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	<title>Comments on: Let&#8217;s Call the &#8216;Birthers&#8217; What They Are</title>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-288549</link>
		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 00:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick Lancaster,
I think that we are not on the same page when I mentioned the spanking. So I agree, let&#039;s leave that one alone.

Colt 45! Wow! Don&#039;t know about that one in the &#039;hood. In my hood, it was 40 oz. Old English. But again, it was a joke about Bud, Miller and Jack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Lancaster,<br />
I think that we are not on the same page when I mentioned the spanking. So I agree, let&#8217;s leave that one alone.</p>
<p>Colt 45! Wow! Don&#8217;t know about that one in the &#8216;hood. In my hood, it was 40 oz. Old English. But again, it was a joke about Bud, Miller and Jack.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Lancaster</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287667</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not hard to belive there are black Republicans but it IS hard to BE a black Republican.

The last time I had a beer was when Colt 45 was popular in the &quot;hood&quot;. So booze references are forign to me.

As far as my spanking goes, I&#039;d better leave that one alone. I&#039;m married to a white red head and have no problem stereotyping that group. My survival depends on it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not hard to belive there are black Republicans but it IS hard to BE a black Republican.</p>
<p>The last time I had a beer was when Colt 45 was popular in the &#8220;hood&#8221;. So booze references are forign to me.</p>
<p>As far as my spanking goes, I&#8217;d better leave that one alone. I&#8217;m married to a white red head and have no problem stereotyping that group. My survival depends on it!</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287534</link>
		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 05:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick Lancaster,
Okay, I think I see where you&#039;re going with this. BTW, I used to be a republican, most of my family members are republicans. I&#039;m thinking that is where I got most of my bad manners, and last but not least, I&#039;m &#039;hood. I know it&#039;s hard to believe that blacks are republicans, especially in black neighborhoods, but, most people who served in the military are republican voters.

And it was just a little teaser joke when I said Bud, Miller, or Jack. My family members use this joke when they say someone is not behaving, just like you. You are being a bad boy needing a little spanking. But here goes, Bud is Budweiser, Miller is Miller Lite, and Jack is Jack Daniels. Again, I was just teasing. ***I hope this made you laugh. Laughter is good once in a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Lancaster,<br />
Okay, I think I see where you&#8217;re going with this. BTW, I used to be a republican, most of my family members are republicans. I&#8217;m thinking that is where I got most of my bad manners, and last but not least, I&#8217;m &#8216;hood. I know it&#8217;s hard to believe that blacks are republicans, especially in black neighborhoods, but, most people who served in the military are republican voters.</p>
<p>And it was just a little teaser joke when I said Bud, Miller, or Jack. My family members use this joke when they say someone is not behaving, just like you. You are being a bad boy needing a little spanking. But here goes, Bud is Budweiser, Miller is Miller Lite, and Jack is Jack Daniels. Again, I was just teasing. ***I hope this made you laugh. Laughter is good once in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: hardhat</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287524</link>
		<dc:creator>hardhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 03:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello. Did u people listen to Herman Cain last night? When asked what group of people did not like him on talk radio today, he responded &quot;black liberals&quot;. Do these people still want him to reside on the plantation.? This guy is truly black, 100%, and he is a breath of fresh air. I think Barry is a walking contradiction, but this man, Mr. Cain does not skate around the block.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. Did u people listen to Herman Cain last night? When asked what group of people did not like him on talk radio today, he responded &#8220;black liberals&#8221;. Do these people still want him to reside on the plantation.? This guy is truly black, 100%, and he is a breath of fresh air. I think Barry is a walking contradiction, but this man, Mr. Cain does not skate around the block.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Lancaster</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287445</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 20:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Skinny, no research project. I just enjoy reading your posts. While you get a little insulting from time to time (as do I), your views rarely depend on ridicule of your opponent. Thus, I take your viewpoints as sincere since they stand alone with or without rebuttal.

I used to admire the SPLC and their work to eradicate the klan. But their &quot;hatewatch&quot; is completely one sided. When they started labeling any group with traditional or conservative values as racist, that&#039;s when they lost me. 

Their leadership is complete hypocracy but their fans aren&#039;t all that way.

By the way, I haven&#039;t got a clue who Bud, Miller or Jack, JD are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Skinny, no research project. I just enjoy reading your posts. While you get a little insulting from time to time (as do I), your views rarely depend on ridicule of your opponent. Thus, I take your viewpoints as sincere since they stand alone with or without rebuttal.</p>
<p>I used to admire the SPLC and their work to eradicate the klan. But their &#8220;hatewatch&#8221; is completely one sided. When they started labeling any group with traditional or conservative values as racist, that&#8217;s when they lost me. </p>
<p>Their leadership is complete hypocracy but their fans aren&#8217;t all that way.</p>
<p>By the way, I haven&#8217;t got a clue who Bud, Miller or Jack, JD are.</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287268</link>
		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 04:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick,
Okay, you&#039;re making me laugh again! But wow, sometimes, seriously, I do wonder if you had been kicking it/chillin&#039; with Bud, Miller, or Jack aka JD. just a little too much. LOL! BTW, I hope you&#039;re not using me &#039;as research project.&#039; LOL! ROTFLMAO! LOL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick,<br />
Okay, you&#8217;re making me laugh again! But wow, sometimes, seriously, I do wonder if you had been kicking it/chillin&#8217; with Bud, Miller, or Jack aka JD. just a little too much. LOL! BTW, I hope you&#8217;re not using me &#8216;as research project.&#8217; LOL! ROTFLMAO! LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Guardian</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287236</link>
		<dc:creator>Guardian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 01:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok I get it now. 
We&#039;re just changed the name of the parties from &#039;Republican&#039; to &#039;Racist&#039; and &#039;Democrat&#039; to &#039;Domestic Enemy&#039;. 
A rose by any other name? 
No matter the name of the party, the policies stay the same and thus lays the problem. Get over it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I get it now.<br />
We&#8217;re just changed the name of the parties from &#8216;Republican&#8217; to &#8216;Racist&#8217; and &#8216;Democrat&#8217; to &#8216;Domestic Enemy&#8217;.<br />
A rose by any other name?<br />
No matter the name of the party, the policies stay the same and thus lays the problem. Get over it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287224</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 00:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If a quote appears only in racist literature and racists are thus defined by their political opponents based solely on what these opponents consider racist, then it only stands to reason nothing contrary to the beliefs of my political opponents can be true, because all who oppose them are racists.

This is the circular secret of the power of the concept of political correctness.&quot;
 
O.K., so if someone (a person or group) who is against the actions or views of another [person/group] says something about that [person/group] (or says said person/group said something) it is true. If no other source even mentions this, all the other sources are all lying... 
&quot;Catch-a twenty-two, Catch-a twenty-two!&quot; 
&quot;That&#039;s some catch, that Catch-22.&quot;
Also, dictionaries are responsible for definitions, people are racist if they meet the excepted dictionary definition (you can find this definition in either Merriam-Websters, Encarta, or Oxford), the definition reflects modern word usage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a quote appears only in racist literature and racists are thus defined by their political opponents based solely on what these opponents consider racist, then it only stands to reason nothing contrary to the beliefs of my political opponents can be true, because all who oppose them are racists.</p>
<p>This is the circular secret of the power of the concept of political correctness.&#8221;</p>
<p>O.K., so if someone (a person or group) who is against the actions or views of another [person/group] says something about that [person/group] (or says said person/group said something) it is true. If no other source even mentions this, all the other sources are all lying&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Catch-a twenty-two, Catch-a twenty-two!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s some catch, that Catch-22.&#8221;<br />
Also, dictionaries are responsible for definitions, people are racist if they meet the excepted dictionary definition (you can find this definition in either Merriam-Websters, Encarta, or Oxford), the definition reflects modern word usage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287164</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also since your reply shows your complete inability to understand basic logical concepts, let me break down the significance of not finding a quote save for on certain sites with an analogy.  

