Comments on: New SPLC Report: Three leading anti-immigration groups share extremist roots

By: Apachecheynne

Apachecheynne — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:07:03 +0000

Every state comes up with for or against…better known as where the money is designated….because there ae more and more Americans doing without it seems that we are over looked…it’s not just “you and your family, and it is even noteworthy to say that many of the systems that are still in existance are behind the gammet on providing benefit to Americans….it’s across the board…finding a job has become a everyday, every minute dilemna because of one reason or another…No matter how one tries, the jobs are not offering enough pay, or support…and what is this really due to! The heiarchy has been switched uside down and it does not make it right but as I see it, two people trying to find work to offset the needs vs poverty is grave….What is the President doing….I do not see any quick resolution because of immigrants….I think thee is more to this picture that is disabling the American people…If banks can get a bail out, why can’t citizens…why are banks so greedy helpng the families who are in dispariy by the numbers, I doubt banks will go broke helping a family get on their feet!

By: SabrinaR

SabrinaR — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:28:12 +0000

Summer, I am sorry to hear about your current situation – our prayers will be with you. I hear what you are saying, but you can not just let us know — you must contact your representatives and senators, write them, email them and call them—let them hear what’s in your voice, let them hear your story. This is a story that is coming forth from many states—the American people are standing up and saying NO MORE – we are taking our country back and if you don’t like it then step aside. I have been watching a lot of CSPAN regarding the committies on Universal Health Care and every time the Republicans tried to offer a bill that says illegals will NOT be covered on health care paid for by American taxpayers the democrats would vote it down — what does that tell you??? Summer – let your voice be heard and make it count if not for your self then for your children.
Hang in there—it will get better—-it may take 3 more years, but it will get better!!!!

By: Apachecheynne

Apachecheynne — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:21:08 +0000

To add to this lack of tolerance…does anyone know who the first steam-boat captain was? Does anyone know how he creo;as and the cajuns can to be and be powerful In louisiana? There are facts but never brought forward as most would think….Facts! In a court of law many facts are brought forward to win a case, but there are facts that aren’t brought forward to make a healthy wise decision by our judges! If what I see and have heard in the courts down south, give a flicker in what goes on at the “top” of our country, then, I as an American do not believe just what is borught forward…I know there is more to the story….much is meaningful that is not brought forward for a person to be innocent or guilty…much horrendous of acts….If one is to lean the truth, one is to bring all accounts that the “law” must decide on the fairness, and the justice to be rendered….I do not see that happening in the smaller courts nor the higher courts….to much manipulations…and the purpose! I too am a thinker, who looks to preserve the rights of….but I am also inclined to learn that “truth” is not always the facts presented….someone shifts the words, and changes the dialect….I have seen enough to not believe just what is gossipped about….I have learned that problems are evident because “people” are bias, scarred from fighting, standing up for, and misrepresenting themselves as well as others….Immigration is apart of our country, the real problem is some states closer to the borders see what most of us do not see…it is hard to judge what is not seen…to make a dutiful decision as to how to protect and defend without causing prejudicial treatment…Many came to this country as immigrants…those who got in trouble was a clash of many things….Illegals is a “bad” name for those who come to survive against oppression and death….there is a better way….and for that good is always compromised by evil gain….

By: Summer

Summer — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:16:47 +0000

As a side note to my previous rant! Due the current situation with the economy, my husband and I have been laid off from our jobs. We were both employed full time for many years, supporting our family with no assistance from Federal programs. We were forced to go on unemployment, and have been very actively seeking employment since. After 6 months of waiting it out and busting our butts to make ends meet, we were finally at the point that we had to apply for Medicaid for our children (due to the fact that they both suffer from severe asthma and cannot be without medical coverage). In the waiting room at the Income Support Division, I looked up and saw a sign to this effect “If you are an illegal immigrant, and have been denied services due to lack of documentation, please speak to a social worker…..we can help!” WHAT???????????? This is an outrage!

