Hatewatch Tweets
Hatewatch is managed by the staff of the Intelligence Report, an investigative magazine published by the Alabama-based civil rights group Southern Poverty Law Center.
Website Blames Whites for, Well, Just About Everything
The white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) is well known for showcasing stories on its website that present African Americans in a bad light. Examples this year: “Gonorrhea is now almost exclusively a black disease” and “Black thugs hold white teens captive while raping and torturing them.” American Patrol, an anti-immigrant hate group, takes the same approach with its American Patrol Report that endlessly maligns Latinos, especially those in the United States illegally. Some recent headlines on its website: “Mexican police chief decapitated” and “More than 100 illegals, others arrested at cockfight.” Not as well known, but equally racist is an Internet blog called White Watch. Its target: White folks.
“The purpose of this blog is an honest, no holds barred discussion about white people,” White Watch’s home page declares. “While some white people are gentle and enlightened souls, most unfortunately are not.” The statement goes on to say that most terrorists are white, the most destructive wars are waged by whites and whites are the main culprits in producing pornography and harming the environment, and are the most likely to be pedophiles, rapists and mass murderers. Still, while joyfully bashing white people, White Watch stresses that violence against any group based on their race, religion and the like “is abhorrent and unacceptable.”
It’s no secret that Gordon Baum heads CCC, and Glenn Spencer is well known as the man at the helm of American Patrol. But White Watch’s creator does not identify him or herself. A few people who have posted comments on the blog have speculated that he is white. In fact, it sometimes seems like White Watch is a parody — while the CCC and American Border sites are unrelentingly humorless, White Watch inserts occasionally funny sub-headlines on stories. It also has a recurring feature titled “Stupid White Inventions.” Still, like the CCC and American Patrol pages, the overall thrust of White Watch is certainly plain old race hate.
Whoever created White Watch shares with Baum and Spencer a fondness for posting what are seen as embarrassing news stories about the racial group he is skewering. At White Watch that means the worst and wackiest of white people. Headlines have included: “HIV Positive White Man Rapes Teenage Boy,” “Lazy Brit fined for walking dog from his car” and “White Woman Attacks Cop…With Her Breast Milk.” Of course she had nothing on “Germans Caught Having Sex In The Middle of a Busy Street” — with a photo of the amorous Aryans. There was a story on a morbidly obese woman — white, of course — who says she hopes to gorge until she reaches 1,000 pounds. And another story about a white guy stoned on pot and whiskey who left his 5-week old son in an oven overnight. (The oven was unlit and the door was ajar.)
White Watch has generated dozens upon dozens of vile, crude, ungrammatical and misspelled racist comments — whites griping about blacks and vice versa. It all was a bit much for one woman. “I feel there is way to [sic] much generalization on both the white & blak [sic] side of things…we are all HUMAN BEINGS! Why can’t we just all each treat each other as such!!!”
If White Watch, the CCC and American Border report are any barometer, she’d better not hold her breath awaiting that day.
on April 1st, 2010 at 8:36 am
HEY! WHY COME THE SPLC NEVER WRITES ABOUT RACISM AGAINST WHITES?!!!!
Seriously though, either this is a parody, or perhaps a more complex version of a WN false flag operation.
on April 1st, 2010 at 8:45 am
This may be a parody but it serves a legitimate purpose. Every time we have a headline screaming “Illegal kills two after botched drug deal”, the message being conveyed is that undocumented immigrants commit crimes.
The fact, however, is that you can compare police records and Census figures (or any estimate you want on the numbers of undocumented immigrants — the higher ones come from the nativists usually) and determine with little room for doubt that undocumented aliens are by far LESS LIKELY to commit serious crimes (those of violence or property theft) than citizens.
The response from most nativists is well they’re criminals for being here. But this too is misleading because driving without a car registration doesn’t make a citizen any more likely to commit murder, nor does not having a visa make anyone more prone to criminality.
The reverse is true: because they live here to work and sustain hopes for a better life, they shun crime and will do anything they can to find a wage.
So I see this as a very valid website. The next time you see someone blaming illegal aliens (stereotypically) for crime, degenerate morals, low skills, and shameful behavior, you can point to the white site and say, well, here we see non-aliens, and non-minorities doing all manner of foolish and criminal acts.
It does not exist to fan hatred. It exists to ironize and call attention to the stupidity of common arguments about race, national origin, and document status.
