“I hate to burst your bubble, snorlax, but you’re not White, at least not in the sense of having a White identity you’re not. Jews, homosexuals, those who have children with non-Whites, and any others who identify as other-than-White, are by definition, not White.”

Um, I am of German (Nazi-sympathizers, embarassingly enough) and Irish heritage, have a white (Scottish) husband, am Christian, straight, have no children with anyone, and identify with being white…and I still think you’re full of shit.

How’s that?

He thought they said they had a “large HATEFUL audience”.

Yes, I am too aware of that! However, they don’t know about the debt-bonded servants in India and Pakistan. Meaning that they are almost like the Indentured Servants, except, they are working off debt for generations that may have resulted from a $10-15 dollar loan from 4 generations before them. So yes, it’s not just the untouchables.

I was mainly asking the question of what happens when they can’t really tell who is ‘white!’ I think that is a legitimate question, due to history is beginning to repeat itself. The only difference now, for instance, I can make my brown eyes blue with contact lenses.

I guess another question I can ask – ***I don’t like doing this because I apologized to the good posters here-I don’t want to sound like I am grouping an entire group of people like they do. However, I am just curious to know, they are insisting in ‘white,’ what happens if, as I mentioned earlier, people are having surgeries…one of the relatives, marry someone thinking they are ‘white,’ and find out later they are not? I’ll use this example, Mr. Sosa bleached his skin (no offense to Mr. Sosa), he finally admitted it. So what happens if they marry someone thinking they are a different race, then they have kids and the kids are ‘dark?’

I am just asking, because I remember when they thought Mariah Carey and former Ms. America Vanessa Williams was white! They were all too ready to claim them. They wanted to strip Vanessa Williams of her crown-yet, Playboy magazine had it biggest sale ever!

LISTEN… don’t get me wrong, whites (American Brits., English, Irish, French, German, etc…) have worked well together to formulate one of the most effective social systems to be the envy of the ENTIRE WORLD.

Everybody on the planet wants to come to the United States to be part of and live under the protection and freedoms guaranteed under the constitutions that we ALL have worked to formulate and adopt, giving us what we have today, the ability to live in PEACE, and the freedom to pursue prosperity equally, no matter what your views, beliefs, or culture might be.

All I am saying is that when one group sizes power exclusively… it doesn’t mater who that group is… absolute power tends to exclude. It is because of the ‘protectionism’ that isolated group’s form out of seemingly necessity. And I don’t blame them; everybody wants to feel secure that what they have worked hard for is protected.

“Herbert E. Larson” touched on it here…

*** The mob mentality is “a kind of hive mind” all working for the one purpose until it is done. The one that sets it all in motion is the sociopath, the rest are just working on safety in numbers or protecting the virtue of the community. It is empathy and telepathy in action, if only it could happen for a good purpose. ***

That’s good stuff… the key here is “ { if } the one that sets it all in motion is a sociopath”… the group mentality tends to protect it as well… “Jails” where mentioned here… well, that’s where you see it most obviously… in gang mentality… the rest following and support the leader no matter who, what, or how crazy he might be.

Mixed societies tend to form a natural governing to this phenomenon.

You HAVE TO BE CORRECT… because everybody’s not going to support you… just because you are black, or white, or Mexican, or Chinese, rich or poor.

You must speak for the betterment of EVERYBODY, and your policies must be ‘all inclusive’… or you will be voted DOWN.

IF YOU DON’T LIKE AMERICA ‘LEAVE’… GO GET YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!

Well, that sounds good… but the truth is… that’s not what ‘America’ is suppose to be… remember, all of the different cultures and ethnic groups left their former countries (Brittan, France, Europe, Ireland, etc…) because they did not like living under Totality Rule.

I think that what we’re ‘ALL’ talking about here… ‘is all of our jobs being taken by foreigners’… which brings us back to another problem entirely…

…THE CURRENCY SYSTEM.

As for saying that European countries were almost all white during the era of imperialism, one could point out that they were just as “white”(this identity meant absolutely nothing) during the dark ages when they were failing compared to the Islamic world and China.

I guess this is the simplest way I can say this to you. You are following groups and absorbing the agendas they want, then you will act out on it. The best example I can give you, talk to people who have spent time in prison – they will tell you that they did the same thing. They listened, and became involved in crimes against others. The people they were following gave them ‘hands-up, verbal appreciation…’ Yet, when they got locked up, these people were nowhere to be found. They didn’t send money or visit because they didn’t want any ‘light or involvement’ to come back to them. If you have family, this is a burden on your family – accepting collect calls, sending money to you…while trying to maintain their own burdens at home.

So again, they are your friends now. But when you get into trouble, watch how fast they will scramble to get away from you. If you are married, watch how fast this will put a strain on your marriage.

