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	<title>Comments on: SPLC Asks CNN to Remove Dobbs</title>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-136050</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reggie,

You are either lying or had the most stupid bureaucrat in America. My daughter and I both have birth certificates that were original. Mine, which was hand written has all kinds of info on it. My daughters doesn&#039;t even have her time of birth. These certificates were 24 years apart and in different states. Now, both of us have ordered and received the Certificate of Live Birth that we have needed for official stuff like our passports, school, etc. I keep the originals in a safe deposit box. I cannot ever get a copy of the original as they have all been destroyed and the pertinent info computerized. ( Do we really need to record my mothers &quot;profession&quot;  as a homemaker?) When you order birth certificates today, You get a certificate of live birth. I know this not only from my personal experience, but it is my job to help my clients obtain theirs for official govt. business. 
I was not, and none of my passport carrying friends have EVER been asked for a &quot;birth picture&quot;. Also, we never had &quot;official birth pictures&quot; taken. This is just plain silliness.

Lastly, If you are a college professor, you are painfully ignorant of your country and its citizens. I guess you only took one history class that missed a few bits. The Dominican Republic was once briefly occupied by the US, but was never a territory or other &quot;holding&quot; of the US. Puerto Rico, however is. Puerto Ricans, as were Hawaiians for over 100 years have been and are full legal citizens. In case you don&#039;t remember even the historical movies about Pearl Harbor, We considered the island US soil. It&#039;s citizens were US citizens. 