There are many conspiracy theories which attempt to justify themselves with alleged quotes by various historical figures. If you can&#039;t find a particular quote except for on sites which put forth that theory, there&#039;s a good chance they never said it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also since your reply shows your complete inability to understand basic logical concepts, let me break down the significance of not finding a quote save for on certain sites with an analogy.  </p>
<p>There are many conspiracy theories which attempt to justify themselves with alleged quotes by various historical figures. If you can&#8217;t find a particular quote except for on sites which put forth that theory, there&#8217;s a good chance they never said it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow Dick, let&#039;s go over this REAL slowly:  

You posted an alleged quote from LBJ.  I could not find a single source for the quote save for sites which are run by either White Nationalists are hardcore conservatives.  This means there is no objective verification for that quote.

If the quote appeared on say Wikipedia, or a site which contained a biography of LBJ, then this would be believable.  However this is not the case.  In fact I&#039;m going to dig up my copy of They Never Said It!(a book of misquotes), and I would not be surprised if it has been debunked for a long time.

The quote even contains a kernal of racist thinking from the time.  It suggests that welfare was all about black people(statistically it isn&#039;t), and that LBJ was giving them a hand-out in return for votes.  This is exactly what conservatives and other reactionaries were saying back then, and you&#039;re saying it now.  This kind of projection into supposed quotes is almost a tradition on the right.  

For an example, a congressman once claimed he had a list of &quot;goals of Communists&quot; operating in the US and the West.  Among the goals was the aim of &quot;pushing for independence of overseas colonial countries before they are ready.&quot;  No Communist would ever write such a thing.  

Face it Dick, you have a proclivity toward believing any urban legend or claim which reflects negatively on black people, while you ignore any information which refutes such claims, even when it is based on tons of scientific facts.  Why is that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Dick, let&#8217;s go over this REAL slowly:  </p>
<p>You posted an alleged quote from LBJ.  I could not find a single source for the quote save for sites which are run by either White Nationalists are hardcore conservatives.  This means there is no objective verification for that quote.</p>
<p>If the quote appeared on say Wikipedia, or a site which contained a biography of LBJ, then this would be believable.  However this is not the case.  In fact I&#8217;m going to dig up my copy of They Never Said It!(a book of misquotes), and I would not be surprised if it has been debunked for a long time.</p>
<p>The quote even contains a kernal of racist thinking from the time.  It suggests that welfare was all about black people(statistically it isn&#8217;t), and that LBJ was giving them a hand-out in return for votes.  This is exactly what conservatives and other reactionaries were saying back then, and you&#8217;re saying it now.  This kind of projection into supposed quotes is almost a tradition on the right.  </p>
<p>For an example, a congressman once claimed he had a list of &#8220;goals of Communists&#8221; operating in the US and the West.  Among the goals was the aim of &#8220;pushing for independence of overseas colonial countries before they are ready.&#8221;  No Communist would ever write such a thing.  </p>
<p>Face it Dick, you have a proclivity toward believing any urban legend or claim which reflects negatively on black people, while you ignore any information which refutes such claims, even when it is based on tons of scientific facts.  Why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Lancaster</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287152</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 19:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If a quote appears only in racist literature and racists are thus defined by their political opponents based solely on what these opponents consider racist, then it only stands to reason nothing contrary to the beliefs of my political opponents can be true, because all who oppose them are racists.

This is the circular secret of the power of the concept of political correctness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a quote appears only in racist literature and racists are thus defined by their political opponents based solely on what these opponents consider racist, then it only stands to reason nothing contrary to the beliefs of my political opponents can be true, because all who oppose them are racists.</p>
<p>This is the circular secret of the power of the concept of political correctness.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-287044</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 12:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to point out again(as it was cut out of my last comment for some reason), that Dick&#039;s quote from LBJ about the Democratic party cannot be verified as far as I can see.  It seems to appear only on racist and conservative sites, and is totally contrary to Johnson&#039;s actions regarding race.  What he did say is that the Democrats had lost the South for a generation.  Looks like it was longer than that.  

Anyway, I decided to tally up Dick&#039;s racist score card:

1, Implied that blacks are lazy, and were easily duped into voting for a party because they were promised free money(curiously, many years before 1964 somehow).

2. Implication that welfare primarily benefits black folks to the extent that we should associate welfare with black people.  

3. Outright claim that blacks as a whole have a psychological delusion which keeps them from acknowledging facts(this is some SERIOUS psychological projection going on).  On the surface this might seem valid, until you realize that many of the &quot;facts&quot; that blacks supposedly won&#039;t acknowledge aren&#039;t facts at all.

4. A general willingness to accept all manner of meme or anecdote that is negative toward blacks, portrays them as lazy, parasitic, etc.  

TOTAL RQ(RACISM QUOTIENT): 687
YOU HAVE ACHIEVED THE LEVEL OF: &quot;But I&#039;ve got MANY black friends!!!&quot; 

