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Hatewatch is managed by the staff of the Intelligence Report, an investigative magazine published by the Alabama-based civil rights group Southern Poverty Law Center.
State-Certified Texas Gun Safety Instructor Won’t Teach Muslims
Crockett Keller wants handgun owners to know how to be “victors, not victims.” That’s why the Texas-based concealed carry license (CHL) instructor, who owns Keller’s Riverside Store and HooDoo Ranch Realty (established in 1862 by Keller’s great-great-grandfather), teaches courses in handgun use and safety in exchange for $100.
He’ll accept cash, checks, credit cards, gold, silver or used guns.
But what he won’t do is teach Muslims how to shoot – or liberals, for that matter.
He made that crystal clear in a radio advertisement for yesterday’s CHL training at his store in Mason, Texas. “If you are a socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner-in-chief, please do not take this class. You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision as required under the law.
“Also, if you are a non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not teach you the class. Once again, with no shame, I am Crockett Keller. Thank you and God Bless America.”
Reached by phone early this afternoon, Keller – whose website includes a link to the ad – told Hatewatch he had received about a thousand supportive messages since the ad first aired a few days ago, and only two complaints.
Asked why he doesn’t want Muslims in his class, Keller said, “I have a particular philosophy about concealed carry. I take it very seriously.”
He continued, “If you are a devout Muslim, you have the right to lie, cheat, steal, kill, do whatever you want to in order to promote Islam. Which means in the United States, if you are a devout Muslim, how can you pledge allegiance to the United States of America? You can’t. The ideologies are diametrically opposed.
“I consider all Muslims our enemies, no matter how nice they are. … I could not trust one and I, as an instructor, am not going to teach one how to shoot a gun and aid him in getting a license.”
It’s not clear whether this type of discrimination is lawful. Keller, though licensed by the state to teach the gun course, is not an employee of the state of Texas, and business owners do have considerable discretion in deciding whom they wish to serve. However, except in the case of private clubs, anti-discrimination laws generally prohibit businesses from denying service based solely on religion.
A spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS), which issues concealed carry instructor permits, told Hatewatch that department officials learned of Keller’s ad earlier today. But they cannot take action unless a written complaint, complete with evidence, is filed. “In my opinion it’s a horrible thing for the guy to do,” the spokesman said, “but we have to go by protocol.”
Keller, meanwhile, has no regrets. “I exercise my prerogative … to choose who would be good candidates for concealed handgun license,” he said. “I wish that the people who had taught the Muslims that flew the jets into the World Trade Center, I wish they had the forethought to think of what they were teaching these assassins.”
on October 27th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
One day, by the grace of a loving and truly all-seeing higher power, Crockett Keller and his in-bred backwoods hillbilly elk will be absolutely non-existent in the human population, and the world will be an infinitely better place because of it.
Of course, the ironic thing is, the few extremist Muslims he’s actually group streotyping of would actually go more for SURPRISE bombings and the like, meaning that the hijacked planes, suicide explosions and such would be out in the open and without warning, meaning they WOULD NOT be taught or initiated by brain-dead John Bircher/militia fundamentalist nativists who are so far to the Right they forget that anything Left or otherwise was there to being with.
This readers, is exactly the non-sensical bovine fecal matter highlighted in Charles Pierce’s “Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free”; these Teabagging rednecks should be pitied and quarantined from the rest of the thinking, productive people, not the standard fascist claptrap of at least 1/2 of our political discourse…
on October 27th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
This is really nothing new for Texas but I believe federal civil rights law may prohibit this kind of behavior nowadays.
on October 27th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
That is discrimination at it’s finest!! You are nothing but a crotchitty, racist old man. Statements like this only make me wanna vote for Obama even more!! In America we have freedom of religion. I hop
on October 27th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Muslims absolutely can be the victims of Hate Crimes, and we should certainly support their learning how to not be a victim. These CCW classes teach awareness and the legal aspects of defense, as well as very basic safety and proficiency. The NRA is open to every American if they want to take more advanced training, and it is to their advantage to become more diversified and mainstream. They have fought for the rights of Project Dwellers to keep a gun in “their” home. This guy here is playing on a very used fiddle.
on October 28th, 2011 at 12:46 am
He says he won’t teach “non-Christian Muslims”. I wonder how he feels about Jews!
Of course, since I’m a Jewish liberal woman from New York, he probably wouldn’t teach me anyway, so it doesn’t matter.
On another note: I usually try not to stereotype people by their appearance, but really — this picture says it all.
on October 28th, 2011 at 3:12 am
If someone wanted to sue, they could probably use federal voting rights law as a cause. When Texas passed it’s Voter ID law they allowed Concealed Carry Licenses to be used as a form of ID
http://www.usatoday.com/news/n.....r-ID_n.htm
By denying voter’s classes (which I assume are necessary for the permit) he is in violation of the 14th amendment.
I’d love to see the SPLC file a nice Texas sized lawsuit against this man.
on October 28th, 2011 at 3:29 am
And ignorant moron..in TEXAS? You don’t say.
I just can’t get over how incredibly afraid conservatives are. Everything scares them to death and it almost seems like they WANT to fear. What an unsatisfying way to go through life.
on October 28th, 2011 at 6:08 am
It’s about time someone stood up. This is not, repeat, NOT discrimination! This is truth and survival of a Nation and People. Read the Koran. Then read sharia law. Do you want your daughter raped to then be stoned to death? ? ?
Wake up your liberal rectal cavities. But not to worry. You liberals will loose the next revoluition. we have all the guns. Ha Ha
on October 28th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Ithink is just as hate filled as the CHL Instructor, oh well. I’m a Texan conservative, i find it fundamentally wrong and contradictive to my beliefs to deny anyone the right to self defense through instruction because of they’re religion.
