this and the LOUISIANA KILLING HAS CAUSED OUR GROUP TO BEGIN OUR Birmingham ACCEPTANCE CAMPAINE TWO MONTHS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

We have cut thru the chase and began with the congregation that knows what forgiveness is all about.

Birmingham will soon be known as the Magic City of Forgiveness instead of the Notorious City of Hate.
An example for the rest of the Nation to follow.

So you clean up the garbage and we will clean up the past.
One Day @ A Time

]]> By: The Gunslinger http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/14/trial-day-3-teen-describes-klan-beating-in-final-day-of-testimony/comment-page-1/#comment-56399 The Gunslinger Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:04:43 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=2824#comment-56399 Go Morris Dees! I pray SPLC wins this case. Go Morris Dees! I pray SPLC wins this case.

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