Comments on: Black Extremists Blast Obama’s Decision to Weaken Qaddafi, With One Predicting Spaceships http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Tue, 21 May 2013 20:45:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Fantomex http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-308885 Fantomex Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:50:28 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-308885 Zac and Ruslan, Are you two always this full of crap? On did this come by accident? Zac and Ruslan,

Are you two always this full of crap? On did this come by accident?

]]> By: Pickwick http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-279592 Pickwick Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:53:59 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-279592 UFOs? Really? How's that tinfoil kufi working out for you, Louis? Does anyone actually listen to this clown anymore? UFOs? Really? How’s that tinfoil kufi working out for you, Louis? Does anyone actually listen to this clown anymore?

]]> By: Ruslan Amirkhanov http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-278100 Ruslan Amirkhanov Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:58:32 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-278100 Amen to that, Zac. Amen to that, Zac.

]]> By: Zac in VA http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-277798 Zac in VA Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:46:06 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-277798 Independent of any commentary about Libya, the NOI, or anyone else mentioned in the article, why is SPLC talking about this? Maybe they've gone downhill since I researched them for a school project ('03ish), but I thought they focused on violent domestic activity of extremist groups... a speech about Obama's foreign policy generally doesn't fall into that category of dangerous activity. Not sayin' speeches can't incite violence or what have you, but it's just a little odd. And hey y'all, why doesn't anyone here see both Gaddafi and NATO for the scum they are? I got Libyan citizens I know who are anything but right-wing calling him a dictator, and while the intervention really isn't just about oil, it IS about NATO/US reestablishing hegemony over the Arab world, in the middle of a new Arab Spring. Counter-posing Gaddafi and Western imperialism is like demanding that I choose between Washington and Moscow (back in the Cold War, you dig?) - - neither of them support workers' revolution, so why should I support either imperial power? Yeah, yeah, Gaddafi is hardly an emperor. The point still stands - there's always a door #3. Independent of any commentary about Libya, the NOI, or anyone else mentioned in the article, why is SPLC talking about this?
Maybe they’ve gone downhill since I researched them for a school project (‘03ish), but I thought they focused on violent domestic activity of extremist groups… a speech about Obama’s foreign policy generally doesn’t fall into that category of dangerous activity.
Not sayin’ speeches can’t incite violence or what have you, but it’s just a little odd.
And hey y’all, why doesn’t anyone here see both Gaddafi and NATO for the scum they are? I got Libyan citizens I know who are anything but right-wing calling him a dictator, and while the intervention really isn’t just about oil, it IS about NATO/US reestablishing hegemony over the Arab world, in the middle of a new Arab Spring.
Counter-posing Gaddafi and Western imperialism is like demanding that I choose between Washington and Moscow (back in the Cold War, you dig?) – - neither of them support workers’ revolution, so why should I support either imperial power?
Yeah, yeah, Gaddafi is hardly an emperor. The point still stands – there’s always a door #3.

]]> By: George Sidoti http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-276197 George Sidoti Fri, 08 Apr 2011 10:28:59 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-276197 Louis Farrakhan has always been a very entertaining fellow who has made many people laugh. Farrakhan's sense of humor and "speeches" have provided laughter when a laugh was needed. Now it's "spaceships", huh... And, no doubt, the spaceships have little black men, not little green men, carrying a visa card in an effort to buy back Manhattan Island... There is a rumor that these little black men in spaceships will stop off at Bloomingdales, Best Buy and get booked on the David Letterman show. Louis Farrakhan would best serve his cause if he would call Moammar Ghaddifi (or however he spells his name) and let Ghaddifi know Aretha Franklin wants her hat back! Louis Farrakhan....Hahahahahahahaha Louis Farrakhan has always been a very entertaining fellow who has made many people laugh. Farrakhan’s sense of humor and “speeches” have provided laughter when a laugh was needed. Now it’s “spaceships”, huh… And, no doubt, the spaceships have little black men, not little green men, carrying a visa card in an effort to buy back Manhattan Island…

There is a rumor that these little black men in spaceships will stop off at Bloomingdales, Best Buy and get booked on the David Letterman show. Louis Farrakhan would best serve his cause if he would call Moammar Ghaddifi (or however he spells his name) and let Ghaddifi know Aretha Franklin wants her hat back!

Louis Farrakhan….Hahahahahahahaha

]]> By: Charles D Austin http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-275788 Charles D Austin Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:07:26 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-275788 It is such a surprise to hear this kind of superstitious non-sense coming out of the mouths of Mr. Farakhan and Mr. Shabazz. They had workd for such a long time to bring the NOI into the mainstream of American political thought and action. Now they sound like that crazy illiterate from Austin- Alex Jones and the Black Helicopters he's been screaming about all these years on local television. It is such a surprise to hear this kind of superstitious non-sense coming out of the mouths of Mr. Farakhan and Mr. Shabazz. They had workd for such a long time to bring the NOI into the mainstream of American political thought and action. Now they sound like that crazy illiterate from Austin- Alex Jones and the Black Helicopters he’s been screaming about all these years on local television.

