But I look at it this way, Western Europe worked so hard to break down “evil totalitarian” Communism- so let them clean up the mess.

Yup, that pretty much covers your group. Apt titles them all.

This is not the SPLC I once knew.

What Class!

As to your alarmist BS about banning piggy banks and the like, I hate to break this to you, but it’s simply not true. While I have no doubt you could bore me to tears with links to stories in the Mail about christmas being banned or toilets made for Muslims only in shopping centres, but that wouldn’t change the fact that the stories are generally wilful misreporting of incidents to further the “OMG those dirty foreigners want to ruin it for us lovely middle class white people” rhetoric of the right wing press in the UK.

Where you do your research makes a BIG difference. Your “research” consists of alarmist sites, judging by the words and concepts you regurgitate.

Nonetheless, what bearing on actual law do the Sharia courts you refer to have? None.

“Cowardly? I am right in the fight bro. ”

No, you are a coward in real life and your “fight” is little more than an internet fantasy. That is why your paranoid mind NEEDS me to be a Muslim so badly.

“Why no comment on your lie about no sharia courts in Europe, Ruslan? Hoping we’d just overlook that?”

Please show us your sources, and show what bearing these courts have on UK law.

From Ruslan: Well thanks for confirming my assertion that conservatives are cowardly, paranoid people afraid of their own shadow. Cry and moan all you want but I am an atheist….

Cowardly? I am right in the fight bro. Why no comment on your lie about no sharia courts in Europe, Ruslan? Hoping we’d just overlook that?

Shari’ ah is a social, political, economic and unfortunately a religious ideology, which by virtue of it’s tenets, seeks to dominate all who are non Muslim by subverting ALL other political as well as economic systems. Shari’ah IS Islam.

Are we at risk? we seem to think so. Putting ones politcal leanings aside, I invite you to read all you can and make your own assessment. The Geert Wilders trial, being conducted as we speak may be a good start. Key in Sharia Compliant Financing, Joy Brighton, Frank Gaffney and learn how these seemingly mundane financial transactions are supporting Al-Qaida and others violent groups.

What we hate is the oppression of Shari’ ah and the violence of Jihad against Americans and all peoples of all nations subject to and under it’s dictates.

It is not about religious redemption. It’s about the explotation of fear, benefitting those perpetuating it, with power, wealth and control.

Thank You

Actually, there is only one country that actually bans chewing gum, and that is Singapore, and no, Sharia laws do not exist there.

Good grief.

I see what you did there Dana. If you wish, please explain to us what Jews have done to America. Then prepare to reap a whirlwind of sarcasm.

Your arguments run much to similar to those I found at Loon-watch, a UK based islamist site. And I notice that Loonwatch is actually linked to SPLC on its website, so that fits perfectly well.

No, you are a professional Ruslan, simply employing taqqiya and spreading misinformation.”

Well thanks for confirming my assertion that conservatives are cowardly, paranoid people afraid of their own shadow. Cry and moan all you want but I am an atheist, after freeing myself the insanity of evangelical Christianity(America’s answer to the Taliban). How sad that the best you can come up with is “you’re lying”, and then the hilariously paranoid “you’re a professional.”

Hell, I WISH I could get paid for this. Exposing right-wing nutcases and torpedoing your pathetic arguments is one of the easiest things I do. If only someone would pay me.

Now it is ironic that given all this you are oblivious to claim that Mitch doesn’t have a “cogent argument”. Funny that all your “arguments” revolve around stories you “recall”. Gee, recall from where exactly?

As regards sharia, you obviously miss the point. Being, that the muslims are forming a parallel society in which they will follow their own laws. Does the term “no go areas” mean ring a bell? Naturally this takes time, but they push a little here and a little there, and before you know it, presto, separate swimming hours for men and women (Germany). I also recall a recent incident in which a politician visited a muslim neighborhood, only to be told by the local imam something to the effect that, “you dont come to a muslim area and do whatever”.

Must you resort to name calling Mitch? Ninnies and idiots? Usually such exclamations are a reflection of frustration born from the lack of a cogent argument. Such being the case here, if you still miss my points.