As far as your comments about being ‘white.’ Do you realize what you guys are doing? For instance, in Iran, Lebanon and some Asian countries, people are getting reconstructive surgery (plastic surgery) such as ‘nose jobs…’ to look ‘white.’ People in some Asian countries are bleaching their skin to look white. So, how will you really know who is ‘white?’ Seriously, with hair dyes, skin-bleaching, plastic surgery…in the end how will you know?

And the rhetoric the groups like yours spread is ridiculous. I’ve heard it all. I’ve seen it all. For example, you spread rumors that people from India don’t like blacks. In case you didn’t know, that’s what the caste system is all about in India. India has more problems that we don’t really need to get into. But, from what I see, you guys are trying to ‘pit one minority group against the other’ as a means of doing to a group what you really want to do yourselves.

Your group spread rumors that blacks can’t run a country – specifically, Africa! (But let’s make clear, Africa is a continent with African nations and countries). Yet, you don’t tell the whole truth about European and Arab colonization as well as bringing the same type ideas ‘white’ is better and therefore ‘superior.’

At the same time, never once, do you have any empathy. Never once do you think, ‘wow, what if that was me! What if I was born a different skin color!’ Nor do you ever stop to think ‘wow, what if I was born into a caste system.’

I also wonder if you ever think why some people flee to Western Nations? Think about it, there are some countries that really have a lid on immigration – example Japan, China, North Korea – meaning these countries don’t really have open immigration like U.S. and Britain. Yet, you have countries that you must have a certain income in order to retire there or live there-example, Costa Rica, Honduras….I’ll bet you didn’t notice, Canada raised the income qualifications for Americans wanting to migrate to Canada!

OK.. JJJJohnson, it is clear that you went back to your din and consolidated your thoughts with others to come up with your well-worded CRAP.

MEXICO… culturally known for lying and deception.

AFRICA… wide spread corruption.

CHINA… lying is acceptable unless you get caught; there is ‘No Loss Of Face’.

UNITED STATES… lying, corruption, cover-ups, meltdowns.

ZIONIST… Kicked out because they tried to correct the outdated and corrupt currency systems still in place in those countries… “again” by the few who control all the wealth.

*** jjjohnson Said: “and johnson is not my name. its something i made up” ***

SEE… he has no problem lying… he knows he’s well protected by his CLICK.

…and as for Johnson being a slave masters name… well, that’s precisely my point…

FACT… slave owners frequently had intercourse with slave females, to try to further increase their stock of slaves.

This was actually considered “normal” and encouraged during those times.

P.S.

Slaves did not adopt those names… they where forced to use the masters name or face being WHIPPED.

Signed… Toby.

Institutional racism in American business leads to groupthink and getting blindsided by the competition in a world market.

GM and Chrysler were run by middle age Republican white guys in Grosse Pointe.

They both went bankrupt.

We DO need an Amazon warrior in the board room. We need to start thinking out of the box.

Mr. Johnson did you know that you have a lot of kin in the black community… I know a whole lot of black people with the last name Johnson.

I bet you never thought that as a white man in America… you too might one day have to Pick COTTON too.

Tell me… is it scary standing in that soup line with those black people and Mexicans? You damn right it is.

However, this time I wouldn’t know… because this time, I was smart enough to manage my own PORTFOLLIO.

You reap what you sow.

Ha ha ha ha… Sociopath..!

When a crowd of 25 or more gather in the town square to watch the lynching of a 16 year old… trust me… there’s something deeper than ‘sociopathy’ going on.

When you drag a man out of his house (or shack) and order his wife and children out of the house to make them watch, as you tie one of his hands and foot to a horse… then tie his other hand and foot to another horse… strip him naked… and cover him with tar, then set him on fire, and stampede the horses in opposite directions ripping him apart while he’s still alive…

…then claim aloud in front of his wife and children that you do this so they can see that their father was “nothing”… and to make his wife fear teaching her children to be PROUD!

THERE’S A WHOLE HELL-OF-A-LOT MORE GOING ON THAN JUST BEING A SOCIOPATH.

This is about MONEY… and they stop at nothing… to make sure that they get THEIRS!

I hope money has value in HELL… cause that’s where they’re going.

LIVE BY THE SWARD… DIE BY IT.

They talk about what Hitler did to the Jews (killing over 3 million of them)… as being horrible…

…well… here’s a fact that the whole world is hoping you don’t find out… over 300 million blacks where killed during the 400 years of slavery… “Three Hundred Million”.

And even today… they ‘refuse’ to even ‘try’ to give blacks a hand.

I ain’t talking about the AVERAGE white person… most white folks are OK… it’s that CLICK (the wealth holders)… who keep ‘US ALL DOWN’… bickering amongst ourselves.

It’s a clever plot… to keep the focus off of them.

