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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/man-killed-in-fbi-shootout-said-to-lead-terror-cell/comment-page-1/#comment-127722</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, since the SPLC classifies Islam (a religion, which is  founded on a specific set of beliefs) as a race, it could be safe to assume that political beliefs could potentially be considered as a &quot;race&quot; one day, right?

If that&#039;s the case, when will the SPLC put itself on its own &quot;hate map&quot;? :P

You ALL are smarter than ALL of us? What are you basing that on? Facts, or pure emotion as you ALL have proven to base everything else on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, since the SPLC classifies Islam (a religion, which is  founded on a specific set of beliefs) as a race, it could be safe to assume that political beliefs could potentially be considered as a &#8220;race&#8221; one day, right?</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, when will the SPLC put itself on its own &#8220;hate map&#8221;? :P</p>
<p>You ALL are smarter than ALL of us? What are you basing that on? Facts, or pure emotion as you ALL have proven to base everything else on?</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/man-killed-in-fbi-shootout-said-to-lead-terror-cell/comment-page-1/#comment-127311</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris said, &quot;You liberals are brilliant. Absolutely freakin’ brilliant.&quot;

Thank you for admitting it.

Yes, it IS true that we are smarter than you Repukes.

After all, you elected an idiot Chimp twice.  He lied to start the wrong war, set up a torture gulag, allowed his top staffers to treasonously &quot;out&quot; the CIA, and wrecked our economy by doubling the federal debt and sending our jobs offshore.

Meanwhile, you all get your &quot;facts&quot; from a junkie and a pervert.  You have a hypocritical double standard of morality.

You&#039;re the double-digit side of the IQ curve in the US.

Yes, we ARE smarter than you. And you know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris said, &#8220;You liberals are brilliant. Absolutely freakin’ brilliant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for admitting it.</p>
<p>Yes, it IS true that we are smarter than you Repukes.</p>
<p>After all, you elected an idiot Chimp twice.  He lied to start the wrong war, set up a torture gulag, allowed his top staffers to treasonously &#8220;out&#8221; the CIA, and wrecked our economy by doubling the federal debt and sending our jobs offshore.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, you all get your &#8220;facts&#8221; from a junkie and a pervert.  You have a hypocritical double standard of morality.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the double-digit side of the IQ curve in the US.</p>
<p>Yes, we ARE smarter than you. And you know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/man-killed-in-fbi-shootout-said-to-lead-terror-cell/comment-page-1/#comment-127308</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing about the word &quot;kaffir&quot; that some Muslims use as a bigoted hate word against non-Muslims...

The word &quot;kaffir&quot; was also used by racist white South Africans to describe people of color.  Like many Muslims.

Maybe they could shout &quot;kaffir&quot; at each other.  As if that might change anything or make anybody happy.

Racism is an equal opportunity employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing about the word &#8220;kaffir&#8221; that some Muslims use as a bigoted hate word against non-Muslims&#8230;</p>
<p>The word &#8220;kaffir&#8221; was also used by racist white South Africans to describe people of color.  Like many Muslims.</p>
<p>Maybe they could shout &#8220;kaffir&#8221; at each other.  As if that might change anything or make anybody happy.</p>
<p>Racism is an equal opportunity employer.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/man-killed-in-fbi-shootout-said-to-lead-terror-cell/comment-page-1/#comment-127307</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Klan Nazi wingnuts in here are constantly claiming that the SPLC is bigoted because it only calls white supremacist groups racist.

This disproves that lie.  The SPLC keeps track of ALL dangerous groups they find, not just the rednecks.

The SPLC has black seperatists and other minority groups on their list along with the white ones.

Once again, you Reich Wingnuts prove conclusively that you are liars and racists.  You have no business in here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Klan Nazi wingnuts in here are constantly claiming that the SPLC is bigoted because it only calls white supremacist groups racist.</p>
<p>This disproves that lie.  The SPLC keeps track of ALL dangerous groups they find, not just the rednecks.</p>
<p>The SPLC has black seperatists and other minority groups on their list along with the white ones.</p>
<p>Once again, you Reich Wingnuts prove conclusively that you are liars and racists.  You have no business in here.</p>
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		<title>By: Snarla</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/man-killed-in-fbi-shootout-said-to-lead-terror-cell/comment-page-1/#comment-126992</link>
		<dc:creator>Snarla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that this is even slightly important, but &quot;ummah&quot; does not mean &quot;brotherhood.&quot; It means &quot;nation,&quot; and refers to the body of Muslims all over the world.

