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	<title>Comments on: Legislators Work with Anti-Immigrant Hate Group to Gut 14th Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this article and the postings from readers here, I was moved to go to the SLLI website and see if there were any members from my home state of Connecticut. Lo and behold there was one. So I wrote him this:

Hello there,

I am not one of your direct constituents, but have recently found out about the racist SLLI that you seem to be a member of, and as a citizen of Connecticut and the United States of America I am appalled that any politician from Connecticut (or anywhere, for that matter!) could be a member of a so blatantly racist organization.

A little background: My dad was a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau, so through simply being alive in the world, and from my own lifelong study of history in general and the Holocaust specifically, I know that the SLLI embodies those ideals the Nazi party also espoused. You, sir, by your affiliation with SLLI now also are following the same dangerous path. It seems strange to me that the anti-immigration crowd focuses almost exclusively on those &quot;illegal&quot; immigrants that have dark colored skin, but forget that a large portion of &quot;illegal&quot; immigration comes from European countries, especially those of the former Eastern block. Why are they rarely mentioned? Because in a time of economic peril for large majorities of a citizenry it is always easiest to blame those that are easily separated and mostly powerless and to make those people scapegoats.

Now you may try and use whatever rhetoric you can to make me believe that SLLI is only advocating legal immigration, but if that were true you would be also advocating the relaxation of regulations that would allow those who wish to come here legally to work and find a better life for themselves and their families. But, no you and yours are now attempting to get momentum up to repeal the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, this while those of your particular political bent claim to only want to _follow_ the Constitution to it&#039;s letter.

As Bruce Cockburn wrote: &quot;We see through you&quot;.


Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this article and the postings from readers here, I was moved to go to the SLLI website and see if there were any members from my home state of Connecticut. Lo and behold there was one. So I wrote him this:</p>
<p>Hello there,</p>
<p>I am not one of your direct constituents, but have recently found out about the racist SLLI that you seem to be a member of, and as a citizen of Connecticut and the United States of America I am appalled that any politician from Connecticut (or anywhere, for that matter!) could be a member of a so blatantly racist organization.</p>
<p>A little background: My dad was a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau, so through simply being alive in the world, and from my own lifelong study of history in general and the Holocaust specifically, I know that the SLLI embodies those ideals the Nazi party also espoused. You, sir, by your affiliation with SLLI now also are following the same dangerous path. It seems strange to me that the anti-immigration crowd focuses almost exclusively on those &#8220;illegal&#8221; immigrants that have dark colored skin, but forget that a large portion of &#8220;illegal&#8221; immigration comes from European countries, especially those of the former Eastern block. Why are they rarely mentioned? Because in a time of economic peril for large majorities of a citizenry it is always easiest to blame those that are easily separated and mostly powerless and to make those people scapegoats.</p>
<p>Now you may try and use whatever rhetoric you can to make me believe that SLLI is only advocating legal immigration, but if that were true you would be also advocating the relaxation of regulations that would allow those who wish to come here legally to work and find a better life for themselves and their families. But, no you and yours are now attempting to get momentum up to repeal the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, this while those of your particular political bent claim to only want to _follow_ the Constitution to it&#8217;s letter.</p>
<p>As Bruce Cockburn wrote: &#8220;We see through you&#8221;.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: aadila</title>
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		<dc:creator>aadila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deft said,

on January 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

Wanting to enforce immigration laws does not consitute “hate”.
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Obama has deported more people than any President. What laws aren&#039;t being enforced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deft said,</p>
<p>on January 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm</p>
<p>Wanting to enforce immigration laws does not consitute “hate”.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Obama has deported more people than any President. What laws aren&#8217;t being enforced?</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
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		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 22:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeeLeeoo,
I had mentioned Armenian, because, I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re aware of the Principles of non-Refoulement, it&#039;s an international law. But, Krikorian and all of these anti-immigrant groups should be aware of this law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeeLeeoo,<br />
I had mentioned Armenian, because, I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re aware of the Principles of non-Refoulement, it&#8217;s an international law. But, Krikorian and all of these anti-immigrant groups should be aware of this law.</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
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		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeeLeeoo,

Not sure if you know this, but, Krikorian is an Armenian name. Anytime, or should I say, most of the time there is &#039;ian&#039; in a last name it is more than likely an Armernian name. 

