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	<title>Comments on: White National Event Canceled Yet Again</title>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-148552</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who the hell said YOU personally are responsible for that persecution?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the hell said YOU personally are responsible for that persecution?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-148422</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Haven’t we persecuted blacks and other minorities long enough.&quot; - TIM

Oh yes Tim, I live in a city which is under 1% black and I have met almost none in my entire life but I sure am responsible for their historical persecution!!  After all, I have white skin so I must be guilty according to you!

And you wonder why someone would call you or Snorlax racist?  You say not to judge people based on skin color and that is EXACTLY what you do.

So your moral system is: racism is good, as long as you direct it towards white people.  Just admit that you are not &quot;anti-racist&quot;, but anti-white.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Haven’t we persecuted blacks and other minorities long enough.&#8221; &#8211; TIM</p>
<p>Oh yes Tim, I live in a city which is under 1% black and I have met almost none in my entire life but I sure am responsible for their historical persecution!!  After all, I have white skin so I must be guilty according to you!</p>
<p>And you wonder why someone would call you or Snorlax racist?  You say not to judge people based on skin color and that is EXACTLY what you do.</p>
<p>So your moral system is: racism is good, as long as you direct it towards white people.  Just admit that you are not &#8220;anti-racist&#8221;, but anti-white.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-148408</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What &quot;violent&quot; tactics were used? Amren has yet to provide any evidence that death threats were involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What &#8220;violent&#8221; tactics were used? Amren has yet to provide any evidence that death threats were involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-148153</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will the SPLC at least go on record and say that Jared Taylor and American Renaissance have the right to free speech and assembly, and denounce the violent tactics that shut them down? 

Or are these loony leftitss just using less sophisticated means to the same totalitarian ends that the SPLC supports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the SPLC at least go on record and say that Jared Taylor and American Renaissance have the right to free speech and assembly, and denounce the violent tactics that shut them down? </p>
<p>Or are these loony leftitss just using less sophisticated means to the same totalitarian ends that the SPLC supports.</p>
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		<title>By: TIM</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-147780</link>
		<dc:creator>TIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kute Kountry Cousin (KKK)
Way to go Snorlax.
Haven&#039;t we persecuted blacks and other minorities long enough. 
JUST STOP IT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kute Kountry Cousin (KKK)<br />
Way to go Snorlax.<br />
Haven&#8217;t we persecuted blacks and other minorities long enough.<br />
JUST STOP IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-147777</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yes it is different. Unless the blacks are a black supremacist group (SPLC watches these groups too) then this is an apples-and-oranges comparison.&quot; - Snorlax

So who gets to decide what thoughts in a person&#039;s head a person must have to prevent them from organization.  Furthermore, can the SPLC actually prove ANYTHING they claim about amren, or do they merely assert it constantly until people unable to think critically like Snorlax start to believe it?

What if a person claimed a group of black people had supremacist thoughts in their head but was unable to prove it?  Would that be an acceptable reason to prevent the group from peacefully assembling?  After all, who needs proof for anything right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes it is different. Unless the blacks are a black supremacist group (SPLC watches these groups too) then this is an apples-and-oranges comparison.&#8221; &#8211; Snorlax</p>
<p>So who gets to decide what thoughts in a person&#8217;s head a person must have to prevent them from organization.  Furthermore, can the SPLC actually prove ANYTHING they claim about amren, or do they merely assert it constantly until people unable to think critically like Snorlax start to believe it?</p>
<p>What if a person claimed a group of black people had supremacist thoughts in their head but was unable to prove it?  Would that be an acceptable reason to prevent the group from peacefully assembling?  After all, who needs proof for anything right?</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-147514</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kute Kountry Kousin (KKK) said, 
&quot;This is no different than keeping blacks out a hotel because the locals don’t like blacks and they don’t like blacks organizing. The Amren group is being persecuted because of their beliefs.&quot;

Yes it is different.  Unless the blacks are a black supremacist group (SPLC watches these groups too) then this is an apples-and-oranges comparison.

When blacks are denied lodging (which is illegal) it is usually due to racist innkeepers.

This is different than racists being denied a conference room to spew their hate in front of other hotel guests.