]]> By: Ruslan Amirkhanov http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-275786 Ruslan Amirkhanov Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:06:07 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-275786 Yeah hippie, you're an expert on the civil uprising in Libya, even when the politicians behind this war can't even enunciate what the rebels want. I totally believe that. Till then, HUMAN SHIELDS and COLLATERAL DAMAGE!! It's good for NATO, it must be good for others. Yeah hippie, you’re an expert on the civil uprising in Libya, even when the politicians behind this war can’t even enunciate what the rebels want. I totally believe that.

Till then, HUMAN SHIELDS and COLLATERAL DAMAGE!! It’s good for NATO, it must be good for others.

]]> By: somehippie http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-275713 somehippie Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:20:29 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-275713 Wow the ignorance on some of these posts is staggering. Gaddafi apologists should go back to the deep dark corners of the internet where they belong. The fact is, the Libyan situation is like that in many other dictatorships whose people are finally rising up, the only difference is that those of who can help people who ask us for help, actually are doing so, unlike in Iran, Zimbabwe etc where we just let people die. Also, anyone who thinks this is about oil is a fool, there are NO plans to get oil out of that country. If we wanted the oil that badly we'd just cut a deal with Gaddafi and it'd be done. Wow the ignorance on some of these posts is staggering. Gaddafi apologists should go back to the deep dark corners of the internet where they belong. The fact is, the Libyan situation is like that in many other dictatorships whose people are finally rising up, the only difference is that those of who can help people who ask us for help, actually are doing so, unlike in Iran, Zimbabwe etc where we just let people die. Also, anyone who thinks this is about oil is a fool, there are NO plans to get oil out of that country. If we wanted the oil that badly we’d just cut a deal with Gaddafi and it’d be done.

]]> By: Ruslan Amirkhanov http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-275008 Ruslan Amirkhanov Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:17:53 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-275008 Actually Al Jazeera has been accused of being Western-biased, so they get it from both sides. As for the civilian deaths in Libya, they're just "human shields" or collateral damage. If NATO can make this claim repeatedly for MORE THAN 10 YEARS, surely Libya can do the same. Oh wait, I'm sorry, I did some checking and found that only rich countries run by white people get to excuse civilian deaths as human shields or collateral damage. Actually Al Jazeera has been accused of being Western-biased, so they get it from both sides.

As for the civilian deaths in Libya, they’re just “human shields” or collateral damage. If NATO can make this claim repeatedly for MORE THAN 10 YEARS, surely Libya can do the same.

Oh wait, I’m sorry, I did some checking and found that only rich countries run by white people get to excuse civilian deaths as human shields or collateral damage.

]]> By: Ruslan Amirkhanov http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-274875 Ruslan Amirkhanov Wed, 06 Apr 2011 07:03:11 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-274875 "Reports of the mass-murder of protesters has been corroborated by many news agencies and NGOs, including Human Rights Watch, a group nobody can accuse of being puppets for the West. The International Criminal Court is launching an investigation." Human Rights Watch continually condemns countries like Canada for alleged violations. In fact it is admitted that pretty much every country in the world routinely violates Human Rights according to the UN Declaration. Conclusion? "Human Rights" as a concept is fundamentally flawed, and we cannot speak of human rights until all humans enjoy true equality. Also while Russia Today has its biases, it is no worse than the BBC, CNN, Fox, and so on. “Reports of the mass-murder of protesters has been corroborated by many news agencies and NGOs, including Human Rights Watch, a group nobody can accuse of being puppets for the West. The International Criminal Court is launching an investigation.”

Human Rights Watch continually condemns countries like Canada for alleged violations. In fact it is admitted that pretty much every country in the world routinely violates Human Rights according to the UN Declaration. Conclusion? “Human Rights” as a concept is fundamentally flawed, and we cannot speak of human rights until all humans enjoy true equality.

Also while Russia Today has its biases, it is no worse than the BBC, CNN, Fox, and so on.

]]> By: Reynardine http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-274749 Reynardine Wed, 06 Apr 2011 01:59:03 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-274749 If you are looking for evidence of slaughter, just try the exhaustive accounts on Al Jazeera, which has never been accused of being pro- Western If you are looking for evidence of slaughter, just try the exhaustive accounts on Al Jazeera, which has never been accused of being pro- Western

]]> By: Ian http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-274591 Ian Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:17:04 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-274591 A. D. M. and Casey, "Russia Today" is not exactly a credible source around these parts. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/fall/from-russia-with-love Reports of the mass-murder of protesters has been corroborated by many news agencies and NGOs, including Human Rights Watch, a group nobody can accuse of being puppets for the West. The International Criminal Court is launching an investigation. A. D. M. and Casey,

“Russia Today” is not exactly a credible source around these parts.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-i.....-with-love

Reports of the mass-murder of protesters has been corroborated by many news agencies and NGOs, including Human Rights Watch, a group nobody can accuse of being puppets for the West. The International Criminal Court is launching an investigation.

