Comments on: Wife of ‘Sovereign’ Who Killed Arkansas Police Officers Sues Police http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/21/wife-of-sovereign-who-killed-arkansas-police-officers-sues-police-department/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Fri, 24 May 2013 18:34:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Snorlax http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/21/wife-of-sovereign-who-killed-arkansas-police-officers-sues-police-department/comment-page-1/#comment-283082 Snorlax Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:00:33 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6269#comment-283082 Typical sovereign behavior, start a shootout with the cops and then sue them for the shootout. Typical sovereign behavior, start a shootout with the cops and then sue them for the shootout.

]]> By: Ruslan Amirkhanov http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/21/wife-of-sovereign-who-killed-arkansas-police-officers-sues-police-department/comment-page-1/#comment-282914 Ruslan Amirkhanov Fri, 22 Apr 2011 07:15:16 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6269#comment-282914 These groups seem to increase in power because the right-wing noise machine, along with the groups themselves, whip people up into a frenzy when there is a Democratic administration, regardless of the fact that Clinton and Obama are two of the most right wing Democratic presidents in history, and their policies are pretty much precisely what Republicans want. I remember this very well because as a kid I used to listen to conservative talk radio and read a lot of their literature(conservatism is a condition that many people mature out of, luckily). When Clinton was elected, all the conservatives around me were acting as if the country was completely lost. Under Bush, they went on the defensive. Now obviously extremist groups from sovereign citizens, militia types, to white nationalists and what-not, don't endorse Republicans or Bush. However, when they are on a radical streak during a Democratic victory, they experience a swell in numbers of angry, typically middle-aged white males who are so pissed off about something that they will seek refuge with anyone who will listen to them and extend sympathy. It's a though process something like this: "Hmm...Bill and his friends sure have some crazy ideas, but I'm so pissed off at Obama for reasons I can't properly articulate, and we agree on that." Of course when Bush was elected, a lot of people who hated Clinton, who saw the 90s as a decadent, amoral era, accepted the professed Evangelical Bush. He was one of them, and there was no reason to stick to any kind of radical principle. Of course a declining economy, which is sure to get worse as time goes on, will create more radicals of every stripe. However, I am quite certain that under the next Republican administration, and particularly if it is an evangelical Christian(or someone who claims to bethus), there will be a steep decline in many of these groups, and the Tea Party will suddenly be enforcing a healthy respect for the president, as they did for nearly 8 years under Bush. These groups seem to increase in power because the right-wing noise machine, along with the groups themselves, whip people up into a frenzy when there is a Democratic administration, regardless of the fact that Clinton and Obama are two of the most right wing Democratic presidents in history, and their policies are pretty much precisely what Republicans want. I remember this very well because as a kid I used to listen to conservative talk radio and read a lot of their literature(conservatism is a condition that many people mature out of, luckily).

When Clinton was elected, all the conservatives around me were acting as if the country was completely lost. Under Bush, they went on the defensive.

Now obviously extremist groups from sovereign citizens, militia types, to white nationalists and what-not, don’t endorse Republicans or Bush. However, when they are on a radical streak during a Democratic victory, they experience a swell in numbers of angry, typically middle-aged white males who are so pissed off about something that they will seek refuge with anyone who will listen to them and extend sympathy.

It’s a though process something like this:

“Hmm…Bill and his friends sure have some crazy ideas, but I’m so pissed off at Obama for reasons I can’t properly articulate, and we agree on that.”

Of course when Bush was elected, a lot of people who hated Clinton, who saw the 90s as a decadent, amoral era, accepted the professed Evangelical Bush. He was one of them, and there was no reason to stick to any kind of radical principle.

Of course a declining economy, which is sure to get worse as time goes on, will create more radicals of every stripe. However, I am quite certain that under the next Republican administration, and particularly if it is an evangelical Christian(or someone who claims to bethus), there will be a steep decline in many of these groups, and the Tea Party will suddenly be enforcing a healthy respect for the president, as they did for nearly 8 years under Bush.

]]> By: Karmen LaShaun Miller http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/21/wife-of-sovereign-who-killed-arkansas-police-officers-sues-police-department/comment-page-1/#comment-282758 Karmen LaShaun Miller Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:08:05 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6269#comment-282758 Why does it appear since the election of Mr.Obama, the economy created by greedy elitists who continue to sit shriveled up in a corner, we appear to be moving backwards. Groups like this were thriving at a very volatile time in the 1990s. When the economy is riding low is when these "individuals" pop up and unfortunately naive and uncaring politicians clasp on for a ride and let go when it is brought to light. As always, feigning ignorance in order to get a sound bite and continuing to play into fear. This lawsuit is an insult to all law enforcement officers. The judge needs to dismiss before May 2. Why does it appear since the election of Mr.Obama, the economy created by greedy elitists who continue to sit shriveled up in a corner, we appear to be moving backwards. Groups like this were thriving at a very volatile time in the 1990s. When the economy is riding low is when these “individuals” pop up and unfortunately naive and uncaring politicians clasp on for a ride and let go when it is brought to light. As always, feigning ignorance in order to get a sound bite and continuing to play into fear. This lawsuit is an insult to all law enforcement officers. The judge needs to dismiss before May 2.

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