BTW, My Puerto Rican born father in law was stationed in Hawaii as he served as a Lt. Col. in the US Air Force. You gonna tell him he&#039;s not a real citizen too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reggie,</p>
<p>You are either lying or had the most stupid bureaucrat in America. My daughter and I both have birth certificates that were original. Mine, which was hand written has all kinds of info on it. My daughters doesn&#8217;t even have her time of birth. These certificates were 24 years apart and in different states. Now, both of us have ordered and received the Certificate of Live Birth that we have needed for official stuff like our passports, school, etc. I keep the originals in a safe deposit box. I cannot ever get a copy of the original as they have all been destroyed and the pertinent info computerized. ( Do we really need to record my mothers &#8220;profession&#8221;  as a homemaker?) When you order birth certificates today, You get a certificate of live birth. I know this not only from my personal experience, but it is my job to help my clients obtain theirs for official govt. business.<br />
I was not, and none of my passport carrying friends have EVER been asked for a &#8220;birth picture&#8221;. Also, we never had &#8220;official birth pictures&#8221; taken. This is just plain silliness.</p>
<p>Lastly, If you are a college professor, you are painfully ignorant of your country and its citizens. I guess you only took one history class that missed a few bits. The Dominican Republic was once briefly occupied by the US, but was never a territory or other &#8220;holding&#8221; of the US. Puerto Rico, however is. Puerto Ricans, as were Hawaiians for over 100 years have been and are full legal citizens. In case you don&#8217;t remember even the historical movies about Pearl Harbor, We considered the island US soil. It&#8217;s citizens were US citizens. </p>
<p>BTW, My Puerto Rican born father in law was stationed in Hawaii as he served as a Lt. Col. in the US Air Force. You gonna tell him he&#8217;s not a real citizen too?</p>
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		<title>By: Liesl</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-135810</link>
		<dc:creator>Liesl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you teach, how to write as if you are absolutely not a college professor?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you teach, how to write as if you are absolutely not a college professor?</p>
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		<title>By: Reggie Cornejo</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-135531</link>
		<dc:creator>Reggie Cornejo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this argument.  Of who or what is citizen of the US.  I am a college professor, yes, just like Mr Obama, and a minority, just like Obama, but this is where I part company from this man that is too vague and elisive for my comfort. I grew up wanting to be a &quot;Muck Raker&quot; when I first learned about these reporter heroes of the days when America stood for laws and citizens who obeye them.  I grew up believing that breaking laws was not good for our country or the people. Thanks to politicians like Cheney, Obama and others, breaking the law now seems to be the acceptable norm, much like the later days before the Roman Empire fell. IF Mr Obama is a LEGAL citizen, in my book, he has not shown me enough to prove it. And, I quote, from legal resources, &quot;We need your daughter&#039;s county stamped full birthcertificate before we an issue a US passport so your daughter can leave the US and travel to Japan.  What was my mistake? I had sent the US Department of Passports, my daughter&#039;s Ceritificate of live birth that showed the same info as OBama&#039;s and even her birth picture. According to this department of the US government, &quot;a certificate of live birth is not a legal document to get a US Passport. So, unless Obama shows me his real long typed long form Birth Certificate, he is a fake American, so says the US government. One more thing, Obama took a full year before he registered for the Draft, so he broke the law by not registering.  One more thing, if Obama was born in Hawaii in before 1958 (when Hawaii was NOT a state), then he is not a US citizen just like people who are born in the Domincan Republic a holding of the US, like Hawaii was when Obama was born, which according to Obama was not 1961 but 1957.  SO, from my newspaper type research, this man is an immigrant, sorry, but facts are facts, and America has been robbed yet, another law breaker. But heck, America is now made up of students who cheat in school, people who lie on their taxes, people who cheat on their partners, people who lie to their God, People who want to make America an Un-Christian nation, and a government that serves the ones with the most money and anyone who is willing to buy a politician&#039;s vote, and a court system that favors law breaking illegal immigrants who come to America to destroy her. I figure America will be dead by the year 2020.  Sorry, but if history taught me anything in college, it&#039;s that history does repeat itself. We are another Rome, that is headed to the end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this argument.  Of who or what is citizen of the US.  I am a college professor, yes, just like Mr Obama, and a minority, just like Obama, but this is where I part company from this man that is too vague and elisive for my comfort. I grew up wanting to be a &#8220;Muck Raker&#8221; when I first learned about these reporter heroes of the days when America stood for laws and citizens who obeye them.  I grew up believing that breaking laws was not good for our country or the people. Thanks to politicians like Cheney, Obama and others, breaking the law now seems to be the acceptable norm, much like the later days before the Roman Empire fell. IF Mr Obama is a LEGAL citizen, in my book, he has not shown me enough to prove it. And, I quote, from legal resources, &#8220;We need your daughter&#8217;s county stamped full birthcertificate before we an issue a US passport so your daughter can leave the US and travel to Japan.  What was my mistake? I had sent the US Department of Passports, my daughter&#8217;s Ceritificate of live birth that showed the same info as OBama&#8217;s and even her birth picture. According to this department of the US government, &#8220;a certificate of live birth is not a legal document to get a US Passport. So, unless Obama shows me his real long typed long form Birth Certificate, he is a fake American, so says the US government. One more thing, Obama took a full year before he registered for the Draft, so he broke the law by not registering.  One more thing, if Obama was born in Hawaii in before 1958 (when Hawaii was NOT a state), then he is not a US citizen just like people who are born in the Domincan Republic a holding of the US, like Hawaii was when Obama was born, which according to Obama was not 1961 but 1957.  SO, from my newspaper type research, this man is an immigrant, sorry, but facts are facts, and America has been robbed yet, another law breaker. But heck, America is now made up of students who cheat in school, people who lie on their taxes, people who cheat on their partners, people who lie to their God, People who want to make America an Un-Christian nation, and a government that serves the ones with the most money and anyone who is willing to buy a politician&#8217;s vote, and a court system that favors law breaking illegal immigrants who come to America to destroy her. I figure America will be dead by the year 2020.  Sorry, but if history taught me anything in college, it&#8217;s that history does repeat itself. We are another Rome, that is headed to the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-108549</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to add to the discussion about the &quot;birthers&quot; and make an important distinction between the two different types of birthers. 

The first and most problematic are the ones like Dobbs and the Republicans who do know better and are using the same tactics they used to go to wars, pass the Patriot Act, rile the masses into being afraid of death panels instead of having a fair discussion on health care. They KNOW they truth and distort and LIE to get what they want. I think that they are guilty of treason.