Rus,

Thanks for the laugh. I don&#039;t know what I&#039;d do without reading your comments! 
Perhaps we could start recommending these type folks to move to Easter Islands, there&#039;s no way they can change the demographics of this country now (meaning an all-white America). Wow! I couldn&#039;t get enough laughs about Eastern Europe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeeLeeoo,</p>
<p>Not sure if you know this, but, Krikorian is an Armenian name. Anytime, or should I say, most of the time there is &#8216;ian&#8217; in a last name it is more than likely an Armernian name. </p>
<p>Rus,</p>
<p>Thanks for the laugh. I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;d do without reading your comments!<br />
Perhaps we could start recommending these type folks to move to Easter Islands, there&#8217;s no way they can change the demographics of this country now (meaning an all-white America). Wow! I couldn&#8217;t get enough laughs about Eastern Europe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ruben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the disgusting climate of hate that has gripped arizona has claimed its first victims....hopefully congresswoman gifford will pull through,the sheriff is right when he said that arizona is now the mecca of hate in the u.s...but according to tony sporano that is no big deal just let the right wing hate mongers masquerading as politicians (pearce,tanton) continue to call the shots they are harmless...baloney!! these weasels are nothing but grade a bigots and cowards who do not have balls to do the dirty work so they brainwash other week minded people to do it for them....and unfortunately i think that this is only the beginning of more violence to come as long as the far right continues to scapegoat and demonize.....if you are a right wing/republican politician in arizona and want to be elected these days forget running on a platform of intelligent and creative ways to the states and countries problems....instead hate....hate and more hate and you will be elected....and to think that many naive people want the same kind of  bigotry that now runs most of the arizona government exported to other states...this country is in serious trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the disgusting climate of hate that has gripped arizona has claimed its first victims&#8230;.hopefully congresswoman gifford will pull through,the sheriff is right when he said that arizona is now the mecca of hate in the u.s&#8230;but according to tony sporano that is no big deal just let the right wing hate mongers masquerading as politicians (pearce,tanton) continue to call the shots they are harmless&#8230;baloney!! these weasels are nothing but grade a bigots and cowards who do not have balls to do the dirty work so they brainwash other week minded people to do it for them&#8230;.and unfortunately i think that this is only the beginning of more violence to come as long as the far right continues to scapegoat and demonize&#8230;..if you are a right wing/republican politician in arizona and want to be elected these days forget running on a platform of intelligent and creative ways to the states and countries problems&#8230;.instead hate&#8230;.hate and more hate and you will be elected&#8230;.and to think that many naive people want the same kind of  bigotry that now runs most of the arizona government exported to other states&#8230;this country is in serious trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America is a nation of immigrants, it has never been a monoracial nation. Since it was founded, whites have brought Africans for slave labor, Chinese to make railroads as &quot;coolies,&quot; Amerindians lived here for thousands of years, and even large parts of the Southwest like California and Texas were inhabited by Mexicans.