I like it.
on April 1st, 2010 at 11:07 am
We seriously doubt the SPLC is changing its stripes Ruslan.
Just hot air that does not change the obvious mission of the SPLC.
on April 1st, 2010 at 11:35 am
If you ever bothered to look, you would see that the SPLC tracks non-white hate groups.
on April 1st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
April Fools.
on April 1st, 2010 at 2:21 pm
If you bothered to look at the Intelligence Report where they report what hate crimes have occurred in each state, they also list hate crimes done to “white” people. In a recent SPLC publication, there was an exhaustive list of hate groups, which included a long list of anti-white ones. The incident where the black youths beat up a white youth on a school bus was also condemned by the SPLC. So much for the accusations of racial bias. You might want to explore the Web site a lot further.
on April 1st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Explains the lack of a link.
on April 1st, 2010 at 3:20 pm
From the article: “But White Watch’s creator does not identify him or herself.”
[Me] Maybe it’s “Beholder”!!
[Beholder] So I see this as a very valid website. The next time you see someone blaming illegal aliens (stereotypically) for crime, degenerate morals, low skills, and shameful behavior, you can point to the white site and say, well, here we see non-aliens, and non-minorities doing all manner of foolish and criminal acts.
[Me] Has it ever occurred to you that we have enough problems with our citizens, and we don’t need any more trouble marching into this country? Think about it, please.
[Beholder] It does not exist to fan hatred. It exists to ironize and call attention to the stupidity of common arguments about race, national origin, and document status. I like it.
[Me] Of course you like “White Watch”. It is an anti-white website, and you are definitely an anti-white racist.
on April 1st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I have observed that most racism, no matter which “race” it comes from is usually the result of a mixture of ignorance, anger, and self hatred. Therefore, I am not going to try and persuade anyone who has already made up their minds on who they are going to hate. Haters usually self destruct anyway.
on April 1st, 2010 at 5:21 pm
The sites archives go back several years so I don’t think it’s an April fools joke Leslie.
Maybe, who knows but looks legit.
NTX, DEAD ON about beholder.
They love the blog here too because just look at the name:
“Keeping an eye on the radical right.”
We all understand the code, “right” means white or white male. “Radical” just means you want your immigration laws enforced and believe in our sovereignty.
It was carefully chosen, the marketing behind SPLC is cleverly crafted.
You would expect it to be something like:
“Keeping an eye on radicals” or “Keeping an eye on political violence” if they were as objective as they proclaim to be.
“The response from most nativists is well they’re criminals for being here. But this too is misleading because driving without a car registration doesn’t make a citizen any more likely to commit murder, nor does not having a visa make anyone more prone to criminality.”
Of course it does, if you have no problem picking and choosing what laws you will obey, breaking one to the next is a short step, like all the illegals that perform endless identity theft.
on April 1st, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Here is a good gem from the site:
“The white race must be pacified and civilized for the betterment of the planet. This will become a reality as enlightened whites shed their racist heritage and rejoin the human race as equals.”
Sounds like what they meant to say is we have to dethrone the master. If we were so pitiful you wouldn’t have to be trying to drag us down.
The tripe their is amusing, just more justification for the greatness of Western Civilization.
on April 1st, 2010 at 5:43 pm
@NTX
Are you PM’ing Beholder or is Beholder with you or what?
Or are you making a joke and I should stop analyzing so much.
on April 1st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Best April 1st posting yet.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 1:10 am
If someone had the free time, such a site would be a good idea. It’s fun to watch how WNs will blame any heinous acts by whites on “the Jews” and the media, while when minorities commit the same acts they insist that it is genetically inherent.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
[NTX] Has it ever occurred to you that we have enough problems with our citizens, and we don’t need any more trouble marching into this country? Think about it, please.
[beholder] Your argument is silly. You want to stop illegal immigration because they behave like … people. So, what you are really saying is you don’t want to be around human beings period.
And you know what, I don’t think anyone would mind if you did crawl into some lean to in the desert and remain there, peeking out all by yourself at the humanity crusing by on the highway past your hidey hole and caring nothing for your paranoid misanthropy and quivering stare.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
A sovereign country owes its first allegiance to its citizens, period. Those who come here illegally to “have a better life for themselves/their families” take what is not theirs, and what is not intended for them. In fact, they are thieves. I don’t care what color, nationality, etc. they are, they are thieves. We have a means whereby people can immigrate here legally, in fact hundreds of thousands do every year.
