Comments on: Oft-Quoted Muslim-Bashers Complain of Speech Suppression http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/08/18/oft-quoted-muslim-bashers-complain-of-speech-suppression/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Sun, 19 May 2013 15:00:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Ken http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/08/18/oft-quoted-muslim-bashers-complain-of-speech-suppression/comment-page-1/#comment-316979 Ken Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:49:00 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=7591#comment-316979 "Criticism is tyranny!" is a deeply embarrassing yet familiar cry from the less-honest and less-able sorts on both sides of the political spectrum, whether it's Sarah Palin saying that tough questions and criticism violate her First Amendment rights, or Canadian censors saying that criticism "chills" their speech, and so on. “Criticism is tyranny!” is a deeply embarrassing yet familiar cry from the less-honest and less-able sorts on both sides of the political spectrum, whether it’s Sarah Palin saying that tough questions and criticism violate her First Amendment rights, or Canadian censors saying that criticism “chills” their speech, and so on.

]]> By: Aron Levy http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/08/18/oft-quoted-muslim-bashers-complain-of-speech-suppression/comment-page-1/#comment-316944 Aron Levy Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:59:57 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=7591#comment-316944 Perhaps you guys should take pride in being listed as a threat by the AFDI. If the right-wing groups you identify as hate organizations can take a perverse pride in their listing as such, it's only fair that you do the same. Turnabout is fair play! Best, Aron Perhaps you guys should take pride in being listed as a threat by the AFDI. If the right-wing groups you identify as hate organizations can take a perverse pride in their listing as such, it’s only fair that you do the same. Turnabout is fair play!

Best,

Aron

]]> By: Reynardine http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/08/18/oft-quoted-muslim-bashers-complain-of-speech-suppression/comment-page-1/#comment-316936 Reynardine Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:29:28 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=7591#comment-316936 In fact, in the psychology of abuse, this is called DARVO: Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Oppressor. It's necessary to realize that these people are group abusers: group bullies, group psychopaths, group malignant narcissists who react to even a hint of criticism with huge and vengeful outbursts of narcissistic rage. Under our laws, not a great deal can be done about them, because they stop just short of the open call to violence that would expose them to sedition charges, but by the same token, both their self-created publicity and the truth of the matter asserted leave them no cause of action if they are denounced as what they are! Indeed, let them sue: under our laws, they'll wind up worse off that David Irving. In fact, in the psychology of abuse, this is called DARVO: Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Oppressor. It’s necessary to realize that these people are group abusers: group bullies, group psychopaths, group malignant narcissists who react to even a hint of criticism with huge and vengeful outbursts of narcissistic rage. Under our laws, not a great deal can be done about them, because they stop just short of the open call to violence that would expose them to sedition charges, but by the same token, both their self-created publicity and the truth of the matter asserted leave them no cause of action if they are denounced as what they are! Indeed, let them sue: under our laws, they’ll wind up worse off that David Irving.

]]> By: James http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/08/18/oft-quoted-muslim-bashers-complain-of-speech-suppression/comment-page-1/#comment-316925 James Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:56:08 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=7591#comment-316925 The worst thing that could happen to these two obnoxious haters is if they were ignored by everybody, oh they'll still have their followers but preaching to the choir gets boring, and if theres anything spencer and geller love more than spreading deceit, hate and lies, it's being the center of attention. I say don't give them what they want...ignore them. The worst thing that could happen to these two obnoxious haters is if they were ignored by everybody, oh they’ll still have their followers but preaching to the choir gets boring, and if theres anything spencer and geller love more than spreading deceit, hate and lies, it’s being the center of attention. I say don’t give them what they want…ignore them.

]]> By: Gregory http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/08/18/oft-quoted-muslim-bashers-complain-of-speech-suppression/comment-page-1/#comment-316924 Gregory Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:55:49 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=7591#comment-316924 Free speech does not mean that speech is free from consequences. The proverbial chickens have come home to roost and Geller et al. are knee deep in chicken droppings. Free speech does not mean that speech is free from consequences. The proverbial chickens have come home to roost and Geller et al. are knee deep in chicken droppings.

]]> By: Mitch Beales http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/08/18/oft-quoted-muslim-bashers-complain-of-speech-suppression/comment-page-1/#comment-316916 Mitch Beales Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:58:49 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=7591#comment-316916 The "conservatives" like to remind us that with freedom comes responsibility. Freedom of speech comes with a responsibility to speak temperately with awareness of the implications of one's speech. It also comes with the responsibility to bear the disgrace one suffers when intemperate speech encourages criminal action. I heard on the radio yesterday that 2 men in England were sentenced to 4 years in prison for a (failed) plan to use Facebook to encourage people to join the rioting. In my opinion Spencer and Geller deserve worse. The “conservatives” like to remind us that with freedom comes responsibility. Freedom of speech comes with a responsibility to speak temperately with awareness of the implications of one’s speech. It also comes with the responsibility to bear the disgrace one suffers when intemperate speech encourages criminal action. I heard on the radio yesterday that 2 men in England were sentenced to 4 years in prison for a (failed) plan to use Facebook to encourage people to join the rioting. In my opinion Spencer and Geller deserve worse.

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