For FAIR and John Tanton to lobby for denial of citizenship to immigrants because of their skin color or national origin is abhorrent and reprehensible. The fact is Americans have been living in a multicultural and multiracial country for hundreds of years and to single out one year as in 1965 as a &quot;key mistake in national policy&quot; is absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America is a nation of immigrants, it has never been a monoracial nation. Since it was founded, whites have brought Africans for slave labor, Chinese to make railroads as &#8220;coolies,&#8221; Amerindians lived here for thousands of years, and even large parts of the Southwest like California and Texas were inhabited by Mexicans.</p>
<p>For FAIR and John Tanton to lobby for denial of citizenship to immigrants because of their skin color or national origin is abhorrent and reprehensible. The fact is Americans have been living in a multicultural and multiracial country for hundreds of years and to single out one year as in 1965 as a &#8220;key mistake in national policy&#8221; is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
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		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew this was some sort of diversion! I saw on the news (here&#039;s the source - english.cctv.com) on Friday, 1-7-2011, that the truckers from Mexico to travel on U.S. roadways are getting a push from U.S. businesses. The news also reported that the unionized truckers in the U.S. will be angry. *This was reported on cctv, a Chinese english station. So, my question is, how are they going to control immigration when businesses are behind this, and the GOP is supported by businesses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew this was some sort of diversion! I saw on the news (here&#8217;s the source &#8211; english.cctv.com) on Friday, 1-7-2011, that the truckers from Mexico to travel on U.S. roadways are getting a push from U.S. businesses. The news also reported that the unionized truckers in the U.S. will be angry. *This was reported on cctv, a Chinese english station. So, my question is, how are they going to control immigration when businesses are behind this, and the GOP is supported by businesses?</p>
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		<title>By: DooLeeoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DooLeeoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rather innocuous claim to be for the enforcement of existing immigration laws is merely a cloak for the real agenda of FAIR,  CIS, and NumbersUSA.  They are anti immigrant, legal or not.  Read and research a bit about them and it becomes clear that they want to preserve white dominance/supremacy in America.  They paint immigrants as the disease-ridden refuse of non-euro countries (latin american in particular) who will destroy White America.  Its disconcerting to read their rhetoric and watch Krikorian strutting around claiming to represent a &quot;think tank&quot; when they are in fact a nativist hate group. Look at the cover art of Krikorian&#039;s book--the Statue of Liberty has dropped her torch and is holding up her hand in a &quot;stop&quot; gesture.  Read his book and you will understand his viewpoints apply to all non-white immigrants, not just the illegals.  He is a racist scumbucket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rather innocuous claim to be for the enforcement of existing immigration laws is merely a cloak for the real agenda of FAIR,  CIS, and NumbersUSA.  They are anti immigrant, legal or not.  Read and research a bit about them and it becomes clear that they want to preserve white dominance/supremacy in America.  They paint immigrants as the disease-ridden refuse of non-euro countries (latin american in particular) who will destroy White America.  Its disconcerting to read their rhetoric and watch Krikorian strutting around claiming to represent a &#8220;think tank&#8221; when they are in fact a nativist hate group. Look at the cover art of Krikorian&#8217;s book&#8211;the Statue of Liberty has dropped her torch and is holding up her hand in a &#8220;stop&#8221; gesture.  Read his book and you will understand his viewpoints apply to all non-white immigrants, not just the illegals.  He is a racist scumbucket.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 08:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh we got us a live one here!!!

&quot;Actually our current immigration situation is great. By keeping the border open to the third world and force white people to subsidise them.&quot;

Immigrants are not subsidized by US citizens(many of whom are not white), and more than US citizens are.  Non-citizens of the US are only entitled to a fraction of America&#039;s weak social welfare programs unlike US citizens. 

&quot; It seems that people illegally in the country are entitled to free education,healthcare and welfare at the expense of white people.&quot;

Incorrect, they are only entitled to emergency medical care(like any American), and perhaps public school education for their children. They are not entitled for welfare of any kind, nor do they get social security despite the fact that many pay into it, according to the social security administration itself.  It is ridiculous to suggest that these people are doing nothing while leeching off the system.  In case you hadn&#039;t noticed, who&#039;s actually building all those lovely homes and shopping centers?

And again, are you claiming that only white people in America pay taxes?  

&quot;This will prevent white people from having their own white children.&quot;

DURP!!!  Nope, because as I said before, immigrants don&#039;t qualify for all the benefits you think they do.  Moreover, Americans have the lowest tax burden in the industrialized world, not to mention the fact that there are plenty of non-white taxpayers.  Nothing is stopping white people from having more children if they wanted to, save for perhaps unemployment and stagnant wages.  Hmm...who&#039;s responsible for that? Oh right, white business owners.

