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	<title>Comments on: Racists See ‘Set-Up&#8217; in Arrest of Idaho Lawyer</title>
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		<title>By: Mitch Beales</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-176551</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch Beales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Henri Thoreau:

One thing that makes SPLC different from Edgar J. Steele is that, as far as I know, no one there has been implicated in a scheme to murder his wife.  Another thing that makes them different is that they don&#039;t advocate horrible fates for or extra-legal actions against those with whom they disagree.  

I&#039;m not sure where you found your statistics on rape but I couldn&#039;t believe them.  When I investigated I found claims circulating on the WWW that 100% of rapes of black women were committed by black men.  When I tracked down the table cited in one of those claims at the Department of Justice (http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf, Table 42) I learned that these claims are based on an appallingly small sample, less than 10 of the more than 36,000 black women who&#039;s rapes were reported in 2005.  Examining data from other years made it clear that the individual who cited this table carefully selected the worst case of several years in order to perpetuate the myth that black men have little on their minds besides attacking white women.  The only thing one can appropriately conclude from the DOJ statistics I looked at is that the samples are too small to provide useful information.  This is clear from the fact that, over a 3 year period, rape of whites by blacks varied from 7.6-33.6% of all rapes of whites.  The other conclusion one might draw is that the rape of black women is of such little concern to white authorities that they don&#039;t bother to ask for or report the details.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Henri Thoreau:</p>
<p>One thing that makes SPLC different from Edgar J. Steele is that, as far as I know, no one there has been implicated in a scheme to murder his wife.  Another thing that makes them different is that they don&#8217;t advocate horrible fates for or extra-legal actions against those with whom they disagree.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you found your statistics on rape but I couldn&#8217;t believe them.  When I investigated I found claims circulating on the WWW that 100% of rapes of black women were committed by black men.  When I tracked down the table cited in one of those claims at the Department of Justice (<a href="http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/conte.....us0502.pdf</a>, Table 42) I learned that these claims are based on an appallingly small sample, less than 10 of the more than 36,000 black women who&#8217;s rapes were reported in 2005.  Examining data from other years made it clear that the individual who cited this table carefully selected the worst case of several years in order to perpetuate the myth that black men have little on their minds besides attacking white women.  The only thing one can appropriately conclude from the DOJ statistics I looked at is that the samples are too small to provide useful information.  This is clear from the fact that, over a 3 year period, rape of whites by blacks varied from 7.6-33.6% of all rapes of whites.  The other conclusion one might draw is that the rape of black women is of such little concern to white authorities that they don&#8217;t bother to ask for or report the details.</p>
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		<title>By: Hatewatch</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-174782</link>
		<dc:creator>Hatewatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeronimus,

For more information about the SPLC&#039;s work in that area, start here:
http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/immigrant-justice]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeronimus,</p>
<p>For more information about the SPLC&#8217;s work in that area, start here:<br />
<a href="http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/immigrant-justice" rel="nofollow">http://www.splcenter.org/what-.....nt-justice</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-174338</link>
		<dc:creator>Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course the laughable thing is that using a pipe bomb to attempt to collect on an &quot;auto accident&quot; is the antithesis of clever. It&#039;s damn similar to putting a pistol in someone&#039;s face when playing Blackjack (&quot;it&#039;s not cheating; I just robbed him&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the laughable thing is that using a pipe bomb to attempt to collect on an &#8220;auto accident&#8221; is the antithesis of clever. It&#8217;s damn similar to putting a pistol in someone&#8217;s face when playing Blackjack (&#8220;it&#8217;s not cheating; I just robbed him&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert McLernon</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-174176</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert McLernon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 00:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do these people live on the same planet that I live on?

White supremacy  Zionist Occupied government
Mind control

Neo-Nazis who think Hitler was a great leader.
Hitler, who left most of his country a smoking ruin.

How do people become so far divorced from reality?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these people live on the same planet that I live on?</p>
<p>White supremacy  Zionist Occupied government<br />
Mind control</p>
<p>Neo-Nazis who think Hitler was a great leader.<br />
Hitler, who left most of his country a smoking ruin.</p>
<p>How do people become so far divorced from reality?</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-174147</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ALL criminals are framed!  Just ask them!  :-P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL criminals are framed!  Just ask them!  :-P</p>
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		<title>By: Dov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-174127</link>
		<dc:creator>Dov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing how these white supremacists lie, cheat, murder, embezzle...then when they get caught, whine about how &quot;ZOG&quot; has set them up in order to ruin their lives. Most of the racists and anti-Semites I deal with on a regular basis on social networking sites such as YouTube have these types of skeletons in their closets. They&#039;ve either served time in prison for hate crimes or for running some sort of scam to bilk the government or an insurance company out of funds in order to run their organizations and web sites. 

