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Campus Hate Group Founder: The End is Near for The Spartan Spectator

By David Holthouse on November 24, 2008 - 2:30 pm, Posted in Hate on Campus

Kyle Bristow, der Führer of the Michigan State University chapter of Young Americans for Freedom, or MSU-YAF, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has identified as a hate group, announced last Saturday that he planned to take the organization’s notoriously bigoted and mean-spirited blog, The Spartan Spectator, permanently offline “in a few days time.”

“I have decided that I will not blog anymore after I graduate from the communist-infested hellhole of Michigan State University,” stated Bristow, a senior international relations major. “I am moving on to bigger and better things, and I unfortunately will not have the time to continue blogging about the decline of Western civilization.”

As of this morning, the Spartan Spectator remained online.

Spartan Spectator runeBristow’s announcement came just six days after YAF-Watch, a blog that tracks the activities (“antics” might be a better word) of MSU-YAF, reported that Bristow had updated the blog’s homepage banner with a red-white-and-blue Othala rune, a popular symbol with neo-Nazis, racist skinheads and practitioners of Wotanism, a racist variant of the neo-pagan Odinist religion.

The Spartan Specator’s most recent “poll” offered readers the option of selecting “Untermenschen” as the word that “best describes leftists.” Literally translated as “sub-human,” Untermenschen is a term from Nazi ideology used to describe Jews, Gypsies and any other persons who didn’t meet Hitler’s standards of Aryan purity.

In Bristow’s latest survey of the Spartan Spectator faithful, Untermenschen beat out “stupid,” “evil” and “degenerate” with 54 percent of the vote.

  • icr

    Again according to Wikipedia:
    As a matter of fact, even Nietzsche himself used “Untermensch” at least once in contrast to “Übermensch” (Die fröhliche Wissenschaft [1882], 3rd book, Chapter 143)…

  • icr

    According to Wikipedia the earliest known runic inscriptions date back to 150 AD, That was quite a while before NS Germany came along. Attempts to ban the display of runes
    seems like racism directed towards the heritage of the indigenous peoples of Europe.

  • Jonathan

    Yes Ramsey, I find that “liberals” are some of the most narrow-minded, bigoted, intolerant people I know; they certainly aren’t liberal!

  • James Hull

    This Bristow kid is great!

  • Ramsey Clark

    I take everything I read on the Internet with a grain of salt. After looking into the activities of Bristow and YAF, I must say, “It’s about time!”

    Bristow and his people give me hope for the future of the country. Only intolerant liberals would ever defame the character of someone like Bristow.

  • Aslan Maskhadov

    As if that wasn’t enough, the work the CIA did via the various Eastern European emigre communities has ongoing effects today, often bloody ones at that.

  • Jack Boguth

    The SPLC reports about Bristow do not do him justice. Bristow is one of the most intelligent, honest, hard-working, kind people I have ever met.

    Because he is a proud conservative, liberals and left-wing organizations like the SPLC have made it their mission in life to attack him.

  • Tim Fleming

    Dear god…I cannot believe the posts here. Is there really a thriving subculture of fascists, active on college campuses and supportive of this Kyle Bristow? Tell me intellectual barbarism has not descended upon universities? I prefer to embrace the polls which indicate that Barack Obama won the vote of college-age kids by an overwhelming majority.

    This neo-Nazi stuff in America should not be taken lightly. It all began when the CIA evacuated the real Nazis after WWII…men like Hubertus Strughold, Walter Dornberger, Reinhard Gehlen, and Volkmar Schmidt, who should have been tried at Nuremberg for war crimes. And look what came of it. Our country’s policies, influenced by these American Nazis, obsessed with anti-communism, took a turn to the far right. Red scares, witch hunts, massive military build-up, unnecessary wars, suppression of freedom of the press, and illicit drugging and torture of innocent citizens ensued. I know because I’ve researched it extensively, and written about it in my book.

    Fascism, in all its forms, should be exposed and denounced before its evil seeds takes root.

    Tim Fleming
    author, “Murder Of An American Nazi”

  • iv

    untermensch was coined by Lothrop Stoddard not Nietzsche.

  • Aslan Maskhadov

    I got some bad news for you- You aren’t going to put one over on me since I had about four years in the WN movement and I know a thing or two about Othala runes and what the word untermensch means in context.

    The Othala rune and it’s various forms is widely used throughout the movement, and is common amongst skins as a tattoo.

  • Nicholas Stix

    1. Aslan Maskhadov said,

    ON NOVEMBER 26TH, 2008 AT 3:08 AM

    “Untermenschen was frequently used by the Nazis, in the same manner that the moron in question uses it. And yes, that is an Othala rune, period.”

    Are you really arguing that one can never use any phrase from a great philosopher or writer that has ever been abused by evil folk? Are you so ignorant that you have no idea that Nietzsche used the phrase in the same way that Bristow did? (That was a rhetorical question; your ignorance is obvious.)

    In that case, let me be the first to call you an Untermensch. Untermensch, Untermensch, Untermensch.

    You remind me of this ignorant, supremely arrogant Israeli girl I encountered in August, 1980. Along with about 98 other people, we were studying German in a Goethe Institut in Blaubeuren, West Germany. She was obviously a Jew; I didn’t know yet that she was Israeli. Passing each other on the street at lunch time one day, I asked her, in one of the few phrases I had learned in my college Yiddish classes, “Bist Du eine Yidne?” (Are you Jewish?/female gender) I don’t recall if she answered, but I know she never spoke to me again.

    At the end of the program, in late September, a Protestant American theology student who was friends with both of us told me that she had complained to him, “’Yidne’ was what the Nazis called the Jews!” I told him, if they did, they got it from Yiddish!

