Comments on: Did Murdered Neo-Nazi Jeff Hall Abuse His Son?

By: Paulie

Paulie — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:42:23 +0000

You are out of work, just like 15% of the population, but somehow you are special. Well it started with grandma and grandpa. Grandma seems like a real winner. Where was she in all of this? So it was all the kid’s fault. He was born a bad seed? Nobody (um grandma and grandpa) sought help for this child? The house is filthy and rank. Grandma couldn’t see her grandchildren were being abuse. Here’s a tip – a filthy house is sometimes the first clue that the children are being neglected also. Notice how I keep mentioning grandma. My mother believed that grandma’s had an especial responsibility toward their grandchildren – given their unique position and experience. The whole family was dysfunctional and for pop to chose Nazism in reaction to unemployment and was violent toward his own family says a lot about *his* background and upbringing. Needless to say, this child was taught that violence was the reaction and action in response to problems. So he did what he was taught. The only tragedy about this death was that the child had to experience doing this. Hopefully, the justice system will finally step in because that family is in deep, deep denial and help this child.

By: Ronald M Scanlon

Ronald M Scanlon — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:21:08 +0000

Let the child go free. Remove him from the environment in which he was growing. Place him with a family that can help him overcome the abuse and misery inflicted by many people in his life. Ignore the sensationalist press.

By: Monica

Monica — Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:00:22 +0000

Sorry I ment to say in Canada and Scandinavia he would be rehabilitated back into Society not incarcerated.

By: Monica

Monica — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:57:19 +0000

I agree with April and Rebecca. The Nazis killed 6 million jews, they do promote abuse and murder. If a child is raised in this family, then they would lack proper nurturing. I raise my children by loving them and teaching my sons to love society! This boy was violent because is father promoted the violence of Nazis and children are the most impressionable. His son probably doesn’t even understand himself.
I hope his son is rehabilitated not incarcerated like he would be in Canada and Scandinavia. The true responsibilty resided with his step mother. As a mom I personally don’t want a gun in my home. This way I protect my boys.

By: Rebecca Olesen

Rebecca Olesen — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:57:41 +0000

My god, this is just sad and a total tragedy. So the kid kills the crappy dad, and now the ”beat down” wife is going to be ”charged” with all kinds of weapons offences, even though all that junk was obviously his, and nobody else was allowed to touch on threat of beating.

I swear, regardless of what is happening, law enforcement and courts just have to find somebody to blame, there must be blame for everything. Oh that guys dead? Let’s blame her now, for everything.

Can you imagine how screwed up the situation was for a 10 year old to KILL HIS own father? He obviously loves his stepmother very much.

Also, a 10 year old shouldn’t even be charged like this. I’m sorry it has come down to this, but this is so rare, and like that 8 year old boy in Texas who killed his father, these kids need some REAL HELP, not jail or juvie which will totally destroy any last shred of humanity they have left inside of them.

Studies prove that young kids who kill CAN be rehabilitated very successfully. They can barely understand the reality of what they have done. But for that to happen, they need to be somewhere it CAN happen.

I am praying for this kid, his siblings, and his stepmom. Real mom sounds like another loser. Poor kid.

By: jems

jems — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:47:30 +0000

It appears this kid since a very young age was very violent to his classmates and others and was a big disciplinary problem and caused much grief for his caretakers. 60 minutes did a feature on this last night and relatives suggested that they believed no matter what that he likely would have killed his father at an older age. Seemed to suggest that the kid was a natural sociopath and his treatment had less to do with his behavior than people are making out. Pretty tragic story in any case.

By: Rebecca

Rebecca — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:22:41 +0000

I say not guilty by reason of SANITY. Grown women can barely look for shelters and leave an abusive person and you expect children without a fully developed thinking ability..at the concrete thinking ability to figure out how to find a shelter much less reach out. get real…he taught him guns were the answer and he answered in kind. It is just wrong that abusers and extremist are here. Not saying that i think they should be shot..it is just sad that people come to become that way. I would wish that everyone would care about people, at least their family, but faced with a monster and taught as this child was, i’m sure he felt his options were limited. It is sad what happened to the child, I hope he does not have to spend his life in jail because of trying to get out of jail. But, it keeps going back…why was Jeff the way his was and when do people say, I had a bad life, but I can change me and go forward?

By: April Scheller

April Scheller — Thu, 26 May 2011 20:07:06 +0000

We need to allow children the right to enter domestic violence shelters on their own in these circumstances. Many adults traumatized as children were battered terribly by one parent while the other refused to leave. Sadly child protective services often fails to become involved, especially if the parent however terrible is considered to have some influence in the community. Though murder of a parent is never excused one cannot help but feel the court might examine self defense occasionally. Children coerced by parents are in no better a position than are slaves themselves. They are also physically weaker and smaller, and often isolated. Many do not survive to be adults at all. We need to allow persons more autonomy in such circumstances. Had a child ever tried to escape such a home, he would be caught on tape, and would fear return as a runaway. These kids lived in bondage. The Klan still has its slaves, pure-white or otherwise.

By: Ben F

Ben F — Mon, 23 May 2011 22:09:58 +0000

What a terrible argument from “Jim Smith”. Just further proof of the requirements for white nationalist thought: lack of critical thinking, inability to argue properly, general inability to compose a coherent thought.

By: Ruslan Amirkhanov

Ruslan Amirkhanov — Mon, 23 May 2011 09:10:27 +0000

“Jews have been expelled from every country they have ever gotten a foothold in. Every single one. There are no exceptions.”

They’ve also been let back in, every single one, there are no exceptions.

By: Sam Molloy

Sam Molloy — Mon, 23 May 2011 01:48:05 +0000

Jim Smith, I don’t, for one. The Jewish faith is the basis for Christianity.

By: Jim Smith

Jim Smith — Sun, 22 May 2011 04:35:01 +0000

It’s not just neo-Nazis who despise Jews. Everyone hates Jews. Everyone in all of world history has always hated Jews. Jews have been expelled from every country they have ever gotten a foothold in. Every single one. There are no exceptions.

So go ahead and keep labeling people “neo-Nazis” until you realize that other than Jews, only “neo-Nazis” exist.

By: Reynardine

Reynardine — Sat, 21 May 2011 22:16:09 +0000

It’s pretty common that families whose pathologies include extreme authoritarianism exhibit both bigotry and hierarchical abuse. It’s also pretty common that in a divorce, the prime abuser, often a glib sociopath who has driven the other parent into decompensation, gets the kid. If it seldom ends as publicly as this, it nonetheless ends badly. Courts and guardian programs who both knew and cared about these factors could prevent many of these tragedies. They invariably fall for those who put on the best show, and that is the one who has the most money, the most clout, and the least conscience.

By: kate

kate — Sat, 21 May 2011 14:01:11 +0000

The Times resource was either naively sucked in by this family or had some sympathies toward their movement to have overlooked what must have been some obvious signs of serious dysfunction in that family.

Another zero score for the amateurish antics of the press these days.

By: James Hutchings

James Hutchings — Fri, 20 May 2011 18:33:44 +0000

But…but how can this be? The NSM said he was a loving father and a good family man.

By: Sam Molloy

Sam Molloy — Fri, 20 May 2011 13:43:46 +0000

If you look up Dysfunctional Family in the dictionary there’s a picture of this household.