Health care costs are debilitating businesses and the economy in general (have been for a while). All of a sudden a “grass-roots movement” pops up and wants us to stand up for the mega-insurance companies and drug companies that are a major source of the problem?

Without addressing the debilitating impact of medical costs for businesses and individuals, we can never really tackle our economic problems. No, we don’t have to become socialist to solve these problems, just rachet-down the greed a bit. A five dollar pill shouldn’t cost $50, so some smuck can have a million dollar bonus! Obama is absolutely right: Enough!

In other words, Obama was born in Hawaii. This document is sufficient proof. Case closed.

Actually, no. There is only one journalistic code of ethics for ALL news media. Even the internet.

Either you’re an ethical journalist or you aren’t. There’s no seperate, looser code of ethics for CNN, MSNBC or FOX News.

Lou Dobbs may have been a good journalist back in the day, but he isn’t anymore.

People and the media both need to realize, total freedom of speech and press can be a double edged sword. I would encourage people and media to think about what it is they’re doing to human beings before they start harping and whining and smearing whomever it is they’re targeting. Are you really doing the American people together as a whole any good?

Have facts, cold hard facts before you start smearing. Not what you think, or what you’ve heard, or what you hope or wish, but cold hard facts. That way, the only stirring of the pot will be facts that are true and you’re not trying to divide a house against itself.

When the media does some of the stuff that it does, all it does is create division, not unity!

So Robert Cohen can whine about Lou Dobbs, but until media realizes as a whole what they do to individuals and people who lead our country, we will always have division.

You are so right. This is a non-issue. However, when Clinton, right-wing conspiracy nuts were looking anywhere they could to find a way to remove him from office; they still haven’t gotten it through their thick heads that it is almost impossible to legally remove a sitting President. We know, it was proven that Bush stole both the 2000 and 2004 elections and we still couldn’t get rid of the SOB. How much more difficult is it going to be to unseat a legally elected and popular President? Yet, people buy into this BS because they want to prove he is from Mars, etc, etc, and they waste time and money that would be better spent solving REAL problems.

When you encounter these people, ask them, “By your standards, can you prove that YOU were born in the US?”

CNN researchers to dug into the question of why Obama couldn’t produce the original birth certificate: The Hawaii Health Dept. confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. This would include President Obama’s original birth certificate, along with everyone else born in Hawaii.

The truth about the president’s birth has been verified by Factcheck.org, among many other serious news organizations, and his official birth documents have been made public. CNN itself has repeatedly reported on the falsity of the claims of the “birthers,” and the network’s esteemed legal analyst, Jeffrey Toobin, recently called those claims “a joke.”

I was born in California. I needed a copy of my birth certificate to obtain a passport. All they sent me was a “certificate of live birth.” Do some of you think I am not a citizen because I cannot produce a “birth certificate”? My family settled in this country in 1742 and several of my ggggg grandfathers fought in the Revolutionary War! But I cannot produce a “birth certificate”!

I think the birthers’ real complaint is that a black man with an African name won the presidency –so they are trying to find a way to tear him down. I know this to be the case because there are several birthers in my own family. There is no talking sense to them.

Since, unlike Clinton, Obama is a faithful husband, and since they tried but could not make the “he is friends with terrorists” stick, they are trying to say that he isn’t really an American citizen. And the stupid masses who hate having a black president follow the groupthink of the wingnut herd, including some very bigoted members of my own extended family.

REAL Americans are SMART!

I think that Americans elected Barack Obama because they saw him as the right man for the job, and because they are smart enough to see through the smoke-screen put in place by the right-wing spin machine. As for the “birthers”, that is just more of that same spin machine spinning its wheels, but in vain.

I by the way support free speech — but that doesn’t mean I’m comfortable with extremism — or the type of insanity that allows people to think that the state of Hawaii is in some sort of conspiracy to protect one man. Where did the one million dollar figure come from? Hmmm — show me proof of that (not a Right wing website – actual proof).

Get over yourselves people. ANYONE can win the presidency with a little luck and some charisma, that’s the idea of the country — sorry you don’t like him, live with it.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones

I looked it up before posting, The quote I used was from Mark Twain not Abraham Lincoln.

