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Notice to Neo-Nazi Thugs: Best to Read Before Attacking

By Bill Morlin on July 8, 2011 - 3:26 pm, Posted in Anti-Black, Extremist Crime, Racist Skinheads


A neo-Nazi skinhead, with a body covered in racist tattoos, is in jail under $75,000 bond on felony malicious harassment charges because he didn’t read the back of a T-shirt worn by a man he’s accused of assaulting.

The skinhead, identified as Daren C. Abbey (right), 28, formerly of Sacramento, Calif., is accused of verbally confronting and then assaulting Marlon L. Baker, a 46-year-old African American, inside a Bayview, Idaho, bar on July 3, authorities said Friday.

Not wanting a confrontation, Baker left the bar and walked toward a marina on Lake Pend Oreille about 9 p.m. Sunday to watch an Independence Day “boat parade” on the waterfront, said Kootenai County Sheriff’s Major Ben Wolfinger. “He didn’t want trouble, so he walked away,’’ Wolfinger said.

But the racist skinhead followed Baker out of the bar, confronting him again with racial slurs before finally pushing him with witnesses watching, the sheriff’s official said.

Fearing for his own safety at that point, Baker took one punch, striking the skinhead in the face and knocking him to the ground, unconscious, Wolfinger said. There were several witnesses who saw the incident and verified Baker’s version of events, according to reports by deputies.

Deputies and an ambulance responded.

When he regained consciousness, Abbey was arrested and booked into jail on charges of battery, a misdemeanor, and felony malicious harassment. Baker was not injured and not charged, Wolfinger said.

The sheriff’s official described Abbey as a “white supremacist” who has numerous tattoos, including at least three Nazi swastikas, and other racist symbols on his arms, neck and torso.

Abbey was treated for a possible broken nose after being booked into the Kootenai County Jail, where he remained on Friday, pending trial.

As he was being led away in handcuffs, Abbey apparently was finally able to see the backside of the T-shirt Baker was wearing.  It said, “Spokane Boxing Club champion.”

Rick Welliver, the owner of Spokane Boxing, said to his knowledge Baker has never been a licensed, professional boxer, but may have had some informal boxing experience.

“I’m happy Marlon finally won a fight, but he’s not a boxer,” Welliver said when told about the incident.

  • Lynn

    As to “packs of Blacks attacking whites” http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/.....index.html

  • Eric

    As a middle aged, fat, white guy I see two major flaws with this story.

    I was not present to buy the Champ a beer after it was over and the event did not end up on youtube.

  • MrsCaptJack

    CHAOS ~ I was offended as well. It’s a shame that BggBlckBck is so juvenile that he still thinks it’s cool to resort to yet another type of hate speech.

    Lex ~ I tend to agree that the term African American is misleading, but for different reasons than yours. My father was born in South Africa and became an American citizen later on in life. He was, by cenus standards, a white man. Yet he is the only African American man I’ve ever known. And yes, I am more than old enough to remember when we started using the term African American. I asked all my friends what they thought about it, regardless of skin colour. Only one African American gal preferred the term African American, but that was because she could trace her family’s history directly back to Africa. I had no problem with her logic.

  • Scott

    Chaos, and others: Methinks you misconstrued BggBlkBck’s comment. Seemed like sarcasm to me, implying that many racists, who are also largely homophobic are actually closeted homosexuals.

    As far as wishing violence on racists, I do. If for no other reason than to show those cowards that their behavior will not be tolerated or left unpunished any longer. Watched the MSNBC special about the guy with all the racist tatoos getting them removed. Now THAT is real courage. His story also exposes as does T. Zaal’s the usual way these “people” behave, only attacking those they consider helpless or outnumbered, and then _running away_.

  • Bubs

    And we all call ourselves American… Or do we!

  • Todd

    Too funny. Your story made me laugh at the end of a crappy day.

  • K. Quentin

    @led Indeed! nuff said.

  • Robert McLernon

    That’s funny. I would have liked to have seen that. I wish I had been there.

  • Dennis

    Hooray! The Skinheead got what was coming to him!

  • Mitch Beales

    RichmondDave I’m sure you’re opposed to violence. I’m positive you’re opposed to concealed carry because that might have resulted in a death in this case. You and the other racists on this thread ought to go back to Stormfront if all you can do is post made up statistics without references and whining complaints about “violent” comments. I’ll take violent comments any day over being harassed and physically assaulted by a racist skinhead.