Big difference.  But then, you&#039;re KKK and are going to defend these racist goons no matter what.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kute Kountry Kousin (KKK) said,<br />
&#8220;This is no different than keeping blacks out a hotel because the locals don’t like blacks and they don’t like blacks organizing. The Amren group is being persecuted because of their beliefs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes it is different.  Unless the blacks are a black supremacist group (SPLC watches these groups too) then this is an apples-and-oranges comparison.</p>
<p>When blacks are denied lodging (which is illegal) it is usually due to racist innkeepers.</p>
<p>This is different than racists being denied a conference room to spew their hate in front of other hotel guests.</p>
<p>Big difference.  But then, you&#8217;re KKK and are going to defend these racist goons no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: daemonesslisa</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-147364</link>
		<dc:creator>daemonesslisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, it&#039;s completely different.  Black people were kept out of these places just because they&#039;re black, not because of any political leanings (which placed a distant second).  And anyway, it&#039;s not like YOU care about black people, so don&#039;t even bring up that argument!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s completely different.  Black people were kept out of these places just because they&#8217;re black, not because of any political leanings (which placed a distant second).  And anyway, it&#8217;s not like YOU care about black people, so don&#8217;t even bring up that argument!</p>
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		<title>By: Kute Kountry Kousin</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-147308</link>
		<dc:creator>Kute Kountry Kousin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is no different than keeping blacks out a hotel because the locals don&#039;t like blacks and they don&#039;t like blacks organizing. The Amren group is being persecuted because of their beliefs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is no different than keeping blacks out a hotel because the locals don&#8217;t like blacks and they don&#8217;t like blacks organizing. The Amren group is being persecuted because of their beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tezuka fan</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-147079</link>
		<dc:creator>Tezuka fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will Jared give them a refund? I mean, they are racist scumbags and I feel sorry for their children and neighbors who have to hear the nonsense they spew, but $135 dollars towards a racist conference that doesn&#039;t happen?
... Well, if I was high/drunk enough to go, I&#039;d want a refund even if the conference went off. What a waste of time and money that would have been.

Note: The &quot;high/drunk enough&quot; part was to illistrate that I would only ever consider going if I had lost all rational judgement. Around the same level as thinking the things done on Jackass looked safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Jared give them a refund? I mean, they are racist scumbags and I feel sorry for their children and neighbors who have to hear the nonsense they spew, but $135 dollars towards a racist conference that doesn&#8217;t happen?<br />
&#8230; Well, if I was high/drunk enough to go, I&#8217;d want a refund even if the conference went off. What a waste of time and money that would have been.</p>
<p>Note: The &#8220;high/drunk enough&#8221; part was to illistrate that I would only ever consider going if I had lost all rational judgement. Around the same level as thinking the things done on Jackass looked safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-147060</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rubell dumped this Klan Bake as soon as they heard about it.

I bet they dunp the hotel manager too.

Racism is bad for business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubell dumped this Klan Bake as soon as they heard about it.</p>
<p>I bet they dunp the hotel manager too.</p>
<p>Racism is bad for business.</p>
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		<title>By: muaythai</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-146989</link>
		<dc:creator>muaythai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just trying to figure out who&#039;s the bigger douche- Jared Taylor, who apparently hasn&#039;t discovered the spell-check function in his email app or Jeffery Imm, who looks like an insane hobbit on his facebook profile. AmRen and R.E.A.L. are both definitely tied for worst organization name. Keep it r.e.a.l. at the Ren faire, yo.

Seriously, just let them have their conference. It&#039;s going to happen no matter what- this wussy drop-a-dime to the hotel management crap is just egging them on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just trying to figure out who&#8217;s the bigger douche- Jared Taylor, who apparently hasn&#8217;t discovered the spell-check function in his email app or Jeffery Imm, who looks like an insane hobbit on his facebook profile. AmRen and R.E.A.L. are both definitely tied for worst organization name. Keep it r.e.a.l. at the Ren faire, yo.</p>
<p>Seriously, just let them have their conference. It&#8217;s going to happen no matter what- this wussy drop-a-dime to the hotel management crap is just egging them on.</p>
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		<title>By: Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-146944</link>
		<dc:creator>Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somehow I think that WN just don&#039;t understand that their appeal is based on a negative agenda and NO amount of dressing that up in a cloak of &quot;wanting to address the white European needs, fellowship, &amp; heritage&quot; can make that go away.
What many of the organizers simply don&#039;t understand is that swastikas and screaming skinheads are just not appealing to the MAJORITY of Americans &amp; Canadians. As well, most people see through the subtle agenda of Holocaust denial dressed in academia - like a garden slug with a satin ribbon.
David Duke may have as many face lifts as his supporters can buy but his message is still the same. The idea that Americans would benefit from separation is just not important to the average &quot;Joe Six-pack&quot;.

