All I can say is, the muslims are far more likely to agree with Alex Jones than SPLC. As for the foolish individuals claiming islam this and that, they’ll come to know that Alex Jones rebukes the Tea Party which has been taken over by corporatists that are highly islamophobic instead of government phobic.

The claim of Alex Jones being concerned about racial bias or rather government pushing the idea of what to expect, is no different than 200 years of arabs and muslims being put in the guise of the evil man in western media. The muslims know what it’s like to be pariahs of a community thanks to governments falsely attributing terror charges against those seeming to be muslims, when instead we all know that it was the government and corporations that benefited from those many acts of murder and destruction, as well as had the ability and motives to do so.

If a black individual is not a racist himself, they are more likely to support Alex Jones than Obama.

Jones does have some points, FEMA still has failed to explain its centres that store hundreds of thousands of coffin like structures that were profiled on Jesse Venture Conspiracy theory.

I don’t believe mexicans have a secret plan to kill all whites. But it is possible that some Mexicans want to take back the southwest just like some southerns want to take over the north but those groups are too small to take seriously.

If Jones really does believe all the things he says that terrorism is created by the government to take away the right of regular (non arab) Americans, then his conclusion on demonizing white Americans in the movie – while a clear exaggeration- is somewhat properly drawn even if a person was not racist. But I agree with splc that it is going very close to the line of race baiting.

One can make an observation without being hateful. As for what the SPLC does, if you have no idea, then it’s pointless for me to explain.

Define hate.

Is an observation the same as a hateful act?

Who decides if somebody hates?

Is the SPLC, or individuals within it, capable be defined as hateful?

If there are forms of hate you do not cover, explain why.

At what point does the hunt for hate become a hateful thing within itself?

If there are people who hate the SPLC, shouldn’t they be counted and a statistic given on this website, e.g. “the number of people who HATE the SPLC now stands at …” That way the SPLC can do something about the hate. Pass a law: “You have no right to hate the SPLC” or something like that.

What good does the SPLC do?

And as far as Jones having far more followers, well, that just goes to show that a lot of people in this country really do have issues. Why wouldn’t you want to read the neatly written paragraphs? Is it that your brain is not wired to do this (just repeating what some people in the media says about the brain being wired to do or not do certain things).

Here’s a good quote that I like to share with people,

Watch your thoughts, they become your words;
watch your words, they become your actions;
watch your actions, they become your habits;
watch your habits, they become your character;
watch your character for it becomes your destiny.

Oh, I am laughing that you say the SPLC is obsessed with Tim McVeigh and US military, and that OK city points to radical islam, you’re kidding right? Yes, I am laughing, you make me laugh. Welcome back!

Oh and to the user “F-Islam”, thanks for hilariously representing the typical Jones cultist.

A detailed study of the OK City bombing makes it clear that outside help was required to pull off that attack and all the evidence points to Islamic radicals.

Hear no evil, see no evil is the guiding tenent of the SPLC’s view of Islamic murderers.

These people should not be ignored, they are threat to our democracy, our country. Therefore, they should be watched and locked up if necessary. This has nothing to do with free speech, this has to do with the stability of our country.

As far as Jones, didn’t he used to be a CIA agent? If so, this is even more of a reason to watch these folks. These are the type of people that are running for elections, or have been elected or appointed to different areas of our government.

If you are pissed off about what I have said about his holiness, Alex Jones, ask yourself these questions before calling me an ignorant sheep and/or accusing me of working for the CIA/Mossad/Skull and Bones.

1. Jones has alleged in the past that many different groups are trying to create a one-world government. These theories have varied, as can be seen here: http://conspiracies.skepticpro.....on/page/4/

QUESTION: Who exactly is trying to create this government, and above all- WHY?! Claims that shadowy groups are trying to bring about a world-wide government pre-date Jones by several decades. Virtually all those who made these claims, like Jones, claimed that one-world government was just around the corner. Yet here were are in 2011 and we’ve got various power blocs competing as they did in the past.

So to repeat:

1. WHO is creating a one-world government, and WHY?
2. What possible advantages could there be from a one-world government?

Next QUESTION: Why would the US government want to implement martial law? Countries typically do this during emergencies and when there is a breakdown of order. A government does not just enact martial law for no reason, as this makes its rule more vulnerable.

Again, I repeat the question because experience has taught me that Jones fans don’t read anything that goes against his claims very carefully:

Q: WHY would the US government want to implement martial law without ample reason?