Congratulations, Mr. Lancaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to point out again(as it was cut out of my last comment for some reason), that Dick&#8217;s quote from LBJ about the Democratic party cannot be verified as far as I can see.  It seems to appear only on racist and conservative sites, and is totally contrary to Johnson&#8217;s actions regarding race.  What he did say is that the Democrats had lost the South for a generation.  Looks like it was longer than that.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I decided to tally up Dick&#8217;s racist score card:</p>
<p>1, Implied that blacks are lazy, and were easily duped into voting for a party because they were promised free money(curiously, many years before 1964 somehow).</p>
<p>2. Implication that welfare primarily benefits black folks to the extent that we should associate welfare with black people.  </p>
<p>3. Outright claim that blacks as a whole have a psychological delusion which keeps them from acknowledging facts(this is some SERIOUS psychological projection going on).  On the surface this might seem valid, until you realize that many of the &#8220;facts&#8221; that blacks supposedly won&#8217;t acknowledge aren&#8217;t facts at all.</p>
<p>4. A general willingness to accept all manner of meme or anecdote that is negative toward blacks, portrays them as lazy, parasitic, etc.  </p>
<p>TOTAL RQ(RACISM QUOTIENT): 687<br />
YOU HAVE ACHIEVED THE LEVEL OF: &#8220;But I&#8217;ve got MANY black friends!!!&#8221; </p>
<p>Congratulations, Mr. Lancaster.</p>
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		<title>By: hardhat</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286958</link>
		<dc:creator>hardhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 03:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could not even imagine this is about racism...no.....!!!!!That race card is flipped more than my cell phone. Gimme a friggin break! Hang it up. It is OLD!!!! It is TIRING.
 Barry is half Caucasian......did u know? Stoppit!!! Tolerance.....what tolerance? Now if Herman Cain runs for the Highest Office, he is 100 percent black and I would consider voting for him .Listen to him......he makes sense. I do believe he will NOT have &quot;invisibility&quot; clouding his records. I think he is proud of his achievements, and will show us his stuff. Cain 2012]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not even imagine this is about racism&#8230;no&#8230;..!!!!!That race card is flipped more than my cell phone. Gimme a friggin break! Hang it up. It is OLD!!!! It is TIRING.<br />
 Barry is half Caucasian&#8230;&#8230;did u know? Stoppit!!! Tolerance&#8230;..what tolerance? Now if Herman Cain runs for the Highest Office, he is 100 percent black and I would consider voting for him .Listen to him&#8230;&#8230;he makes sense. I do believe he will NOT have &#8220;invisibility&#8221; clouding his records. I think he is proud of his achievements, and will show us his stuff. Cain 2012</p>
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		<title>By: April Scheller</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286953</link>
		<dc:creator>April Scheller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 03:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Hatewatch Bloggers,
As excited and impressed with praise as I am by the work you do for other minorities I am deeply hurt and disappointed that you are practicing bigotry too. Hate is not a valid disability and in suggesting so you only support those who wish to accommodate hatred at the expense of my Mad ethnicity and see that other hate groups escape justice while the unjustly segregate laws harming those considered to have mental disability continues on.  I am an activist in the Madpride movement and against excusing hate. Hate groups are literally getting away with murder today by the employment of this segregate law for insanity created by the sanist bigots. In June I am speaking against it at City University of New York because other Mad activists invited me to do so.  Madness is most frequently categorized under the following: genetic distinctness within the human population [a race], behavioral distinctness within the community [a culture], or distinctness from having lived through a traumatizing situation [a caste]. There are many other words once used to describe those today labeled by psychiatrists now being reclaimed by the rebelling equality movement such as lunatic and nut. A person can simply not advance human rights while at the same time practicing sanism in ignorance by use of sanist themes in the context of determinism. You of the SPLC should be aware that the true bigots love sanism immensely because today that form of hatred is allowing all other forms of bigotry to perpetuate itself without fear of legal recourse merely by recasting any of their members whom get into real trouble with law enforcement as suddenly disabled. This allows organized bigotry to practice real terrorism against minorities with impunity in the USA. Major disability advocacy groups are often front organizations funded by the forced treatment industry which supports segregate laws for my people denying the need to treat disabled persons according to their deeds. To spread fear they stigmatize all innocents by trying to de-stigmatize violent offenders and end up making an enormous profit by passing laws that discriminate against innocent Mad people and require them to be for instance force drugged or force shocked whether they are criminals or not simply because they are supposed to have some kind of natural abnormality in the absence of actual violence.
For more information please visit the following sites to learn of this form of hatred:
Mindfreedom.org
Madnessradio.net
No one will ever be equal while calling themselves naturally superior to others nor can you advance equality at the SPLC while denying it to me and all Mad persons upon the basis of race, culture, and castes of which you had not understanding. I would like to welcome you to instead truly fight hate with us. We are underutilized and I believe that underutilization is key to the problems you are really facing in advancing human equality.
 April Scheller]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Hatewatch Bloggers,<br />
As excited and impressed with praise as I am by the work you do for other minorities I am deeply hurt and disappointed that you are practicing bigotry too. Hate is not a valid disability and in suggesting so you only support those who wish to accommodate hatred at the expense of my Mad ethnicity and see that other hate groups escape justice while the unjustly segregate laws harming those considered to have mental disability continues on.  I am an activist in the Madpride movement and against excusing hate. Hate groups are literally getting away with murder today by the employment of this segregate law for insanity created by the sanist bigots. In June I am speaking against it at City University of New York because other Mad activists invited me to do so.  Madness is most frequently categorized under the following: genetic distinctness within the human population [a race], behavioral distinctness within the community [a culture], or distinctness from having lived through a traumatizing situation [a caste]. There are many other words once used to describe those today labeled by psychiatrists now being reclaimed by the rebelling equality movement such as lunatic and nut. A person can simply not advance human rights while at the same time practicing sanism in ignorance by use of sanist themes in the context of determinism. You of the SPLC should be aware that the true bigots love sanism immensely because today that form of hatred is allowing all other forms of bigotry to perpetuate itself without fear of legal recourse merely by recasting any of their members whom get into real trouble with law enforcement as suddenly disabled. This allows organized bigotry to practice real terrorism against minorities with impunity in the USA. Major disability advocacy groups are often front organizations funded by the forced treatment industry which supports segregate laws for my people denying the need to treat disabled persons according to their deeds. To spread fear they stigmatize all innocents by trying to de-stigmatize violent offenders and end up making an enormous profit by passing laws that discriminate against innocent Mad people and require them to be for instance force drugged or force shocked whether they are criminals or not simply because they are supposed to have some kind of natural abnormality in the absence of actual violence.<br />
For more information please visit the following sites to learn of this form of hatred:<br />
Mindfreedom.org<br />
Madnessradio.net<br />
No one will ever be equal while calling themselves naturally superior to others nor can you advance equality at the SPLC while denying it to me and all Mad persons upon the basis of race, culture, and castes of which you had not understanding. I would like to welcome you to instead truly fight hate with us. We are underutilized and I believe that underutilization is key to the problems you are really facing in advancing human equality.<br />
 April Scheller</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286873</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 20:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Since I do not see the Democrat Party offering human dignity, respect and recognition but instead see it generally as a vote buying scam, you have already established that I am demeaning a hard working people. And thus our circle continues; if I oppose your politics, then I must be a racist.&quot;

Again, vote buying scam, as if they just fork over money to black folks for votes.  Nonsense.  Statistics simply do not back up these claims, the &quot;welfare queen&quot; meme was demonstrably false, and still is.  THAT, and things like what you said, is why people are calling you racist, not because of your opposition to certain politics. 

I am opposed to Obama and the Democrats, and for the fifth or sixth time, NOBODY calls me racist for this.  What am I doing differently? 

&quot;What should concern anyone who believes in our founding principles is that people that think as you do vote and sit on juries.&quot;

And people who believe urban legends and easily disproved claims can be trusted on juries?

Forget it, just give us some evidence as to how Obama is a domestic enemy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Since I do not see the Democrat Party offering human dignity, respect and recognition but instead see it generally as a vote buying scam, you have already established that I am demeaning a hard working people. And thus our circle continues; if I oppose your politics, then I must be a racist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, vote buying scam, as if they just fork over money to black folks for votes.  Nonsense.  Statistics simply do not back up these claims, the &#8220;welfare queen&#8221; meme was demonstrably false, and still is.  THAT, and things like what you said, is why people are calling you racist, not because of your opposition to certain politics. </p>
<p>I am opposed to Obama and the Democrats, and for the fifth or sixth time, NOBODY calls me racist for this.  What am I doing differently? </p>
<p>&#8220;What should concern anyone who believes in our founding principles is that people that think as you do vote and sit on juries.&#8221;</p>
<p>And people who believe urban legends and easily disproved claims can be trusted on juries?</p>
<p>Forget it, just give us some evidence as to how Obama is a domestic enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286865</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 19:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick, I was just wondering if it every struck you that we here have not been ignoring and dismissing your arguments with the word &quot;racist&quot;.  We have repeatedly explained to you why your right-wing rants can easily and rightfully been construed as racist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick, I was just wondering if it every struck you that we here have not been ignoring and dismissing your arguments with the word &#8220;racist&#8221;.  We have repeatedly explained to you why your right-wing rants can easily and rightfully been construed as racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Lancaster</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286856</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skinny:

I love you, baby and I know where your heart is. But sometimes I wonder where you keep your brain.