The other birthers are people who are ignorant and believe the authority figures who are lying to them. It is hard to understand how people can be so ignorant, but they are. Some even think that they are doing &quot;research&quot; on the internet to prove they are right. Of course they don&#039;t know HOW to do proper research and do find LOTS of sites claiming what they keep hearing. My neighbor is a lay birther. He REALLY doesn&#039;t understand how the world works. He isn&#039;t stupid either. He&#039;s just woefully ignorant of almost everything that could help him come to a good judgment. I tried to explain the truth, and he was willing to listen to me respectfully. He is still not sure he can believe me because I am just his neighbor. In my argument to him I am battling Fox, CNN, Republican leadership, his friends and his preacher. It sure would be easier if it was only his friends and preacher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to add to the discussion about the &#8220;birthers&#8221; and make an important distinction between the two different types of birthers. </p>
<p>The first and most problematic are the ones like Dobbs and the Republicans who do know better and are using the same tactics they used to go to wars, pass the Patriot Act, rile the masses into being afraid of death panels instead of having a fair discussion on health care. They KNOW they truth and distort and LIE to get what they want. I think that they are guilty of treason.</p>
<p>The other birthers are people who are ignorant and believe the authority figures who are lying to them. It is hard to understand how people can be so ignorant, but they are. Some even think that they are doing &#8220;research&#8221; on the internet to prove they are right. Of course they don&#8217;t know HOW to do proper research and do find LOTS of sites claiming what they keep hearing. My neighbor is a lay birther. He REALLY doesn&#8217;t understand how the world works. He isn&#8217;t stupid either. He&#8217;s just woefully ignorant of almost everything that could help him come to a good judgment. I tried to explain the truth, and he was willing to listen to me respectfully. He is still not sure he can believe me because I am just his neighbor. In my argument to him I am battling Fox, CNN, Republican leadership, his friends and his preacher. It sure would be easier if it was only his friends and preacher.</p>
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		<title>By: aaarg</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-108408</link>
		<dc:creator>aaarg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a new group out there called the deathers.  It&#039;s led by senator grassley of iowa.  

They claim that obama&#039;s health care plan will have a death panel to decide which senior citizens should live or die.

Pass the laughing gas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a new group out there called the deathers.  It&#8217;s led by senator grassley of iowa.  </p>
<p>They claim that obama&#8217;s health care plan will have a death panel to decide which senior citizens should live or die.</p>
<p>Pass the laughing gas.</p>
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		<title>By: mountaingirl08</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-108366</link>
		<dc:creator>mountaingirl08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ronda, I reread my sentence and I thought I am really going to have to proofread what I print, as my thoughts are not ignorant and parochial as my ref. was to Palin&#039;s ignorance and so on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronda, I reread my sentence and I thought I am really going to have to proofread what I print, as my thoughts are not ignorant and parochial as my ref. was to Palin&#8217;s ignorance and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: mountaingirl08</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-108364</link>
		<dc:creator>mountaingirl08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ronda, you forgot ignorant and parochial (my thoughts).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronda, you forgot ignorant and parochial (my thoughts).</p>
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		<title>By: mountaingirl08</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-108361</link>
		<dc:creator>mountaingirl08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The birthers are shrill slack-jawed, drooling knuckledraggers, and that is on a good day.
They don&#039;t really believe that nonsense about Obama&#039;s birthplace. They can&#039;t be so stupid as to believe the b.s. In reality they hate Obama; they hate his race, they hate his party and his politics. That is the real reason behind all the hoopla. They know the truth, but they do not let reality interfere w. fiction..,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The birthers are shrill slack-jawed, drooling knuckledraggers, and that is on a good day.<br />
They don&#8217;t really believe that nonsense about Obama&#8217;s birthplace. They can&#8217;t be so stupid as to believe the b.s. In reality they hate Obama; they hate his race, they hate his party and his politics. That is the real reason behind all the hoopla. They know the truth, but they do not let reality interfere w. fiction..,</p>
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		<title>By: mountaingirl08</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-108359</link>
		<dc:creator>mountaingirl08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These &quot;birthers&quot; are a bunch of loose cannons. Don&#039;t they have anything better to do than to trash the prez.? Are they so superficial, so ignorant? By the way, the document they reference in hurling defamatory statements at Obama, is a forgery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These &#8220;birthers&#8221; are a bunch of loose cannons. Don&#8217;t they have anything better to do than to trash the prez.? Are they so superficial, so ignorant? By the way, the document they reference in hurling defamatory statements at Obama, is a forgery.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronda</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-107516</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Snorlax - Consider yourself defied - 

Olbermann on June 13, 2009

In a twelve minute segment about the former vice presidential candidate, Olbermann called her, &quot;Sanctimonious, holier than thou, exploitative, undignified, pedantic, childish, self-inflicting, insipid, backwards, embarrassing, over-reactive, overreaching&quot; as well as a &quot;delusional lunatic.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snorlax &#8211; Consider yourself defied &#8211; </p>
<p>Olbermann on June 13, 2009</p>
<p>In a twelve minute segment about the former vice presidential candidate, Olbermann called her, &#8220;Sanctimonious, holier than thou, exploitative, undignified, pedantic, childish, self-inflicting, insipid, backwards, embarrassing, over-reactive, overreaching&#8221; as well as a &#8220;delusional lunatic.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You got two out of five right tbow002.  SPLC is indeed subversive.  Thank God for that!  And yes, I suppose they&#039;re left-wing since lately, the right wing has become the Angry White Male Party.

