These guys are NOT lefties. No way. No how.

Junkie Rush Limbaugh is using the Rovian propaganda technique of “projection”. He’s projecting this Right Wing problem onto the Left. This tactic is used to defuse your side’s worst weaknesses by accusing the other side of them.

Junkie Rush has already gone DEAF from taking too much hillbilly heroin. Now, it appears he also has BRAIN DAMAGE from taking too many Oxycontin.

We now know, thanks to a newly-released report from the Obama administration, that domestic terrorism is alive and well and living right next door to you.

And they’re bigger than the foreign terrorists. They’re sick psychotic freaks, well armed, and they’re already HERE.

Alberto Gonzales chose to IGNORE them because they were his boss’s political BASE.

The Republican party actively courts these sick demented domestic terrorist groups for votes.

There’s no National Slavery Museum in DC.

For anyone interested in learning more about the ACTUAL extreme right connections and ideas which motivated James W. Von Brunn, see my new report which is based, primarily, upon first-time-released FBI files and documents:

http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/vonbrunn

I don’t understand where you get the idea that I was bashing Obama. I, too, am very glad that we finally got the right man in the Oval Office.

Go back and read what I wrote VERY carefully.

Maybe I’ve got selective memory, but it seems to always be the right wing extremists doing and justifying the killings. Are there examples of left wing extremists urging or causing the death of those who don’t agree with them?

It’s really quite simple: Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and their ilk have been openly preaching since before the election that Obama’s victory spells “Marxism, Fascism,” and more or less destruction of America. They have implied that white males will now be persecuted more than ever. These ideas have been expressed at many of those idiotic tea party protests back in April. These pundits constantly spread fear, and when you listen to or watch conservative followers talk politics the underlying emotion one notices is fear- of foreigners, terrorism, and political terms they don’t understand, like Marxism.

Yet among them are people that, having believed and decided that America is indeed on its last legs, they are not going to sit down and take it. They are going to do something about it, and go out in a blaze of glory. If any of you conservatives still think that these people don’t get their ideas from pundits, look up the confession letter of the guy who shot up that Unitarian Church. All he did was take the rantings of people like Coulter and Savage to their logical conclusion. Indeed, if “liberals” are treasonous scum who are deliberately destroying one’s nation, wouldn’t it justify shooting them?

Hannity has been at it since before the inauguration, trying to conflate our President with fascism (which shows he has no idea what fascism is). Fascist is the word he actually uses to describe our President. Chances are that one of his loony listeners will try to make an attempt on President Obama’s life or (God, please forbid) actually assassinate him. What do you want to bet that Hannity will try to be dishonest to the point of saying, “Not me, I never used the word fascist.”

Thing is, Hannity knows he is using a roundabout way of telling his ghouls to go out and murder our President and he’s doing it purposely and deliberately, and when it is done he will lie about it and say, “Oops! Not my fault!”

Just like we were able to tie the acts of 19 highjackers on Sept. 11, 2001 to the hate speech of Osama bin Laden. The arguments that these Hannity/LimBa’al/Savage are making to attempt to distance themselves from these murderers, such as saying that they didn’t kill anybody, we didn’t enable this, is the same reasons that you can use, should you choose to do so, defend bin Laden. They can say, “bin Lauden never lilled anyone, either.” Thing is, hate speech is hate speech – if you get on the air and paint your target in colors of evil and dehumanize them, you give some hate-monger out there liscence to murder because they reason that their target and not human; case closed. Those on the FAUX News side are just as guilty as bin Laden, they fan the flames of hate then sit back and watch; the only difference is that bin Laden doesn’t try to distance himself from the act afterwards, so he’s the more honest of them.

Having just spent a week debating this new political spectrum idea on other websites, I would suggest that Laurens consider the following factual data:

The problem with Laurens’ proposed political spectrum is that persons (or organizations) which Laurens claims advance “extreme leftist” ideas — such as Hitler admirers — are often people who associate themselves with RIGHT WING causes, organizations, and ideas.

For example, many so-called “conservatives” or “patriot” groups recommend the writings of Eustace Mullins — especially his publications on the Federal Reserve—which Mr. Von Brunn almost certainly read, believed and recommended on his website.

Eustace Mullins is cited by the “patriot movement” as an indisputable “conservative” or right-winger. But Mullins wrote an article entitled “Hitler: An Appreciation” which was published in a 1952 issue of the National Renaissance Party Bulletin (an avowed fascist group!) — but that doesn’t stop gazillions of right-wingers from recommending him as a reliable source of information!

To see Mullins’ article and further details about the neo-fascist groups in the U.S. he was connected to, see this 1954 report by the House Committee On Un-American Activities:

http://debs.indstate.edu/u588n4_1954.pdf

Three additional problems with Lauren’s ideas:

(1) when you research the political campaigns of neo-nazis who have run for political office, their themes, ideas and policy proposals are predominantly RIGHT-WING — and in fact, the support they subsequently get (money, endorsements, publicity, votes, etc.) comes NOT from the LEFT, but from the RIGHT side of the political spectrum.

