There have been plenty of articles discrediting MEChA for their hostile rhetoric towards whites. Many Hispanics within my university avoid them all together because of that rhetoric. Although I’m not a huge fan of MEChA, I do believe they serve a useful purpose in organizing and planning marches for/against issues that strongly affect the Chicano/Latino Community.

The student hate group hosted neo-Nazi activist Larry Pratt at American University. Pratt was fired from white nationalist Pat Buchanan’s 1996 presidential campaign, because Pratt was too hateful for even Buchanan.

The YWC chapter at Vanderbuilt is promoting a hate event.

From the article,

“The initial immigrants concerned themselves with things like American history, American culture, and they actively assimilated,” Saucier said. “Whereas now, there are those that say you don’t even have to assimilate, you can move to a Mexican ghetto or something like that and retain your same language, retain your same culture, root against the U.S. in sporting events, hang a Puerto Rican flag from your visor, whatever the case may be, and its not the same dedication to America that there used to be.”

I don’t remember claiming that I speak for you. In fact I do agree with your last post in its entirety. This is why I have a problem with concepts such as slavery reparations, affirmative action, quotas and media bias against white society in general – all of those lump whites together and assume (as you say) that “all whites are responsible for slavery”. Similarly I do not hold all blacks responsible for my past suffering or even for the ongoing suffering of non-blacks via black crime. The primary unit of Mankind is the individual and nobody but individuals can be responsible for crimes or merits. In some circles, saying such things would get me labeled as “racist”. When I speak of “group rights”, I am referring to the right of every individual to be a part of something larger than himself and feel good about it. I’m Jewish and I feel good about that. Blacks should feel good about their heritage too. White Christians should feel good about their heritage too – and that’s where we find so many misguided people objecting. They feel that white Christians have no right to feel good about their heritage and their group. Those misguided people are haters and they should be more tolerant. They need to cease being cruel to white Christian children by denying them the right to feel good about themselves and their origins. They need to cease condemning all/every organizations that work to advance the interests of white Christians as a group.

Vdare certainly is not a hate group – and yet the SPLC does consider it a hate group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDARE).

Let me first give credit where credit is due. Thank you SPLC for publishing my comments and breaking with the leftist tradition of stifling all dissent.

I wanted to point out an important distinction. People who feel they are being oppressed – and who feel they have no voice – tend to get frustrated. They get angry and they fume over injustices they feel are ignored by the mainstream. I suffered, for 4 years, from forced busing. I was subject to extreme racial intimidation by blacks. I was attacked by a black mob (solely for the color of my skin – by which they took me to be Mexican), had a knife to my throat and was threatened daily. The mainstream media/establishment refuses to even acknowledge my suffering and the suffering of thousands of others like me. I’ve found sympathy and encouragement with vdare, Amren and similar groups that do not preach hatred or violence but are outspoken about the troubles that “diversity” has brought. If organizations like SPLC are truly interested in eliminating such groups, then you should acknowledge that there is a serious racist problem among blacks and Hispanics, that whites can (and are) victims of racism and hate and that racial/ethnic diversity does have its downsides. You should give the same respect to whites (as a group) as you give to other races and ethnic groups. You should be more sympathetic to those whose words might sound like “hate” to you but are actually the product of frustration and anger. Would you condemn a Native American for spewing venom about whites in the late 19th century after his village had been pillaged and his womenfolk raped? The only way you can bridge the gap between those you wish to convert and yourselves is to try to see things from their perspective – to be more tolerant and understanding.

From a statement on the website,published 12/13/2008:
‘DARE.COM is a forum site and will publish writers of any persuasion who are critical of America’s immigration disaster….We have taken great risks by publishing writers like Jared Taylor and the late Sam Francis, who can fairly be described as “white nationalists” in the sense that they aim to defend the interests of American whites’.

I for one, could care less if the ‘white’ race becomes a minority in America. I grew up in a city that had a racial make up of 70% black and 30% white. I was in the 30% that made up whites, so I’ve long been in the minority when it comes to race. So, therefore, I’m not particularly threatened by different races, but, apparently some people are.

Yes, in part. It’s in part a value judgment. One I will stand by. Who’s to dispute it? You? A third party? The elite?

That’s the subjective pole. But there is an objective one too. In the words of the blogger “Thomas Paine”, Anglo-Celt culture is:

. . . a culture of tolerance, mutual respect, and good humour. A culture which involves profound affection and respect for the language, history, literature and peoples of these (Anglo-Celt) islands (and their colonies). A culture which includes the works of some of the greatest dramatists, novelists and poets the world has ever known. A culture open to new influences while firmly rooted in the history of European Christendom. A culture steeped in the concepts and traditions of the English Common Law. A culture which embraces a spirit of fair play. A culture which involves freedom of speech and thought, and a robustly contemptuous view of all those small-minded individuals who would seek to limit that freedom. A culture which respects its traditions of thought sufficiently NOT to pervert language in order to turn a phrase like “celebrating difference” into a euphemism for “submitting to intolerance.” A culture which is rich and multidimensional and which can neither be defined in few words in a comment box, nor dismissed with a knee-jerk, thoughtless, rant by some semi-educated leftist about “colonialism” and “racism”.

And since when did whites “own” European descent?

Perhaps you can point out where I said they did.

You can’t “own” anything when it comes to biology, esp. human biology. The latter remark suggests that you believe in the old racist idea that one’s race is a biological thing when it is (in fact) a cultural idea that varies from country to country. With what I’ve just said in mind, tell me: How do you account for the different perceptions of racial across all cultures? If you really know a lot on the issue, then you should be able to find some sort of explanation right?

With what in “mind”? Your deconstructionism? My good man, don’t you think you should at least try proving post-modernism before you insist that I be bound by its terms? In case you hadn’t realized, most people these days are laughing at your notions.

So, back to the point then: that descent is worth defending, because it is good (subjectively and objectively so), and because it is ours (though not exclusively ours, as something we “own”). And that doesn’t mean that races and associated cultural traditions aren’t good, though by that I don’t mean to imply some sort of equivalence theory. But *ours* is *good*, warts and all. And I for one won’t be shamed in the least by you culturally homeless lefty morons.

So smoke that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel

“He is best remembered for winning the Battle of Tours (also known as the Battle of Poitiers) in 732, which has traditionally been characterized as an event that halted the Islamic expansionism in Europe that had conquered Iberia. ‘Charles’s victory has often been regarded as decisive for world history, since it preserved western Europe from Muslim conquest and Islamization.’”

Perhaps you’re longing for sharia, Hume’s Ghost?

Considering Martel’s significance to the far right (including the Charles Martel Society, which appears to be part of the intellectual circles the group’s founders travel in), I found that a bit disconcerting.

Sure. Because that descent is *ours,* and because it is *good.*

Clear it up any?

Despite being a regular visitor, I don’t usually post. This time I commented because I actually had something to add – and, admittedly, I wanted to defend a friend’s reputation from aspersions and criticisms that I felt were unfair and factually inaccurate. But I should think that would make other regulars happy. A comment section consisting entirely of “Yeah!”, “Those people are terrible!”, and “I agree with you!” is dull, uninformative, and quite pointless. Diversity of perspectives is tremendously valuable, even if some of it is due to “cloaked racists”. (Oh, and who gets to decide if I personally am a cloaked racist or not? I’d very much like to know if I’m a racist or not.)