Racist?  You&#039;ll have to explain how fighting against racism makes one racist.  Anti-American?  No, not everyone who you disagree with is anti-American.  Having and expressing opposing views is probably what distinguishes America most from other nations.  It&#039;s a foundational value.  If you are against that, that would make you anti-American by definition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got two out of five right tbow002.  SPLC is indeed subversive.  Thank God for that!  And yes, I suppose they&#8217;re left-wing since lately, the right wing has become the Angry White Male Party.</p>
<p>Racist?  You&#8217;ll have to explain how fighting against racism makes one racist.  Anti-American?  No, not everyone who you disagree with is anti-American.  Having and expressing opposing views is probably what distinguishes America most from other nations.  It&#8217;s a foundational value.  If you are against that, that would make you anti-American by definition.</p>
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		<title>By: aaarg</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-107158</link>
		<dc:creator>aaarg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The SPLC is a subversive, radical, left-wing, racist, anti-american organization…&quot;

Hey goober, did you just get through listening to limbaugh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The SPLC is a subversive, radical, left-wing, racist, anti-american organization…&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey goober, did you just get through listening to limbaugh?</p>
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		<title>By: tbow002</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-107145</link>
		<dc:creator>tbow002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The SPLC is a subversive, radical, left-wing, racist, anti-american organization...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SPLC is a subversive, radical, left-wing, racist, anti-american organization&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Liesl</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-107047</link>
		<dc:creator>Liesl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I guess my arguments are so cogent that the moderators here have to censor me left and right.&quot;

I call bullshit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I guess my arguments are so cogent that the moderators here have to censor me left and right.&#8221;</p>
<p>I call bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106997</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess my arguments are so cogent that the moderators here have to censor me left and right.
 please stop erasing my comments... it doesn&#039;t help your cause at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my arguments are so cogent that the moderators here have to censor me left and right.<br />
 please stop erasing my comments&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t help your cause at all.</p>
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		<title>By: awhippingflame</title>
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		<dc:creator>awhippingflame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our mad rush to judge Lou Dobbs as a &#039;conspiracy nut&#039;, we missed the real story; which is, that the &#039;birther&#039; issue is a rapidly growing trend that works against Obama. It gives the appearance of unpresidentiality. Therefor, we should ALL ask President Obama to demonstrate a little transparency and quell the concerns of so many good Americans. Doesn&#039;t that make sense to you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our mad rush to judge Lou Dobbs as a &#8216;conspiracy nut&#8217;, we missed the real story; which is, that the &#8216;birther&#8217; issue is a rapidly growing trend that works against Obama. It gives the appearance of unpresidentiality. Therefor, we should ALL ask President Obama to demonstrate a little transparency and quell the concerns of so many good Americans. Doesn&#8217;t that make sense to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106778</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You people need to stick to the facts and grow up.&quot;&#039;

No, you birthers need to stick to the facts and grow up.

You&#039;re a bunch of lying crybabies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You people need to stick to the facts and grow up.&#8221;&#8216;</p>
<p>No, you birthers need to stick to the facts and grow up.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a bunch of lying crybabies.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106774</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, you&#039;re still wrong.

The state of Hawaii issued a certificate of live borth which is on the internet.  Although this is the so-called &quot;short form&quot; birth certificate, it is genuine and is regarded as a legal birth certificate 

When I got my passport, I wrote my state for my birth certificate and they sent me the short form. The feds had no problem accepting it as genuine.

I have seen absolutely no evidence of your assertion that Obama paid a million to suppress his birth certificate.  And he has provided a short form, which is legally acceptable.  So he is not suppressing anything.