(2) when you review the recommended reading lists of neo-nazi groups, they often recommend and sell many of the SAME publications as the Birch Society or other extreme right-wing/conservative/patriot groups
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For example: the American Nazi Party used to recommend and sell John Stormer’s classic conspiracy book, “None Dare Call It Treason”—which the JBS effusively praised and sold in all its bookstores! [Stormer, a Goldwater supporter, was a Republican Party official in Missouri!]

(3) Furthermore, the founder and leader of the American Nazi Party (George Lincoln Rockwell) admired prominent right-wing heroes such as Sen. Joseph McCarthy. In fact, in 1952, Rockwell publicly supported Gen. Douglas MacArthur for President and he organized a pro-MacArthur rally in San Diego.

Nevertheless, Laurens wants us to believe that Rockwell belongs on the extreme left side of a political spectrum!

In the 1960′s, Rockwell invited John Birch Society members to attend a meeting of his in Dallas — because he thought they offered fertile ground for recruitment.

If Rockwell was truly “extreme left” why would he solicit support from the extreme right?

Last, but not least, the political spectrum advocated by Laurens has no way to explain the following:

ROBERT SURREY (hereafter RS)
RS and his wife (Mary) of Dallas TX were both Birch Society members. They both were employed by fellow Bircher, Gen. Edwin A. Walker of Dallas. Mary was Walker’s personal secretary and from 1961-1964 RS was Walker’s chief aide. RS also worked on Walker’s campaign for Governor of Texas.

In 1963, RS and Walker entered into a partnership as co-owners of American Eagle Publishing Company. The company’s pamphlets were stored at Walker’s home. They published all the standard Birch Society arguments against the UN, against Council on Foreign Relations, against the Warren Court, and against the policies and programs of Presidents John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson.

In November 1963, RS authored the “Wanted For Treason” handbill (re: JFK) which was circulated on the streets of Dallas a few days before Kennedy’s assassination.

RS also was President and Chairman of the Board of United White Christians Majority. The group was conceived by George Lincoln Rockwell to obtain funds for the American Nazi Party from persons who might otherwise not wish to be directly associated with the ANP (in short, it was an ANP front-group). In May 1968, RS became Southwest Regional Coordinator and National Business Manager for the American Nazi Party.

Many other Birch Society members or supporters involved themselves in neo-nazi activities and/or promoted neo-nazi themes including anti-zionism arguments.

For example, here are some “graduates” from the Birch Society:

George P. Dietz (Liberty Bell Publications—the largest U.S. distributor of neo-nazi literature in the U.S. during the 1960′s-1990′s), Tom Metzger (White Aryan Resistance), William P. Gale (Ministry of Christ Church), Ben Klassen (Church of the Creator), Kevin Strom (National Vanguard), Willis Carto (Liberty Lobby and founder of holocaust denial group, Institute For Historical Review), Gordon Kahl (Posse Comitatus) Robert J. Mathews (who created The Order and commited bank and armored car robberies in order to finance Aryan Nations and other similar white supremacist and neo-nazi enterprises) and William Pierce (Pierce joined the American Nazi Party in 1966 and was Editor of National Socialist World, the quarterly journal of Rockwell’s World Union of National Socialists. In 1968, Pierce became second in command of the National Socialist White People’s Party (formerly known as American Nazi Party) but he left in July 1970 to work for Willis Carto’s National Youth Alliance which he wrested away from Carto in 1974 and re-named it National Alliance.)

As all of the above data should make obvious, EVEN IF your ideology CLAIMS to be “anti-communist” or “anti-Marxist”, or “anti-collectivist” [which Laurens thinks places you on the OPPOSITE side of the spectrum from nazism-fascism-communism] nevertheless that means nothing in terms of
* where you seek support,
* whom you admire,
* what authors and publications you recommend as reliable, or
* what political alliances you are prepared to make

Of COURSE.

It’s not about liberal vs conservative – it’s about power. Period. Always was. Call it a zillions names and get the ignoranti to blog about it ad nauseum – give them a tool called the Internet to keep them occupied and trackable – instead of marching the streets, exercising their “freedoms”…

I prefer to address the larger philosophical issue which appears in your comments (and Lauren’s):

Different types of the same thing can have materially important distinguishing features which make them incompatible with one another. For example: All humans have blood, but if you are given the wrong blood type, you die.

It is important for us to recognize materially important distinctions if we are to understand ourselves and human history correctly.

All political extremists may share common attitudes and may suffer from the same type of intellectual and moral deficiencies – but, nevertheless, they do have unique distinguishing features which render them incompatible with each other.

