Would you have us judge all Christians by the Westboro Baptist Church members or by the priests who are convicted of molestation? I think not. Stop judging Islam by the fanatics who acted ten years ago. Islam is NOT the enemy. Ignorance and fear are.

It’s funny how you call yourself a patriot and yet spit on the US constitution.

We also saw Iranians observing moments of silence and expressing sympathy for the US. We also saw a Christian leader claiming that the attacks were really caused by lesbians and atheists. Your point?

“Were these the moderate Muslims that had nothing to do with 9/11?”

I would say the tens of millions of Muslims worldwide who weren’t dancing were the “moderate” Muslims.

“Were these the Muslims who condemn the violence of their more radical cohorts.”

I have a felling these are: http://www.m-a-t.org/
http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm

“If a group of rednecks drove a monster truck into the ground zero Islamic Center and rednecks nationwide celebrated, would the SPLC embrace a bunch of Bubbas during ceremonies 10 years after the event?”

There is no Islamic Center at Ground Zero, so your point is moot.

“And what about that pool hall the rednecks built only 2 blocks from the remains of the Islamic Center?”

Holy crap, you actually KNEW that there was no Islamic center at ground zero; you actually knew that it was two blocks away, and yet you still implied that it was at ground zero. How do you manage to keep conflicting ideas in your head so easily?

Question about your analogy- What connection is there between the individuals who carried out 9-11 and the people who are building that Islamic cultural center?

Git me a beer, Junior

It seems as though our domestic enemies can be revealed by their support of our foreign enemies.

If a group of rednecks drove a monster truck into the ground zero Islamic Center and rednecks nationwide celebrated, would the SPLC embrace a bunch of Bubbas during ceremonies 10 years after the event?

And what about that pool hall the rednecks built only 2 blocks from the remains of the Islamic Center?

Git me a beer, Junior.

Similarly today’s US Laws R not protecting the Muslims like it is protecting the Jews or the Blacks. Witness the the Burning of the Quran with impunity.
This has had consequences for the US Citizens in the wide World & will continue to do so until someone wakes up & starts dealing with Anti-Muslims just like with anti-Semites & Racists.

My neighbors on one side are Muslims,nice people, good jobs, healthy children and very clever and amusing.
We never can talk about religion because I know the Quran as well as the bible because as an atheist I have to know what I am talking about and my neighbors don’t even know where for God’s sake they can find the nearest Mosque. I don’t know either, but the difference between us is that they are believers and I am definitely not. They like soccer and I definitely do not. No problem at all.
My Muslim neighbors are devoted to democracy, the western welfare-state, human rights, equality of justice and so on, just as I am. They like to pay taxes, but not too much. Other things we have in common is that we don’t drink too much, we don’t eat pork and we don’t have tattoos. Yeah, they are Muslims and moderate believers and I am secular but Jewish. You don’t leave all the culture of your roots behind you.

So now you will understand that the followers of our Dutch Islamophobic hero Geert Wilders are mostly to find in the rural territories where it is hard to find any Muslim. They don’t know Muslims and Wilders is using that. And by the way, something his American friends don’t like: Wilders is no Christian. He is agnostic.
I don’t mind.
The natural color of his hair is not blond, but black with some gray in it and he is partly from Asian descent, married with a women from Hungary. Do you know how strange Hungarians are in the European community of peoples? They are not of the Caucasian race and their language is not from the Indo-Arian group of languages like all the others in Europe, the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa. So, this Wilders-guy is very anti-strangers and the strangest of all is the guy himself and his family.
I don’t mind.
But he inspired a right-wing white lonely wolve in Norway to kill 60+ innocent children, camping on a small island, because the children didn’t mind too.

My comment:
It is a dangerous thing to try to take out/white wash/brain wash/diversify and CHANGE an event to fit one’s personal leanings. This is EXACTLY what happened with the Civil War and in writings about the Constitution. The Civil War was about SLAVES which brought economic prosperity to this country on the backs of my people. The Constitutional framers FAILED to deal adequately with the “slave” question. and now, you want to ignore the issues in 9/11. The Mayor of New York wants to re-frame what the responers LEANED on to get through the horror of that day. Many now want to say that this was NOT an issue of those who believed in “a” religion not ALL religions. It was Muslims who caused 9/11. Sure they may be violent and not typical. BUT.. please don’t miss the point and try to re-FRAME the argument. It only delays or even PREVENT healing. It is TRUTH that will help us heal. And if the framers of the Constitution had not failed to deal with the real issue of slavery, we would be better off now. If you who SAY you believe in diversity will look at the issues squarely and realistically, we will be better off and not delay the inevitable confrontation of what is America to do with those who might be attempting to destroy it? We simply don’t know but re-framing the issue is frankly dangerous and even more dangerous than some of the people you cited.

Please explain what in “Political Shariah Islam”(never heard that term myself) you want removed.

And if you think people like Geller or Spencer(a proven fraud) don’t hate Muslims, you clearly aren’t reading their words.

My friends – Muslim is NOT an ethnic group so I wish you would all stop treating us as such.

We (Muslims) are nothing more than followers of Islam. There are followers of Islam who make up every ethnic group and race in the world.

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, a devout Muslim, and myself want to reform Islamic Doctrine and take out all the violence in the Shariah (Islamic Law) so we can follow our religious rituals without the political Shariah. The problem is the Muslim Community has issued Fatwa’s (death sentences) on Dr. Jasser for his reformist ideas and wanting to bring Islam into the 21st Century.

I have read what all these people say about Islam – and they do not hate individual Muslims. How could they when Muslims are white, black, brown, and yellow.

These people you call the “haters” are like devout Muslim Dr. Zuhdi Jasser and Tawfiq Hamid: These people, Spencer, Jones, Cass(I don’t know about him), Emmerson, Guandolo, Gaffney, etc… They don’t hate Muslims they have specific problems with Political Shariah Islam.

The barbarity, inequality, and hate of the Political Shariah Islam is what you should be focusing not these vocal easy targets.

Ishamel Royer

And I agree with everything else you posted. Well said, better than I could express it.