BTW, the only witness to claim that Hasan shouted &quot;allahu akbar&quot; now says he doesn&#039;t know if that actually happened. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I was sitting in about the second row back when the assailant stood up and yelled &#039;Allahu akbar&#039; in Arabic and he opened fire,&quot; Foster said Monday on CNN&#039;s &quot;American Morning.&quot;

Foster, 21, said he wasn&#039;t clear about whether the gunman said those exact words, noting that &quot;with that much adrenaline, you tend to forget things.&quot;

&lt;/i&gt;
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/09/fort.hood.foster/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that this is even slightly important, but &#8220;ummah&#8221; does not mean &#8220;brotherhood.&#8221; It means &#8220;nation,&#8221; and refers to the body of Muslims all over the world.</p>
<p>BTW, the only witness to claim that Hasan shouted &#8220;allahu akbar&#8221; now says he doesn&#8217;t know if that actually happened. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;I was sitting in about the second row back when the assailant stood up and yelled &#8216;Allahu akbar&#8217; in Arabic and he opened fire,&#8221; Foster said Monday on CNN&#8217;s &#8220;American Morning.&#8221;</p>
<p>Foster, 21, said he wasn&#8217;t clear about whether the gunman said those exact words, noting that &#8220;with that much adrenaline, you tend to forget things.&#8221;</p>
<p></i><br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/09/fort.hood.foster/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/.....od.foster/</a></p>
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		<title>By: GENO</title>
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		<dc:creator>GENO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its very very unlikely that such an egregiously created &quot;Islamic State&quot; will ever be surface &quot;within the borders of the U.S.&quot; Its never gonna happen. Not in my lifetime, anyway. One has to be a dwelleth in La-La Land to assume this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its very very unlikely that such an egregiously created &#8220;Islamic State&#8221; will ever be surface &#8220;within the borders of the U.S.&#8221; Its never gonna happen. Not in my lifetime, anyway. One has to be a dwelleth in La-La Land to assume this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/man-killed-in-fbi-shootout-said-to-lead-terror-cell/comment-page-1/#comment-126866</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Chris, were you aware that the vast majority of American domestic terrorists are not Muslim?  Rather their beliefs are described as conservative, Christian, libertarian, etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Chris, were you aware that the vast majority of American domestic terrorists are not Muslim?  Rather their beliefs are described as conservative, Christian, libertarian, etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: Tezuka fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tezuka fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris
I think he yelled out Allahu Akbar (Arabic for &quot;God is great&quot;) because he felt for sure that he was going to be killed there on the spot, sort of like a self-administered last rites. Like when people say the Lord&#039;s Prayer when they&#039;re about to do something that may get them killed (suicide mission).
...
I have no idea where I&#039;m going with this...
XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris<br />
I think he yelled out Allahu Akbar (Arabic for &#8220;God is great&#8221;) because he felt for sure that he was going to be killed there on the spot, sort of like a self-administered last rites. Like when people say the Lord&#8217;s Prayer when they&#8217;re about to do something that may get them killed (suicide mission).<br />
&#8230;<br />
I have no idea where I&#8217;m going with this&#8230;<br />
XD</p>
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		<title>By: Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly I think this has less to do with politics per se&#039; than it does the West&#039;s desire (all to often) to find reason for pathological actions. What&#039;s more it doesn&#039;t matter who commits such actions, they should be stopped from ever repeating them!
Young men were excused from murders in the past and served as little as five to seven years of prison time due to age. When released, they murdered again and again. We continued to &quot;try and find the reason&quot; for such behavior; while innocent people died!
All these things are secondary to protecting the innocent. It only become apparent when the tragedy hits home that murdering psychopaths need to be stopped as a primary goal.
Trying to &quot;understand them&quot; puts undue emphasis on excuses &amp; surety of protection as an after-thought.
The unbelievable assertion that this individual &quot;suffered from PTSD&quot; is ludicrous as any reason or excuse for his behavior. But it demonstrates society&#039;s failure to protect the innocent at the cost of a continuation of obscene violence.
This jackass could have every emotional disorder imaginable &amp; it wouldn&#039;t matter a bit. The end result is what he does. And if what he does is a threat to those who are innocent, he needs to be removed from contact with society; better sooner than later!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly I think this has less to do with politics per se&#8217; than it does the West&#8217;s desire (all to often) to find reason for pathological actions. What&#8217;s more it doesn&#8217;t matter who commits such actions, they should be stopped from ever repeating them!<br />
Young men were excused from murders in the past and served as little as five to seven years of prison time due to age. When released, they murdered again and again. We continued to &#8220;try and find the reason&#8221; for such behavior; while innocent people died!<br />
All these things are secondary to protecting the innocent. It only become apparent when the tragedy hits home that murdering psychopaths need to be stopped as a primary goal.<br />
Trying to &#8220;understand them&#8221; puts undue emphasis on excuses &amp; surety of protection as an after-thought.<br />
The unbelievable assertion that this individual &#8220;suffered from PTSD&#8221; is ludicrous as any reason or excuse for his behavior. But it demonstrates society&#8217;s failure to protect the innocent at the cost of a continuation of obscene violence.<br />
This jackass could have every emotional disorder imaginable &amp; it wouldn&#8217;t matter a bit. The end result is what he does. And if what he does is a threat to those who are innocent, he needs to be removed from contact with society; better sooner than later!</p>
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		<title>By: texasgomer</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/man-killed-in-fbi-shootout-said-to-lead-terror-cell/comment-page-1/#comment-126592</link>
		<dc:creator>texasgomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, we know little about Dr. Hasan&#039;s motives, but they have been put forth by Kay Bailey Hutchinson, a Texas Senator, as his being upset over his deployment.  I would not call this a hate crime for that reason.  The incident at the Museum was most definitely a hate crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, we know little about Dr. Hasan&#8217;s motives, but they have been put forth by Kay Bailey Hutchinson, a Texas Senator, as his being upset over his deployment.  I would not call this a hate crime for that reason.  The incident at the Museum was most definitely a hate crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>texasgoober, real great Liberal logic there, lefty. Yeah, him being a Muslim had NOTHING whatsoever to do with it! Even though he was screaming Allah O Akbar as he shot up the place. And also lets make sure and overlook the fact he was posting crap on the internet about justification for suicide bombings.