Actually, I do learn a lot from you and I do believe I know where you&#039;re coming from --a different experience that I can accept. I read all your posts so don&#039;t post so many. I have other things to do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skinny:</p>
<p>I love you, baby and I know where your heart is. But sometimes I wonder where you keep your brain.</p>
<p>Actually, I do learn a lot from you and I do believe I know where you&#8217;re coming from &#8211;a different experience that I can accept. I read all your posts so don&#8217;t post so many. I have other things to do!</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Lancaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A domestic enemy is unlikely to define himself as such during a campaign. Nor is he likely to articulate that trait. It is up to the news media to investigate such matters and if our domestic enemy is supported by our media it is unlikely the public will know very much about his history until it is too late. So, by definition, the people can vote for a wooden puppet if they think it&#039;s the real deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A domestic enemy is unlikely to define himself as such during a campaign. Nor is he likely to articulate that trait. It is up to the news media to investigate such matters and if our domestic enemy is supported by our media it is unlikely the public will know very much about his history until it is too late. So, by definition, the people can vote for a wooden puppet if they think it&#8217;s the real deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Lancaster</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286854</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Robert Steinback:

I agree that the defining division regarding race came in 1964, but there was hardly a stampede of avowed racists flocking to the Republican Party. President Johnson himself was a well known racist as well as a malignant narcissist. Among other quotes attributed to him at the time of the civil rights passage was, “This should keep them n****rs voting Democrat for the next 200 years!” The great efforts behind voting rights had little to do with altruism and much to do with power. 

As I stated in earlier posts, it was the communists that hitched a ride on the civil rights train thus making opposition to one equate with opposition to the other. The Republican Party had little support from black people as well as white lower class folks due to their “blue blood” reputation; a class rather than a race issue with less than blessed voters. Although the Republican Party has changed dramatically since that time, blacks generally have not followed due to a trait psychologists call “investment”. It is the same trait which prevents science from advancing. In short, it is the reluctance to give up a long held “truth” in the face of new data which disproves that truth. There is also a severe backlash from the base should one of its members stray. It is very difficult to be a black Republican or conservative in a black neighborhood. Free your own people and see how many remain with the Democrat Party.

The sweeping generalization about how black people make political decisions is a bit condescending. But I believe you are talking generally here so I am inclined to dismiss this in the spirit in which it was written. However, many self-appointed black leaders do this routinely.

I do agree that to the exclusion of all other races in contemporary human history it has been the African that has been most exploited. I also believe it is carried in the psyche. For this reason and this reason alone those who don’t carry this psychic memory ought to consider it in legislation, education and other institutions societies build for themselves. But this should only be a consideration; it should never dominate lest we have a “special” race which re-establishes segregation—in this instance, self-segregation.

Since I do not see the Democrat Party offering human dignity, respect and recognition but instead see it generally as a vote buying scam, you have already established that I am demeaning a hard working people. And thus our circle continues; if I oppose your politics, then I must be a racist.

What should concern anyone who believes in our founding principles is that people that think as you do vote and sit on juries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Robert Steinback:</p>
<p>I agree that the defining division regarding race came in 1964, but there was hardly a stampede of avowed racists flocking to the Republican Party. President Johnson himself was a well known racist as well as a malignant narcissist. Among other quotes attributed to him at the time of the civil rights passage was, “This should keep them n****rs voting Democrat for the next 200 years!” The great efforts behind voting rights had little to do with altruism and much to do with power. </p>
<p>As I stated in earlier posts, it was the communists that hitched a ride on the civil rights train thus making opposition to one equate with opposition to the other. The Republican Party had little support from black people as well as white lower class folks due to their “blue blood” reputation; a class rather than a race issue with less than blessed voters. Although the Republican Party has changed dramatically since that time, blacks generally have not followed due to a trait psychologists call “investment”. It is the same trait which prevents science from advancing. In short, it is the reluctance to give up a long held “truth” in the face of new data which disproves that truth. There is also a severe backlash from the base should one of its members stray. It is very difficult to be a black Republican or conservative in a black neighborhood. Free your own people and see how many remain with the Democrat Party.</p>
<p>The sweeping generalization about how black people make political decisions is a bit condescending. But I believe you are talking generally here so I am inclined to dismiss this in the spirit in which it was written. However, many self-appointed black leaders do this routinely.</p>
<p>I do agree that to the exclusion of all other races in contemporary human history it has been the African that has been most exploited. I also believe it is carried in the psyche. For this reason and this reason alone those who don’t carry this psychic memory ought to consider it in legislation, education and other institutions societies build for themselves. But this should only be a consideration; it should never dominate lest we have a “special” race which re-establishes segregation—in this instance, self-segregation.</p>
<p>Since I do not see the Democrat Party offering human dignity, respect and recognition but instead see it generally as a vote buying scam, you have already established that I am demeaning a hard working people. And thus our circle continues; if I oppose your politics, then I must be a racist.</p>
<p>What should concern anyone who believes in our founding principles is that people that think as you do vote and sit on juries.</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286776</link>
		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 07:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick Lancaster,
May I add, I am well aware of the light skin/dark skin controversy. My other side of the family is white and have disowned the black side, but then again, the white side is from the Midwest, so go figure! I don&#039;t think this is dirty laundry actually, remember George Herbert Walker Bush called Jeb&#039;s children, &#039;the Brown Ones,&#039; during a campaign.

Finally, I will add, all blacks are not alike, just like all whites are not alike. Another example of this is, small town folks are different from big city folks. No one ever really knows anyone - you can be married (legally or by common law) a lifetime and think you know someone, and really don&#039;t know them at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Lancaster,<br />
May I add, I am well aware of the light skin/dark skin controversy. My other side of the family is white and have disowned the black side, but then again, the white side is from the Midwest, so go figure! I don&#8217;t think this is dirty laundry actually, remember George Herbert Walker Bush called Jeb&#8217;s children, &#8216;the Brown Ones,&#8217; during a campaign.</p>
<p>Finally, I will add, all blacks are not alike, just like all whites are not alike. Another example of this is, small town folks are different from big city folks. No one ever really knows anyone &#8211; you can be married (legally or by common law) a lifetime and think you know someone, and really don&#8217;t know them at all.</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286772</link>
		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 07:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay Dick, now I am a little more focused (earlier, had to get ready for night out).

I voted for Obama. I plan to vote for him again. I&#039;m thinking, people are not giving him a chance - meaning, people are trying to railroad him at any and all costs. Sad thing is, we all have a stake in rather he fail or succeed.