&quot; Between the race mixing propaganda and the crimes committed by non-whites against whites.&quot;

Race mixing propaganda- is that what you&#039;re blaming your failure to find a mate on?  

&quot; Eventually whites will die out just like Tim Wise wants.&quot;

You are aware that Tim Wise never said this right? Tim Wise also considers himself white.

&quot;Oh and any one who objects to the incremental genocide of their race we just call them racist. Perfect.&quot;

It&#039;s hard to believe that a country with a mostly white ruling class is committing genocide against whites.  Are whites being forced to marry non-whites? Are they not allowed to have children? Are they profiled by police? Are they forced by the state to leave their houses and neighborhoods?  Do they have fewer civil rights than other groups?  Are they not allowed to work in certain jobs?

You had better look up the definition of genocide some day.

&quot;Oh and any one who think deporting people to a place like mexico must hate mexicans.&quot;

One would expect people who hate Mexicans to get so upset about a federal misdemeanor while not wanting to do anything to make it easier for people to immigrate legally.  

&quot; Mean what makes mexico such a bad place to live.Its full of mexicans.&quot;

Yeah, that&#039;s brilliant. Why&#039;s Eastern Europe such a bad place to live? Oh right, it&#039;s full of lily-white people. Why was Europe such a bad place to live centuries ago? It was full of white people. Can you see the idiocy of that statement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh we got us a live one here!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;Actually our current immigration situation is great. By keeping the border open to the third world and force white people to subsidise them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Immigrants are not subsidized by US citizens(many of whom are not white), and more than US citizens are.  Non-citizens of the US are only entitled to a fraction of America&#8217;s weak social welfare programs unlike US citizens. </p>
<p>&#8221; It seems that people illegally in the country are entitled to free education,healthcare and welfare at the expense of white people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Incorrect, they are only entitled to emergency medical care(like any American), and perhaps public school education for their children. They are not entitled for welfare of any kind, nor do they get social security despite the fact that many pay into it, according to the social security administration itself.  It is ridiculous to suggest that these people are doing nothing while leeching off the system.  In case you hadn&#8217;t noticed, who&#8217;s actually building all those lovely homes and shopping centers?</p>
<p>And again, are you claiming that only white people in America pay taxes?  </p>
<p>&#8220;This will prevent white people from having their own white children.&#8221;</p>
<p>DURP!!!  Nope, because as I said before, immigrants don&#8217;t qualify for all the benefits you think they do.  Moreover, Americans have the lowest tax burden in the industrialized world, not to mention the fact that there are plenty of non-white taxpayers.  Nothing is stopping white people from having more children if they wanted to, save for perhaps unemployment and stagnant wages.  Hmm&#8230;who&#8217;s responsible for that? Oh right, white business owners.</p>
<p>&#8221; Between the race mixing propaganda and the crimes committed by non-whites against whites.&#8221;</p>
<p>Race mixing propaganda- is that what you&#8217;re blaming your failure to find a mate on?  </p>
<p>&#8221; Eventually whites will die out just like Tim Wise wants.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are aware that Tim Wise never said this right? Tim Wise also considers himself white.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh and any one who objects to the incremental genocide of their race we just call them racist. Perfect.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to believe that a country with a mostly white ruling class is committing genocide against whites.  Are whites being forced to marry non-whites? Are they not allowed to have children? Are they profiled by police? Are they forced by the state to leave their houses and neighborhoods?  Do they have fewer civil rights than other groups?  Are they not allowed to work in certain jobs?</p>
<p>You had better look up the definition of genocide some day.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh and any one who think deporting people to a place like mexico must hate mexicans.&#8221;</p>
<p>One would expect people who hate Mexicans to get so upset about a federal misdemeanor while not wanting to do anything to make it easier for people to immigrate legally.  </p>
<p>&#8221; Mean what makes mexico such a bad place to live.Its full of mexicans.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s brilliant. Why&#8217;s Eastern Europe such a bad place to live? Oh right, it&#8217;s full of lily-white people. Why was Europe such a bad place to live centuries ago? It was full of white people. Can you see the idiocy of that statement?</p>