In general I am done searching for documentation of the nonsensical claims of “conservatives” who seem incapable of writing in the English language much less including URLs in their post to back up their ridiculous claims. I will, however, point out (as I did when Lou Stouch or one of his co-ninnies posted these claims about Sharia courts in the UK in another thread here) that the controversy has arisen because parliament has recently passed a law that, when someone willingly submits to binding arbitration by an Islamic court, the ruling of that court will indeed be considered binding. I don’t quite see how this provides any support for Sharia law. It seems to me that a rational person would be less likely to subject themselves to an Islamic court if the ruling of that court was considered binding. With any luck this act of parliament will eventually put such courts out of business. Unfortunately, as some of the idiots who post here make abundantly clear, there seems to be an endless supply of people who are not at all rational.

Your arguments run much to similar to those I found at Loon-watch, a UK based islamist site. And I notice that Loonwatch is actually linked to SPLC on its website, so that fits perfectly well.

No, you are a professional Ruslan, simply employing taqqiya and spreading misinformation.

The simple fact is Ruslan, you lied – flat out lied – when you said there were no sharia courts in Europe. This from someone telling Whitehurst to do “some research”.

You’ve now lost all credibility here Ruslan. And personally I dont care if your an atheist or any other -thist – you toe the muslim party line in all things, so your religion, or lack thereof, is irrelevant.

Research. Do some.

Nonsense, absolute nonsense. Christians have been taking flak for their increasing demand to be involved in politics and dominate the laws of the land. This is why it is hypocritical for such people to complain about Sharia law taking over America while every Supreme Court Justice confirmation hearing revolves around issues like abortion.

“Unfortunately too many Christians have hide under the cloak of cowardice.”

Uh yeah, sure. Last time I checked they were extremely vocal for decades. I grew up in the evangelical movement and I am familiar with their persecution fantasy. Basically when people resist their preaching or oppose their attempts to push their agenda in the schools or government, they cry persecution.

“The thought of Muslins and thir liberal consortiums say it is okay to build a Muslin community center or Park 51, but at the same the liberals would be in an uproad if someone decides to build a shrine in honoring of Adolph Hitler in Triblanca nazi concentration camp or any other concontration camps in Poland.”

So you are comparing all Muslims to Hitler, interesting.

You might also be disturbed to find out that I am an atheist, not a Muslim, and on principle I would be just as opposed to Sharia law as I would any other religious involvement in public affairs. So you’ll have to live out your Crusade fantasy on some other site.

Taking a stand on something that isn’t an issue is meaningless.

Sharia law courts exist in the UK, to what should be the shame of that government. Tribal customs should not replace law of the land, & establishing this precedent in the UK means that the rights of Muslim women have again been undermined.

HOWEVER: Sharia law, as someone else pointed out, cannot in toto replace the existing systems in the UK or the US, or Australia, without completely abolishing the rule of law. That is EXTREMELY unlikely.

Just don’t give up that first toehold – don’t allow domestic abuse, female circumcision, “honour” killings, forced marriages, etc on the basis of “cultural norms”.

Does the message have merit? does it warrent further research? I submit that it does. However, make your own assessment

Make no mistake, the threat is real and the proof is unfolding in Europe. Lets do the research instead of wasting valuable talent trying to exchange ego inspired comments.

Please. read “Shari’ ah The Threat To America” It’s on line.

85 sharia courts in UK, says report (30)
Press Association, Monday June 29 2009 There are as many as 85 sharia courts operating in Britain, according to a new report.

Academic Denis MacEoin, the report’s author, said the existence of the courts practising Islamic law could lead to different legal standards being applied to Muslim and non-Muslim citizens.

He said many of the courts operate out of mosques and their rulings are closed off to non-Muslims.

In previous reports it was claimed there were only five sharia courts in the UK, working in London, Manchester, Bradford, Birmingham and Nuneaton.

He said: “This is not a matter of eating halal meat or seeking God’s blessing on one’s marriage. It is a challenge to what we believe to be the rights and freedoms of the individual, to our concept of a legal system based on what parliament enacts, and to the right of all of us to live in a society as free as possible from ethnic-religious division or communal claims to superiority and a special status that puts them in some respects above the law to which we are all bound.”

As for those of you that are still talking about old world theories and how you fear the right wing is taking over the universe, it’s not the right you should be alarmed about. It’s the creeping invasion of sharia law on our constitution as Dearborn MI has encountered and communities throughout the country are encountering. Take a moment away from your other thinking and find out more about the menace sharia poses to our republic. It’s not about politics anymore, it’s about our nations future.