Next, let’s talk about Jones results. Jones claims he is exposing the truth. If so, how many indictments have been made due to Jones’ research? Oh naturally Jones can claim that the system is corrupt, and thus he can “prove” someone is guilty of murder or whatever, but they won’t be prosecuted or even investigated. Don’t you think that is a little convenient?

So the QUESTION is: What results has Jones achieved? Have any of the “evildoers” he “exposes” been punished? Have any laws he rails against been repealed specifically due to his activism?

Ok last question: Jones and people like him often claim that their targets “admit” to their schemes publicly sometimes. A good example of this is George Bush Sr. invoking the term “New World Order.” QUESTION: Are the conspirators covering up their secret, or are they openly declaring it for some unknown reason?

Jones can rely on the same techniques as fortune tellers, mediums, faith healers, and other con-men. Let’s take the example of a faith-healer or similar quack. Studies show that diseases and various conditions tend to ebb and flow, meaning that they grow in severity, but they can also appear to get better temporarily. So we get the following scenario:

1. Quack gives treatment, patient recovers completely- THE TREATMENT WORKS!
2. Quack gives treatment, nothing happens. Quack claims that treatment has “stabilized” the condition, preventing it from getting worse.
3. Quack gives treatment, nothing happens and it gets worse(or short recovery before getting worse)- the treatment was applied too late!!

In other words, the Quack/faith healer ALWAYS “wins.”

Jones, and others like him, can use the same technique. For example, people often ask why doesn’t the all-powerful NWO just bump him off. It’s a good question, but Jones most likely knows that even if he dies of 100% natural causes, his believers will suspect foul play anyway.

Jones can take any “warning sign” of impending martial law, and when said martial law, curfews, and round-ups don’t actually materialize, he can claim it’s because he blew the lid on the whole thing.

Jones also “stacks” his conspiracy theories, meaning that he’ll use conspiracy theories as evidence for other conspiracy theories: e.g. It’s easy to believe that 9-11 was an inside job, after all, our government was responsible for the Pearl Harbor attack. This means that in order to debunk one theory, you have to dive into a bunch of others.

Jones doesn’t give a damn about “freedom” or “liberty”. He is a businessman who understands that fear sells. He also understands that people want human faces on their social problems. In reality, the actors within the system are partially driven by conditions outside of their control. Jones gives the people villains with names. He gives them a motive like in the movies- power. He tells them what they are capable of, such as murdering 3,000 Americans, and what they are not capable of, such as killing one loudmouth who continually “exposes” all their plots every day for 15 years. The monster you know is more comforting than the one you don’t know.

Anyway, here’s an excellent source exposing Jones’ lies, logical fallacies, and sloppy “journalism.”

http://conspiracies.skepticpro.....lex-jones/

Enjoy.

Why is it so many conspiracy enthusiasts always claim to have “personally researched” stuff, as though we’re supposed to imagine them working in lab-coats as opposed to what they are actually doing- watching other conspiracy Youtube videos.

“To the best of my knowledge, it is all correct and reliable information.”

If you go by the sources St. Jones approves, no doubt.

” Stop believing the lies and help remove the corrupt bankers,politicians and judges that have destroyed my beloved republic. ”

Please tell us when your “beloved republic” existed. Pick a year please.

@CM- It’s a good thing you put in that irony warning. I was about to drop the hammer.

Alex Jones does nothing but throw things against the wall and see what sticks. Though he is well versed in history and most aren’t, so of course they’ll believe what he says. People wanna follow someone and especially who pinpoint the source of their miseries. Jones is nothing but a self important blow hard who misses not one opportunity to toot his own horn under the guise of humility. He has been saying the same thing for years and hardly any of it happening. That’s why I stop listening, everyday was a crisis and if we didn’t warn everybody we know then hell would freeze over and the planet will crack open and swallow us. I mean every single day was nothing but RED ALERT RED ALERT!!! And the way he treats his callers, it amazes to me that anybody calls in to that show. His ego is very fragile, don’t believe it? Call his show and disagree with him. He will fall apart and go on and on about what the person who disagreed just said. You could have listened to his show in 2001, then not listened until the today and would not have missed one thing.

Yeah, it did not happen, but there were 200 concentration-camps (really with photos!) and complete destruction-industries and the job should have been done by an army of more than a million foreigners, already within the USA during Bush’ second term.
I was not very worried about the alarm and after the deadline, when nothing came true, that Jones guy said that he had saved those 200million lives, because he made the governments plan public before it could be executed.
Do you understand that it makes me angry?
Yes, that patient should have been nursed with love and compassion and, of course a lot of medicines, to keep him satisfied. What are you Americans? No compassion with the brain-sick individuals?