]]> By: A.D.M. http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-274535 A.D.M. Tue, 05 Apr 2011 17:51:22 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-274535 Mistakes: "Russian intelligence satellites have shown there are no slaughters in Libya." I meant to say "no." Also, "I'm not saying Qaddafi is a saint..." I meant to say "no" there. Mistakes: “Russian intelligence satellites have shown there are no slaughters in Libya.” I meant to say “no.” Also, “I’m not saying Qaddafi is a saint…” I meant to say “no” there.

]]> By: Mitch Beales http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-274465 Mitch Beales Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:21:57 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-274465 Ruslan I'm surprised you missed this opportunity to point out that "black" makes no more sense than "white." We're pretty much all different shades of brown and classifying people by race has no scientific basis whether it's done by Stormfront or the NBPP. Ruslan I’m surprised you missed this opportunity to point out that “black” makes no more sense than “white.” We’re pretty much all different shades of brown and classifying people by race has no scientific basis whether it’s done by Stormfront or the NBPP.

]]> By: Casey Burnstein http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-274032 Casey Burnstein Mon, 04 Apr 2011 22:10:46 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-274032 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9VpUl3vFb4&sns=fb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....amp;sns=fb

]]> By: A.D.M. http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-273892 A.D.M. Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:27:49 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-273892 Majji, what proof do you have that Qaddafi is slaughtering people? Any actual pictures? Russian intelligence satellites have shown there are slaughters in Libya. If you're talking about the military fighting the so-called "rebels," who are really a thousand guys in Toyota pickup trucks, then Qaddafi should defend himself. I'm saying Qaddafi is a saint, but the Libyan situation has a lot more covert stuff going on by the Western powers who want oil. Majji, what proof do you have that Qaddafi is slaughtering people? Any actual pictures? Russian intelligence satellites have shown there are slaughters in Libya. If you’re talking about the military fighting the so-called “rebels,” who are really a thousand guys in Toyota pickup trucks, then Qaddafi should defend himself. I’m saying Qaddafi is a saint, but the Libyan situation has a lot more covert stuff going on by the Western powers who want oil.

]]> By: majii http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-273673 majii Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:59:47 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-273673 There is one thing that neither Farrakhan nor Shabazz realize, and that is that most of us African Americans don't listen to, or value, what they have to say. IMO, they're siding with Qaddafi because they share a common religious ideology. They are willing to excuse Qaddafi's atrocities against his own people, the fact that the people have few civil rights, and that he has been in power more than 40 years, in the name of Islam. This tells me that they're not men who respect inalienable rights, and that they believe that in some cases genocide is permissible. There is one thing that neither Farrakhan nor Shabazz realize, and that is that most of us African Americans don’t listen to, or value, what they have to say. IMO, they’re siding with Qaddafi because they share a common religious ideology. They are willing to excuse Qaddafi’s atrocities against his own people, the fact that the people have few civil rights, and that he has been in power more than 40 years, in the name of Islam. This tells me that they’re not men who respect inalienable rights, and that they believe that in some cases genocide is permissible.

]]> By: Ruslan Amirkhanov http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-273310 Ruslan Amirkhanov Sat, 02 Apr 2011 14:44:04 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-273310 Qaddafi isn't black, but as far as I know he has really pushed the Libya as an "African" as opposed to "Middle Eastern" or "Arab" country. The negative side of this was a lot of messing around with Chad and even supporting Idi Amin in his war against Tanzania. Amin's pathetic army simply stole the trucks the Libyans had brought with them, and drove back to the capital. Qaddafi isn’t black, but as far as I know he has really pushed the Libya as an “African” as opposed to “Middle Eastern” or “Arab” country. The negative side of this was a lot of messing around with Chad and even supporting Idi Amin in his war against Tanzania. Amin’s pathetic army simply stole the trucks the Libyans had brought with them, and drove back to the capital.

]]> By: Difluoroethene http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/01/black-extremists-blast-obama-decision-to-weaken-qaddafi-with-one-predicting-spaceships/comment-page-1/#comment-273157 Difluoroethene Sat, 02 Apr 2011 00:47:45 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6144#comment-273157 Since when has Qaddafi been black? Very little is known about his background (because he's so secretive), but some Libyan historians believe that his father was Italian and his mother was Jewish. http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/31/the-mystery-behind-moammar-gadhafis-birth-some-say-hes-jewish/ If that's true, it makes no sense for Shabazz to be saying the things that he is. But then again, very little Shabazz says makes sense. Since when has Qaddafi been black? Very little is known about his background (because he’s so secretive), but some Libyan historians believe that his father was Italian and his mother was Jewish.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03.....es-jewish/

If that’s true, it makes no sense for Shabazz to be saying the things that he is. But then again, very little Shabazz says makes sense.

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