And as long as he (wealth holder) was paying whitey a decent wage… you turned a blind eye.

Now look at you… your butt is drowning now too (just like the Negro)… now you wanna holler FRAWD and THIEF… ha, ha, ha, ha… you’re so scared… you even put a Negro in the white house… saying “ok, now here’s yo’ chance boy… now go get’em… fo’ they kill us all…!

HA HA HA HA HA… ROTFLMAO..! That’s right, I’m ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING MY ASS OFF.

But hell… Obama’s no different… he’s even got the same people on his team that Bush had… don’t you see… it’s a kind-of-people… NOT a color of people.

You had him… but you couldn’t see it… Mike Huckabee…

The Base Guitar sells records… not the Lead… or the singer… hell, you can get anybody to sing… but the base sets the pace.

Berry Gordy knew that.

I can’t believe you wrote all of that stuff… I sat here staring at it thinking… jesus I can’t believe I gotta read all of this.

Then I read it, and I’m glad I did.

THANK YOU… that’s good stuff… *** “it becomes difficult to focus on our own positive identity as it becomes tied with a negative identity of excluding, avoiding, or even hating difference.” ***

That’s powerful stuff my friend… I’ll keep that in mind as I continue my own struggles.

However, I must admit that it is difficult when I see those white hoods and robes. Going forward, I will try to see the humor in it.

And you’re right, hatred of any kind is self-perpetuating… and self-destructive.

I had a race encounter today… I was so mad, that when I got home I forgot to even check the stock market… thank God it was closed today.

Thank you Charles.

I think ‘Russ’ is right… white’s do have the right, and should, protect themselves from being oppressed… just like everybody else.

JUST BE CLEAR ON THIS…

This ‘Does Not’ give them the right to oppress others in the process. Your group consist of a vast array of people (German, English, French, British, Irish, Slavic, Russian… the list goes on, and on, probably about 20 more could be added here) my point is, that’s quite a lot of people to rally themselves against just a hand full of black people… are you that scared that minorities might ‘outperform you’ in the workplace?

SUMMERY;

As long as we ALL keep the playing field fair and open (meaning; may the best MAN win… not… ‘may my best FRIEND win’). Then and only then will we see true growth for America.

Right now… there’s no competition for whites to worry about… because your FRIEND got you in, and your FRIEND has got your back, so there’s no REAL pressure for you to “outperform, and overachieve”… as a result… foreign companies are gaining on, and out performing American Companies at an alarming rate.

WARNING;

The United States is quickly becoming number 3 in the world (not militarily) but in every other aspect. Partly to blame, is because you’re free to ‘lie’ and ‘Cover-up’ cause you know your “friend” has got your back and won’t hold you accountable.

SOLUTION:

Stop playing games… bring in Top Talent, period… Black, White, or Blue.

“Only ‘serious’ need apply”… there was a time when that actually use to mean something.

Just the stupid ones

Obviously this isn’t abot race, it is about sick, twisted ideology.

I always say, ideology is for idiots. Russ proves that beyond a doubt.

What they fail to realize, every nationality had something great to contribute to this country. I bet they don’t realize, as they attack the Jewish people, that their beloved Elvis Presley wouldn’t have made it without the Jewish songwriters, Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller. They wrote Hound Dog, Jail House Rock….In fact, these were the guys that brought Rock and Roll to the U.S.

I’ll also bet, they didn’t know, as they attack blacks, singers Janis Joplin and Elvis was influenced by black singer Willie Mae “Big Mama” Thornton.

You guys bring a smile to my face! What a joy to read your comments. It was great to read your comments.

I’m not on a particular side. I don’t come down on either side of these 2 ideological groups. I don’t identify with bigotry no matter what the color. Basically I see 2 groups out there who are trying to marginalize minorities from everyday american society. On one side you have the white pride / kkk / call it what you want, and on the other side you have modern liberalism, rampant in the media and in academia. Both sides want to claim that black people, asian people, jews, etc… are so different that we have to treat them as different. White supremacist-types tend to want to separate FROM them, and liberal types typically want TO separate THEM from regular american society by making them somehow extra special. It’s a wonder how a black man can live his life and not feel disappointed to know how much he is being patronized by the academic community like Howard Zinn and media types like Keith Olbermann. Those people live in suburban neighborhoods and ivory towers while they promote minorities to create black clubs and lesbian clubs and the glamourization of the ghetto. I don’t oppose any of those groups, but I’m tired of hearing them portrayed as special groups. It would be much better knowing that everyone is judging each other by their character. To me, those groups are just as polarizing as the white supremacist groups, and often just as obnoxious.

Let me play the world’s smallest violin for you, Russ.

Also, to the one who claimed White nationalist organizations want to be left alone- why then do they flyer neighborhoods and have public protests?