This country does not owe anything to people who choose to come here illegally. Our courts grant them basic civil liberties, but they are not required to do so. So long as this country acts as a ‘pressure valve’ for malcontents in other countries, is how long those countries will be plagued by whatever problems those individuals are running away from. We as a sovereign country cannot force our will upon other sovereign countries; the change must come from within – basically, from citizens of those countries demanding change.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 am
Jack said, on April 1st, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Here is a good gem from the site:
“The white race must be pacified and civilized for the betterment of the planet. This will become a reality as enlightened whites shed their racist heritage and rejoin the human race as equals.”
[Me] Jack – Where did this statement occur in the website? Was it an article, or a blog post?
on April 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
Tezuka fan said, on April 1st, 2010 at 5:43 pm
@NTX
Are you PM’ing Beholder or is Beholder with you or what?
Or are you making a joke and I should stop analyzing so much.
[Me] I don’t know who this “Beholder” person is. This person was making racist statements on another blog, and is evidently messing with me here. Whatever.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
Jack said, on April 1st, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Here is a good gem from the site:
“The white race must be pacified and civilized for the betterment of the planet. This will become a reality as enlightened whites shed their racist heritage and rejoin the human race as equals.”
[Me] Jack – where does this ‘good gem’ appear on the site? I hope it was from a comment, not from an article…
on April 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
The website White Watch keeps track of crimes commited by whites, while simultaneously raving about how whites have screwed up everything and how the world would be better off if they didn’t exist. Sounds just like pretty much 85% of all looney leftie sites and other form of media, including mainstream. So what if SPLC mentions anti-white bias and racism? It won’t matter, because overall, the vast majority of whites are the most timid and least demanding of all peoples in U.S. And that’s not the least because of the prevailing attitudes that hatred towards majority = good, against minority = bad.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
To NTX:
Those words are off their front page, on the RHS under “About” right above the “follow me on twitter” link.
Their website is run by real geniuses, right now it has one image covering up half the page.
http://whitewatch.wordpress.com/
They have been updating as they are all in a tizzy because the SPLC mentioned them. Cockroaches hate the light.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
NTX said,
on April 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
A sovereign country owes its first allegiance to its citizens, period.
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Maybe or maybe not. But in this country, we are governed by the United States Constitution. And that states, in the 14th Amendment, that all persons are to receive equal treatment under the law in our jurisdiction, which includes unauthorized immigrants.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
NTX said,
on April 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
” I don’t know who this “Beholder” person is. This person was making racist statements on another blog, and is evidently messing with me here.”
————
Obviously not me if there were racist statements involved. All I said is what the law says, that white people have to give up some of what they’ve got. Article 42 Section 1981 line and verse of federal civil rights code. Read it sweet pea, and be learned.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 4:40 pm
TO Beholder:
One of the myriad reasons why the 14th should be dumped.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Loon Chelene Nightingale for governor 2010, accusing the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA of being behind 9-11!!!!!!!! What is wrong with this radical nut??? How dare she slam America!!! She makes me sick and should make everyone in America sick. Read all over the internet about her conspiracy ranting she needs her head examined. First she was bullying Immigrants NOW THE America?? NIGHTINGALE IS A SICK FRAUD.
on April 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
[Beholder] “…in this country, we are governed by the United States Constitution. And that states, in the 14th Amendment, that all persons are to receive equal treatment under the law in our jurisdiction, which includes unauthorized immigrants.”
[Me] CITIZENS are governed by the U.S. Constitution, and are afforded liberties under same. Our constitution does actually does not extend to citizens of other countries who choose to breach our borders and come here illegally, just as it wouldn’t extend to citizens of other countries who reside in those other countries. People who come here illegally are still citizens of whatever country they have left. The 14th amendment is actually about “birthright citizenship” (though you have chosen to present it as otherwise), and was enacted to protect the rights of black people – former slaves, in fact. There is actually no provision for children of those here illegally to be automatically considered “citizens”. The decision of adults to come here and procreate for the express intent and purpose of forcing legal citizens of this country to afford them citizenship as a “package deal” is not covered by the 14th Amendment. Our courts have allowed the “anchor baby” status so far, but because of our country’s current economic difficulties, this practice has been facing increased scrutiny. LULAC and La Raza have tried the pity plea, where they cry that ICE and our laws “split up families”. In actuality, families are not split up unless illegals slated for deportation choose not to bring their children with them when they leave.
on April 3rd, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Here is some blatant racism from whitewatch
HIV Positive White Man Rapes Teenage Boy
“This sick phenomenon has been going on decades yet white refuse to identify and prosecute the monsters who prey on their own children?”