By: Summer

Summer — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:03:14 +0000

Reading the pro-immigration arguments on these sites makes me sick to my stomach!!! To all of the advocates excersing their freedom of speech, speaking up for the ILLEGAL immigrants currently destroying our country………..I suggest that you all come and spend a month (or even just a WEEK) living in Southern New Mexico or Arizona. Here, as English speaking Americans…..we, and OUR CHILDREN….are the minority! When we go anywhere in our communities…..be it the doctor, dentist, grocery store, clothing store……we are treated as second class citizens because we don’t speak Spanish (excuse me…..I didn’t know I suddenly crossed the border into Mexico?????) When we send our children to school, we have to contend with them being outsiders of the VERY prevolent “Brown Pride” attitude (AND established GANG!) because they are not “Hispanic”!!!!!! Are you freakin KIDDING ME???? Not to mention the fact that most of the jobs in the area are PUBLICLY listed as “bi-lingual prefered” because if you work in a public office….you must have the ability to speak spanish in order to converse with most of the public!!! NO! If you insist on living in our country……….we insist you learn our language!!! Bottom line is that it is BULLSHIT! It was not until I had children of middle school age that I realized how outrageous this situation has become! My children are being discriminated against becuase they are WHITE IN AMERICA?????? I am completely and thouroughly ENRAGED with this situation. How did our leaders let it come to this??

By: SabrinaR

SabrinaR — Tue, 26 May 2009 15:34:03 +0000

I will say it again——Those who pander for amnesty for illegal aliens are those who profit from them. The racist card has been played too many times and does not raise the eye-brow as it use to—-what does raise the eye-brow are the facts—-Americans will no longer be the quiet little children who are to be seen but not heard—-we will no longer put up with those who wish to drag this nation down, those who try to make us feel less compassionate or those who stick their hands in our pockets and declare that we owe them —- go home if this is not your home — we have enough Americans who need our help.

By: Leann

Leann — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:36:48 +0000

I agree with the contributors who ask why there’s an inordinate amount of information about, and emphasis on white supremacists, and seemingly little about other racist – and anti-Semitic groups like Voz De Aztlan, Nation of Islam, and any number of Muslim extremist groups.

Check out: http://www.adl.org. The Anti-Defamation League (an organization started in 1913) seems to take a more even-handed, all-encompassing, global approach to these issues.

By: Judi

Judi — Sun, 24 May 2009 17:14:19 +0000

PS to my previous comment — I was TURNED DOWN for Medicaid because I had no income at all and was forced to take early Social Security (with no medical benefits as I’m not yet 65) in order to live. Illegals come here, have baby after baby and those children become citizens at our expense. It’s time for something to be done.

By: Judi

Judi — Sun, 24 May 2009 17:12:20 +0000

When my great grandparents arrived in the US from Germany, along with all the “legal” immigrants who were coming here for a better life and to assimilate into our culture, there were no signs printed in German, Italian, Chinese or any other language. I am totally offended that we have become a 2 language country; if the LEGAL immigrants really wish to assimilate here in our country, let them learn our language. I recently lost my job after working for 45 years and paying taxes, and I applied for Medicaid; I was the only English speaking person in the very large room, and there was a huge sign saying “WE PROVIDE TRANSLATORS”… who is paying for those translators? Fair is fair. Come here legally and become an American, or don’t come here at all!

By: Leann

Leann — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:58:54 +0000

Thanks for your reply, Sabrina.

There are some excellent comments about Voz De Aztlan, a blatantly and virulently anti-Semitic group. Id’ like to see the SPLC site call more attention – and provide more information about La Raza and the Nation of Islam.

By: Mrs Jalica Miller

Mrs Jalica Miller — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:04:15 +0000

Those who are honest, think with honest intent…but overtime of my life I have actually seen the motives of racist intent, spurred through lines of fairness…Immigration is just like blacks wanting to vote, wanting to own businesses, wanting to be apart of this country as they deserved to be….brought here through means of white trading…I wonder why we have these issues today about immigration…was slavery to give these people a job open for exchange…Someone saw a business of making money from illegals…because they were welcome on a visit…and if who they stay with keeps focus and request extension, sometimes it was given…what caused the illegal upheaval..because Big Brother turned an “eye”! For this one Major..i tell you I am a fullblooded born American, served the military, found that racism is a corner stone of many white eyes to disengage those who would become leaders…I saw, I watched and I stood up against such detriments….So when I speak to look at illegals…NO one has the right to persecute another…NO ONE…and in the south I learned what persecution is!!!!!!!!! You may be oblivious to the cults that exist…Drugs are inplicated in order to cover-up racism and white supremacy throughout the legal sector mr Major!