Pathetic hypocrites and clowns, all of them!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing how these white supremacists lie, cheat, murder, embezzle&#8230;then when they get caught, whine about how &#8220;ZOG&#8221; has set them up in order to ruin their lives. Most of the racists and anti-Semites I deal with on a regular basis on social networking sites such as YouTube have these types of skeletons in their closets. They&#8217;ve either served time in prison for hate crimes or for running some sort of scam to bilk the government or an insurance company out of funds in order to run their organizations and web sites. </p>
<p>Pathetic hypocrites and clowns, all of them!</p>
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		<title>By: DREW</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-174117</link>
		<dc:creator>DREW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Wow&quot;, talk about thinking disorders,  this illness in this form is extremly dangerous.  To be able to tell oneself the lies has got to change the brain make up over time close  to a psychopathic state , the insanity of it all&quot; wow&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wow&#8221;, talk about thinking disorders,  this illness in this form is extremly dangerous.  To be able to tell oneself the lies has got to change the brain make up over time close  to a psychopathic state , the insanity of it all&#8221; wow&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-174114</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s always somebody else&#039;s fault with these people.

That&#039;s a classic symptom of psychopathy.

These people are dangerous monsters.

They&#039;re ticking time bombs waiting to go off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always somebody else&#8217;s fault with these people.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a classic symptom of psychopathy.</p>
<p>These people are dangerous monsters.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re ticking time bombs waiting to go off.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeronimus</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-173981</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeronimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the SPLC budget, it seems like you guys could do better things with your time.  VNN is just a bunch of people gabbing, meanwhile illegal aliens are being enslaved all over the country.  The Obama DOL is willing to go after employers who don&#039;t pay their &quot;undocumented laborers.&quot;  Why don&#039;t you go to wehirealiens.com and investigate the many reports of employee abuse, and do some real &quot;poverty&quot; work?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the SPLC budget, it seems like you guys could do better things with your time.  VNN is just a bunch of people gabbing, meanwhile illegal aliens are being enslaved all over the country.  The Obama DOL is willing to go after employers who don&#8217;t pay their &#8220;undocumented laborers.&#8221;  Why don&#8217;t you go to wehirealiens.com and investigate the many reports of employee abuse, and do some real &#8220;poverty&#8221; work?</p>
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		<title>By: Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-173950</link>
		<dc:creator>Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following quote is very revealing in it&#039;s contextual pathos..
&quot;“It’s a setup; ZOG [Zionist Occupied Government] knows we get discouraged easily. Don’t believe it,” advised Aufreizen.&quot;

One of the unique phenomenon of the WN movement is the depth of depravity and spreed with which members inform on each other and generally act in a self-destructive fashion. No wonder they get &quot;discouraged&quot;!
No other &quot;political&quot; agenda has such a collection of neurotic, self destructive, &amp; depraved assemblage. They include the largest percentage of turn-coats and deviants of any self-identified group.
With every pathology from spouse assault to pedophilia, they make a name for themselves as a group to be spurned - if not defining a picture of revulsion.

No need for any &quot;mind control&quot; there....anyone with an ounce of sense would be so disgusted with the company kept that they would grow so disgusted, nothing could KEEP THEM in place!
The level of informers is perhaps the highest of any identified social group &amp; there is ample reason for this.
NO ONE would find any reason for loyalty to a group which harbors such a motley assembly of characters! They steal from each other, they beat, kill &amp; find every reason to exploit &amp; extort from each other.And that&#039;s just a short list of public pathos......Lord knows what they do in private!