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		<title>By: Tonysoprano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonysoprano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 00:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually our current immigration situation is great. By keeping the border open to the third world and force white people to subsidise them. It seems that people illegally in the country are entitled to free education,healthcare and welfare at the expense of white people.This will prevent white people from having their own white children. Between the race mixing propaganda and the crimes committed by non-whites against whites. Eventually whites will die out just like Tim Wise wants. Oh and any one who objects to the incremental genocide of their race we just call them racist. Perfect.Oh and any one who think deporting people to a place like mexico must hate mexicans. Mean what makes mexico such a bad place to live.Its full of mexicans. Maybe the splc needs to move to mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually our current immigration situation is great. By keeping the border open to the third world and force white people to subsidise them. It seems that people illegally in the country are entitled to free education,healthcare and welfare at the expense of white people.This will prevent white people from having their own white children. Between the race mixing propaganda and the crimes committed by non-whites against whites. Eventually whites will die out just like Tim Wise wants. Oh and any one who objects to the incremental genocide of their race we just call them racist. Perfect.Oh and any one who think deporting people to a place like mexico must hate mexicans. Mean what makes mexico such a bad place to live.Its full of mexicans. Maybe the splc needs to move to mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: EarleyDaysYet</title>
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		<dc:creator>EarleyDaysYet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Herbert: I try not to grammer-bash on these posts, but... &quot;kuo-kuo&quot; has to be the most illogical spelling attempt ive seen here. It&#039;s a &quot;cuckoo&quot; clock. 
@ Fredric: please, let&#039;s use the term &quot;Christianists&quot; to describe the loonies. They defame those of us who are Christians in more than name alone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Herbert: I try not to grammer-bash on these posts, but&#8230; &#8220;kuo-kuo&#8221; has to be the most illogical spelling attempt ive seen here. It&#8217;s a &#8220;cuckoo&#8221; clock.<br />
@ Fredric: please, let&#8217;s use the term &#8220;Christianists&#8221; to describe the loonies. They defame those of us who are Christians in more than name alone!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easies way to control the borders- reform immigration and work visa laws.  Then only criminals will be running through the desert, while those who want to work will come legally.  But for some bizarre reason, the anti-immigration lobby doesn&#039;t want to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easies way to control the borders- reform immigration and work visa laws.  Then only criminals will be running through the desert, while those who want to work will come legally.  But for some bizarre reason, the anti-immigration lobby doesn&#8217;t want to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredric L. Rice</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229737</link>
		<dc:creator>Fredric L. Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that *legitimate* immigration controls are swamped by racist hate-filled Christian cultists. We need to control our borders, absolutely, but any hope of reason is demolished due to hate-filled Christians flooding the arena with their racist lunacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that *legitimate* immigration controls are swamped by racist hate-filled Christian cultists. We need to control our borders, absolutely, but any hope of reason is demolished due to hate-filled Christians flooding the arena with their racist lunacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229724</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Deft, but there is no legal support for your &quot;treason&quot; claim.  If that were the case, anyone wanting to change any law would be guilty of treason, such as those who wish to decriminalize drug use.  

These people are obsessed with strict enforcement of a federal misdemeanor, a pretty small time crime, and it&#039;s clear that the US&#039; immigration laws are inadequate and are leading to violations of that particular law.  Would you like all such laws enforced to such a degree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Deft, but there is no legal support for your &#8220;treason&#8221; claim.  If that were the case, anyone wanting to change any law would be guilty of treason, such as those who wish to decriminalize drug use.  </p>
<p>These people are obsessed with strict enforcement of a federal misdemeanor, a pretty small time crime, and it&#8217;s clear that the US&#8217; immigration laws are inadequate and are leading to violations of that particular law.  Would you like all such laws enforced to such a degree?</p>
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		<title>By: ruben</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229713</link>
		<dc:creator>ruben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was watching the news last night and saw the republicans read the constitution and swear that they would govern by it no matter what.....i just laughed!!...aren&#039;t they the same fools that are crying the loudest to change it.....i guess these days republican and hypocrisy are the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was watching the news last night and saw the republicans read the constitution and swear that they would govern by it no matter what&#8230;..i just laughed!!&#8230;aren&#8217;t they the same fools that are crying the loudest to change it&#8230;..i guess these days republican and hypocrisy are the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Deft</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229708</link>
		<dc:creator>Deft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanting to enforce immigration laws does not consitute &quot;hate&quot;.

