“Enjoy Geno.s[sic] 5 Dec. @ 4:44 where he makes a French statement AND immediately tells himself to speak English, Hillarious!”

From the one calling herself “Brian”, who has no reading or spelling comprehensional abilities. She thinks I made a–

“French statement”???

As I have just stated the fact that she can’t seem to read anything posted there and to prove that she is wrong, try reading the post by “T. Cooper” on 2008-12-03 @ 6:30pm….

How “Arrogant and silly” of you.
Now the jokes on you, pal. Enjoy.

Before you go any further with GENO and JOHNATHAN, first go to the following site, Dobbs Minimizes impact of hate crimes, bashes immigrants rights groups.

Notice how Johnathan did not criticize Genos twice as long statement of 8 DEC @10:12 AM ( carpal tunnel) as he does yours. Enjoy Geno,s 5 DEC @ 4:55 where he makes a French statement AND immediately tells himself to speak English, Hilarious! Of course one can never lose an argument when arguing with ones self. Also notice Johnathan’s Hillbilly antics with his 1DEC @ 5:14 statement.
They don’t appear to understand much, yet are quick to argue even when confronted with facts and knowledge that they were not aware of, quite Arrogant and silly of them.
It seems like these guy’ s are working together ,so handle accordingly.

This is only natural for a movement that preaches revolution and at the same time holds a conspiratorial view of the world. The thing about conspiracy theories is that they are non-falsifiable, and due to lack of evidence, the “justice” that adherents seek never comes. As a result, frustration builds, and for movements with an especially violent ideology, it sometimes causes people to go off on a spree, especially if their personal life is messed up. Of course many incidents tied to the movement were not necessarily last-ditch attempts to get some kind of vengeance on society- sometimes they were planned acts of terror.

And as I said before, the popularity of shows like South Park(among others) does disprove any notion that there is some kind of political correctness in society. In fact, both sides of the political spectrum often insist on its existence, but political correctness is often defined differently. Conservatives tend to believe that open, fundamentalist Christianity and conservative values are “politically incorrect”, almost radical. Some more “liberal” types think that offending said values are “politically incorrect”. Both sides are acting in a manner that is idiotic- because of course such a concrete politically line could not be so contradictory.

In the real world, it’s not that political correctness exists, but rather as people have the right to express certain opinions, others have the right to react to them. Some people simply cannot handle that, and thus pretend there is some kind of persecution afoot.

With regard to elements of “pro-White” organizations, that engage in criminality, you seem to expect that I should wear sack-cloth, shave my head and roll around in ashes!

Is there any evidence of the “… many incidents are ideologically connected to the WN movement, …”? Touchy-feelies pontificating doesn’t count.

I know you didn’t use the word “evil”, I did. It was to emphasize a point. South Park being popular doesn’t prove that PC does not exist. Take the counter example of Dr. Watson.

“When does “hate” = engaged in violence?”
- You seemed to imply that with what you earlier said:
“on December 3rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm
How many attacks based on ethnicity has the National Council of La Raza been connected to?”

“For a group of people so concerned about having everyone speak English, you ought to brush up a little.”
- What? When did I mention about speaking English? And what’s this “group of people” thing, is it one of those “you people” things?

Now…for our main program:

Jonathan said,

“I’d agree that there are some “pro-White” organizations that disreputable and do more damage to White interests than good. I’m not really fond of them at all. If they commit crimes they deserve to go to jail.”

First off, let’s not call it damaging “white interests” and call it what it is- crime and terrorism. Second, if you actually took the time to see how many incidents are ideologically connected to the WN movement, you would be surprised. Everything from random beatings to shootings, and the occasional bombing. I highly doubt we would allow a radical Islamic organization to run a mosque in the US, openly preaching for insurrection against the US government. Yet we for some reason have allowed WN organizations to not only openly do just that, constantly, but even have paramilitary training camps in some cases.

And all that is AFTER the Oklahoma City Bombing, the worst domestic terrorist attack in American history. And despite all the bombings, counterfeiting, fraud, threats, and even open declarations of war(the Order), the system considers ALF/ELF to be the biggest domestic threat in the US. That’s right, the folks that let animals out of pens and occasionally wreck a bulldozer.

