The National “Socialist” German Workers’ Party (Nazi Party) ruled Germany from 1933 until 1945

Following the Italians’ example, the Nazis attempted a “March on Berlin” to topple the Weimar Republic, which they characterized as “Marxist”

However…

QUOTE: “Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak” …

QUOTE: “Following World War II, the word fascist has become a slur throughout the political spectrum. In contemporary political discourse, some adherents of political ideologies on both the left and right wings of the political spectrum associate fascism with their political enemies, or define it as the opposite of their own views” …

QUOTE: “Fascist movements commonly follow the social Darwinist view that in order for nations and races to survive in a world defined by perpetual national and racial conflict, nations and races must purge themselves of socially and biologically weak or degenerate people while simultaneously promoting the creation of strong people”

QUOTE: “The Fascist government in Italy banned literature on birth control and increased penalties on abortion in 1926, declaring them both crimes against the state”

QUOTE: “almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’”. – George Orwell …

And the list goes on…

Which best describes the “Neo-Nazi” movement?

I’ve heard Obama called “socialist”, “communist”, “Marxist” “Facist” and being compared to Hitler. By the same so-called educated radio talk show hosts. Which is it? Or do they even know? Some of their listeners obviously don’t

However, I would, at this time, like to thank all those young people who are so active in supporting this administration in it’s efforts to grow the Government in order to improve our lives The things we do today are now your responsibility to pay. I just want you young folks to know….America Appreciates It.

Glad to hear of your success.

Since your business is so prosperous you can be especially proud of your tax contributions to your fellow Americans.

That was the unions, buddy.

Now to answer your question: “Are we really free today?” And I answer No. At least not on this network where one is lumped in with the KKK with NO just cause whatsoever. Free? Not Here. Not among the Hateful.

I believe they are useless terms that are currently popular only so that the critical issues of government get buried under flim flam.

If Americans really are of two separate philosophies, they are these: 1. Every man for himself, or, 2. Let’s all help those who sometimes need a helping hand.

What does that mean anyway? What’s a whipping flame, beside the definition you quote, from your own poem?

Maybe I have been too sheltered?

So why don’t you just anwer my question? I asked you if you had ever traveled outside of the town you were born in. A simple yes or no would have sufficed.

Instead, you attack Socialism, without any evidence of really having any knowledge of how the system works when it does work, which is very well.

Also, when you say you prefer Individual Freedom to Socialism, I’m just curious…

Do you really think we are free today?

Our rights are being tampered with constantly.
If you don’t defend them or speak out against the growing appetite of government to infringe on our personal life, like the now famous Patriot Act, you lose them.

Really.

Listen…this is a hot-potatoe issue. Neither side, not left nor right, wants to claim these racist factions in America. And why should we? To label them Right-wing and Left-wing only widens the margins of hate…playing right into their hands.

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So far you are still only tossing labels around in regard to what you feel is a wrong-headed world view.

Kindly tell us what you consider similar about the philosophies of Nazis as compared to what you are calling “socialists.” Also, I would like to discover what you believe a whipping flame is.

“…racist agenda…accomplished…far-left framework like Socialism…”

Where did you snatch that bit of information from?

Have you ever traveled?
Around the US?
Canada?
Sweden?
Denmark?
Greece?

Been to any of those countries lately?

4 out of 5 run Socialized medicine programs.
Now you may say Socialized medicine programs stink, and point to Canada, and the complaints from the North of us?

Let me tell you something>

I’ve been to ALL of those countries that have Socialized medicine, Socialist Democracies, they’re called, if you want to get picky. And maybe Canada’s isn’t the best. Neither is Greece’s.

But you must remember something.

These countries have a system that takes care of ALL people, regardless of status or wealth, and so their services are heavily used, and sometimes, or sometimes even too often, it’s a fast paced system, because so many patients are being seen.

Still, what impressed me the most about these systems is that people were treated equally. In other words, ALL people are entitled to good health care. It is something these countries believe in. Not like here.

So if Canada is at the bottom, the country at the top of the list is Denmark. I can talk and talk and talk about the wonders of their medical system and facilities and top notch specialist, entire departments devoted to angioplasty, for example.

Denmark is the Cadillac of Medicine.

No country, especially in Europe and the America, comes anywhere near to producing the services available in Denmark.

Check it out.

Gotta go,
Mister or Missus.

I finally googled it and the first link to pop up was a report by DHS, which, has in fact, established criteria for what constitutes a leftwing extremist.

I was extremely surprised by their report. Only 2 of 9 pages is available for viewing, and the document is a PDF.

I think the designations and conclusions, however, are tenuous, at best. And, somewhat undemocratic.