“White Man Charged With Stealing And Then Raping Neighbor’s Dog
“White Man admits having sex with 1,000 cars
Another white first. No muffler is safe. Fuel injection service STDs?”
No animal left behind…”
on April 4th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
This is not a hate site. It does not promote hate or violence. It is an exposure site, exposing what whites don’t want to hear. And before you slur me, guess what? I’m white. But I’m not a head burying, stupid white. I know that atrocities occur in all ethnicities, not just “the others.”
Calling this a hate site? Absurd. Calling it racist? Equally absurd, unless racism has suddenly become the exclusive right of whites to dish out to others while hiding from their own shortcomings via hypocrisy.
Seriously, who granted whites any special privilege? I don’t expect any special treatment because I’m a blonde, educated, white woman. I expect to earn my keep, not blame others for my mistakes, and sure as heck don’t dismiss the fact that evils are perpetrated by whites too so that I can keep some false sense of superiority.
Apparently, that is what those bleating about racism against whites are doing. Hiding from the fact that whites are no different than any other group. The only difference is that whites seem to be better at denying the fact that they, too, are flawed.
I want my country back? You betcha. I want it back from semi-literate, fear mongering idiots.
Peace to all.
on April 4th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Jack,
What’s up? I could have sworn you were a staunch defender of the constitution! Come on jack the rabid, are you saying that the 14th amendment should be dumped now? That’s the problem I see with people that claim to be defenders of the constitution – only the amendments that apply to them should be enforced, to protect non-whites-it just doesn’t apply here.
I will say this jack, sometimes I’m confused as to why you spend so much time here with people who obviously have nothing in common with you. On the other hand, I’d rather you continue to come here than to see you loose on the streets – I think you are the ‘wolf,’ and not a sheep!!!!!
on April 4th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
NTX,
Maybe you should lay off the ‘illegal immigrants!’ In case you didn’t know, the world’s richest person is from Mexico. There are U.S. corporations in Mexico, GM, Whirlpool…..you may have to cross the border one day looking for work to ‘feed your family!’
on April 4th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Does anyone else get the queasy feeling that “DLER” is actually Beholder in disguise? LOL! And hey, even my dog could be ‘blonde’ if I stuck a blonde wig on his head.
“DLER” [whom I suspect is "Beholder]: “Calling this a hate site? Absurd. Calling it racist? Equally absurd, unless racism has suddenly become the exclusive right of whites to dish out to others while hiding from their own shortcomings via hypocrisy.”
[Me] Is this website supposed to help the ‘hate’ situation? I would equate such a website with any KKK type website, except with a different racial object of hate and scorn. I don’t consider either to be appropriate.
on April 4th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
“Apparently, that is what those bleating about racism against whites are doing. Hiding from the fact that whites are no different than any other group. The only difference is that whites seem to be better at denying the fact that they, too, are flawed.” – DLER
If you think Whites are exactly like all other people then feel free to put your money where your mouth is and move to a majority non-white country – Sudan for example. Of course you will never do that – you instead insist on living where the most Whites are.
And Whites are different than other groups – give me the name of one African Nobel Prize winner in Science or Medicine. Too bad you can’t. The African has ever achieved the intellectual achievements of Whites and I will also add this high achievement is not shared by Whites alone as Jews and Asians have also displayed this level of genius, but Africans never have.
And Whites such as myself and others commenting on here are not denying “they, too, are flawed” – I do not wish to be associated with the atrocities committed by people who share my skin color by people who claim it is wrong to judge others based on skin color. Furthermore, the atrocities you speak of in many cases happened centuries ago. The SPLC would call me a White Supremacist for merely speaking about crime happening TODAY by non-white people such as African Americans and illegal Hispanic immigrants.
