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	<title>Comments on: Leader of Sierra Club Takeover Effort Resurfaces With New Anti-Immigrant Warning</title>
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		<title>By: SM</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-109056</link>
		<dc:creator>SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I do believe that illegal immigrants are being made scapegoats.  I can see how many Hispanics just like black and white people in this country think they have a right to reproduce at will.  I do not believe that anyone has the right to reproduce at will unless they are going to support their own families themselves without stressing others&#039; resources.  It must take the wind out of nativists&#039; sails to learn that the birth rates fell in the United States last year for the first time since 2001.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do believe that illegal immigrants are being made scapegoats.  I can see how many Hispanics just like black and white people in this country think they have a right to reproduce at will.  I do not believe that anyone has the right to reproduce at will unless they are going to support their own families themselves without stressing others&#8217; resources.  It must take the wind out of nativists&#8217; sails to learn that the birth rates fell in the United States last year for the first time since 2001.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108386</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nazis and the anti-immigrant/anti-immigration reform movement do have a lot in common&lt;/i&gt;.

Nazism and environmentalism also have a lot in common. Nazis had by far the most progressive environmental protection laws in the world. Madison Grant, the greatest of American nature preservationists, was a big racist, and Hitler said that Grant&#039;s book &quot;The Passing of the Great Race&quot; was his Bible.

Animal rights movement and Nazism also have a lot in common. Remember that Nazis banned vivisection, and implemented many other far-reaching animal protection policies.

Nazis were also the first to prove the link between smoking and lung cancer, and had the most progressive anti-smoking laws in the world.

Does this mean that today&#039;s environmentalists, animal rights people, and anti-smoking activists are somehow connected to Nazism? Of course not. They are no more Nazi than immigration restrictionists.

Immigration restriction and environmentalism seem to me to be closely connected. When an immigrant from a poor country comes to America, their carbon footprint multiplies overnight, to say nothing of other environmental effects of tens of millions of new inhabitants. It is estimated that by the year 2050 there will be 9.4 billion people in the world, and 440 million in the US. If this population explosion is not fought, all the efforts of the environmentalists will be in vain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nazis and the anti-immigrant/anti-immigration reform movement do have a lot in common</i>.</p>
<p>Nazism and environmentalism also have a lot in common. Nazis had by far the most progressive environmental protection laws in the world. Madison Grant, the greatest of American nature preservationists, was a big racist, and Hitler said that Grant&#8217;s book &#8220;The Passing of the Great Race&#8221; was his Bible.</p>
<p>Animal rights movement and Nazism also have a lot in common. Remember that Nazis banned vivisection, and implemented many other far-reaching animal protection policies.</p>
<p>Nazis were also the first to prove the link between smoking and lung cancer, and had the most progressive anti-smoking laws in the world.</p>
<p>Does this mean that today&#8217;s environmentalists, animal rights people, and anti-smoking activists are somehow connected to Nazism? Of course not. They are no more Nazi than immigration restrictionists.</p>
<p>Immigration restriction and environmentalism seem to me to be closely connected. When an immigrant from a poor country comes to America, their carbon footprint multiplies overnight, to say nothing of other environmental effects of tens of millions of new inhabitants. It is estimated that by the year 2050 there will be 9.4 billion people in the world, and 440 million in the US. If this population explosion is not fought, all the efforts of the environmentalists will be in vain.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108325</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Indian learned the hard way what happens when immigration runs amok</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Indian learned the hard way what happens when immigration runs amok</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108324</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the real goal: Mega-corporations  want to erase the borders, and create coarsened, homogenized workforce lacking national identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the real goal: Mega-corporations  want to erase the borders, and create coarsened, homogenized workforce lacking national identity.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108289</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I advocate for a rational immigration policy, and I want the laws of the land  upheld.

Advocates for amnesty for those who broke the law to come here....these advocates have several motives- they want more voters for their candidates. Many of them  dislike US American civilization, and think an broad infusion of Latinism will improve it. Some believe that since we are an immigrant nation, we are hyporites for opposing mass immigration...

Let them come here- in an orderly fashion... let them assimilate to a certain degree- most illegals have zero intention of becomeing &quot;Americanized.&quot;...Most illegals cannot even read and write spanish- they are largely illiterate in the spanish language. I know- I worked with these people extensively. You can put a copy of the Bill of Rights in their house, and 20 years can go by, and they will never read it. They are here to get ahead in a material way- this is justified...im sorry for their plight south of the border...but relocating ten or thirty million people from one country to another country in about fifteen years..is not rational, as systems need time to adjust. Let them come, but in a orderly manner. Let the fragile ecosystems breathe free. Stop illegal immigration, and curb ALL migration into stressed areas.

And I cant stand it when people think im a Republican. The vast majority of Republicans suck.
 