I was disappointed to read that you believe he is &#039;domestic enemy.&#039; Please don&#039;t take this personal, but, I believe this is problem one of the reasons your wife left. I think she probably wouldn&#039;t want to be punished/interrogated/imprisoned or even involved in something of this magnitude. The way you said it, it sounds kind of alarming. 

Now for me, and this is just my opinions - I would be more afraid and concerned about the D. This is why, and this is my view and conclusion - he say&#039;s he will use his own money, up to $600 million. Yet, when you look at the cities, counties, states, and the fed govt, he has sued - almost all were at least $100 million per suit. These lawsuits put the taxpayers on the hook, regardless if they are won/loss/settled (do you know how much it costs to defend lawsuits?) So, back to the $600 million - is it really his own money, or is it the taxpayers money? One of the lawsuits against the feds was a counter-suit against the DOJ for suing him because he didn&#039;t want to rent to black tenets. There have been numerous black ex-employees coming forward. Did you see what he did to the Pequot tribe in reference to their casinos? Did you know what he did to the Chinese he sued? I think what was disturbing is the suit against Rancho Palos Verdes - a suit for $100 million when this city has revenues of about $20 million. Then the suit against Florida about a flag! So, this is how I sum it up, I think he throws his weight around, and threaten to bankrupt a city - reminds me of the movie Basic Instinct, where government officials are scared that rich people could actually bankrupt a government entity. This to me seems more of a person who really, and I mean really, doesn&#039;t like America! I will say again, is it his $600 million or is it the taxpayers money? So, for the tea party who complains about taxes, I&#039;m at a loss to find they are endorsing a guy who they are probably on the hook for (shortfall in revenues, bankrupt cities/states).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Dick, now I am a little more focused (earlier, had to get ready for night out).</p>
<p>I voted for Obama. I plan to vote for him again. I&#8217;m thinking, people are not giving him a chance &#8211; meaning, people are trying to railroad him at any and all costs. Sad thing is, we all have a stake in rather he fail or succeed.</p>
<p>I was disappointed to read that you believe he is &#8216;domestic enemy.&#8217; Please don&#8217;t take this personal, but, I believe this is problem one of the reasons your wife left. I think she probably wouldn&#8217;t want to be punished/interrogated/imprisoned or even involved in something of this magnitude. The way you said it, it sounds kind of alarming. </p>
<p>Now for me, and this is just my opinions &#8211; I would be more afraid and concerned about the D. This is why, and this is my view and conclusion &#8211; he say&#8217;s he will use his own money, up to $600 million. Yet, when you look at the cities, counties, states, and the fed govt, he has sued &#8211; almost all were at least $100 million per suit. These lawsuits put the taxpayers on the hook, regardless if they are won/loss/settled (do you know how much it costs to defend lawsuits?) So, back to the $600 million &#8211; is it really his own money, or is it the taxpayers money? One of the lawsuits against the feds was a counter-suit against the DOJ for suing him because he didn&#8217;t want to rent to black tenets. There have been numerous black ex-employees coming forward. Did you see what he did to the Pequot tribe in reference to their casinos? Did you know what he did to the Chinese he sued? I think what was disturbing is the suit against Rancho Palos Verdes &#8211; a suit for $100 million when this city has revenues of about $20 million. Then the suit against Florida about a flag! So, this is how I sum it up, I think he throws his weight around, and threaten to bankrupt a city &#8211; reminds me of the movie Basic Instinct, where government officials are scared that rich people could actually bankrupt a government entity. This to me seems more of a person who really, and I mean really, doesn&#8217;t like America! I will say again, is it his $600 million or is it the taxpayers money? So, for the tea party who complains about taxes, I&#8217;m at a loss to find they are endorsing a guy who they are probably on the hook for (shortfall in revenues, bankrupt cities/states).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Steinback</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286704</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Steinback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 23:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to Dick Lancaster,

I usually remind people who describe Republicans as the &quot;Party of Lincoln&quot; that it is also the party of Rutherford B. Hayes, who in 1877 sold out Reconstruction (thereby clearing the way for the rise of the Klan and southern Jim Crow laws that endured for close to a century) as part of a compromise to grant him the presidency in an election in which he did not win the popular vote (the anomaly that would be repeated in 2000). Both parties have had rival internal factions regarding race (the Democratic party created racists like Strom Thurmond and George Wallace as well as racial progressives like Harry Truman and the Kennedys, while the Republicans -- who really began as the racial progressives long ago -- produced both moderates like Eisenhower and extremists like Goldwater). The defining political division regarding race came with the passage of Civil Rights Act in 1964, which Lyndon Johnson signed while acknowledging, &quot;We [the Democrats] just lost the south for a generation.&quot; He was right: At that point, the vast majority of avowed racists went Republican, and the vast majority of racial progressives went Democratic. Before 1964, many southern blacks were Republican (because of the legacy of the Dixiecrats). Afterward, they knew which party was hostile and which welcomed them -- and they voted with their feet. The modern Republican party has so little support from black people because in the defining 1960s, the party chose to snub them. Black people, whose very existence in the New World was defined by generations of back-breaking toil in fields they didn&#039;t own, making other people rich. Black people have never made political decisions based on which party would give them government welfare. We have voted for the candidates and parties who were willing to reciprocate by offering human dignity, respect and recognition. To suggest otherwise is to demean a people who have worked harder in this land, and received less opportunity as a result of that work, than any other. 
 
Robert Steinback
Deputy Editor, Hatewatch blog]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Dick Lancaster,</p>
<p>I usually remind people who describe Republicans as the &#8220;Party of Lincoln&#8221; that it is also the party of Rutherford B. Hayes, who in 1877 sold out Reconstruction (thereby clearing the way for the rise of the Klan and southern Jim Crow laws that endured for close to a century) as part of a compromise to grant him the presidency in an election in which he did not win the popular vote (the anomaly that would be repeated in 2000). Both parties have had rival internal factions regarding race (the Democratic party created racists like Strom Thurmond and George Wallace as well as racial progressives like Harry Truman and the Kennedys, while the Republicans &#8212; who really began as the racial progressives long ago &#8212; produced both moderates like Eisenhower and extremists like Goldwater). The defining political division regarding race came with the passage of Civil Rights Act in 1964, which Lyndon Johnson signed while acknowledging, &#8220;We [the Democrats] just lost the south for a generation.&#8221; He was right: At that point, the vast majority of avowed racists went Republican, and the vast majority of racial progressives went Democratic. Before 1964, many southern blacks were Republican (because of the legacy of the Dixiecrats). Afterward, they knew which party was hostile and which welcomed them &#8212; and they voted with their feet. The modern Republican party has so little support from black people because in the defining 1960s, the party chose to snub them. Black people, whose very existence in the New World was defined by generations of back-breaking toil in fields they didn&#8217;t own, making other people rich. Black people have never made political decisions based on which party would give them government welfare. We have voted for the candidates and parties who were willing to reciprocate by offering human dignity, respect and recognition. To suggest otherwise is to demean a people who have worked harder in this land, and received less opportunity as a result of that work, than any other. </p>
<p>Robert Steinback<br />
Deputy Editor, Hatewatch blog</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
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		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 22:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick Lancaster,
Okay, I am laughing because you got me on that one! I was being sarcastic and trying to push a button.