David, your birther garbage is the only thing in here that is uncalled for.  You are a fool like Dobbs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you&#8217;re still wrong.</p>
<p>The state of Hawaii issued a certificate of live borth which is on the internet.  Although this is the so-called &#8220;short form&#8221; birth certificate, it is genuine and is regarded as a legal birth certificate </p>
<p>When I got my passport, I wrote my state for my birth certificate and they sent me the short form. The feds had no problem accepting it as genuine.</p>
<p>I have seen absolutely no evidence of your assertion that Obama paid a million to suppress his birth certificate.  And he has provided a short form, which is legally acceptable.  So he is not suppressing anything.</p>
<p>David, your birther garbage is the only thing in here that is uncalled for.  You are a fool like Dobbs.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106517</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look- at first I laughed at the claims of the &#039;birthers.&#039; It was the behavior of Obama and his supporters that made me research this. 
Their behavior makes them look guilty- the shrill cries of racism, the expenditure of a million dollars to hide a document, the reliance on a sympathetic institute for verification of another document, the steadfast refusal to stay on topic, or personally attack questioners, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look- at first I laughed at the claims of the &#8216;birthers.&#8217; It was the behavior of Obama and his supporters that made me research this.<br />
Their behavior makes them look guilty- the shrill cries of racism, the expenditure of a million dollars to hide a document, the reliance on a sympathetic institute for verification of another document, the steadfast refusal to stay on topic, or personally attack questioners, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106494</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You people need to stick to the  facts and grow up. My letter to my senator asked him to refute the pro -&quot;birther&quot; argument. instead he almost confirmed  the pro birther argument. 

Going &quot;OOOOOHH&quot; and giggling  is uncalled for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people need to stick to the  facts and grow up. My letter to my senator asked him to refute the pro -&#8221;birther&#8221; argument. instead he almost confirmed  the pro birther argument. </p>
<p>Going &#8220;OOOOOHH&#8221; and giggling  is uncalled for.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106434</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=3282#comment-106434</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The document his campaign put online is not the long form birth certificate.&quot;  So what.

The short form one is just as legal  as the original.  When I wrote for my birth certificate for my passport, they sent me the short form.  The feds had no trouble accepting it as genuine.

They sent it back to me with my new passport.  I&#039;m looking at it right now.  But I guess it doesn&#039;t count and I was really born in Kenya, not Connecticut.  LOL!

Obama WAS born in Hawaii.  The state verified this with the short form certificate of live birth, which is just as legal as the original long form.

You birthers are all insane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The document his campaign put online is not the long form birth certificate.&#8221;  So what.</p>
<p>The short form one is just as legal  as the original.  When I wrote for my birth certificate for my passport, they sent me the short form.  The feds had no trouble accepting it as genuine.</p>
<p>They sent it back to me with my new passport.  I&#8217;m looking at it right now.  But I guess it doesn&#8217;t count and I was really born in Kenya, not Connecticut.  LOL!</p>
<p>Obama WAS born in Hawaii.  The state verified this with the short form certificate of live birth, which is just as legal as the original long form.</p>
<p>You birthers are all insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106396</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;a personal letter to me from my US senator very strongly implies that Obama does not have proper US citizenship&quot;

Ooooooh, very STRONGLY impllies...LOL!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a personal letter to me from my US senator very strongly implies that Obama does not have proper US citizenship&#8221;</p>
<p>Ooooooh, very STRONGLY impllies&#8230;LOL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106395</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Birthers are all cuckoo bananas.

They&#039;re proving it in here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birthers are all cuckoo bananas.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re proving it in here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106355</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, we do know he was born in Hawaii because his birth certificate has been certified by several parties.  His birth was announced in the two papers.  

Burden of proof is on you to show he was born in Kenya.  Since you allege that a Kenyan ambassador claims he was, and that his grandmother said so, you go ahead and provide the sources for those claims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, we do know he was born in Hawaii because his birth certificate has been certified by several parties.  His birth was announced in the two papers.  </p>
<p>Burden of proof is on you to show he was born in Kenya.  Since you allege that a Kenyan ambassador claims he was, and that his grandmother said so, you go ahead and provide the sources for those claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauka</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106353</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say boycott ALL the tv networks and get your news on  the internet! Hit them where it HURT$!!! 