So yes, the double standard is obvious. If the SPLC wants to be an anti-White website – fine. Just be overt about your agenda since the various hate groups the SPLC speaks of at least offers that.
on April 4th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Instead of all the finger pointing, calling anyone who bemoans the epidemic of black violence a “hate monger”,
Why don’t you use some of your money and power to find ways to stop the violence?? Ignoring the hundreds of blacks who are killed every day, usually by other blacks, won’t make it go away…….
on April 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
“In fact, they are thieves. I don’t care what color, nationality, etc. they are, they are thieves.”
NTX said on April 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
Ok.
So you claim that your opposition to immigration is not due to color, race, nationality, etc, and due to some other “fact” you claim about 11 million people. You affirm it with total faith in your righteousness.
Therefore, please tell us, what theft is implied by circulating in the country without a visa?
Before you launch into a diatribe and cliches about identity theft, emergency room use, food stamps, etc. do you have actual numbers to substantiate any of these claims? Can you back up your position with empirical fact?
Because a priori, it is almost impossible to cast a vote if you are not a US citizen (at least it has never been documented to occur); emergency rooms under federal law must stabilize emergency patients of any national origin, and to point at one group without looking at another is a red herring; police records and detainee records show immigrants commit fewer serious crimes per capita than citizens; undocumented immigrants pay sales tax and property tax which funds the schools they use; and, federal tax may be deducted and never claimed.
What exactly are they stealing? It sounds to me like you are taking advantage of popular stereotypes to focus your hatred and anger upon scapegoats. The rooster has come home to roost.
on April 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
“People who come here illegally are still citizens of whatever country they have left. ”
NTX said on April 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
While perfectly true, this has no bearing on the protections they receive under the US Constitution anywhere in our country’s jurisdiction (i.e. reach of law). That reach of law is typically defined as US soil and foreign diplomatic areas defined by law or treaty, and at sea, by international maritime law, treaty and convention. It has nothing to do with national origin, which is specifically prohibited by the language of the 14th Amendment. So if a foreign person crosses into US jurisdiction without a visa, or overstays a visa after entering legally, they are within our jurisdiction as an entirely separate consideration as to whether they are legally authorized to be present within our borders. In fact, the legal process needed to determine visa status is, by definition, a function of US law and jurisdiction.
Now that I have handed your argument back in a can, do you have any questions?
on April 5th, 2010 at 11:49 am
To skinnyminny:
Since when is there anything wrong with amending the Constitution?
Yes, I think we should dump the 14th. I do support politicians that support that and would vote and support for an amendment repealing it.
If we used your line of reasoning someone that supported the suffrage amendment was not a defender of the constitution and un-american.
So using your line women shouldn’t be able to vote now.
Sorry, the constitution provides for it via the amendment process and I pursue it in a constitutional fashion, unlike the left with their activist judges and twisting of the document through this BS “living document” garbage.
Changes to it are supposed to be through amendments, not legislating from the bench.
on April 5th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Lee,
I’d suggest you go back and get a real education, like most of us did – yes, most of us went to public, while others went private. Example, Chrisopher Columbus discovered America! Really!
All you have to do is see what’s happening on television now, example, my last viewing of ‘so you think you can dance,’ was when Brandon didn’t win. I haven’t looked at ‘american idol,’ since DeNoop (I think that’s his name) was kicked off.
In Arizona, recently, meaning this year, the neo-nazis painted over the murals of African Americans. Lee, it is obvious you are blatantly racist/fascist. It really sickens me to hear people like you that continue to smear black people. Especially to say that blacks are illiterate, when all you have to do is look at some of the whites on reality shows, even your hero Ms. Sarah doesn’t pass the IQ test-personally, she reminds me of Peggy Hill from the cartoon King of the Hill, although not as bright as Peggy. Now, if whites were as smart as you say, why aren’t they discovering new products/technologies instead of complaining about jobs/taxes/economy/running to townhalls protesting…if you’re so smart, create new corporations instead of waiting for corporations to bring jobs back!
on April 5th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Lee,
I’ll do more than give you one ‘african-american,’ person(s). Dr. Charles Richard Drew – blood plasma & blood bank
Frederick McKinley Jones – refrigeration for trucks
Otis Boykin – electronic control devices for IBM computers, guided missiles & controls for pacemakers
Garrett Morgan – gas masks
there’s more, but, since you are in denial, why bother!
on April 5th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Jack only supports the constitution insofar as he can shoehorn it to fit his conservative beliefs. Most of these “defenders” of the constitution get their understanding of American history from radio DJs and pamphlets you find at gun shows.
on April 5th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
“Sorry, the constitution provides for it via the amendment process and I pursue it in a constitutional fashion, unlike the left with their activist judges and twisting of the document…Changes to it are supposed to be through amendments, not legislating from the bench.”