Everyone in our nation deserves a Defense in Court but that defense is generally done as an ethical duty....Not as a predilection to agreement to &quot;the Cause&quot;.
Steele is both a very unhappy and unfulfilled individual. No need to wonder why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following quote is very revealing in it&#8217;s contextual pathos..<br />
&#8220;“It’s a setup; ZOG [Zionist Occupied Government] knows we get discouraged easily. Don’t believe it,” advised Aufreizen.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the unique phenomenon of the WN movement is the depth of depravity and spreed with which members inform on each other and generally act in a self-destructive fashion. No wonder they get &#8220;discouraged&#8221;!<br />
No other &#8220;political&#8221; agenda has such a collection of neurotic, self destructive, &amp; depraved assemblage. They include the largest percentage of turn-coats and deviants of any self-identified group.<br />
With every pathology from spouse assault to pedophilia, they make a name for themselves as a group to be spurned &#8211; if not defining a picture of revulsion.</p>
<p>No need for any &#8220;mind control&#8221; there&#8230;.anyone with an ounce of sense would be so disgusted with the company kept that they would grow so disgusted, nothing could KEEP THEM in place!<br />
The level of informers is perhaps the highest of any identified social group &amp; there is ample reason for this.<br />
NO ONE would find any reason for loyalty to a group which harbors such a motley assembly of characters! They steal from each other, they beat, kill &amp; find every reason to exploit &amp; extort from each other.And that&#8217;s just a short list of public pathos&#8230;&#8230;Lord knows what they do in private!</p>
<p>Everyone in our nation deserves a Defense in Court but that defense is generally done as an ethical duty&#8230;.Not as a predilection to agreement to &#8220;the Cause&#8221;.<br />
Steele is both a very unhappy and unfulfilled individual. No need to wonder why.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The funny thing is that many racists hated Steele for not being as radical as them, but the second one of these guys gets sent up he&#039;s suddenly a martyr.  Same thing happened to Shaun Walker and Kevin Alfred Strom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is that many racists hated Steele for not being as radical as them, but the second one of these guys gets sent up he&#8217;s suddenly a martyr.  Same thing happened to Shaun Walker and Kevin Alfred Strom.</p>
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		<title>By: Henri Thoreau...</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/06/22/racists-see-set-up-in-arrest-of-idaho-lawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-173805</link>
		<dc:creator>Henri Thoreau...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Keller,

I am a little confused. It sounds as if you have unresolved anger issues towards whom you refer to as &#039;White bigots&#039;. 

The way i see it, the white guys are pissed off about some stuff about the goverment, some of it may be legitimate and some not, would require an impartial investigation.

And you are pissed off about them, but you are pretending to be some holier than thou impartial observer, which you are not. Your remarks about Stormfront indicate you clearly appear to hate these people with a passion.

So they don&#039;t like browns and blacks too much, neither does my black husband, sometimes; cause plenty of them rob, rape and pillage and ain&#039;t got any conscience about it. Take a look at the racial rape stats in America. There may be many angry white males, pissed off about black or brown people, but they ain&#039;t going around violently raping black and brown women. The same cannot be said for angry black and brown men, who commit a huge number of interracial violent rapes against white women. 

As far as I understand it. I don&#039;t know of one case in history (correct me if I am wrong) where you can get different racial groups to better understand each other, by blowing up steam and hate at one of the groups, such as what you are doing to the white nationalists. 

Wouldn&#039;t a better tactic be to ask them for a full report about their grievances, and get an impartial person to make an enquiry and attemp to address their grievances? 

How do you propose to resolve any problem by behaving in the same &#039;stewing up hate&#039; for another group of people, as you accuse them of doing? 

What makes you any different to them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Keller,</p>
<p>I am a little confused. It sounds as if you have unresolved anger issues towards whom you refer to as &#8216;White bigots&#8217;. </p>
<p>The way i see it, the white guys are pissed off about some stuff about the goverment, some of it may be legitimate and some not, would require an impartial investigation.</p>
<p>And you are pissed off about them, but you are pretending to be some holier than thou impartial observer, which you are not. Your remarks about Stormfront indicate you clearly appear to hate these people with a passion.</p>
<p>So they don&#8217;t like browns and blacks too much, neither does my black husband, sometimes; cause plenty of them rob, rape and pillage and ain&#8217;t got any conscience about it. Take a look at the racial rape stats in America. There may be many angry white males, pissed off about black or brown people, but they ain&#8217;t going around violently raping black and brown women. The same cannot be said for angry black and brown men, who commit a huge number of interracial violent rapes against white women. </p>
<p>As far as I understand it. I don&#8217;t know of one case in history (correct me if I am wrong) where you can get different racial groups to better understand each other, by blowing up steam and hate at one of the groups, such as what you are doing to the white nationalists. </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t a better tactic be to ask them for a full report about their grievances, and get an impartial person to make an enquiry and attemp to address their grievances? </p>
<p>How do you propose to resolve any problem by behaving in the same &#8216;stewing up hate&#8217; for another group of people, as you accuse them of doing? </p>
<p>What makes you any different to them?</p>
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