By: SabrinaR

SabrinaR — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:08:46 +0000

Leann S. – you are absolutely correct —- no one is apposed to immigrantion, but illegal immigration will no longer be tolorated – the cost to American citizens is just too much to continue.

By: Leann S.

Leann S. — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:38:51 +0000

While this is very surprising and disheartening news
(I occasionally receive emails from FAIR and Numbers) most clear-thinking, reasonable people are not opposed to immigration. They are opposed to illegal immigration – and the lack of any kind of system that enables our government to know who’s coming and going in our country – including dangerous criminals and terrorists.

By: mother teresa

mother teresa — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:55:28 +0000

hello ,my dear friends ,try to love one another with a open heart,let the children come ,enjoy life while still living ,the world and its passions for pleasure will past ,but God will ALWAYS BE. LOVE WITH OUT CONDITIONS,M.T.

By: Mrs Jalica Miller

Mrs Jalica Miller — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:08:15 +0000

I grew up in a cultural mixed society…and there was respect and regard for people back then! What has happened to our country today is the on-set of greed and dishonor…What is to be Honored is Truth…and Truth is not relevant for those who have managed to use tyranny and suppression to “keep those who want what is right” to exist…The diety that exist is the ignorance and the lack of leadership to control our borders..to control the enevitable rights to be heard..but also, the ingenuious concerns that have cost many their lives. America has been a nation that many wish to share in…but we also have our faults..predicated on misconceived undertakings and more…But we are who we are as we educate and gain unsurmountable ways to “stop” the detriments…But with that comes the schemes of so much more…Are we on top of this dilemna…We recognize the collaborations, the undertakings to bring about acceptance to many but the “threats, the dangers” to those who wish to right the wrongs have become grave…We have a new President, but we still have baggage of injustices that impede the renewal of “change”! Apachecheynne

By: Gregory

Gregory — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:53:38 +0000

Wow, this thread disintegrated into a festival of sock puppetry. I guess that sort of things works on WN sites, probably not so much here.

By: SabrinaR

SabrinaR — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:52:18 +0000

Jalica – I think we have turned over too much power to our government – and many decissions in Washington are based on the needs of “big business” – politicians who do not have the best interest of this nation or her citizens at heart will be exposed and removed from office. Nobody likes violence – but you can not be one who sits around and takes whatever your government wants to hand you – especially when you know it’s not what’s best for you or your family or your country – people have become “welfare-ish” lazy and dependent – not at all what this nation was based on – take this last election – what I heard a lot of people saying was “What are you going to GIVE me – put gas in my car and pay my mortgage” some people actually believe our government has their own checking account with unlimited funds—-THAT MONEY COMES FROM AMERICAN TAXPAYERS – wake up people!!!! The government doesn’t give you anything without American taxpayers covering the bill. Get involved with what is happening in your city, state and voice your concerns – hold your elected officials responsible. We accept ALL legal immigrants in this nation, because they cared enough about this nation and her citizens to become one of us, but those who do not care and do things unlawfully are NOT welcomed.

By: Mrs Jalica Miller

Mrs Jalica Miller — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:28:33 +0000

Sabrina! Thank You…From where I sit today…the oppression of learning what I have..to trust and make wrong decisions because of lies…to find that what was told was manipulations so grave…This movement to “stand strong” I want to be counted in as an American who wants to see no more harm…Is there not any truth to what a Leader can do? We are a People that have been led because “we believed in our Leaders! I despise violence….the mundane, the hypocrits who use any means to break our country down for their purpose…Someone profits while we suffer….and the ears and eyes have no comfort to come together with those who can,,,and will….”talk”…Talk does not change what we now are facing!

