<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
	xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: NumbersUSA Denies Bigotry but Promotes Holocaust Denier</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/</link>
	<description>Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:12:45 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Deep Ecology</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-293839</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Ecology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 16:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-293839</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I am repeating a previous post that I hope will not become tiresome, but believe for new readers it will help in the debate about immigration, population stabilization/reduction, and the environment.

&quot;The debate over immigration, growth and the enviroment has become so clouded with misinformation and hidden agenda’s that rational discourse and objective, scientific analysis has become impossible. If anyone believes that our current Globalist/Corporate-capitalist growth model can be sustained indefinately within the constraints of a finite resource base, just doesn’t get the math. Yes, nativist and xenophobes who could really care less about the natural world have cynically used the population argument to further their own agenda, but while being disingenuous about their real motives, they can be right about the issue.&quot;

The concern here is that by constantly linking these individuals to an environmental movement goal that far predated America&#039;s current debate about immigration, links in the mind of the many that population stabilization/reduction is another code word for racism and xenophobic hatred.  For those of us in the Deep Ecology movement, an international and multiethnic group of concerned advocates for a new ecological ethic, this is a tremendous concern.  Perception can quickly become reality in the minds of many, and shut off debate and engagement in the general population over the critical issue of a dwindling natural world and exploding human exploitation of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am repeating a previous post that I hope will not become tiresome, but believe for new readers it will help in the debate about immigration, population stabilization/reduction, and the environment.</p>
<p>&#8220;The debate over immigration, growth and the enviroment has become so clouded with misinformation and hidden agenda’s that rational discourse and objective, scientific analysis has become impossible. If anyone believes that our current Globalist/Corporate-capitalist growth model can be sustained indefinately within the constraints of a finite resource base, just doesn’t get the math. Yes, nativist and xenophobes who could really care less about the natural world have cynically used the population argument to further their own agenda, but while being disingenuous about their real motives, they can be right about the issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>The concern here is that by constantly linking these individuals to an environmental movement goal that far predated America&#8217;s current debate about immigration, links in the mind of the many that population stabilization/reduction is another code word for racism and xenophobic hatred.  For those of us in the Deep Ecology movement, an international and multiethnic group of concerned advocates for a new ecological ethic, this is a tremendous concern.  Perception can quickly become reality in the minds of many, and shut off debate and engagement in the general population over the critical issue of a dwindling natural world and exploding human exploitation of it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-293822</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 14:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-293822</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Rizoli, if this is really you and not some troll,

I won&#039;t get into a &quot;debate&quot; about the actuality of the Holocaust, thereby giving you any credence whatsoever, but my Dad&#039;s stories from Auschwitz-Birkenau (he has since passed) and his tattoo, and the lack of any extended family from Europe after the war, and the stories from his teen girlfriend who ended up in Australia, and the literally _hundreds_ of books, records from the Nazi&#039;s themselves (perhaps you ought to see the film &#039;Shoah&#039; by Claude Lanzmann), and other sources of information, including the Nuremberg trials and eyewitness reports from Allied soldiers, both American and Russian who liberated the concentration camps prove you to be nothing more than a base liar and coward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Rizoli, if this is really you and not some troll,</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t get into a &#8220;debate&#8221; about the actuality of the Holocaust, thereby giving you any credence whatsoever, but my Dad&#8217;s stories from Auschwitz-Birkenau (he has since passed) and his tattoo, and the lack of any extended family from Europe after the war, and the stories from his teen girlfriend who ended up in Australia, and the literally _hundreds_ of books, records from the Nazi&#8217;s themselves (perhaps you ought to see the film &#8216;Shoah&#8217; by Claude Lanzmann), and other sources of information, including the Nuremberg trials and eyewitness reports from Allied soldiers, both American and Russian who liberated the concentration camps prove you to be nothing more than a base liar and coward.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ann R. Zito</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-293767</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann R. Zito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 10:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-293767</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[If....

The process of eliminating Jewish People due to the    disease and sickness they would inflict on others was necessary as stated above .....why do we know that    the German people   gladly collected their belongings, including their teeth, and skin ............to make collectibles.?   And why was the wealth confiscated and sent to Austria and Switzerland for    safe keeping?   Why would the Austrians and Swiss people have accepted the     father load    knowing how contaminated it was with disease?

I work part time in an Antique Mall in Florida.  Tons of    Nazi   figurines dated 1938 and Nazi toys and Nazi  keepsakes are funneled   into our store from former German Nazi homes for resale. 