Opposing those individuals attempting to enforce immigration laws is a form of treason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanting to enforce immigration laws does not consitute &#8220;hate&#8221;.</p>
<p>Opposing those individuals attempting to enforce immigration laws is a form of treason.</p>
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		<title>By: GW</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229512</link>
		<dc:creator>GW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that no one really understands the 14th ammendment.  Besides, we are not living in a democracy anyway.  We all know that right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that no one really understands the 14th ammendment.  Besides, we are not living in a democracy anyway.  We all know that right?</p>
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		<title>By: Snorlax</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229403</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorlax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to change the 14th Amendment is to repeal it by another amendment.  Like how they repealed Prohibition in 1933.  Not an easy thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to change the 14th Amendment is to repeal it by another amendment.  Like how they repealed Prohibition in 1933.  Not an easy thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229393</link>
		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to add, everyone that I know working public/private sector gets 2-5% raises. Everyone I know that is on SSI or other government assistance gets a 1-3% cost-of-living raise. So again, let&#039;s think 22.5% raise at a time when the non-rich is getting much more poor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to add, everyone that I know working public/private sector gets 2-5% raises. Everyone I know that is on SSI or other government assistance gets a 1-3% cost-of-living raise. So again, let&#8217;s think 22.5% raise at a time when the non-rich is getting much more poor!</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229378</link>
		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point everyone is missing - it&#039;s all a diversion. They are trying to get the populations fighting against each other. Last night in El Monte, Califas, believe it or not, the school board tried to get a 22.5% raise. That&#039;s right, a 22.5% raise! 

Now, let&#039;s look at this picture, school teachers across the nation have been laid off and other public sector workers have been laid off, pay-frozen...while the elected officials complain that the workers&#039; pensions and unions are draining the budgets (never mind the fact that these local elected officials get their pensions from the same pension plans as the workers - remember the million-dollar man from Bell, Califas.) These elected officials are still taking trips across the nation and to foreign countries (former Gov. Schwarzegger went to China&#039;s Expo, Russia saying that he was going to try to bring jobs back. NJ&#039;s Christie was here in Califas attending campaign rallies for either Whitman/Fiorina or both, at the same time he was laying off state workers). 

What&#039;s happening is they are trying to trim the bottom (workers) while fattening the top (management). Oh yeah, in Califas, the state workers were forced to take days off without pay, the state elected officials were forced to take a small cut in pay. The state elected officials have filed a lawsuit and will be getting their pay retroactive (meaning backpay), but the workers are still facing layoffs. 

