Comments on: Nativist Leader Says Violence May be Needed to Save ‘White America’

By: Amanda

Amanda — Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:43:56 +0000

Mr. Gheen,
This is America, “if you don’t like then you can get out.”

By: ruben

ruben — Sun, 28 Aug 2011 02:25:42 +0000

skinny….and while they are add it they can also blame us ” meskins ” for global warming, the bailouts to all the crooks in wall street,the recent earthquake in the east coast,hurricane katrina and every other negative misery natural or man made that is plaguing our society these days……the white right always needs there scapegoats to justify there hate…..we won’t assimilate?….is this why my english is better than my spanish!……we won’t assimilate but i served in the military as do many thousands mexican/americans…… we won’t assimilate but i vote in every election!!…..we won’t assimilate but i worry about paying my bills and mortgage on time like many other americans…..like bunnyrabbit said these people are sick,sick,sick many in the far white right look at there lives and see nothing but failures that they have brought upon themselves and they will always put the blame on some one else they are lost and hopeless in my opinion which is why they turn to hate.

By: Bunnyrabbit

Bunnyrabbit — Sat, 27 Aug 2011 04:06:02 +0000

Sick,sick,sick people full of crap that are trying to ruin everything for normal people. It seems that the far right is looking forward to anarchy so they can have a freaking barter system. Someone please explain who wants to live like Grizzly Adams? I personally like to bathe and have electricity. Why are we allowing a small percentage of pensioners with dementia to screw up the country? WE need to get off the stupid blogs and do something sane to stop this nonsense. Any suggestions?

By: skinnyminny

skinnyminny — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 22:31:31 +0000

Ruben,
Here’s a laugh for you! Illegal aliens are the new tea party congress – they won’t assimilate, they have brought their culture that no one likes, they don’t like our government…

By: ruben

ruben — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:14:11 +0000

skinny……you also have to remember that the white right hypocrites also like to call themselves the “so called watch dogs” of the constitution….but its them that are screaming the loudest to change it…….in other words in the warped minds of righties like gheen if they think that they are no longer in charge of the country they want a revolution…..how can you call that a democracy……it sounds more like a dictatorship.

By: skinnyminny

skinnyminny — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:28:30 +0000

Interesting that Gheen says that they no longer call the prez Barack Obama but dictator…because that’s what he is…
This is interesting because, the people I now call the party of ‘trick and trap,’ continues to go against what the people want. These people want to cut social security, medicare, medicaid, eliminate employees right to unionize/bargain, cut pay and raise taxes on the people who are already struggling, determine who can marry who – in re LGBT community, determine what a woman does with her body – in re Roe vs. Wade, determine who is fit or right to serve in the military, try to revoke our rights to a vote by trying to get rid of the people we voted for – in essence controling our votes…this is my definition of a dictator, or what I consider to be a dictator, people making the decisions for us against our will. The prez has not done any of this. He (the prez) has been compromising too much. A compromiser is not a dictator.

By: Ruslan Amirkhanov

Ruslan Amirkhanov — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:13:32 +0000

Dehong, can you explain why a higher Hispanic birth rate must inevitably lead to civil war and separation? I think you have a logical disconnect in your theory.

By: ModerateMike

ModerateMike — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:43:08 +0000

Dehong,

Your remarks on the future demographics of the U.S. may be correct, but what makes you believe that the country cannot remain democratic without a white majority? If anything, I would think that a more racially and ethnically diverse country would be more democratic because it would be much more difficult for any one racial/ethnic group to exclude the others from the political process.

By: ruben

ruben — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:34:28 +0000

mitch you are so right!!….hate destroys and the hate coming out of the right these past few years is what is going to doom this country. these people harbor the most poisonous and sinister hate of all……racial hatred!! there is no middle ground or negotiating with this kind of hate…..and what kind of democracy can this country have if minorities are the majority you ask (dehong)….maybe it will be better than what we have now…..it certainly can’t get any worse….for the most part the democracy the white right in this country is afraid of losing has been one of oppressing and bullying people of color at will…whats so great about that.

By: krissy

krissy — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:49:24 +0000

This is what happens when you slash education and ignorant people get their history from a pamphlet in a shoe box.

By: Josh Geyer

Josh Geyer — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:03:47 +0000

Paul Babeu (Sheriff of Pinal Co, AZ) on the Fox Business Network, Aug 23rd: “And then the President uses this argument so make like somehow we’re being un-American if we don’t wanna submit to his edict as, as almost like a, a dictator!”

By: EarleyDaysYet

EarleyDaysYet — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 23:41:15 +0000

I can still remember the first time an immigration official referred to my Australian-working-legally-in-the-US parents as “aliens” – it is designed to be depersonalising.

By: Bunnyrabbit

Bunnyrabbit — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 23:26:46 +0000

Hint: go hunt squirrels instead if you want to blow someone away…course I would feel sorry for the squirrels…

By: Bunnyrabbit

Bunnyrabbit — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 23:24:29 +0000

Dehong,

Please tell me why it has to be that way? If it’s such a big deal for white people to be the minority…explain why so many white people spend so much time getting suntans? It seems like it’s cool to be brown. Guess Mitch is right…we should go after the illegal (and idiotic) sovereign “bubbas”! Lol! Except that is what they want-an excuse to declare war on someone because they are lunatics!

By: Mitch Beales

Mitch Beales — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:38:32 +0000

Todd they’re only called “illegal aliens” by racists like you. Are speeders called “illegal drivers?” Are Wall Street cheaters called “illegal financiers?” Are sovereign citizens convicted of various crimes called “illegal bubbas?” An illegal act does not make a human being illegal. Your usage is an attempt to dehumanize people so that you can abuse them.