Are we receiving   Nazi &quot;collectibles&quot;  to prove that the holocaust   actually did happen?  Or are the old Nazi people dying off and their children find it a great market in  Florida to send large boxes of the     stuff   for resale .............to keep some dream alive?

How is it possible to    deny the holocaust   when so much    physical evidence including Nazi SS   keepsakes   are showing up in our Antique Stores on a weekly basis?  And selling   well.  

The History Channel documents the actual oral histories from those who worked for and harbored Nazi officials.  We have newspapers from the 1920s and   figurines celebrating Nazi efforts in 1938   which you can hold in your hands.    Do German people send us these items for    some sort of safe keeping?  Perhaps a warning or reminder of what happens when     NATIONALISM   becomes so cruel and marketed so completely that     the aggression against some scape goat group of people...... can happen to anyone?         Or do they just want them out of their homes.......so their friends and family will not know about the    sins of their fathers and mothers?   And they can make a profit at the same time ?  Or have they found kindred spirits in American business people who agree with the need to   get rid of people..............and marvel and buy these   trinkets of the holocaust history  and salute it&#039;s marketing process?   Is America becoming the Nazi heirloom museum?  Or their proof that what happened is   some natural  form of behavior and is acceptably happening all over again?  Probably throughout our nation?

  .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If&#8230;.</p>
<p>The process of eliminating Jewish People due to the    disease and sickness they would inflict on others was necessary as stated above &#8230;..why do we know that    the German people   gladly collected their belongings, including their teeth, and skin &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;to make collectibles.?   And why was the wealth confiscated and sent to Austria and Switzerland for    safe keeping?   Why would the Austrians and Swiss people have accepted the     father load    knowing how contaminated it was with disease?</p>
<p>I work part time in an Antique Mall in Florida.  Tons of    Nazi   figurines dated 1938 and Nazi toys and Nazi  keepsakes are funneled   into our store from former German Nazi homes for resale. </p>
<p>Are we receiving   Nazi &#8220;collectibles&#8221;  to prove that the holocaust   actually did happen?  Or are the old Nazi people dying off and their children find it a great market in  Florida to send large boxes of the     stuff   for resale &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.to keep some dream alive?</p>
<p>How is it possible to    deny the holocaust   when so much    physical evidence including Nazi SS   keepsakes   are showing up in our Antique Stores on a weekly basis?  And selling   well.  </p>
<p>The History Channel documents the actual oral histories from those who worked for and harbored Nazi officials.  We have newspapers from the 1920s and   figurines celebrating Nazi efforts in 1938   which you can hold in your hands.    Do German people send us these items for    some sort of safe keeping?  Perhaps a warning or reminder of what happens when     NATIONALISM   becomes so cruel and marketed so completely that     the aggression against some scape goat group of people&#8230;&#8230; can happen to anyone?         Or do they just want them out of their homes&#8230;&#8230;.so their friends and family will not know about the    sins of their fathers and mothers?   And they can make a profit at the same time ?  Or have they found kindred spirits in American business people who agree with the need to   get rid of people&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..and marvel and buy these   trinkets of the holocaust history  and salute it&#8217;s marketing process?   Is America becoming the Nazi heirloom museum?  Or their proof that what happened is   some natural  form of behavior and is acceptably happening all over again?  Probably throughout our nation?</p>
<p>  .</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: venomlash</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-293075</link>
		<dc:creator>venomlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 01:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-293075</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Holohoax?
You know that the creators of Star Trek never tried to pretend that the Holodeck was actually real, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holohoax?<br />
You know that the creators of Star Trek never tried to pretend that the Holodeck was actually real, right?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Madolynn Cronk</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-293058</link>
		<dc:creator>Madolynn Cronk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 00:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-293058</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Holocaust deniers???&quot;

How can one deny the Holocaust??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Holocaust deniers???&#8221;</p>
<p>How can one deny the Holocaust??</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jim Rizoli</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-292949</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Rizoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-292949</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I consider it a badge of honor to be mentioned on your website.
You should see what I have up exposing the Holohoax!  LOL