  • RichmondDave

    Interesting how all of you anti-hate posters are posting such violent, hate-filled comments. You must believe that one form of hate is better than another. Grow-up, your comments make you sound like Internet-couraged morons.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    It was fun watching the racists scream and rant.. “ITZ NOT TRUE…WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!! HERE ARE SOME RIDICULOUSLY BIASED CRIME STATISTICS FROM A STICKY THREAD ON STORMFRONT….sniff…sniff”

  • peter

    that will teach that piece of crap to go around attacking people he dint know. piece of crap needs to go to Germany and pretend to be Nazi there so he can die.

  • Dave

    sorry for the poor grammar (broken L arm)..

    I have to say it is frustrating that many people automatically associate skinheads with these bigoted morons, I am a skinhead belonging to a movement called S.H.A.R.P (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S....._Prejudice)

    I know its our own fault for not being as loud as these jerks, but remember, we’re there with you and will fight to the death to assemble mankind as the family it sould be!

  • skinnyminny

    I’m guessing tman decided this was not the place for him for his racist rants. I also take it that he don’t know about the late chimp name Travis and his late owner Sandy Herold, otherwise he wouldn’t be so quick to say things that seem controversial.

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  • Linnea

    I agree, Ruslan! These idiots need to go back to 2nd grade to learn reading comprehension.

  • OneForTheOldGuy

    And… 46 yr old versus a punk 28 yr old! (Isn’t 28 a bit old to still be a punk? I suppose not) Anyway… nice to see a mature guy school a young guy that needed a spanking. Bravo, Mr. Baker.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    Man this is hilarious. These people are constantly running their mouths about whites have higher IQs and how superior they are to the rest of us(including us whites who dare disagree with the scientific ‘truth’ of Dr. William Pierce), and yet they CAN’T EVEN READ.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    @Anon

    There’s a police report with several witness statements. So I think that constitutes “any proof”.

    By the way, did you know that 95% of crime is intra-racial? So if you were trying to avoid being victimized by avoiding blacks, you’re probably going to end up dead or injured anyway(especially since you probably let your guard down around whites).

    See what happens when you keep quoting the same old Jared Taylor claims, which have a notorious selection bias?

  • Anomalous

    “by the way, did any you know that the majority of interracial crimes are commuted by blacks against whites? This is according to FBI crime statistics and self reported surveys.”

    Did you know that the Dunning-Kruger Effect is where someone is so incompetent in an area (for example: statistics) that their incompetence robs them of the ability to even remotely grasp how out of their depth they are?

  • Unamused

    Not only that, but more black violent crime is committed against whites than against any other race.

    Fascinating stuff. Too bad the SPLC is only interested in fabricating fake hate crimes to further an anti-white agenda, not prosecuting real ones.

  • Linnea

    Hey Anon,

    Um, did you see the part where a sheriff’s official was quoted? Did you even read the whole story? And I’d like to see your “FBI crime statistics.” “Self reported surveys”? You do realize those may not exactly be accurate, right? As in, people can make s*** up?

    SPLC is more reliable than a lot of sources… they actually spend time *researching* this stuff. Which I doubt you do.

  • Anon

    Any proof of this story being real? I don’t exactly trust the SPLC.

    by the way, did any you know that the majority of interracial crimes are commuted by blacks against whites? This is according to FBI crime statistics and self reported surveys.

  • skinnyminny

    tman,
    I thought about this, and came to the conclusion of this, why bother getting into a big thing with you. I’m used to reading about people like you. Meaning, people that have so much hatred in their hearts for so long, they don’t know how to love. I think I know your story. A childhood of abuse, dysfunctional family, a child whose father and/or mother that never held him and told him he is loved. The child that gave up on thinking he is worthy of being loved because he didn’t know how to pick the right people in his teen and adult life to receive love. A child that was angry at the world because he didn’t otherwise know how to tell people his pain, nor did he know how to seek the help he needed to ease his pain. I’m sure this is just part of the story, but, the path you’re on, it will eventually all come out in the news of your entire background, because the attorney trying to get you off will tell us everything you don’t want to talk about now.

  • David (make me Puke) Dake

    Ah yes…the Hezbollah Wing of the Tea-Party strikes again.

  • A.D.M.

    Oh, and thugs come in all colors and classes. There are black thugs, white thugs, Hispanic thugs, Asian thugs, blue collar thugs, white collar thugs, and so on.

    Now, for mistakes: First paragraph – “Your bulls–t myth of superiority?” Fourth paragraph – “If you look at the archives…”

  • YHBT

    Re: tman

    obvious troll is obvious.

  • A.D.M.