“The point I was making is that people in this article and others are condemned as “evil” but haven’t done anything wrong or illegal, except being politically incorrect. ”

I didn’t see anyone using the word “evil”, but does one have to do something illegal to be considered “wrong”? And political correctness does not exist, nobody can accurately define it anyway. You think political correctness exists? Fine, explain to me why South Park is one of the highest rated shows on television.

“For example, the SPLC labels VDare a “hate website”. Has Peter Brimlow engaged in violence? Or Paul Gottfried, who is a great conservative intellectual and happens to be Jewish. Do you condemn him?”

When does “hate” = engaged in violence? For a group of people so concerned about having everyone speak English, you ought to brush up a little.

I see your point. I guess you’re right. If Hispanics can have a “racial advocacy” group, then why not Native Americans, Asians or even Muslim Americans? I know Blacks have the NAACP and others.
But the White Man tend to be over-represented in this country. And yet, they’re asking for more organizations. And I wondered, what more can they want? And Why?
They got the WN movement. They got the FAIR, ALIPAC, MInutemen, CCC, KKK,VDARE, the John Birch Society, hell even the Republican Party just to name a few. I think the motive behind your point may be a little too substantial.

I actually enjoy Sancho posting here. He’s entertaining.

I’ve never asserted that Ms. Murgia has engaged in violence. The point I was making is the double standard in labeling what is a “hate” group. Personally I wouldn’t call NCLR a hate group, they’re a racial advocacy group. Thus I think it is a double-standard to call VDare a “hate” group.

To cite your example of “Reverse Racism”, that’s a possiblity and to exemplify this possiblity, look to “Sancho” as a good example. Quite frankly, I don’t think anyone takes him or his somewhat retarded puny arguments seriously. But he is an *individual* example of a “racist” esta pendejo del loco hombre but not an organizational one….

“As Peter Brimlow [ever] engaged in violence?”

In contrast to your “point”, has Janet Murgia ever engaged in violence??? Let alone, does she as the prez of NCLR promotes violence on the Anglo-Saxons, to be regarded as a hategroup??? If so, can you name an incident by citing a valid source to prove your “point”???
Its unlikely but I doubt it.

Racism always happens, has always happened and always will. Its just the nature of things.

“Doesn’t exist genius. Now if you want to talk about folk like Tim McVeigh or the Order, or perhaps Ben Smith…then we have another story.”

I’d agree that there are some “pro-White” organizations that disreputable and do more damage to White interests than good. I’m not really fond of them at all. If they commit crimes they deserve to go to jail.

The point I was making is that people in this article and others are condemned as “evil” but haven’t done anything wrong or illegal, except being politically incorrect.

For example, the SPLC labels VDare a “hate website”. Has Peter Brimlow engaged in violence? Or Paul Gottfried, who is a great conservative intellectual and happens to be Jewish. Do you condemn him?

I think I’ve made my point.

The SPLC certainly has a double-standard; they give “The National Council of La Raza” a thumbs up, but would expect that they would treat the hypothetical “National Council of La Raza Blanca” the same?

The SPLC needs to support this, or the negation therof, with facts and argument. The SPLC is a kangaroo court; a self-appointed moral authority. They have no mandate other than political correctness itself to go around bashing folks who disagree with them.

What you cite as evidence is no different than what folks like Arthur Kemp use to claim that the founders of Indian, Egyptian, and Chinese(and even Japanese) civilization were all white. Namely drawings and statues.

Please enlighten all of us who do not understand YOUR ways of logic and higher learning’s, and help bring us to Nirvana, oh enlightened one.

Arrogance, is even more ridiculous then illogical and those that practice it, should never be taken seriously either.

It’s debatable? Gee I guess we will just have to believe you and not our lying eyes. Guess we will just have to ignore the Pictures of ancient Egyptian temples where they clearly depict, the Black, Brown and Lighter skin characters also.
Oh , and Napoleon did not have his soldiers blow away the nose of the Sphynx either, nor are the statues with negroid features real either. I suppose also that just because the American Indians ONLY migrated from Asia to the Americas. It really means that, they actually did not come from Asia.
Hey, how about that Bush, the economy booming, peace all over the world, and the martians have actually landed, wow, But then again, it’s debatable isn’t it?

Try going to a Museum and picking up a map sometime. You, will be astonished to discover what continent, Egypt is actually in, then again YOU may disagree.

The same way a local talk radio station marketed itself as “younger, smarter, better”–while featuring the same-old same-old hosts and shows.