Jim Rizoli
]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider it a badge of honor to be mentioned on your website.<br />
You should see what I have up exposing the Holohoax!  LOL</p>
<p>Jim Rizoli</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: B.B.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-292924</link>
		<dc:creator>B.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 18:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-292924</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Yet Beck, who did not immediately respond to a request for comment, has also long been a close associate of Tanton and has spent nearly 20 years relentlessly attacking American immigration policies. He even edited Tanton’s book The Immigration Invasion, which is so raw in its nativism that Canadian authorities banned it as hate literature.&lt;/I&gt;

This reflects more negatively on Canada&#039;s authoritarian government than it does John Tanton or Roy Beck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yet Beck, who did not immediately respond to a request for comment, has also long been a close associate of Tanton and has spent nearly 20 years relentlessly attacking American immigration policies. He even edited Tanton’s book The Immigration Invasion, which is so raw in its nativism that Canadian authorities banned it as hate literature.</i></p>
<p>This reflects more negatively on Canada&#8217;s authoritarian government than it does John Tanton or Roy Beck.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ModerateMike</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-292902</link>
		<dc:creator>ModerateMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-292902</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[If Mr. Beck is sincere about wanting to rebuild his organization&#039;s image (not to mention moving the immigration debate away from hate mongering and toward reasoned debate), he ought to examine these groups more carefully before allowing his staff to post links to their websites. If someone gets involved with a group like CCFILE as a result of clicking a link on Mr. Beck&#039;s site, does it really matter whether or not the group has the endorsement of NumbersUSA? 

@Mr. Daleiden: Please fill us in on the ways in which the above article was ignorant or dishonest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mr. Beck is sincere about wanting to rebuild his organization&#8217;s image (not to mention moving the immigration debate away from hate mongering and toward reasoned debate), he ought to examine these groups more carefully before allowing his staff to post links to their websites. If someone gets involved with a group like CCFILE as a result of clicking a link on Mr. Beck&#8217;s site, does it really matter whether or not the group has the endorsement of NumbersUSA? </p>
<p>@Mr. Daleiden: Please fill us in on the ways in which the above article was ignorant or dishonest.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bwah?</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-292896</link>
		<dc:creator>Bwah?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 16:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-292896</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Guilt by association? The guy was the editor of a racist book by a racist individual that contained racist ideas. The &quot;editor&quot; if more than someone who checks for proper grammar and spelling; the editor guides the author and is usually a source of ideas for the content. It&#039;s not &quot;guilt by association&quot;; it&#039;s &quot;guilt by actual activity&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guilt by association? The guy was the editor of a racist book by a racist individual that contained racist ideas. The &#8220;editor&#8221; if more than someone who checks for proper grammar and spelling; the editor guides the author and is usually a source of ideas for the content. It&#8217;s not &#8220;guilt by association&#8221;; it&#8217;s &#8220;guilt by actual activity&#8221;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joe Daleiden</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-292858</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Daleiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 13:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-292858</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Once again the SPLC resorts to Joe McCarthy tacticsof &quot;guilt by association.  Actually SPLC does McCarthy one better by trying to indict Roy Beckby trying to indict Roy Beck for simply making a list of all organizations who oppose excessive immigration.  It is obvious that after winning its noble battle against the KKK, the SPLC needed a new cause  It found that there was a huge pot of gold from foundations and ultra-liberals by demonizing anyone opposed to the unprecedented wave of cheap immigrant labor. As a former long-time supporter of the SPLC it pains me to see the unprincipled attack on anyone who seeks to save our environment and protect American jobs and wages. I don’t know which is worse, the SPLC’s ignorance or dishonesty]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the SPLC resorts to Joe McCarthy tacticsof &#8220;guilt by association.  Actually SPLC does McCarthy one better by trying to indict Roy Beckby trying to indict Roy Beck for simply making a list of all organizations who oppose excessive immigration.  It is obvious that after winning its noble battle against the KKK, the SPLC needed a new cause  It found that there was a huge pot of gold from foundations and ultra-liberals by demonizing anyone opposed to the unprecedented wave of cheap immigrant labor. As a former long-time supporter of the SPLC it pains me to see the unprincipled attack on anyone who seeks to save our environment and protect American jobs and wages. I don’t know which is worse, the SPLC’s ignorance or dishonesty</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Monty Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/05/25/numbersusa-denies-bigotry-but-website-promotes-notorious-holocaust-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-292785</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 05:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=6621#comment-292785</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Considering the headline, are there Holocaust deniers whom you don&#039;t consider &quot;Notorious?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the headline, are there Holocaust deniers whom you don&#8217;t consider &#8220;Notorious?&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>