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Thus spoke Jack Rabid, the Constitutional revisionist, the wild eyed radical. The Supreme Court has not changed its view for over a century on birthright citizenship. Even back then, SCOTUS did far from “twist” the document, rather, they upheld it to the straight and narrow test of law to avoid the kinds of abuses and tyrannies we broke from in our Revolution. If you are born in this country, you are a citizen, that is as the Founders and true “conservatives” of Constitutional civil liberties and real American values.
And it is not just the 14th Ammendment (the one that you want to change) that you seek to spit upon; it is Article II which specifies condition of birth as a prerequisite for holding the office of President. Would you do away with the birth requirement for this office as well?
I would have less scorn for this movement if those behind it could decide if they want to try a frontal assault on the Constitution (i.e. repeal the 14th), a Supreme Court challenge, or simply to pen some kind of nativist specific legislation as a work-around. As it stands it’s just endless repetition of what a small group of Constitutional scholars and jurists printed out to assist an opportunistic anti-immigrant movement within the GOP.
on April 5th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
NTX [Me, I] said on April 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
“People who come here illegally are still citizens of whatever country they have left. ”
beholder said, on April 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
While perfectly true, this has no bearing on the protections they receive under the US Constitution anywhere in our country’s jurisdiction (i.e. reach of law). That reach of law is typically defined as US soil and foreign diplomatic areas defined by law or treaty, and at sea, by international maritime law, treaty and convention. It has nothing to do with national origin, which is specifically prohibited by the language of the 14th Amendment. So if a foreign person crosses into US jurisdiction without a visa, or overstays a visa after entering legally, they are within our jurisdiction as an entirely separate consideration as to whether they are legally authorized to be present within our borders. In fact, the legal process needed to determine visa status is, by definition, a function of US law and jurisdiction.
Now that I have handed your argument back in a can, do you have any questions?
[Me] Beholder, your “can” of b.s. doesn’t impress anyone. The fact that our courts have chosen to afford civil liberties to those who have chosen to ignore our laws and come here illegally does not overshadow the fact that they are not allowed those protections under Constitutional law. The 14th Amendment was added to our Constitution to provide equal rights to slaves, as they well deserved. This amendment was not designed to provide tax-based services to those who would choose to ignore the laws of this land and come here illegally for the express intent and purpose of defrauding citizens for their own personal gain.
on April 5th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
“there’s more, but, since you are in denial, why bother!” – skinnyminny
No, you’re completely wrong and I have the objective evidence to back that up.
“Dr. Charles Richard Drew – blood plasma & blood bank”
Wrong – White man Dr. Oswald H. Robertson did.
“Frederick McKinley Jones – refrigeration for trucks”
Refrigerated ships and railcars invented by White men came far before.
“Garrett Morgan – gas masks”
Wrong – White man JP Knight did.
Please try again.
on April 5th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
To skinnyminny:
You really fall for the easily debunked myths pushed around black history month.
Not one you listed was an original invention.
All of them have easily verifiable original inventors that predate them.
If you are going to use “inventions” to support this case that somehow we never would have survived without black inventors you are going to need to find some that ACTUALLY invented something.
To Beholder:
The amendment process is not an “assault.”
Nice try.
If it is I would suggest that giving women suffrage by amendment was just as much an “assault.”
Foreigners that come here and have children, anchor babies, do not deserve citizenship for themselves or their children: they are beholden to a foreign government.
on April 6th, 2010 at 10:54 am
After all is said and done, we will have to admit or deny the fact that ignorance, which leads to prejudice, which leads to bigotry, which nourishes hate is a problem in this country.
on April 6th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Ruslan, why in the heck would you care?
Being a communist our constitution only gets in the way of your political objectives.
If you truly think I am somehow damaging it by calling for a repeal of the 14th you should be cheering it on.
on April 6th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The difference Jack Rabid is quite simple. Suffrage for women was an expansion of civil liberties. Your spitting on the 14th is an attempt to take away civil liberties and turn this country into an extension of militiaville.