    “Typical liberal “Jew infested” media bias. You don’t see the SPLC or the ADL, or the ADLU covering the new phenomenon by the blacks monkeys that go around targeting innocent white people and beating them senseless for no reason at all. No one peep for CNN, FOX CNBC…nada,,nothing. If this situation were reversed they would have jumped on this story like a black man white lady’s purse. I, along with millions of other American’s, are sick and tired of the liberal bias in the News. Jews control the media and they hate white people. So they ignore any stories where the victims are white and the perpetrators are black. It’s so obvious its not even funny. And this is also probably a bogus story and more than likely this guy was attacked by black thugs and then they happened to find out he was a white Supremest. Wake up white people. The enemy is Zionists and black thugs.” – tman

    Hey, stupid, do you have any proof this story is bogus? Are you saying the white witnesses were wrong? If you’re going to say that, back it up with proof, otherwise it’s hearsay. And why do you think it’s impossible for one black man to knock out a white man? Your bulls–t myth of superiority? Ever heard of Jack Johnson? He knocked out a lot of white boxers. You white supremacists are funny.

    I am glad you exposed yourself for the racist piece of sh-t you are for your “black monkeys” comment. As for liberal bias in the news, isn’t Fox News supposedly number one in cable news? They’re certainly not liberal. But then again, they’re not fair and balanced, either. I also have to LOL at your “Jew infested” media comment. So typical. Just know that people of your ilk are a dying breed.

    “Of the 7 people shot and killed by Rodrick Schonte Datzler this week, 6 were white. Does this make him guilty of a hate crime?” – Ray

    The man was mentally ill and was in trouble with the law most of his life. Do you have evidence of the man being motivated by hate? The cops did not find a motivation of hate. The man was just crazy and deranged. You know, just because the perpetrator(s) and the victim(s) are of different backgrounds does not mean hate is the motivation of the perpetrator(s). But then again, since color is the only thing you see, you’ll think any crime against a white person by a non-white person or vice versa is motivated by hate without gathering facts and evidence first. You would not make a good detective.

    “Why is Hatewatch not covering the numerous stories of packs of black youths attacking white people?” – Naughtius Maximus

    Good question. For instance, why hasn’t Hatewatch covered (and given the proper kudos to) Tom “the Epic Beard Man” Bruso? – Chlodevech

    I see Naughtius Maximus is a fan of Matt Drudge. If look at the archives here, there have been stories of non-whites committing bias crimes. It’s called research. Do some before you run your ignorant mouth. But SPLC doesn’t fan the flames of hate by reporting those stories in a way that says “x group must be eliminated for this”, unlike Drudge and his ilk.

    Chlodevech, the black man was being an a$$ and deserved to get hit. It wasn’t because of the other guy’s background. Do you have proof it was because “Epic Beard Man” is white? If you don’t, don’t commit hearsay.

    If any more David Duke-wannabes want answers to their questions, I’m all ears.

  • WhyMeLord

    An old DI once told me that in a street/bar fight there were three options.

    Fight like hell, run like hell or look like hell.

    Opps.

    As for me I won my last fight by three blocks.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    To add to that, a hate crime is based on the motive of the crime, not the status of th victim. So if some guy attacks a straight man who he thinks is gay, he can still get hit with a hate crime sentence enhancement.

  • Lex

    I dont use the term african american because i thing it’s a stupid term because how can you be a africian american,you are just an American, you dont say European American,

    Would anybody call a white person from South africa(Afrikaans) who has immigrated to usa and gotten a usa citenship a “african american”.

    Now let me explain to you racists what is a hate crime and what is not.

    A white guy walks in a bar buys himself a beer, a black guy bumps into him and the white guy spills his beer over him self, the white guy tells the black guy he owes him a beer, the black guy says no it was accident im not goona buy you a new beer and both parties get into a heated argument over that and it escalates turns into a typical drunken bar fight.

    That is not Not a hate crime, just your run of the mill bar brawl where it was just a coincidence the parties involved were white and black.

    Here is a hypothetical story of a hate crime.

    A white guy named Jack walks into a bar, buys himself a beer,notices a black person named John there and thinks about beating him up because John is black

    A few minutes later John goes outside to have a smoke Jack follows John outside, Jack starts shouting racial epihets at John then and punches John in the face causing him to fall in the ground unconscious.
    Jack then spits in the face of John and say’s go back to africa you f****** n***** and then shouts white power

    Thats a hate crime

  • Lex

    Good question. For instance, why hasn’t Hatewatch covered (and given the proper kudos to) Tom “the Epic Beard Man” Bruso?

    THat was not for racist reasons, the black man was being a total jerk and totally deserved a punch in the face .