But, let&#039;s be real! It&#039;s not that the skin color controversy that afflicts the black community exclusively, it also affects people from India, Latin America. This skin color controversy still causes devastating affects in India, keeping the caste system somewhat alive. In Latin America, meaning specifically South and Central America, blacks are still suffering from discrimination (remember Bush went to Mexico and made the remark, &quot;oh, you have black people.&quot;)...But, also, let&#039;s look at who most likely created this problem, it wasn&#039;t the citizens of these countries. Just a couple of years ago, England did a story about women from India using skin-whitening creams that ended up causing 1st &amp; 2nd degree burns. 
For this reason, I hold high regards for the Puerto Ricans, there&#039;s no shame in their game-they don&#039;t try to think they&#039;re better than anyone. I&#039;ve had instances where some people from Mexico and Latin America thought I was from one of those countries, and when I told them no, they have made some very nasty/disrespectful comments to me - but, that&#039;s the problem, as I always write, you can&#039;t look at a person and determine where they are from, i.e. when Mariah Carey first came on the scene, the blacks and whites thought she was white, actress Jennifer Beals from the movie Flashdance we just thought &#039;what is she!&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Lancaster,<br />
Okay, I am laughing because you got me on that one! I was being sarcastic and trying to push a button.</p>
<p>But, let&#8217;s be real! It&#8217;s not that the skin color controversy that afflicts the black community exclusively, it also affects people from India, Latin America. This skin color controversy still causes devastating affects in India, keeping the caste system somewhat alive. In Latin America, meaning specifically South and Central America, blacks are still suffering from discrimination (remember Bush went to Mexico and made the remark, &#8220;oh, you have black people.&#8221;)&#8230;But, also, let&#8217;s look at who most likely created this problem, it wasn&#8217;t the citizens of these countries. Just a couple of years ago, England did a story about women from India using skin-whitening creams that ended up causing 1st &amp; 2nd degree burns.<br />
For this reason, I hold high regards for the Puerto Ricans, there&#8217;s no shame in their game-they don&#8217;t try to think they&#8217;re better than anyone. I&#8217;ve had instances where some people from Mexico and Latin America thought I was from one of those countries, and when I told them no, they have made some very nasty/disrespectful comments to me &#8211; but, that&#8217;s the problem, as I always write, you can&#8217;t look at a person and determine where they are from, i.e. when Mariah Carey first came on the scene, the blacks and whites thought she was white, actress Jennifer Beals from the movie Flashdance we just thought &#8216;what is she!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 21:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dick
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By definition the President cannot be a domestic enemy if elected by the majority of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286673</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 20:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the cask of whine, Dick.
&quot;
First, to the topic. It is easy to see from both from Potok’s article and some commentary why I am a racist. It doesn’t matter what I am, it is how my political opponents wish to define me that makes me a racist. My opposition to their political views and not my experiences of a lifelong interaction with the black community, including a 7 year marriage and a 4 year hitch in the military is my primary sin. My rational arguments can be dismissed because I am labeled a racist.&quot;

Dick, apparently it&#039;s not &quot;easy&quot; to see from the comments, because myself and others have pointed out precisely why you are labeled as a racist.  

Your arguments might have been somewhat rational until you clearly made a conscious decision to ignore every response to them and ramble on like this. 


&quot;But having been associated with the other race for so long I am privy to much of the dirty laundry. One of these loads is the light skin/dark skin controversy. You see, there is an inherent racism within the black community itself solely based on skin tone. This, as well as the very real and very recent history of oppression is one of the primary reasons we cannot advance past the name-calling stage and fix our problems. The first fix must come from within the black community itself.&quot;

Trying to air the &quot;dirty laundry&quot; of the black community? Totally not racist.  

Besides this is a distraction from the point you attempt to make here: many of the problems of the black community come from outside of that community, so no, the solution can&#039;t come from entire from the black community.  Since whites are still a majority ,control most of the wealth, and most of the power, whites need to be willing to see the many obvious examples of institutional racism and do something about it.  

&quot;There are those too in the black community that don’t want these problems fixed. They generate enormous amounts of income for race baiters like Jesse Jackson and the Street Clown.&quot;

Labeling civil rights leaders as race baiters. Totally not racist.

&quot; And yes, indeed it was the Republicans that freed the slaves and blacks swarmed to it during the post war years up until Wilson’s administration. That’s when the Democrats co-opted many blacks as well as many others with the welfare state.&quot;

Oh yeah them black folks just wanted them welfare checks right?  TOTALLY NOT RACIST.  While some welfare benefits were brought into existence by the New Deal, most of the benefits of the New Deal went to whites.  In fact even today more whites receive some form of welfare than blacks.  Studies have also shown that most people on welfare prior to the 1996 reform did not remain on welfare long(usually less than a year), and the states with the highest welfare benefits had the lowest welfare rolls, with recipients leaving the rolls sooner than in states with lower benefits.  The source for this is They Way We Never Were, by Stephanie Coontz.  Where&#039;s your sources? Limbaugh? Hannity? Boortz?  


Again, arguments like the one above ARE THE REASON PEOPLE CALL YOU RACIST.  In one paragraph you insinuate the following:

1. Black people were duped and co-opted by Democrats who offered them welfare(historically nonsensical claim).

2. Black people are lazy and will vote for whoever promises them welfare.

&quot; It was George Wallace D. AL who barred the door of the university to black students.&quot;

Hmm....what was the party affiliation of the president who sent federal troops to open that university?

Yes we all know Lincoln was a Republican.  But we also all know about Nixon and the &quot;Southern strategy&quot;, a plan to reach out to angry whites who felt betrayed by the Democratic party after the Dixiecrats were gone.  They specifically planned to use racial appeals, often-disguised, to reach out to those with latent racial prejudices. 

&quot;And speaking of the welfare state, a condition directly responsible for the destruction of the black family, Norway is called the Golden Cage by many of its citizens. It is true there is no visible poverty there.&quot;

Please show proof that welfare destroyed the black family.  All hitherto sociological research has not produced this conclusion.  

Who exactly calls Norway a Golden Cage?


&quot; But there is no freedom there either at least in the sense that older Americans understand. The 17% VAT tax combined with an almost 50% tax on income is a very real restriction on those who seek private medical treatment, want to send their kids to private schools or do any number of other things that stray from the perfect utopia laid out for them by the government.&quot;

First of all I would be inclined to call BS on some of this; but many Europeans pay much higher taxes and yet they do not constantly complain about taxes. Do you know why? Because they get their tax money back in the form of government sources they use.  

After social security, most of your federal tax money goes to the Pentagon to pay for things which will never benefit you in any way.  And yet you thought food stamps were the problem.


&quot;I do not oppose Obama because he is black. I oppose him because he is a domestic enemy I swore to defend my country against.&quot;

Please explain why he is a domestic enemy.

&quot; I did not oppose Jimmy Carter because he is white. I opposed him because he was an incompetent idiot which he continues to demonstrate to this day.&quot;

Well he did let himself get talked into supporting the Afghan mujahadeen, among other unsavory groups.  But the distinction is interesting.  Carter is just &quot;incompetent&quot;, but Obama is a &quot;domestic enemy&quot;.  Why the difference?