This used to be the land of freedom but it&#039;s turning like China!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say boycott ALL the tv networks and get your news on  the internet! Hit them where it HURT$!!! </p>
<p>This used to be the land of freedom but it&#8217;s turning like China!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106294</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We dont know if he was born in Hawaii or not. The document his campaign put online is not the long form birth certificate. The primary document still exists, and only two or three people have been allowed to see it, its not &quot;online&quot;.  Obama could end most of this right now by acting appropiately...He can issue an executive order and release the document to the general public. Instead, he acts in a very suspicious manner by doing everything he can to prevent legal discovery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We dont know if he was born in Hawaii or not. The document his campaign put online is not the long form birth certificate. The primary document still exists, and only two or three people have been allowed to see it, its not &#8220;online&#8221;.  Obama could end most of this right now by acting appropiately&#8230;He can issue an executive order and release the document to the general public. Instead, he acts in a very suspicious manner by doing everything he can to prevent legal discovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106240</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Obama has broken just about every campaign promise he made- he loaded his cabinet with lobbyists; the same individuals who took the rules down that allowed the banking crisis to erupt were put into positions where they are suppose to try to fix the economy that they themselves damaged ( Summers, Cass,
Geithner )...
Obama is a slave- a slave to special Wall Street interests- Just like the usurper Bush. Obama proved this by giving the big banks trillions, and then refusing to hold them fully accountable&quot;

I agree.  I voted for Cynthia McKinney the Green candidate, because Obama (and most Dems) sold us out by voting for the Bush Bailout last October.

However, Obama IS a natural born American citizen and you are wrong to suggest otherwise.

If you don&#039;t like Obama&#039;s sellout economic policy, fine.  But making up garbage about Obama will backfire on you.

Republicans have NO chance of beating Obama in 2012 if they persist with these &quot;birther&quot; LIES.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama has broken just about every campaign promise he made- he loaded his cabinet with lobbyists; the same individuals who took the rules down that allowed the banking crisis to erupt were put into positions where they are suppose to try to fix the economy that they themselves damaged ( Summers, Cass,<br />
Geithner )&#8230;<br />
Obama is a slave- a slave to special Wall Street interests- Just like the usurper Bush. Obama proved this by giving the big banks trillions, and then refusing to hold them fully accountable&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree.  I voted for Cynthia McKinney the Green candidate, because Obama (and most Dems) sold us out by voting for the Bush Bailout last October.</p>
<p>However, Obama IS a natural born American citizen and you are wrong to suggest otherwise.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like Obama&#8217;s sellout economic policy, fine.  But making up garbage about Obama will backfire on you.</p>
<p>Republicans have NO chance of beating Obama in 2012 if they persist with these &#8220;birther&#8221; LIES.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106237</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Journalists must tell the truth AND cite their sources, and we should accept nothing less. Public commentors need to either state their comments to be personal opinions, or tell the entire truth.&quot;

As a former journalist, I agree.

Unfortunately, FOX News has already gotten a court ruling that it is OK for them to knowingly LIE on their newcasts.  Until this is overturned, we have no legal protection from their lies.  The FCC refuses to regulate this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Journalists must tell the truth AND cite their sources, and we should accept nothing less. Public commentors need to either state their comments to be personal opinions, or tell the entire truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a former journalist, I agree.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, FOX News has already gotten a court ruling that it is OK for them to knowingly LIE on their newcasts.  Until this is overturned, we have no legal protection from their lies.  The FCC refuses to regulate this.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106235</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I would bet money you didn&#039;t write a letter to the head of NBC regarding David Letterman and his sick joke about Sarah Palin&#039;s 14 year old daughter did ya?&quot;

The joke was about Palin&#039;s OLDER daughter, who is an adult.  Another Reich Wingnut LIE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would bet money you didn&#8217;t write a letter to the head of NBC regarding David Letterman and his sick joke about Sarah Palin&#8217;s 14 year old daughter did ya?&#8221;</p>
<p>The joke was about Palin&#8217;s OLDER daughter, who is an adult.  Another Reich Wingnut LIE.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/07/24/splc-asks-cnn-to-remove-lou-dobbs/comment-page-2/#comment-106234</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why won&#039;t Obama produce his birth certificate? Why has he spent ove $800,000 to fight having to produce it?

More Reich Wingnut LIES.  Obama&#039;s Hawaiian birth certificate has been available online for some time, and the original has been verified as authentic.

Put down the meth pipe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why won&#8217;t Obama produce his birth certificate? Why has he spent ove $800,000 to fight having to produce it?</p>
<p>More Reich Wingnut LIES.  Obama&#8217;s Hawaiian birth certificate has been available online for some time, and the original has been verified as authentic.</p>
<p>Put down the meth pipe.</p>
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