You liberals are brilliant. Absolutely freakin&#039; brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>texasgoober, real great Liberal logic there, lefty. Yeah, him being a Muslim had NOTHING whatsoever to do with it! Even though he was screaming Allah O Akbar as he shot up the place. And also lets make sure and overlook the fact he was posting crap on the internet about justification for suicide bombings.</p>
<p>You liberals are brilliant. Absolutely freakin&#8217; brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: texasgomer</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/06/man-killed-in-fbi-shootout-said-to-lead-terror-cell/comment-page-1/#comment-126467</link>
		<dc:creator>texasgomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the similarity at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the similarity at all.</p>
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		<title>By: White Avocado</title>
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		<dc:creator>White Avocado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious to see how SPLC reacts to this incident in comparison to how they reacted to the Holocaust Museum shooting.  Both cases seem very similar: deeply alienated and violent people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious to see how SPLC reacts to this incident in comparison to how they reacted to the Holocaust Museum shooting.  Both cases seem very similar: deeply alienated and violent people.</p>
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		<title>By: texasgomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>texasgomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking about what happened at Fort Hood, it is irrelevant that the guy was a Muslim.  He could have been any faith and still broken.  I think it says more about our lack of confidence in our wars than anything about any particular group, ethnic or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking about what happened at Fort Hood, it is irrelevant that the guy was a Muslim.  He could have been any faith and still broken.  I think it says more about our lack of confidence in our wars than anything about any particular group, ethnic or otherwise.</p>
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