By: SabrinaR

SabrinaR — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:02:36 +0000

Jalica – sounds to me you thing giving up is the end game. There are those of us who will fight on no matter how long or how big the battle – yes our government – our elected officials have failed us, but we the people created this mess by not paying attention. I have always been a firm believer that a simple test should be given to any citizen who stands in line to vote – just to make sure they “have a clue”—anyway—saying they win, we lose is NOT an option – there is a movement happening at this very moment of American citizens who will no longer settle, or believe all they are told, but demand the wrongs be made right and that the laws of this nation mean something and make sure people are held accountable for their actions. The filth and distruction in this nation is not due to “something THEY did” it is due to “something WE didn’t do”. BUT TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGING!!!!!

By: Mrs Jalica Miller

Mrs Jalica Miller — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:25:05 +0000

Sabrina! I feel a great sense of injustice and loss for those who mean well, but we as Americans have not been put first since the day Corporate America sold us out! How much more does the American worker say, or can do…So much heartache now across this land…So much more,,,The fight is non-stop…and yes! Those who come here illegally can come no more…the trenches are full, the laws are broken, the doors are cracked, and the Men of Right have lost their lives to continue to fight…Yes…No more suffering to any of the men and women who live next door to the fences and the borders across these shores…We are a Land of the free…but to be free is to believe…Our Land is full of desicration of too much…Our Washington Office gave way to Greed and Congress sat on their knees….Amen and Yes, I agree to hault somewhere this continueal upheave! Apachecheynne

By: SabrinaR

SabrinaR — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:29:42 +0000

Jalica – you are correct about “how much was kept from our ears and eyes” – we have no idea what “deals” were made “south of the border”, but the reality is the taxpayers of this nation are taxed out and because so many illegals come here and become a financial burdin the time has finally come to say NO MORE – the last amnesty we had was to be “THE LAST”, but due to the lack of security at our borders and the inability for those with visa’s to be tracked we have been invaded by million more illegals who have no interest in becoming legal, learning the language or blending into the melting pot – this is a masive injustice to Americans. We must send ALL who are here illegally back to their homeland and if they want to return they must follow the rules – we must put a hault on visas until we get Americans back to work. It is time for this nation to put her citizens first for a change.

By: Mrs Jalica Miller

Mrs Jalica Miller — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:52:06 +0000

Sabrina! I hear you and I believe you have a piece as well as to what we face Now! Hatred and fear causes violence to be committed against those in view….I fear for more injustice….It is wrong for people of other countries to violate our own..but our own are causing more violence due to the lack of Leadership and oversight! We who pay attention, did so due to the errosion of much…but how much was kept from our ears and eyes…We who are Americans do want the rights to be given, but not manipulated as often happens through the representations of our own constitutional rights!

By: Mrs Jalica Miller

Mrs Jalica Miller — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:46:04 +0000

Tolerance….There is so much more to learn as our country tries to empower those who want to create a harmonious relationship for what is just….the change that is needed through “those who are willing and able” Our system is broken, and continues to manage on a thumb nail…Our Nation is the “Land of the Free” but many things that have happened has to do with the lack of Leadership, and moral judments rather than just the illegals, or the violations that bring on other wrongs…We need more than understanding, issues that need addressing must be non-bias, and give respect to a certain right that fosters “truth and what it is to be a “legal” in the United States… We need to build a strong justice to what we are about…Civilization did not get started on one race…it did not begin with faith of endeavor to build for one, but our country opened its doors to trade and more than was watched….Manipulations are at the backdrop, and more underlying problems have caused a rift for our country!

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:10:42 +0000

Aslan: the neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, etc. all existed before the invasion of the brown supremacists.

The bottom line is that this is a matter of civil rights: Americans and LEGAL immigrants have the right to equality under the law. Yes, you are speaking hatred when you stand up for special rights for Mestizos.