(Im a big fan of Michael Harrington, Noam Chomsky, Tony Benn, and Gore Vidal)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I advocate for a rational immigration policy, and I want the laws of the land  upheld.</p>
<p>Advocates for amnesty for those who broke the law to come here&#8230;.these advocates have several motives- they want more voters for their candidates. Many of them  dislike US American civilization, and think an broad infusion of Latinism will improve it. Some believe that since we are an immigrant nation, we are hyporites for opposing mass immigration&#8230;</p>
<p>Let them come here- in an orderly fashion&#8230; let them assimilate to a certain degree- most illegals have zero intention of becomeing &#8220;Americanized.&#8221;&#8230;Most illegals cannot even read and write spanish- they are largely illiterate in the spanish language. I know- I worked with these people extensively. You can put a copy of the Bill of Rights in their house, and 20 years can go by, and they will never read it. They are here to get ahead in a material way- this is justified&#8230;im sorry for their plight south of the border&#8230;but relocating ten or thirty million people from one country to another country in about fifteen years..is not rational, as systems need time to adjust. Let them come, but in a orderly manner. Let the fragile ecosystems breathe free. Stop illegal immigration, and curb ALL migration into stressed areas.</p>
<p>And I cant stand it when people think im a Republican. The vast majority of Republicans suck.</p>
<p>(Im a big fan of Michael Harrington, Noam Chomsky, Tony Benn, and Gore Vidal)</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108288</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding just one person to an ecologically fragile zone is bad.  a person  flushes toilets, drinks water, cooks with water, and bathes with water. A person  usually drives car- whether its a 8 mpg or a 40mpg....both still harm ecosystems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding just one person to an ecologically fragile zone is bad.  a person  flushes toilets, drinks water, cooks with water, and bathes with water. A person  usually drives car- whether its a 8 mpg or a 40mpg&#8230;.both still harm ecosystems.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108285</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes beholder- that was part of my point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes beholder- that was part of my point</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108266</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>illegal immigration is just part of the ecological mess which involves regional overpopulation. Just one person moving to an area where water is scarce can put a strain upon that area..So a million newcomers in just one year... can wipe out fragile ecosystems very easily. Our national and state parks along the border areas are becoming trash piles,  the trash is being put there by illegals...whereas 25 years ago, the parks  were clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>illegal immigration is just part of the ecological mess which involves regional overpopulation. Just one person moving to an area where water is scarce can put a strain upon that area..So a million newcomers in just one year&#8230; can wipe out fragile ecosystems very easily. Our national and state parks along the border areas are becoming trash piles,  the trash is being put there by illegals&#8230;whereas 25 years ago, the parks  were clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108258</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazis and the anti-immigrant/anti-immigration reform movement do have a lot in common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazis and the anti-immigrant/anti-immigration reform movement do have a lot in common.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108236</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not Snotlax anymore.  Good thing I found a box of Kleenex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not Snotlax anymore.  Good thing I found a box of Kleenex.</p>
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		<title>By: Snotlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108235</link>
		<dc:creator>Snotlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegal immigrants are scapegoats.

We&#039;re blaming these poor working people for the economy, crime, disease, and now the environment.

Scapegoating is what the Nazis did.  Scapegoating is WRONG.

It is my belief that when ordinary, powerless working people are blamed for big things like the environment or economy that are beyond their control, this scapegoating is being deliberately started by evil people who DO have power over the big things.

These evill ones can always get stupid dupes to spread their hate speech and scapegoating.  Those dupes are callled Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal immigrants are scapegoats.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re blaming these poor working people for the economy, crime, disease, and now the environment.</p>
<p>Scapegoating is what the Nazis did.  Scapegoating is WRONG.</p>
<p>It is my belief that when ordinary, powerless working people are blamed for big things like the environment or economy that are beyond their control, this scapegoating is being deliberately started by evil people who DO have power over the big things.</p>
<p>These evill ones can always get stupid dupes to spread their hate speech and scapegoating.  Those dupes are callled Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah de Santos</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108204</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah de Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the . . . ? How does immigration affect the environment? I don&#039;t see a whole heck of a lot of immigrants driving gas hogs. The ones I know all walk with a pretty light foot step on this planet. 

If water resources for the Southwest are stretched to the breaking point - maybe they need to put a ban on people from the East moving out there to retire - just sayin . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the . . . ? How does immigration affect the environment? I don&#8217;t see a whole heck of a lot of immigrants driving gas hogs. The ones I know all walk with a pretty light foot step on this planet. </p>
<p>If water resources for the Southwest are stretched to the breaking point &#8211; maybe they need to put a ban on people from the East moving out there to retire &#8211; just sayin . . .</p>
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		<title>By: beholder</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108110</link>
		<dc:creator>beholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

Sounds like it might be a good idea to move out of the desert, doncha think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>Sounds like it might be a good idea to move out of the desert, doncha think?</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-108000</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Water resources for the American southwest are stretched to the breaking point. Rapidly adding several  million more people to the region could spell disaster. Vegas and LA  are overpopulated areas already...Lake Mead is drying up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water resources for the American southwest are stretched to the breaking point. Rapidly adding several  million more people to the region could spell disaster. Vegas and LA  are overpopulated areas already&#8230;Lake Mead is drying up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: beholder</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/10/leader-of-sierra-club-takeover-effort-resurfaces-with-new-anti-immigrant-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-107996</link>
		<dc:creator>beholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get it.

That 8-mile a gallon Ford Expedition with the Bush-Cheney bumper sticker holds an environmentalist.

Riiiiiight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get it.</p>
<p>That 8-mile a gallon Ford Expedition with the Bush-Cheney bumper sticker holds an environmentalist.</p>
<p>Riiiiiight.</p>
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