Typical conspiracy theorist- anyone who challenges the conspiracy theory might be in on it.

“The increasing stages of martial law are quite evident:
-New Orleans Katrina gun round-ups (when citizens needed guns for self-defense the most) and mass illegal detentions of our own refugees”

This is not martial law. Martial law means the military rule. Katrina was also an emergency situation.

“-Republican/Democrat Conventions “Free Speech” zones
-Pittsburg round-ups with police-violent mass arrests of innocent bystander citizens”

This is not martial law. You need a dictionary.

“-violent raids of perfectly legal Raw Milk cooperatives by FDA
-arbitrary raid of Gibson Guitars despite their use of certified forest products”

Raids by the military?

“This growing list does not include the continued police-state tactics used in the so-called “drug war” for many years. This is unconstitutional violence against American citizens of all colors – poor and middle class – but mainly minorities!”

I agree that the war on drugs tramples all over peoples’ rights. It’s still not martial law.

“Alex Jones has strongly defended the rights of minorities and championed their causes. He is not a racist.”

Why are so many of his fans hardcore racists, and why is he a friend of the racist politician Ron Paul?

“Alex Jones works hard on a lot of important issues. It may be time for him to step back and take a breather.”

Alex Jones makes up fantasies to sell to gullible people who don’t want to take the time to learn how the world works. He prevents change, he doesn’t drive it.

“Alex Jones has strongly defended the rights of minorities and championed their causes. He is not a racist.”

I absolutely think he is, he whips radical white supremacists into a frenzy with his style of paranoid hogwash…the Arizona Minutemen that murdered Brisenia and Raul Flores were influenced by Alex Jones delusional rantings..so his is not harmless psychobabble it pushes the feeble minded into acts of atrocity…disgusting, He has blood on his hands…..

The SPLC is doing a fair job educating police about race issues, but what about the constitutional rights of all citizens? Leaving that all to the ACLU?

Alex Jones has strongly defended the rights of minorities and championed their causes. He is not a racist.

SPLC needs to take these factors into account before demonizing those who are merely reacting to the above facts. I’m not saying that racial references like, “Whites are the new Al-Queda”, are okay here, but that the video Alex was reacting to probably could have been more racially balanced.

Alex Jones works hard on a lot of important issues. It may be time for him to step back and take a breather.

Jones’ cultist followers think they are more enlightened, but in fact they are far more gullible and sheepish than most people.

Let’s see some proof.

” He was right about Gulf of Tonkin being staged.”

The Gulf of Tonkin incident was not “staged”. A sonor operator thought he heard torpedoes coming toward the Maddox. Why was he so sure? Because the Maddox HAD been fired on with torpedoes the day before. Robert MacNamera admitted this, before Jones was on the air.

” He was right about buying gold when it was $300/OZ, now its over 1800.”

Alex Jones was the only one who predicted gold would go up, right. It is in Jones’ interest to push gold, so he can dump it as soon as it peaks.

” He was right about Obama backtracking on his campaign promises and increasing the military presence in the Middle East.”

A LOT of people predicted Obama would reneg on his promises. Even more people pointed out that Obama never made many promises, such as pulling out of the Middle East.

” He was right about the purposeful outsourcing of American jobs.”

This had already begun long before Alex Jones was on the air. Jones could have easily read some business publications and learned that this would be a trend.

” He was right about the Patriot Act being used against Americans.”

Right, because only Alex Jones suggested that would happen.

” He was right about every major act of domestic terrorism in the last 20 years being carried out by the federal government.”

Nope. Wrong on all counts. You really think we’re stupid enough not to notice you sneaking that in? A better question is, “Does Alex Jones believe that any terrorist attack was carried out by terrorists.”

” He was right about the Bilderberg group. ”

Could you be more specific?

“He is right over 85% of the time!”

In Fantasy Land, perhaps. In the real world no. Alex Jones is a savvy businessman/cult leader.

“…conversation instead of covering his record of accuracy and the governmental crimes he has helped expose. ”

If Alex Jones is successfully “exposing” all these crimes, then why…

1. ..have no indictments been handed down for the crimes he has exposed? Oh right, because the conspiracy covers everything up, including in the courts.

2. …hasn’t Alex Jones been called as an expert witness on any of this stuff?

3. ….hasn’t Alex Jones been killed, or had an unfortunate “accident”? A government as powerful as the one he preaches about should be able to bump him off and make it seem like an accident without any problems.