    You and the arrogant, Israeli Yidne perfectly embody the phrase, “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.” For all I know, by now she’s a tenured, empty professor of Judaic Studies/Feminist Studies somewhere.

    As for your claim, “And yes, that is an Othala rune, period,” do you really think that I would trust you to give me the correct time of day? During five years in West Germany, I never saw that symbol. I’ve never seen it at white supremacist/neo-Nazi/whatever Web sites maintained in this country, or elsewhere. And the BNP has repudiated anti-Semitism.

    The main source for your blind assertion is the ADL, which I’m sure is where you got your “expertise.” (Is that where you did your Nietzsche scholarship, as well? Or did you get it from The Pretend Encyclopedia, aka Wikipedia?) But the ADL is as dishonest, if not as successful as the SPLC.

    So, do you have any legitimate sources for your claims? Never mind.

  • Carter

    To be fair, the SPLC HAS viewed several group composed of minorities as “hate groups”. However my point still remains. Universities have NOT embraced diversity in political perspectives; often on a moderate conservative level. This in turn allows many individuals to dissent further in their leanings toward the Right. Extremism on BOTH the Left & Right eventually lead to the same place: bombings & murder, as the Weather Underground & Red Army Faction so profoundly exemplifies.

    Finding a common ground for communication is the very hallmark of healthy exchange of ideas. Sadly, many universities do not allow that to blossom. Students are commonly chastised for not using the proper “PC” expressions.

    My first experience with that was when I was quite young & complimented someone with the expression “that gal has a great idea”. I was told scornfully that the person in question was a “woman” NOT a “GAL”; & told to shut up. I never forgot that situation wherein I was reproached, not for saying something hateful, but not using the “PC” terminology. I was taken aback as I had no idea that what I said was in any manner demeaning.

    But I WAS left with the impression that I had done something very wrong & needed to watch myself. I started censoring my every word and grew resentful. The fact that I was a minority did not “save me” from the Thought Police. My own group was changing their self-name with consistency & that made little sense. But I can see through the eyes of others, their feelings of alienation. I can understand how a reactionary climate can flourish in such an environment.

    Self hatred & hatred of others kindles from the same flame. One is not “Black enough” if one gets a high GPA or speaks with proper English. Jews are the “synagogue of Satan”, Arabs are pedophiles, the list is endless as is easily seen in these blogs. The Thought Police do not stem THAT tide: they simply build harbors where different ships dock.
    If I had “The Answer” I would certainly attempt to promote it, but I don’t. I do know that forced social conformity breeds rebellion, especially in the young.

    Our newly elected President mentions the very same feelings in his book. – That feeling of not belonging because he wasn’t identifiable enough for those who demand a certain conformity. But it appears that this conformity breeds mediocrity & if one is to rise above it, one needs to be true to one’s own ideals.
    The goal therefore is not to attempt to forcefully change anther’s thinking but to allow it’s expression so that individual may examine it in [the] freedom from defensive isolationism.

  • Aslan Maskhadov

    Untermenschen was frequently used by the Nazis, in the same manner that the moron in question uses it. And yes, that is an Othala rune, period.

  • frank

    There is a post on pointing out that the symbol has also been used by the youth branch of the British National Party (BNP). Bristow has been supportive of the BNP, both by bringing its leader Nick Griffin to MSU and suggesting their website as a place for people to visit in the absence of the Spartan Spectator.

  • Nicholas Stix

    Dear Mr. Holthouse,

    “Untermenschen” does not derive from “Nazi ideology,” but from Nietzsche. It is typically translated into English as “underman.” Nietzsche is better known for the term, “Uebermensch,” which translates into English variously as “Superman” and “overman.” A beautiful language, German.

    As for Kyle Bristow, he is a heroic young American. You’d do well to emulate him.

    As for your claims about the symbol he used, I assumed at first sight that it was a “bring home the troops” symbol. Although I spend a good deal of time, on and off, reading white supremacist/neo-Nazi/whatever sites, I fail to see the connection of which you spoke, which you borrowed third-hand, anyway. Perhaps you are simply passing along yet another race hoax.

    As for MSU-YAF, what hateful acts has it engaged in? Do tell. I’m not aware of any, but I am aware of a great many racist, violent, hateful acts that have been committed against conservative, white MSU students by racist groups. Why have there been no SPLC reports on the real hate groups at MSU?

  • Carter

    “What IF there were no one left who did NOT have a diverse opinion about things?” What IF there were NO extremists? …..Right or Left, on this or that subject….We would be as badly off as if we were to follow some ideologue! Because the absence of dissent pushes us little by little to a bland acceptance of whatever the cultural norm or accepted “correct” format is – that that place, time, institution, etc.

    My point is that shrill dissent is often the only form of dissent left to some who feel as though they have no method of finding a middle-ground. Extremism is often grown from a seedling, not fully grafted from an existing plant.

    Our universities today are very narrow and shallow in their acceptance of differing perspectives on life & politics. This can be a breeding ground for extremism as it attracts those who feel disenfranchised due to not using the proper “PC terminology” or having a view different from what the professor deems “proper & appropriate”.

    When I see some extremism tolerated and other forms NOT tolerated on a campus, I know that campus does not tolerate free expression. Often the by-product of that is further extremism: until hate groups emerge.

    I saw the YAF coming ALONG TIME BEFORE IT ARRIVED! If one’s goal is to address hate group & intolerance, the self-defeating thing to do is pick & choose among them.

    Stalin on the Left & Hitler on the Right: when extremism takes wings they meet at the same place. They go full circle. Innocent people die.

  • Jonathan

    “… MSU-YAF, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has identified as a hate group …”

    Identified? Please. Does the SPLC have men (and women) in white coats running scientific experiments with microscopes for the identification process?