    Nnice job tman showing everybody how blatant racist you are by calling black people monkeys

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    “of the 7 people shot and killed by Rodrick Schonte Datzler this week 6 were White does this make Him Guilty of a hate crime?”

    Was his crime motivated by hatred of white people?

    ““Why is not Hatewatch covering the numerous stories of packs of Black “youths” attacking White people?””

    You do realize that 95% of violent crime is intra-racial, right? So while you’re scared stiff of “packs of black youths”, you’re far more likely to get shot by some pissed off white guy that you cut off in traffic.

  • Chlodevech

    “Why is not Hatewatch covering the numerous stories of packs of Black “youths” attacking White people?”

    Good question. For instance, why hasn’t Hatewatch covered (and given the proper kudos to) Tom “the Epic Beard Man” Bruso?

  • T. Zaal

    As A former racist skinhead, I believe it is important for others to realize, “especially young people,” that despite how big and bad one believes his or herself to be, and there is always someone “bigger and or tougher.” Most bullies probably won’t admit it when
    they‘ve been beat. But when it happens in public or makes the headlines, there is simply no denying it.
    Back when I still harassed people to feel better about myself, I messed with the wrong person on several occasions. One incident occurred late at night in Hollywood California, where I was kicked out of the house for being a drunken fool. I was on my way to the Liquor store to get more beer as it was close to 2:00 am when most clubs, bars, and stores either close or stop selling alcohol.
    Whilst stumbling down Santa Monica Blvd. I noticed a man minding his own business who I “assumed” was gay. Being the friendly drunk I often become after throwing a few down my neck, I shook my head in disgust and called him an “F*****g F****t” as he walked past.
    The next thing I remember was a kick to the head, and me-Big Bad Skinhead- laying in the gutter with my feet in the air. As I struggled to get to my feet I felt a THWACK to the face, and he chuckling to himself as he walked off into the night. I was left feeling a bit humbled and humiliated. It’s a good thing there were no witnesses. I will never live it down now that the cat is out of the bag. But it is the truth. So what’s the lesson here isn’t it obvious? I’ll leave that up your interpretation.
    TZ

  • Naughtius Maximus

    Why is not Hatewatch covering the numerous stories of packs of Black “youths” attacking White people?

  • http://artistdogboy.blogspot.com/ artistdogboy

    Instant Karma, this hater should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

  • deb

    For what it’s worth CHAOS, I found it in poor taste too. Not to mention a little ironic that this person is crowing over the whole thing. Would they think it was equally hilarious if it was a gay man who cold-cocked a homophobe?

  • Thomas

    BggBlckBck- Well, I can’t see how you’re better than any racist skinhead, being so racist against LGBTQ people.

  • Walt

    CHAOS has a made a good point – BggBlckBck’s comment is offensive & I’m surprised no one before CHAOS pointed that out.. @ Cerpin Taxt – hilarious!

  • http://www.twitter.com/meekodev MeekoDev

    Brought here by a link from Gawker my friend posted on his FB. As a reader of SPLC I just had to read the comments and was not disappointed. I haven’t laughed so hard in a very long time. My computer monitor can attest to that.

    In all seriousness, this man had it coming, randomly picking on another based on his race. So glad to see that Baker took out Abbey in one punch. It must have been a strong one too as an ambulance was called.

  • Ray

    of the 7 people shot and killed by Rodrick Schonte Datzler this week 6 were White does this make Him Guilty of a hate crime?

  • Don Oorst

    Good work Marlon!

    BggBlckBck, thats unnecessary dude. Theres no need to use that sort of biggotry. We’re all pleased a racist got his just deserts. Doesn’t mean we have to slander queer folks to make our point.

    Queer folks are victims of nazi boneheads too.

  • SkinByrd

    “Racist Skinhead” is a description, not a slur. Many skinheads are not racist at all. There are skinheads, and there are racist skinheads. As a person who has many non-racist skinhead friends, I appreciate that the article differentiated.

  • tman

    Typical liberal “Jew infested” media bias. You don’t see the SPLC or the ADL, or the ADLU covering the new phenomenon by the blacks monkeys that go around targeting innocent white people and beating them senseless for no reason at all. No one peep for CNN, FOX CNBC…nada,,nothing. If this situation were reversed they would have jumped on this story like a black man white lady’s purse. I, along with millions of other American’s, are sick and tired of the liberal bias in the News. Jews control the media and they hate white people. So they ignore any stories where the victims are white and the perpetrators are black. It’s so obvious its not even funny. And this is also probably a bogus story and more than likely this guy was attacked by black thugs and then they happened to find out he was a white Supremest. Wake up white people. The enemy is Zionists and black thugs.