Viscosity

WELL LET ME TELL YOU, YOU ARE AN IGNORANT ILLITERATE IDIOT WHO SAID ISLAM DON’T BELIEVE IN JESUS HE IS 1 OF THE PROPHET IN THE MUSLIM RELIGION…GET EDUCATED AND GROW UP..THE MUSLIM RELIGION ACCEPT ALL RELIGION I SUGGEST U DO THE SAME

I have studied several religions to some degree. None of them can be iron-clad because they are all open to interpretation. The original authors are not here to state what God told them to write.

And Jack, there are tons of verses in the Bible that extole the killing of one’s enemies. It’s not just the Koran the mentions it. Every Christian bible that I’ve ever picked up has mention of it.

Gandhi said, “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christian’s so much.” I tend to agree with him.

And Jessi, I’m terribly sorry but Jesus, assuming he existed, did not rise from the dead, and there is no hell or heaven.

She deserves about as much attention as a speck of dust on the ground.

Well, I am not rewriting it.

No wonder you didn’t include the sura and ayat(it’s Al Baqara 191). Let’s have a look at the context, shall we?

“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.” [Al-Qur’an 2:190-191]”

“But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.” [Al-Qur’an 2:192-193]”

UH OH! Look what happened when we put it in context. See the repeated references to “oppression”? This refers to the oppression and persecution of the Muslims by the pagan Quraysh of Mecca. Prior to this revelation, any kind of killing was forbidden. This is why the Muslims left Mecca instead of fighting. What these revelations reveal is the Muslim cause for a just war- it is clearly defensive.

If Islam truly commands its followers to jihad, and Bin Laden’s Salafism(which is not recognized as legitimate by any Islamic school of jurisprudence) is in fact the norm, we might ask why the overwhelming majority of Muslims worldwide are not engaged in a violent jihad, actively or passively.

Now as for the idiotic “moon cult” claim, the crescent was not associated with Islam at all until some time after the conquest of Persia, where the crescent was used on some coinage. However, it did not become the symbol of Islam until later, when the Turks converted and later became rulers of the Islamic world. The crescent is a sacred Turkic symbol,

There is nothing in the Koran or the Hadith suggesting that one should worship the moon, or anything which could be construed as such. There IS however, a verse forbidding such things:

“Among His Signs are the Night and the Day, and the Sun and the Moon. DO NOT prostrate to the sun and the moon, but prostrate to Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve.”

If you had really studied Islam, you would know that numerous verses forbid associating ANYTHING, much less the moon, with Allah.

FAIL.

Ali’s translation referring to Kafir’s (anyone who isn’t Muslim.)

BTW, Ali’s translation, like most Korans, does not follow a time line and is arranged by chapter size. It is easy to use traditional translations to confuse and hide the truth.
Muhammed was far more conciliatory to other faiths at the beginning when he was trying to coopt them under his rule.

His true evil intentions come out later in the timeline.

Most Westerners do not realize this feature of the Koran and are easily misled.

Islam is nothing but a moon cult used by Mohammed to create a hybrid political/religious leader. Where do you think the crescent comes from?

I suggest you get yourself a translation that is arranged by time, not chapter size.
You are, like most, misled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.....projection

Most of the fundie Christians I have encountered in my life like to point the finger at other religions in the hopes of directing people’s attention away from the injustice and violence perpetrated in the name of their own faith.

I say let them have their “free speech” since when it is so outlandish it only makes them look like the nut jobs they are. It also helps to make clear the rights of others.

No they are not. They are doing EXACTLY what is called for in the Koran.

You obviously have never read one.

On the UF campus, this most often takes the form of two women, presumably in their mid-to-late-twenties, walking around spreading their message of hatred. What’s even worse about this is the fact that these two women are pushing strollers carrying their infants!

I believe that these people can say whatever they so choose, but for the love of all that is right and decent, stay the hell away from my campus!

On another note, I’m from Lexington, MA, where we host a nearly annual “visit” by the WBC, and I can honestly say that if this is the “real” Florida, the kooks can keep it. As soon as I graduate at the end of the summer, I’m hightailing it back up north to where we have at least a slightly higher reign of sanity.

Florida isn’t called the “F-State” for nothing.

Bullying caused Columbine.

As a western-born Muslim and convert (some 30 years ago) and who now has settled in North West Africa I watch the ugly hands of radicalism often enough. The actions and events are, if anything, exactly the same as the forms of radicalism that often infects my Muslim world, and hyocritically they cite as evidence.

I do find one element important – much of the radical, mind-boggling and inexcusable ugliness that often is seen by radical Muslims is a creation of poverty, illiteracy and blatant corruption. What is the excuse of those from middle-America?

Ironically, the Muslim world is growing – albiet at a snail’s pace and confronting the radicalism within it and often the worst vocal intolerants amongst its radicals are now based in the west. Now add those fringe radicals like this one and others that are also in the west makes me wonder seriously if radicalism is in fact on the rise in the west and perhaps on the decline over here.

Of topic – bravo to a very good website.

Solkhar
Marrakech

Who cares? It’s their property.

Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.) shares this rejection of Islamophobic hate by the Dove World Outreach center that we have also previously written about. We urge all to Choose Love, Not Hate.