By: Dehong

Dehong — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:55:41 +0000

Violence may be needed to save “White America?” How true!
Not long ago, the Census Bureau reported that more Hispanic than White babies were born this year. As a matter of fact, the Whites are projected to become a minority by about 2050. By then, the Hispanics may reach about 26 percent of the American population whereas the Blacks no more than 15 or 16. In short, the present minorities will become the majority then!
So what kind of democracy can the US have then? There will definitely be some kind of violence – revolution or civil war.
And the US may break up into 2 or 3 independent states or become an authoritarian state or a dictatorship.

By: Bunnyrabbit

Bunnyrabbit — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:52:12 +0000

To think world peace…I think it’s already bloomed.

By: Bunnyrabbit

Bunnyrabbit — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:50:13 +0000

And what’s the big deal about saving white America? I’m white and I don’t feel the need to be saved. Haven’t the whackos ever heard of the melting pot? I guess that makes me a far left radical. Whoo!

By: Bunnyrabbit

Bunnyrabbit — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:46:09 +0000

I also agree with skinnyminny…this kind of talk is becoming very routine…a lady I talk about quilting with (for crying out loud!) is talking about the coming violence and is hoarding food, guns, and ammo. WTH? She is organizing groups of people to do God only knows what. I’m totally freaked out but mindful of her AK-47. Not sure what to do…she is careful not to name names…and she’s not the only nut job running loose…

By: THINKWORLDPEACE

THINKWORLDPEACE — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:32:57 +0000

Gheene has officially made a not-so-veiled threat against the President and indirectly Hispanics and immigrants. He needs to be arrested, charged, and imprisoned immediately along with intense “surveillance” on all of his members’ every move. Nip the one in the bud before it blooms.

By: marta kaye

marta kaye — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:03:50 +0000

Palin uses crosshairs to threaten people and encourage someone to kill, Beck stands in from of the TV camera yelling, -you have to shoot them in the head. Nine young people have committed sucide under pressure of the Bachmanns. The United States is becoming Germany of 1933, and the Tea Party will make sure of it in 2012. The Supreme Court does nothing to stop it.Obama takes his orders from the GOP.

By: Todd

Todd — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:55:32 +0000

They’re called illegal aliens. Calling them undocumented immigrants is left wing rhetoric. Obama’s executive order is an end run around the Congress and the constitution.
When the next republican president is elected, he will follow Obama’s example and make executive orders that the democrats don’t like. It sets a dangerous precedent.

Gheen was peaceful but grew frustrated. Our country is in the middle of a culture war. Obama hears Gheen’s side, and pretty much dismisses it. There is no compromise here. I think it’s reasonable to believe that it could get ugly.

By: MilesFan

MilesFan — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:21:15 +0000

great post CM…and I agree with Skinnyminny, this is becoming too routine

By: jwd

jwd — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:19:15 +0000

Making money off peoples ignorance is nothing new. In fact it’s the American way. However inciting ignorant masses to commit acts of violence should fall under acts of treason and should be dealt with “swift and sure”.

By: Minuteman Project

Minuteman Project — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:13:57 +0000

William Gheen is essentially a wind bag of irrational extremism who has a sinister reputation among most participants in the immigration law enforcement advocacy movement. He has been rebuffed by many for his hostility, financial greed, and serious personality disorders that have proven counter-productive to any respectable solution to our nation’s dysfuntional immigration policies.

I have warned this joker more than once to conduct himself in a professional manner if he wants to be seen as a credible pundit on immigration rather than as the mindless racial supremacist that he is. His association with convicted murderer Shawna Forde, who claimed to have been one of his fund raisers in Washington state, gives him another black eye.

Visit http://www.williamgheenfraud.com for some details about Gheen’s sinister agendas.

There are evil persons and organizations in any “movement,” regardless of the issue. In the immigration law reform/enforcement issue three of the most vile organizations, in my opinion, are William Gheen’s ALIPAC, Jeff Schwilk’s San Diego Minutemen (SDMM), and the California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR).

After seven years in political activism I have concluded that there are as many mean, criminal-minded, and heartless ogres on my side of the immigration debate as there are on the side of those opposed to me. Incredibly ironic is the fact that the only persons my organization has prosecuted in civil court, and also filed criminal charges against, are persons on my side of the debate over immigration. Shocking but true.

Jim Gilchrist, President, The Minuteman Project

By: Emma

Emma — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:44:19 +0000

Is this guy one of the Dominionists, who think their all-powerful God has lost control of the world and needs them to help him make it all right. They will have total power and those who don’t want to join their one ‘religion’ will have to be dealt with. Perry and Bachmann are, apparently, Dominionists.
I’m glad CM posted the law. Now, how many of us will join in calling on proper authorities to top this preaching of sedition and violence?
If good people do nothing……….

By: CM

CM — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:20:06 +0000

Skinnyminny,

That’s why I asked, “How far over the line?” Because this kind of talk is becoming routine, and people are trying to pass it off as just the exercise of free speech instead of the incitement to treason that it really is. You could throw in Rick Perry and any number of others who are being treated by the big media as if they weren’t the dangerous, anti-American radicals they really are.

By: ruben

ruben — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:41:13 +0000

when people are this delusional its time for a meth test.

By: Mitch Beales

Mitch Beales — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:08:10 +0000

CM it really depends on whether they are stepping over the line to the right or to the left.

By: skinnyminny

skinnyminny — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:21:18 +0000

CM,
what about when Michele said she wanted them armed and dangerous, then she said the first thing in war is know your enemy. What is your take on this?