Consequently, they cannot be grouped together upon a political spectrum if you want to truly understand what motivates people to gravitate toward their candidates, ideas, and proposals and if you want to understand why a specific targeted audience becomes receptive to such candidates, ideas, and proposals.

Advocating government intervention in some matter is not a sufficient basis for making a decision about where one belongs upon a political spectrum.

Anybody can select ONE single criterion and then propose we elevate that ONE criterion as the single most important determinant for placement upon a political spectrum — but that artificially forces us to interpret all human behavior and human motives in a manner which distorts reality.

Get a load of THIS comment (followed by May’s response), posted by Von Brunn to May’s “Ghost Troop” yahoogroup,which calls for a group of “five or six well equipped martyrs” to take action against our government:

http://ca.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop…

Re: Pravda Article – WTC and Bush

james von brunn wrote:

BY THE WAY, YOU’RE A VERY FINE WRITER, AMONG OTHER VIRTUES.

I’m of the opinion that only a military coup d’etat can save our once great Republic. And soon. However, a coup is doubtful as the military too has been infected by the Marxist/Liberal/Jew virus.

Perhaps we must settle for a team of Special
Forces, say six (6) well-equipped martyrs. Count me in.
jvb
http://www.holywesternempire.org
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I’m most obliged at your praise, Mr. Von Brunn! Writers always have their vanities, even when they’re doing military missions. For what it’s worth, I called for a military coup d’etat on the night of July 28, 2005, when the Bush Boyz tried to blow up Texas City last time.

You can find it in an article published shortly afterwards at http://www.vfvs.com/GhostTroopCaptainEricMay.html or you can listen to it as I called for it, in the second of the two interviews at http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Captain%20Ma…

Again, thanks for the encouragement. I’m sure that you’ve endured the same kinds of frustrations that I have in the course of your infowar, whenever it began. I’d sure like to turn the Texas City Inquest into a public tribunal for the Jewish Zionists and the Bush Boyz who took their advice and used their media like (embedded) whores. Yours, CPTMAY

The fact is that there is no such thing as “government” separate from the private sector. You simply can’t have private property rights and capitalism without a state to enforce contracts and defend the owners’ rights of private property- that is the right to the fruit of YOUR labor. Because the system is class based, and involves the exploitation of the majority by a minority, there needs to be a system of organized violence to maintain the status quo- enter the state.

The thing is that the big capitalists never believe any of this BS about “government” being inherently evil. They are smart enough to understand that government is a powerful tool which they can manipulate through their greater access to the system(through lawyers, lobbyists, etc.). All of these people know that were it not for the government, they would have to somehow pay for many services essential to maintaining a healthy, minimally educated workforce, and naturally they aren’t inclined to do so.

Lastly, if you think government intervention is so horrible, you might want to ask why the US, with its neo-liberal policies and rejection of the welfare state model, is almost lowest among industrialized nations for heath care, highest for infant mortality, etc. People living in those so called “socialist” European nations work less, get FAR more for their tax dollars(Americans get missiles and aircraft carriers, and more wars), and surveys show they are far more satisfied and happy with their lives than Americans. It is also worth noting that privatization actually ends up costing the taxpayers more, because it puts a profit motive on government waste. Take a look at Halliburton and all the missing billions thrown down that money hole.

Allan McConnell
president, RADAR13.com

More often than not government control policies, while made in the name of regulation and equality, end up creating governmental monopolies that are harder to break up than private ones. The belief that politicians, left or right wing, will go uncorrupt throughout there tenure of power, is a very idealistic tenant to hold.Because if you expect the government to take care of you, unchecked, your more naive than those you accuse of thus.

First, by way of preface, Laurens is NOT the originator of this new conception of a political spectrum. It has been floating around in extreme right circles for decades and is promoted particularly by the John Birch Society.

The fundamental underlying premise is that government is our mortal enemy. Therefore, the more government intervention in our lives, the more it controls or regulates human affairs, the less freedom exists and the more opportunity for tyranny to flourish.

Consequently, seen from this perspective, the worst violators of human freedom and dignity during the 20th century were those governments which maximized government intervention, i.e. totalitarian dictatorships — and Laurens (and other believers in this idea) don’t see much point in distinguishing between nazi-fascist versus communist ideology since they BOTH resulted in horrific crimes against humanity.

However, the REAL purpose behind this proposed new idea of a political spectrumis to create an “enemies list”.

Everything decent, honorable, moral and desirable is placed in the middle or the right side of the spectrum whereas everything that the extreme right wants us to believe is despicable, dishonorable, frightening and dangerous belongs EXCLUSIVELY upon the LEFT side of the spectrum.

Therefore, collectivists/statists of all kinds (i.e. anyone who advocates utilizing government coercion to accomplish anything in society) which consists of liberals, socialists, communists, fascists, nazis) are “the enemy” of human freedom.