So, yet again I have given you more reasons why people call you a racist.  

I also notice you make a number of assertions which you do not back up with evidence, and you also repeat many racial &quot;memes&quot; about black people which in many cases are totally unfounded(e.g. welfare destroyed the black family).   Did you say things like this around your wife when you were married?  Is this the kind of thing her friends complained about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the cask of whine, Dick.<br />
&#8221;<br />
First, to the topic. It is easy to see from both from Potok’s article and some commentary why I am a racist. It doesn’t matter what I am, it is how my political opponents wish to define me that makes me a racist. My opposition to their political views and not my experiences of a lifelong interaction with the black community, including a 7 year marriage and a 4 year hitch in the military is my primary sin. My rational arguments can be dismissed because I am labeled a racist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dick, apparently it&#8217;s not &#8220;easy&#8221; to see from the comments, because myself and others have pointed out precisely why you are labeled as a racist.  </p>
<p>Your arguments might have been somewhat rational until you clearly made a conscious decision to ignore every response to them and ramble on like this. </p>
<p>&#8220;But having been associated with the other race for so long I am privy to much of the dirty laundry. One of these loads is the light skin/dark skin controversy. You see, there is an inherent racism within the black community itself solely based on skin tone. This, as well as the very real and very recent history of oppression is one of the primary reasons we cannot advance past the name-calling stage and fix our problems. The first fix must come from within the black community itself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trying to air the &#8220;dirty laundry&#8221; of the black community? Totally not racist.  </p>
<p>Besides this is a distraction from the point you attempt to make here: many of the problems of the black community come from outside of that community, so no, the solution can&#8217;t come from entire from the black community.  Since whites are still a majority ,control most of the wealth, and most of the power, whites need to be willing to see the many obvious examples of institutional racism and do something about it.  </p>
<p>&#8220;There are those too in the black community that don’t want these problems fixed. They generate enormous amounts of income for race baiters like Jesse Jackson and the Street Clown.&#8221;</p>
<p>Labeling civil rights leaders as race baiters. Totally not racist.</p>
<p>&#8221; And yes, indeed it was the Republicans that freed the slaves and blacks swarmed to it during the post war years up until Wilson’s administration. That’s when the Democrats co-opted many blacks as well as many others with the welfare state.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh yeah them black folks just wanted them welfare checks right?  TOTALLY NOT RACIST.  While some welfare benefits were brought into existence by the New Deal, most of the benefits of the New Deal went to whites.  In fact even today more whites receive some form of welfare than blacks.  Studies have also shown that most people on welfare prior to the 1996 reform did not remain on welfare long(usually less than a year), and the states with the highest welfare benefits had the lowest welfare rolls, with recipients leaving the rolls sooner than in states with lower benefits.  The source for this is They Way We Never Were, by Stephanie Coontz.  Where&#8217;s your sources? Limbaugh? Hannity? Boortz?  </p>
<p>Again, arguments like the one above ARE THE REASON PEOPLE CALL YOU RACIST.  In one paragraph you insinuate the following:</p>
<p>1. Black people were duped and co-opted by Democrats who offered them welfare(historically nonsensical claim).</p>
<p>2. Black people are lazy and will vote for whoever promises them welfare.</p>
<p>&#8221; It was George Wallace D. AL who barred the door of the university to black students.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;.what was the party affiliation of the president who sent federal troops to open that university?</p>
<p>Yes we all know Lincoln was a Republican.  But we also all know about Nixon and the &#8220;Southern strategy&#8221;, a plan to reach out to angry whites who felt betrayed by the Democratic party after the Dixiecrats were gone.  They specifically planned to use racial appeals, often-disguised, to reach out to those with latent racial prejudices. </p>
<p>&#8220;And speaking of the welfare state, a condition directly responsible for the destruction of the black family, Norway is called the Golden Cage by many of its citizens. It is true there is no visible poverty there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please show proof that welfare destroyed the black family.  All hitherto sociological research has not produced this conclusion.  </p>
<p>Who exactly calls Norway a Golden Cage?</p>
<p>&#8221; But there is no freedom there either at least in the sense that older Americans understand. The 17% VAT tax combined with an almost 50% tax on income is a very real restriction on those who seek private medical treatment, want to send their kids to private schools or do any number of other things that stray from the perfect utopia laid out for them by the government.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all I would be inclined to call BS on some of this; but many Europeans pay much higher taxes and yet they do not constantly complain about taxes. Do you know why? Because they get their tax money back in the form of government sources they use.  </p>
<p>After social security, most of your federal tax money goes to the Pentagon to pay for things which will never benefit you in any way.  And yet you thought food stamps were the problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not oppose Obama because he is black. I oppose him because he is a domestic enemy I swore to defend my country against.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please explain why he is a domestic enemy.</p>
<p>&#8221; I did not oppose Jimmy Carter because he is white. I opposed him because he was an incompetent idiot which he continues to demonstrate to this day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well he did let himself get talked into supporting the Afghan mujahadeen, among other unsavory groups.  But the distinction is interesting.  Carter is just &#8220;incompetent&#8221;, but Obama is a &#8220;domestic enemy&#8221;.  Why the difference?</p>
<p>So, yet again I have given you more reasons why people call you a racist.  </p>
<p>I also notice you make a number of assertions which you do not back up with evidence, and you also repeat many racial &#8220;memes&#8221; about black people which in many cases are totally unfounded(e.g. welfare destroyed the black family).   Did you say things like this around your wife when you were married?  Is this the kind of thing her friends complained about?</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Lancaster</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286662</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 19:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, to the topic. It is easy to see from both from Potok&#039;s article and some commentary why I am a racist. It doesn&#039;t matter what I am, it is how my political opponents wish to define me that makes me a racist. My opposition to their political views and not my experiences of a lifelong interaction with the black community, including a 7 year marriage and a 4 year hitch in the military is my primary sin. My rational arguments can be dismissed because I am labeled a racist.
But having been associated with the other race for so long I am privy to much of the dirty laundry. One of these loads is the light skin/dark skin controversy. You see, there is an inherent racism within the black community itself solely based on skin tone. This, as well as the very real and very recent history of oppression is one of the primary reasons we cannot advance past the name-calling stage and fix our problems. The first fix must come from within the black community itself.
There are those too in the black community that don’t want these problems fixed. They generate enormous amounts of income for race baiters like Jesse Jackson and the Street Clown. And yes, indeed it was the Republicans that freed the slaves and blacks swarmed to it during the post war years up until Wilson’s administration. That’s when the Democrats co-opted many blacks as well as many others with the welfare state. It was George Wallace D. AL who barred the door of the university to black students. 
And speaking of the welfare state, a condition directly responsible for the destruction of the black family, Norway is called the Golden Cage by many of its citizens. It is true there is no visible poverty there. But there is no freedom there either at least in the sense that older Americans understand. The 17% VAT tax combined with an almost 50% tax on income is a very real restriction on those who seek private medical treatment, want to send their kids to private schools or do any number of other things that stray from the perfect utopia laid out for them by the government.
I do not oppose Obama because he is black. I oppose him because he is a domestic enemy I swore to defend my country against. I did not oppose Jimmy Carter because he is white. I opposed him because he was an incompetent idiot which he continues to demonstrate to this day.
And to cap this entry, I’d like to say that I do not believe my friend Skinnyminnie means anything she posted in her last commentary. I believe she was letting off steam. And the reason I believe that is because I’ve always read her posts to understand her position, not to search for ammo to shoot down her arguments. And her positions, in keeping with her experiences as posted here, are quite reasonable even though I hardly agree with most of them. I believe we could actually become good friends if we ever met and put our politics aside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, to the topic. It is easy to see from both from Potok&#8217;s article and some commentary why I am a racist. It doesn&#8217;t matter what I am, it is how my political opponents wish to define me that makes me a racist. My opposition to their political views and not my experiences of a lifelong interaction with the black community, including a 7 year marriage and a 4 year hitch in the military is my primary sin. My rational arguments can be dismissed because I am labeled a racist.<br />
But having been associated with the other race for so long I am privy to much of the dirty laundry. One of these loads is the light skin/dark skin controversy. You see, there is an inherent racism within the black community itself solely based on skin tone. This, as well as the very real and very recent history of oppression is one of the primary reasons we cannot advance past the name-calling stage and fix our problems. The first fix must come from within the black community itself.<br />
There are those too in the black community that don’t want these problems fixed. They generate enormous amounts of income for race baiters like Jesse Jackson and the Street Clown. And yes, indeed it was the Republicans that freed the slaves and blacks swarmed to it during the post war years up until Wilson’s administration. That’s when the Democrats co-opted many blacks as well as many others with the welfare state. It was George Wallace D. AL who barred the door of the university to black students.<br />
And speaking of the welfare state, a condition directly responsible for the destruction of the black family, Norway is called the Golden Cage by many of its citizens. It is true there is no visible poverty there. But there is no freedom there either at least in the sense that older Americans understand. The 17% VAT tax combined with an almost 50% tax on income is a very real restriction on those who seek private medical treatment, want to send their kids to private schools or do any number of other things that stray from the perfect utopia laid out for them by the government.<br />
I do not oppose Obama because he is black. I oppose him because he is a domestic enemy I swore to defend my country against. I did not oppose Jimmy Carter because he is white. I opposed him because he was an incompetent idiot which he continues to demonstrate to this day.<br />
And to cap this entry, I’d like to say that I do not believe my friend Skinnyminnie means anything she posted in her last commentary. I believe she was letting off steam. And the reason I believe that is because I’ve always read her posts to understand her position, not to search for ammo to shoot down her arguments. And her positions, in keeping with her experiences as posted here, are quite reasonable even though I hardly agree with most of them. I believe we could actually become good friends if we ever met and put our politics aside.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286538</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 12:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lou, when Americans go to Mexico, like in most countries, they receive a 90-minute visa at passport control, usually the stamp itself counts.  The converse is not true.  Because of this system, many American citizens work illegally in a number of countries around the world(including Mexico), simply doing &quot;visa runs&quot; every three months(crossing and re-crossing a border).  Most countries don&#039;t raise a fuss about it because the Americans are usually doing some kind of job which is useful to that society, such as teaching.  