See for yourself.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/left.pdf

I believe there is a common outlaw element in all kinds of political extremism, namely, the use of force and violent destruction to get attention and to promote in an entire population the reaction that former president Bush called “shock and awe.”

That technique was the means by which Hitler’s Nazi supremacists decided to take over all of Europe during World War 2. It came close to working for them except that fear and hatred always spreads throughout radical societies to the point that the people are robbed of everything that is good in their lives. Too much wealth gets spent on military weapons and none on anything else that supports, educates or nourishes the inhabitants themselves.

I believe that broadcasters like we have seen on Fox news have used and are using similar techniques of speech to set American citizens against each other by using suspicion and fear to promote disrespect for the calmer and more reasonable voices in political speech.

It is so much easier to destroy a community that is divided.

You know those types will always be with us and they include those who actually believe they have prospered without any help from anyone else in the world.

I believe that we need to keep the comments going about every kind of discrimination and to come down hard on people who think they can get away with it in the 21st century.

Our entire system has been divided into haves and have-nots, and that is a disgrace that will take everyone’s efforts to erase.

Do you links to the precise exchange between the scholar and police? Because I sure would like to read them. I still don’t have any idea what the whole story is. Too many things seem to be missing.

For example, I think I saw one quote by the officer that was later found to be untrue. And even though it’s significant, I can’t remember it now!!! Damn. But the slight alteration was significant to the overall story.

Next, the officer quoted from his report, and claimed that the scholar said the following…

“I’ll speak with your mama outside.”

My initial reaction to this was laughter. Not light laughter. But the kind that comes from the belly. The kind that hurts.

I thought it was a beautiful response on the part of the scholar, but it also revealed something of his cultural heritage, which I found amusing, because it was such an apt statement to make, but it’s more like something a kid would say, instead of a scholar. And therein lay the humor in that part of the story.

Plus, I seriously doubt the officer would fabricate that kind of statement. It’s just too out there.

The Police Department decided to release all relevant tapes, and claimed that the scholar could be heard yelling in the background, while the officer tried to communicate to Central.

But when I listened to tape, I didn’t hear ANYBODY yelling in the background.

The woman who made the 911 call never identified the men through their racial identity, and it doesn’t seem like the officer who arrived approached it as a racial incident.

So.

What happened when the officer arrived?
What happened that provoked this outburst?

I can’t imagine a man of such stature and knowledge and experience being a racist. Or to even use that in a situation which probably could have been peaceably settled, without ANY publicity.

Like I said, too many questions about this story, make it a story that hasn’t been told yet, completely and fully.

Something that would make it soundproof.

Waiting.

For the rest of the story.

on July 28th, 2009 at 3:09 am

Hate groups…it becomes ultra-clear that left-sided ideologies have inspired more hate and violence resulting in the most deaths, as compared to the right.

This is indisputable.
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Can you just back-up a bit? And tells us about your sources for these claims?

Actually, as someone who grew up in Hyde Park, Chicago, which is a racially diverse community, and has been for years and years and years…

The only response I can come up with to your claim, is that it has been an incredible eye opener, to see the emergence of racial feelings, since the election of our President.

Now, that’s something that’s out there.

Proof is Holocaust Museum.

Proof is death of law enforcement officials by people who are obsessed with racial hatred and fear.

Proof is Hispanics who are targeted as the objects of people’s hatred.

But oddly enough, unless you think this is also a conspiracy, there is no news of left-wing extremists.

Nada.

I mean who are these people?
Do they have any presence on the web, as do White Supremacists, for example?

I don’t know…
This a mystery to me.

And I need to solve it!

It’s odd how arguments posed by second poster, I think, almost sound cogent. In one respect these people are right. They should not be targeted exclusively. All miscreants should be targeted. So, in that respect, their point is valid.

The difficulty comes when someone fails to cite a specific source for their information. For example, where are these left-wing extremists?

And I’m sure, if there was such a thing, then SPLC would be on it.

When our Congress finally apologized a little while back about slavery, we lost an important opportunity to make reparations to the descendents of slaves.

I believe America is ready to address its past, even as racism and bigotry evolve into anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant hate. One way we could do this on more than a symbolic level is to sponsor scholarships to help mend the long term, multigenerational consequences of four hundred years of slavery. The civil rights movement may have managed to curtail outright discrimination in many ways, but it did not give back what was taken.

The same is true for Native Americans, Chinese persecuted in the 1800s, Japanese interned during WWII and South Asians persecuted today.

They should know that attitude is the most prominent feature of prejudice and also the proof of it.

Some people will extend that idea (that their victims are criminals) to even the persons who are teaching against prejudice itself. Perhaps that is why whippingflame is so convinced that there is something wrong with people who fight against the wrong-headedness of prejudice.

We must remember that our personal suspicion is not proof of any crime.

This is indisputable.