Because of the movement happening here in Califas, members of the community packed the El Monte school district during the meeting to oppose the raises. As far as we know, the board will not get a 22.5% raise. It was the community that protested in Bell that had some city council members resign, and some facing criminal/civil charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point everyone is missing &#8211; it&#8217;s all a diversion. They are trying to get the populations fighting against each other. Last night in El Monte, Califas, believe it or not, the school board tried to get a 22.5% raise. That&#8217;s right, a 22.5% raise! </p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s look at this picture, school teachers across the nation have been laid off and other public sector workers have been laid off, pay-frozen&#8230;while the elected officials complain that the workers&#8217; pensions and unions are draining the budgets (never mind the fact that these local elected officials get their pensions from the same pension plans as the workers &#8211; remember the million-dollar man from Bell, Califas.) These elected officials are still taking trips across the nation and to foreign countries (former Gov. Schwarzegger went to China&#8217;s Expo, Russia saying that he was going to try to bring jobs back. NJ&#8217;s Christie was here in Califas attending campaign rallies for either Whitman/Fiorina or both, at the same time he was laying off state workers). </p>
<p>What&#8217;s happening is they are trying to trim the bottom (workers) while fattening the top (management). Oh yeah, in Califas, the state workers were forced to take days off without pay, the state elected officials were forced to take a small cut in pay. The state elected officials have filed a lawsuit and will be getting their pay retroactive (meaning backpay), but the workers are still facing layoffs. </p>
<p>Because of the movement happening here in Califas, members of the community packed the El Monte school district during the meeting to oppose the raises. As far as we know, the board will not get a 22.5% raise. It was the community that protested in Bell that had some city council members resign, and some facing criminal/civil charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.... thats our Sen. Rusell Pearce,they say he reps me..but HE DOES NOT!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230;. thats our Sen. Rusell Pearce,they say he reps me..but HE DOES NOT!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert E. Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229365</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert E. Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again what is old is now new in times of difficulty people will always look for an easy scapegoat. The best you can say about them is they are not attacking any religion just people here to but food on the table at home. I do not know how it was done but all of these people had their brains replaced with kuo-kuo  clock parts and every hour and bird sounds in their head. When in the presence of another with the parts they can both hear the bird and they know they are with another cluck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again what is old is now new in times of difficulty people will always look for an easy scapegoat. The best you can say about them is they are not attacking any religion just people here to but food on the table at home. I do not know how it was done but all of these people had their brains replaced with kuo-kuo  clock parts and every hour and bird sounds in their head. When in the presence of another with the parts they can both hear the bird and they know they are with another cluck.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma Onawa</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229364</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma Onawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone told these loonies that these American citizen anchor babies can do nothing for their undocumentend parents until they&#039;re 21 years old?   Even then, it would be difficult with unlawful presence restrictions.  As we know, it&#039;s really just about hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone told these loonies that these American citizen anchor babies can do nothing for their undocumentend parents until they&#8217;re 21 years old?   Even then, it would be difficult with unlawful presence restrictions.  As we know, it&#8217;s really just about hate.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229357</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to have asked for list -- SLLI has a website and they have a breakdown of members from 40 states. Mind boggling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to have asked for list &#8212; SLLI has a website and they have a breakdown of members from 40 states. Mind boggling.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229356</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a list of the &quot;about 70&quot; state legislators?  If so, it needs to be published - and soon. Many thanks for all that you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a list of the &#8220;about 70&#8243; state legislators?  If so, it needs to be published &#8211; and soon. Many thanks for all that you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Charmaine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229349</link>
		<dc:creator>Charmaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Robert. Is anyone else saying silly in their head when they see SLLI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Robert. Is anyone else saying silly in their head when they see SLLI?</p>
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		<title>By: John Molina</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229321</link>
		<dc:creator>John Molina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, they&#039;re cute.  They call themselves &quot;constitutionalists&quot; except when it comes to this amendment.</description>
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		<title>By: John Molina</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229319</link>
		<dc:creator>John Molina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bright, one can say that about a lot of single-issue groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bright, one can say that about a lot of single-issue groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229220</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Robert.</description>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-229171</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this isn&#039;t about race, and they really just want immigration to be limited to legal immigration, why aren&#039;t they doing anything to reform America&#039;s incredibly complicated visa system?  If immigration from Mexico and Latin America were more streamlined and practical, the majority of those few still braving the desert to cross illegally would be drug and women traffickers, and the Border Patrol would be free to focus on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this isn&#8217;t about race, and they really just want immigration to be limited to legal immigration, why aren&#8217;t they doing anything to reform America&#8217;s incredibly complicated visa system?  If immigration from Mexico and Latin America were more streamlined and practical, the majority of those few still braving the desert to cross illegally would be drug and women traffickers, and the Border Patrol would be free to focus on them.</p>
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