“sitting here in militiaville
looking around for my guns and ammo
some people say there’s a negro to blame
but I don’t
it’s the immigrants fault.”
on April 6th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Frankly, I don’t see anything productive coming out of these rants.
on April 6th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
beholder:
Sorry your logic doesn’t work. If amending the constitution is an “assault” those amendments would be also.
There is absolutely no question that the 14th is probably the most abused amendment we have.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with working to repeal it.
It doesn’t “take away” civil liberties from anyone.
on April 6th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Lee,
What you have is rewritten history! I guess from your perspective, the big tobacco companies invented cigarettes, and spices (cooking) came from Europe! You know, if it wasn’t for the great Native Americans of this country, Europeans would have died of starvation upon arrival to NA.
I suggest you look it up again. As far as I know, whites have always taken things not rightfully theirs to claim as their own – HINT, land…..
Make no mistake in the matter, I have white people in my family, as a multi-racial person, I have white in my genes – but, you guys make me say things that I shouldn’t say at times. However, let’s make clear, you have no right to come here and verbally abuse people-we will not let you bring your normal way of life to mistreat us – Also, let’s make this clear, this is not Stormfront, VNN, Amren-so please, be classy and we’ll return the extended courtesies.
on April 6th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Jack,
Sometimes you make me laugh by your outrageous remarks! I never fall for any ‘debunked myths,’ but you do! For instance, the claims that Jesus was white. I assume that’s why whites are now claiming they are the ‘chosen ones,’ never mind the fact, the Bible has been translated for Europeans from Hebrew to English!!!!!
What I also find funny, just as you are one for ‘dumping the 14th Amendment,’ you know quite well that blacks were not afforded equal status. Example, if you look back in history, even though blacks were good at baseball, there was strong resistance from whites. Once a black singing group had to keep their identity secret, because whites would be angry that the ‘group sounding sooo good is black.’ BTW, it is alleged that Elvis Presley was Native American, not white – maybe that’s why he was sooo attractive! Hahaha!!! LOL!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!
on April 6th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Lee,
Here’s a good question for you, name one white person who didn’t steal or take from force one invention to claim as his own? Well, other than things that hurt people like your guns and drugs!!!!! Admit it, you don’t build, you destroy!
on April 6th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Constitution of United States was written to limit Government, State had there own individual government laws, We the people, should have say so of this healthcare
that passed. Healthcare, NO ONE read the bill, nothing
free, Not just taxing the rich, Taxes going up on everything,
and fines, telling you have to buy health insurance.
GOD BLESS AMERICA,
FREEDOM
on April 7th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Jack go right ahead and try to repeal the 14th. Sell your George Bush signet ring for saving the world in “24″ and put the proceeds into PAC. That is an even bigger joke than “Militiaville”. What’s the matter, didn’t you like my little ditty?
on April 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Skinnyminny:
Can you read and follow anyone here?
Here is what I posted about Jesus and his racial identity:
“There is no good argument to be made that he was anything other than a Semitic Middle Easterner which would match all the evidence.
Any of these bull claims that he was White, Aryan or African is mumbo jumbo and just used to manipulate.
So explain how I am falling for a White Jesus myth?
YOU are the believer in myth.
“What you have is rewritten history!”
Yep, everything was rewritten for my benefit so I could argue it here.
You really are off on the deep end here. There is more than enough evidence to back up the FACT that those three never invented anything original.
You simply lash out because you know you are wrong.
on April 7th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
NTX,
Ever heard of TRO (Temp restraining order)! You keep going after Beholder-insisting he/she was at another site, Beholder said it wasn’t him/her! Get a clue, there are thousands, if not hundreds, of people with the same name, i.e. Cookie, Candy, Manny, David, John, James….
You keep saying ‘Your Country – Illegal Immigrants.” I take it you didn’t see the YouTube video, nor did you read the speech entitled “Columbus Go Home,” that was given to the Anti-Immigrant Tea Party in Minnesota! Yeah, it was funny because the Tea Party thought they’d hear that illegal immigrants from Mexico, SA, Central America….should go home. Imagine when they heard these excerpts- “It’s no secret that with an invasion of immigrants comes waves of crime. We see them involved in massive theft, in murder…Let’s send these European immigrants back where they came from! I don’t care if they are Polish, Irish, English, Italian, Norwegian! European immigrants are responsible for the most violent and heinous crimes in the history of the world…..