Comprehensive Immigration Reform IS Racism

By: SabrinaR

SabrinaR — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:09:28 +0000

Jalica – yes a big portion of the problems we currently face (economically) are due to greed from Wall Street and Big Corporations, but you can not forget that included in the problems we face are people in this nation who have no right to be here—no right to a job here—no right to social services here that are paid for by American taxpayers. Illegalls were allowed to buy homes — no money down—and when it came time to pay the mortgage—–guess what happened (all for the sake of a poor person being able to buy a home) and Bank of America allowed illegals to open accounts-make loans—what do you think happened there?? Big business has created a lot of the problems by hiring illegals—that’s why E-Varify is so important–to assure that the person being hired has a “legal” right to the job—but organizations like LaRaza will fight E-Varify because they want illegals to take jobs from Americans—again they profit from it!!!!!

By: SabrinaR

SabrinaR — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:42:32 +0000

Aslan – illegals are NOT doing any service (jobs) that Americans haven’t done for decades.
Major – you are absolutely correct – those who call the citizens racist (for loving our country and wanting to keep her strong) are the very ones who profit from illegals – would that make them “pimps”????
As I said before—SHOULD WE ADOPT THE LAWS OF MEXICO REGARDING WHAT THEY DO WITH ILLEGALS WHO ARE FOUND IN THEIR COUNTRY?? Would someone like to answer that question??? And if those, in this nation illegally, don’t like what is going on in their own countries—get together—go home and take care of business instead of bringing our country and her citizens down.

By: Mrs Jalica Miller

Mrs Jalica Miller — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:07:08 +0000

The drain on this economy is the emotional upheaval that has festered …The economy is hurt because of the investors, bankers and the top notch greed for more….Misinterpretation! The illegals cause two things to happen…more legal issues and more invstment to further or prevent the influx…Something happened to its oversight! The upheaval on the United States is the waste of money, time and people to make right what has fallen to a pool of ups and downs…Someone has allowed this to continue…Laws have not stopped the wrongs for or against…This becomes a continual fight…I do not blame a group of people on the US Economy…The People are our own Americans…Greed…Investors!

By: Aslan Maskhadov

Aslan Maskhadov — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:36:28 +0000

But they are not an overall net drain on the economy. They built the neighborhoods, the shopping centers, the new roads, the malls, the new schools, etc. Those things put money into the economy and increase jobs, not the other way around.

If you want to blame someone for the crash of the US economy, blame the idiots who kept pushing for deregulation for over 20 years.

By: americanjoe

americanjoe — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:31:17 +0000

Ruslan: Just because some illegal aliens pay into Social Security or pay federal income taxes does NOT mean that they aren’t a overall net drain on our economy. You have to look at ALL of the financial numbers associated with illegal immigration, and not just the few that you choose to highlight.

By: Mrs Jalica Miller

Mrs Jalica Miller — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:42:06 +0000

Immigration is at the forefront to many Americans now, but only because of the problems that are coming in the “worst” of ways…drugs, violence, draining the meager jobs that “most” will not do…But the worst is knowing that a business man will say ” I would rather higher 20 Mexicans than one black” I hate them! This is the kind of statements that have festered here on the home front…and worse is knowing that the Master is White-Upper Class who truely believes that immigrants are obediant…Hmmm! Who has allowed the influx…Who has permitted this…read history about the southern connection…Someone is keeping this fuelled…someone has the Power, the Influence and the Stture to direct what ever He chooses…Yet, we don’t want illegals, and many who may not be worry because of the manner inwhich the “law” can manipulate and hurt those who do not break it…Many things I have learned as I live in the South…How the means and greed of racism, can and will bring about vicous ways to strain the best of intent, to funneling confusion to the average “Joe”! I am no longer in dismay as to why we have sold our country to the highest bidder…The American Business Man who can come and go freely throughout the “World” can make “Sweet Deals” unknown to the United States and get away with justifying their stakes by profitting from attorneys who protect their interest, and if that means allowing immigration to flood the system that is the way you cause “hate and mayham” old addage of the south….Millionaires of “old school” politics manage to play the game at high stakes that the average person would not “see or notice”! All the reasons brought forth maybe sound in why illegals need to be sent back…but it must be done to “protect and stand on “good, solid affirmation” rather than bias intentions! Apachecheynne