My point being, know your facts before looking the fool. If in doubt look it up before joining the fool’s chorus of the ill informed

Someone used my usurper phrase and then linked it to the GOP and crack. I used the usurper phrase earlier, bu I am not a Republican, so I am unsure what the reply was suppose to be about-I think when Allen mentioned my phrase, he assumed I was somehow linked to the GOP, which I have never been associated with in any shape or form whatsoever…

As far ‘tokenism’ is concerned, I am unsure if Colin Powell, or even Alan Keyes, would consider themselves token Republicans.

But it is true- if a conservative black were suddenly put into the White House, the vast majority of Republicans would be happy.

Let us not forget: Liberals have there own racial priorities. Many whites and blacks supported Obama for racial reasons. Obama got many of his votes BECAUSE he was black. Ordinarily, a Republican presidential candidate gets about 10-12% of the vote…McCain only got about 5% of the black vote…which means that about 5% of black voters made there choice based along a racial motive.

Several million whites-esp. the under 30 set- supported Obama, at least in part, BECAUSE he was black. They loved the idea of partly being able to rectify the bad historical legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. If Obama had been white, several million of his supporters would not have been as sympathetic or enthusiastic to his campaign-many of them would have stayed home on election night… But because of who Obama was, they were able to disregard the fact that he voted to renew the Patriot Act, and that he voted to expand warrant less wiretapping of innocent Americans…and they now overlook that every highly placed member of his administration is either a corporate lobbyist, or a huge beneficiary of lobbyist money…He has vastly expanded the war in Afghanistan, and continues to unnecessarily threaten Russia with the eastern Europe missile shield. Obama ran the most secretive campaign in US history (no baptismal record, and no college records were released at all)
He is almost wholly owned by the New York Federal Reserve, as evidenced by his willingness to give them over a trillion dollars, money that didn’t really exist before…most of which was wired into Hedge Fund accounts and disappeared forever. His seeks the authority to pull the plug on the entire internet (Rockefeller’s Cybersecurty Act)…and he will almost certainly get around to raising taxes on average people. His appointment of various policy Czars is 100% unconstitutional.

During the recent Gaza war, Obama said nothing, while Israel used an entire region for target practice, wounding over one million Gazan inhabitants…(some Gaza youth were firing glorified bottle rockets across the border…for this, Israel brutally attacked , and Obama kept his mouth shut while phosphorus gas was used on children)

Given these realties concerning Obama, is it any wonder that some of his opponents seize upon byzantine evidence that he unqualified for the office, and insist that he step down right now?

Not that it makes any difference to our debate, but I’ve heard that same quote before as coming from Abraham Lincoln.

Honestly, I don’t have the time in my day to counter-point all the right-winger’s statements. I have bigger fish to fry. The American people are starting to figure things out about this puny and irrelevent minority that make themselves look big by screaming and cussing loudly to get people’s attention. Oh, and by blowing things up, like they tend to do.

You say President Obama is a defacto president – you must be kidding! George W. Bush was the defacto president because he stole the election – everyone knows Gore won, but Bush’s buddies in the Supreme Court – Rehnquist, Scalia and that obsequious fool, Thomas, put him in office. Talk about judicial activism – Judge Sotomayor will not come anywhere close to what these idiots did to usurp Democracy.

My reason for posting the Newsmax item was tongue in cheek. Are you saying that there is no point in keeping tabs on a far reaching Republican media source? Sorry to say, but I think Republican party – oriented individuals’ opinions are pretty much aligned with Newsmax.

…And almost all of the opponents of Obama on the “right” would be glad to trade him for a qualified black conservative or moderate, such as Colin Powell…. the vast majority of Obama opponents are not opposed to him because of race, so you people on the so called “left “need to stop using that argument as a club. Obama may be the de facto president, but he is still a usurper.

PS- I voted for Nader

AP said,
on July 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 am
“How do these people think Obama ever obtained a U.S. passport?”

And I It all boils down to fundamental racism. Dobbs, get over it — the president IS black and a US citizen

on July 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm

To all the Lou Dobbs personality clones and Obama haters out there — the President has provided proof of his birth certificate – CASE CLOSED!.
????? OBUMMER has not provided any proof and he is not MY PRESIDENT!!!!! Stop telling what to do, what to say, what to think and who I should bow down to.
DONT TREAD ON ME!!!!!!!