Even those who are politically right of center draw a line in the sand that they don&#039;t cross (Generally that is &quot;burning crosses&quot;).
This is one reason why I refuse to call Republicans or Democrats names or dismiss the Right or Left when I disagree with a perspective. In most people there is a &quot;common good and common ground&quot;. When that is lost, the person becomes emotionally &amp; socially disturbed. There are many reasons to disagree with someone who thinks differntly politically but the base of human decency is there in the majority. If it were not - we would see these organizations thrive. They do not thrive. Pribncipally becasue their message is a negitivie one.

The MORE that is examined the more people of differing political permutations can agree on elemental issues.. 
We DID have periods where the Klan thrived in this country (1920&#039;s, etc). What is important is the reasons that happened &amp; the reasons they do not today. 
Education (via organized programs such as the SPLC has) and the broad sweep of what electronic means of communication provide is to build a slow but steady influx of how we all operate in a similar fashion, emotionally, intellectually, spiritually, socially, etc.
Once a person knows that others feel the same and are not so different, the easier it is to loose the FEAR of a &quot;different&quot; culture, etc.

I believe that it is a disservice to &quot;attack&quot; a differing political (as opposed to racism) perspective with names &amp; disruptive dialog. What is beneficial is to find a commonality. Through that commonality we can agree that all peoples deserve certain inalienable rights!
THAT is the starting point of progress that benefits rather than hinders communication.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I think that WN just don&#8217;t understand that their appeal is based on a negative agenda and NO amount of dressing that up in a cloak of &#8220;wanting to address the white European needs, fellowship, &amp; heritage&#8221; can make that go away.<br />
What many of the organizers simply don&#8217;t understand is that swastikas and screaming skinheads are just not appealing to the MAJORITY of Americans &amp; Canadians. As well, most people see through the subtle agenda of Holocaust denial dressed in academia &#8211; like a garden slug with a satin ribbon.<br />
David Duke may have as many face lifts as his supporters can buy but his message is still the same. The idea that Americans would benefit from separation is just not important to the average &#8220;Joe Six-pack&#8221;.</p>
<p>Even those who are politically right of center draw a line in the sand that they don&#8217;t cross (Generally that is &#8220;burning crosses&#8221;).<br />
This is one reason why I refuse to call Republicans or Democrats names or dismiss the Right or Left when I disagree with a perspective. In most people there is a &#8220;common good and common ground&#8221;. When that is lost, the person becomes emotionally &amp; socially disturbed. There are many reasons to disagree with someone who thinks differntly politically but the base of human decency is there in the majority. If it were not &#8211; we would see these organizations thrive. They do not thrive. Pribncipally becasue their message is a negitivie one.</p>
<p>The MORE that is examined the more people of differing political permutations can agree on elemental issues..<br />
We DID have periods where the Klan thrived in this country (1920&#8242;s, etc). What is important is the reasons that happened &amp; the reasons they do not today.<br />
Education (via organized programs such as the SPLC has) and the broad sweep of what electronic means of communication provide is to build a slow but steady influx of how we all operate in a similar fashion, emotionally, intellectually, spiritually, socially, etc.<br />
Once a person knows that others feel the same and are not so different, the easier it is to loose the FEAR of a &#8220;different&#8221; culture, etc.</p>
<p>I believe that it is a disservice to &#8220;attack&#8221; a differing political (as opposed to racism) perspective with names &amp; disruptive dialog. What is beneficial is to find a commonality. Through that commonality we can agree that all peoples deserve certain inalienable rights!<br />
THAT is the starting point of progress that benefits rather than hinders communication.</p>
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		<title>By: daemonesslisa</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-146938</link>
		<dc:creator>daemonesslisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About 40 of them gathered at a local Bertucci&#039;s.  THIS ended up being that long-awaited conference!  Truly pathetic lot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 40 of them gathered at a local Bertucci&#8217;s.  THIS ended up being that long-awaited conference!  Truly pathetic lot.</p>
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		<title>By: James J. Endicott</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/22/white-national-event-canceled-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-146917</link>
		<dc:creator>James J. Endicott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“[O]ur emphasis was to... provide a counter-message of diversity, hope and love,” 

By denying them the chance to peaceably assemble and exercise their freedom of speech?  However misguided one might believe them to be, don&#039;t they have those rights?

I don&#039;t know when it was that the left became so vicious, hateful and tyrannical, but it is a shame, and it is un-American in the extreme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“[O]ur emphasis was to&#8230; provide a counter-message of diversity, hope and love,” </p>
<p>By denying them the chance to peaceably assemble and exercise their freedom of speech?  However misguided one might believe them to be, don&#8217;t they have those rights?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know when it was that the left became so vicious, hateful and tyrannical, but it is a shame, and it is un-American in the extreme.</p>
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