Oh, but, don’t worry, you can just google “anti-racist still the show at white supremacist tea party amnesty” from the site twincities.indymedia.org for Nov 2009 – yes, you can read the speech as well as view/download the video
LOL!!!!
on April 7th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Don’t think you have freedom in America? Try living in Russia for a year.
on April 7th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
“I suggest you look it up again. As far as I know, whites have always taken things not rightfully theirs to claim as their own – HINT, land…..” – skinnyminny
“Here’s a good question for you, name one white person who didn’t steal or take from force one invention to claim as his own?” – skinnyminny
Presuming you are White, you are a typical self-loathing White leftist.
Newflash: EVERY GROUP throughout history stole land. And if you bothered to pay attention to CURRENT news you would see that Jews are stealing land from the Palestinians as we speak.
In historical times all land was claimed through theft, and this includes Native American tribes stealing land from other tribes. Of course since you are biased you focus solely on land stolen by Whites, but as I said, every group does it. So apparently you have no problem with theft – something that every racial group has done – but by theft by Whites…because they were more successful at it?
Typical leftist – you aren’t against theft and you probably aren’t against war either. You are merely against those who succeed at theft or win wars.
on April 7th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Implying that any person shares morals or certain behavior with any person from the same race is unfair. Hate will not conquer hate.
on April 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
My reading of White Watch is that it is an attempt at parody, which can be a very effective weapon for deconstructing structures of inequality. Opening it up for public comments, using a blog format is also ingenious since it reveals all the ugliness that this sort of thing inspires from all “races”.
However, White Watch is a very serious form of parody in that it aims to aggresively criticize the absurdity of race itself as a social construct and the attempts by other white supremacist groups to maintain centuries-old uneven power structures with “whiteness” as the center relative to which “others” are rhetorically construed as inferior and peripheral.
By doing a project aimed at “proving” a thesis of white racial inferiority, the absurdity of all projects aimed at “proving” similar theses becomes readily apparent. The blog creator is simply turning the whole concept of racial superiority/inferiority upside down, which decenters the existing white supremacist projects. White Watch is absurd because all other similar projects are absurd.
It’s kind of a bold idea given the high probability of it being misunderstood, but I think even misunderstanding it accomplishes part of the intent. I think SPLC might have missed the boat on this one, and may be trying a bit too hard to be “fair and balanced” with respect to its portrayal of reverse racism presumably by non-whites against whites.
Caution SPLC. Let’s not forget the academic definition of racism: the construction and maintenance of social and economic structures and institutions aimed at maintaining uneven power relations to favor the majority racial group. Given this, it’s pretty difficult, although not impossible, for non-white minorities to be technically racist against the white majority. Bigotted, prejudiced, even discriminatory, yes of course, but to be racist requires being in a privileged position in an unequal system. Generally speaking, non-whites do not enjoy the many deeply embedded privileges of whiteness. This is why SPLC needs to be careful about too hastily committing a false equivalency fallacy.
on April 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am
A web site making fun of the socially dominant group in a tongue in cheek way can hardly be called racist. Racism is not about not liking another race. Racism is about exploiting racial advantage due to numeric or economic superiority. If anyone can show me how white people are harmed by this site — which does nothing more than provoke a laugh and get people to think about their racial assumptions — I will give $5,000 to NumbersUSA. But be warned: if you fail, I will give the money to ACORN.
on April 9th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Don Quixote said, on April 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm:
“My reading of White Watch is that it is an attempt at parody, which can be a very effective weapon for deconstructing structures of inequality.”
[Me] Is this your attempt at somehow making a point that racism more palatable when it is directed at white people? However mollifying your comments and however circuitous your arguments, that mindset in and of itself is racist and therefore unacceptable.
[Don Quixote] “Given this, it’s pretty difficult, although not impossible, for non-white minorities to be technically racist against the white majority. Bigotted, prejudiced, even discriminatory, yes of course, but to be racist requires being in a privileged position in an unequal system.”
[Me] This assumption is entirely incorrect. Racism knows no socioeconomic barriers. According to this argument, poor, uneducated, welfare-recipient, Confederate-flag-waving white people in the South could not possibly be racist.
on April 9th, 2010 at 11:32 am
All this talk about Jesus. Who can prove that he ever existed?
on April 13th, 2010 at 11:06 am
White Watch’s take on this SPLC report :
http://whitewatch.wordpress.co.....mment-6902
I’m still undecided if its the work of a brilliant satirist or a nutter.