If it were easier to obtain temporary work visas in the US, people wouldn&#039;t be jumping the border, and human traffickers would be at a loss.  But for some reason, the anti-immigration crowd, which says it has no problem with legal immigrants, isn&#039;t interested in this solution.  I wonder why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, when Americans go to Mexico, like in most countries, they receive a 90-minute visa at passport control, usually the stamp itself counts.  The converse is not true.  Because of this system, many American citizens work illegally in a number of countries around the world(including Mexico), simply doing &#8220;visa runs&#8221; every three months(crossing and re-crossing a border).  Most countries don&#8217;t raise a fuss about it because the Americans are usually doing some kind of job which is useful to that society, such as teaching.  </p>
<p>If it were easier to obtain temporary work visas in the US, people wouldn&#8217;t be jumping the border, and human traffickers would be at a loss.  But for some reason, the anti-immigration crowd, which says it has no problem with legal immigrants, isn&#8217;t interested in this solution.  I wonder why.</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyminny</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286370</link>
		<dc:creator>skinnyminny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 00:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buz,
I&#039;m laughing so hard at your comment, &#039;republicans freed blacks.&#039; Why gee, isn&#039;t that the good ol&#039; past, now the blacks are chimps, subhuman, should be deported...as a black woman, I can surely say I don&#039;t feel any love or respect coming from the republican party of today! In fact, I know the republicans want to put blacks back into bondage, slavery, prison and whatever they can to hurt or kill us. As a black woman, I am asking you to prove me wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buz,<br />
I&#8217;m laughing so hard at your comment, &#8216;republicans freed blacks.&#8217; Why gee, isn&#8217;t that the good ol&#8217; past, now the blacks are chimps, subhuman, should be deported&#8230;as a black woman, I can surely say I don&#8217;t feel any love or respect coming from the republican party of today! In fact, I know the republicans want to put blacks back into bondage, slavery, prison and whatever they can to hurt or kill us. As a black woman, I am asking you to prove me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Stouch</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286363</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Stouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 00:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well it didnt take long Ruslan.  Everything one wants to know about the Norwegian welfare state right here:

http://norwegiansociety.blogspot.com/2008/01/norwegian-welfare-state-after-world-war.html.

For those that are interested.  Yes a little off topic, but interesting nonetheless.

Oh, and immigrants comprise 11.4% of Norwegian society, with a net in migration of around 1% per year.  I do seem to recall that they are having serious difficulties in assimilating a certain ethnic group - violent crime, you see - but that is another conversation.  I can provide references though, indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well it didnt take long Ruslan.  Everything one wants to know about the Norwegian welfare state right here:</p>
<p><a href="http://norwegiansociety.blogspot.com/2008/01/norwegian-welfare-state-after-world-war.html" rel="nofollow">http://norwegiansociety.blogsp.....d-war.html</a>.</p>
<p>For those that are interested.  Yes a little off topic, but interesting nonetheless.</p>
<p>Oh, and immigrants comprise 11.4% of Norwegian society, with a net in migration of around 1% per year.  I do seem to recall that they are having serious difficulties in assimilating a certain ethnic group &#8211; violent crime, you see &#8211; but that is another conversation.  I can provide references though, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Stouch</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/04/28/lets-call-the-birthers-what-they-are/comment-page-3/#comment-286357</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Stouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 23:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty nice retort Ruslan, and without sarcasm this time - I am impressed.  I will check it out.  And I will add this - I recall reading where many countries have more restrictive immigration policies than do we.  

I specifically remember Mexico, who of course is suing the State of Arizona.  What cheek.  Anyways, illegals were arrested, jailed, and deported.  Period, no questions asked.  Their illegals being their South American neighbors.  I do believe they recently ammended this process, but still.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty nice retort Ruslan, and without sarcasm this time &#8211; I am impressed.  I will check it out.  And I will add this &#8211; I recall reading where many countries have more restrictive immigration policies than do we.  </p>
<p>I specifically remember Mexico, who of course is suing the State of Arizona.  What cheek.  Anyways, illegals were arrested, jailed, and deported.  Period, no questions asked.  Their illegals being their South American neighbors.  I do believe they recently ammended this process, but still.</p>
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