The very idea that you can feel pride over something as meaningless as your skin colour is just laughable and sad. If you’re that desperate to be proud of something that your skin colour matters to you, then you must have a pretty pathetic life.

One thing that all hate groups have in common is a need to perpetuate and spread their ideas- like malaria. Otherwise, such ideas die with the infected generation. The ones who suffer the most are the children, who follow along because they don’t know any better.

If you’re into SHARPs and it sounds like you are, I’ve done a lot of songs/poems about them. They’re at http://devlin-mcaliskey.blogsp.....ARP%2FRASH

Also, I’ve typed up a series of arguements in favor of SHARPs but am reluctant to put them on my blog because of possible legal issues. People can email me at tshelley75@comcast.net and I’ll email them to you.

Also, for OtherView, about that kid with the “gun.” It’s very common for young boys to do what you described. They get it from TV shows and movies, often Westerns or other movies that involve white people using guns. To connect his behavior with rap is ridiculous.

Tom

Mexican is not Spanish. Spanish is European.

Examples please. A single line from a Brand Nubian or Lench Mob song from 15+ years ago, perhaps, since those are the sources often cited by supremacist sites to demonstrate that rap is exactly the same as white power music.

So, ethnic/racial pride among people of color is usually not comparable to white pride.

And the SPLC DOES monitor groups that are anti-white. The SPLC and it’s supporters are not hypocrites. I’ve even done 1.5 posts on my blog about anti-white racism.

Tom

Don’t worry, I don’t actually expect any of you to care, nor do I even expect this comment to be published. After all, I do realize the SPLC and its supporters have an agenda of anti-white racism to push.

I have seen them perform live five times between 1990 and last year. I would say that the white people in the audience outnumbered the black people. There was zero racial animosity in the crowd, and zero animosity coming from anybody in the group (yes, even the controversial Professor Griff).

And no, Bill Taxes, Flavor Flav’s clock does not mean the time when blacks will rule — it simply means to know what time it is (to be aware of how things are)

As for other rap, I’ve been a rap fan since the late 80s, and I can count the number of blatantly anti-white acts on one hand, if that. Anti-establishment, sure, and I guess since the establishment tends to be white you can make that leap. But absolutely nothing that compares to most White Power music.

Rap’s negative images? Those are unquestionable, and unfortunately serve to bring down blacks and provide more ammo to racist whites. The best illustration of this? Go back to Public Enemy, whose fourth album featured an interlude of a Klansman thanking the black community for embracing these negative traits: “we’d like to thank you all, for saving us the time, trouble and legality, for the final chapter of riddin’ y’all off the face of the earth! Your solution to our problem is greatly appreciated!”

Also, in response to a couple of earlier posts by people defending WP music- very few people are calling for censorship. The SPLC isn’t and I’m not (although in some cases I will support censorship- for example, the banning or blocking of Colombus Day marches, but I wouldn’t support censorship of publications- in general, with VERY few exceptions, I’m totally against censorship)

That doesn’t mean we can’t speak out against the politics of those songs. That’s not censorship.

Tom

1) You make a good point about Death and Black metal being MUCH MUCH more offensive than than rap. And of course these people are not complaining about how the SPLC and anti-racists are ignoring that music, which is associated much more with white people than with people of color.

2) If you were referring to my statement about how around 1990 most PE fans at most PE shows were probably black, I could be wrong but I would be surprised. Everything I’ve read indicates that back then some majority of black youth were rap fans. Maybe I was off a bit and it was just on the other side of 50%. In any case, that tour brought together a lot of white kids and a lot of Black kids to enjoy both metal and rap at the same concert. It’s evidence that PE is not black supremacist as Bill Taxes suggested they were.

Tom

It’s been a while since I listened much to PE but I wouldn’t be surprised if Chuck is right, I can’t think of any such songs and I probably have half their albums and have spent an average of about five minutes a day listening to their music the last 18 years. On the other hand, there is some homophobia and at least one thing that I think could be called sexist but that’s a tiny, tiny, tiny % of their lyrics that I have listened to.

I think that should bring my comments about rap to an end.

As far as my song-writing ability, there are songs that are around 50% me that I’ve “written” that are awesome. Probably the best example of that would be “The Battle of Hayes Pond” the 3rd song at http://devlin-mcaliskey.blogsp.....-pond.html . Other songs among my lyrics that are similarily mine and similarly amazing include: Socialist Dream; People’s Dream; 32-County Republic; London; Orange Society; Solidarity; Boots and Blue Laces; Easter Lillies; Son Of Ireland; Volunteer; Belfast Republican; Orangeman; F–k Ian Stuart; and The Spirit of Che Guevara. There’s about 20 more I almost could have added to that list. I don’t know if this will happen, but those lyrics and a bunch of others, would be great if accompanied by music and recorded by some band.

Tom

I must say that I am not at all surprised at reading this. After the public marches of “undocumented” individuals in 2006, is anyone surprised? I’ve read where membership in the KKK has increased dramatically ever since. I think this is more a case of citizens feeling that they and their families are being threatened rather than their total acceptance of that mindset. At least, I hope so.

Personally, I dig rap music. Especially the political artists such as Dead Prez, Immortal Technique, Krazy Race and (mix-tape) Rebel Diaz(this one can be found at Radical Jacks). And you don’t need to be Black to listen to rap music. Its definately retarded to say that rap is strictly for Black people. As a matter of fact, the ethnic background in the rap music industry is far more diverse, than what it was when Public Enemy was a hit.