At least I can voice my opposition and say that many Texans feel the same as I do. It would be nice if Texas revoked his Instructors License.
on October 28th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Way to go, Mr Keller! My sentiments, exactly. We need more people like you to stand up and do what’s right for Texas, and the good ol’ USA. God bless you.
on October 28th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Mr. Keller you are a TRUE AMERICAN!!! I will stand behind you 100%. If a Texas license is good in Kansas I will drive down and take the course from YOU. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
on October 28th, 2011 at 8:41 am
I think this is great. I would not teach Muslims or Arabs to shoot either because it is a suicide mission. These people want to hurt our country, so why would we want to teach them how to shoot? Also, liberals don’t like guns as it is, so why teach them either? This man is spot-on!! This is the First Amendment at its finest. He can say what he wants and there is nothing anyone can do about it!
on October 28th, 2011 at 8:48 am
God Bless Texans!!!!! Well said. Makes me want to take the course. Would be well worth the dollar.
on October 28th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Funny, I’m a liberal from Massachusetts and I like guns. I’m currently applying for my CC permit.
So you bigots can go shove it.
on October 28th, 2011 at 9:49 am
@IThink-It’s “ilk” not “elk”. Btw, does wishing this part of the human race away mean you support genocide?
on October 28th, 2011 at 10:03 am
How would Mr. Keller even know if a person were a Muslim or a liberal? Even if he tried to screen his customers with some casual questions about their religion and politics, it would not be too difficult for a fair-skinned, U.S.-born Muslim with a liberal philosophy to clap him on the back and say, “God bless you, Mr. Keller! It’s about time someone stood up to the Muslims and liberals who are trying to wreck the country!”
on October 28th, 2011 at 11:18 am
What about those of us who, though religious, are not Abrahamic (the genus which encompasses the species Judaism, Christianity, and Islam)? I try as best I can do, to keep Faith with the Old Gods. I do not call myself a Witch because, in erroneous public perception, this means a claimant or aspirant to psychic and/or magickal power; rather I recognize that Nature is both male and female, so I worship both the Lord and the Lady. Too, I have been an enthusiastic handgun person, in speculation since age four, in operation since age eighteen. I relinquished my carry permit when I retired.
on October 28th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Tommy you may have the assault rifles but Obama has the tanks, bombers, and nuclear missiles. Good luck with that!
on October 28th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Amused in Oregon I have to admit I was also quite amused by the image of “hillbilly elk.”
on October 28th, 2011 at 11:48 am
While I disagree entirely with his position, a number of respondents here are using the same bigoted labeling and hate speech that he is. You can’t have it both ways.
Being free in America gives him the right to do whatever he wants, within the bounds of the law, and that also includes the right to be wrong and make bad decisions.
There are plenty of other instructors who would be more than happy to teach any law abiding citizen, regardless of creed, color or political leanings. His will be a self-limiting customer base that will eventually dwindle to the point where he goes out of business.
I also wonder what his opinion is on the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of Muslims taught tactics and gunfighting by the US military and Coalition forces in Afghanistan, Iraq, Central Asia, and east Asian nations like Malaysia. In many of those instances, we gave them the guns, too.
“Wake up your liberal rectal cavities. But not to worry. You liberals will loose the next revoluition. we have all the guns. Ha Ha”
Actually, the liberals won the last revolution, in 1776. Conservative gun owners are doing ALL gun owners a huge disservice by alienating the gun-owning moderates and liberals. We’ll never know how many of those there are, given the constant attacks on everything else they believe in by radical conservatives.
on October 28th, 2011 at 11:50 am
I am sure Keller loves the NRA. There was legislation proposed for suspected terrorists on the government’s no fly list to lose their right to own weapons. They can’t buy plane tickets but they can buy guns. It did not pass thanks in part to the NRA. http://tinyurl.com/3ltw2ua
on October 28th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
i’ve got news for crockett keller!!…..there are alot of white right wingers out there that should not be allowed to carry guns either….most of the massacres involving guns here in the u.s have been committed by white people who identify with the right…..like conservative in texas says liberals don’t like guns so he just helped me prove my point.
on October 28th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
“It’s about time someone stood up. This is not, repeat, NOT discrimination! This is truth and survival of a Nation and People. Read the Koran. Then read sharia law. Do you want your daughter raped to then be stoned to death? ? ?”
You cannot “read sharia law”, because Sharia law does not exist in written form. Most Muslim countries do not run via Sharia law, and there are many different interpretations of it anyway. By all means though, show us where the Koran says a woman should be stoned to death for being raped.
“These people want to hurt our country, so why would we want to teach them how to shoot?”
Please present evidence that all Arabs and Muslims want to hurt your country. Or you can just admit to being ignorant and I’ll drop the matter.
on October 28th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Tim McVeigh was a conservative, Christian white man who seriously hurt our nation. I would not teach any Christian white man to shoot a gun; seeing as these people want to hurt our nation.
on October 28th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
“This is the First Amendment at its finest. He can say what he wants and there is nothing anyone can do about it!”
Yes, the first amendment protects his right to make an ass out of himself. Your right to do so as well! Hooray!
on October 28th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
It’s refreshing to see his ad and see the fame he’s getting! His classes will fill up to the max! I agree, those who voted for our Campaigner in Chief don’t seem to have the mental capacity to make a proper life and death decision if they have to defend their family or their home. Plus, it’s wise not to teach potential terrorists.
on October 28th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Did Jesus tell him to do it? Crazy bat shit talk like this is always followed up by the god talk…
on October 28th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Hey Tommy, your comment “You liberals will loose the next revoluition. we have all the guns. Ha Ha.” Hate to burst your red neck bubble head but no you don’t have all the guns.
on October 28th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
“Actually, the liberals won the last revolution, in 1776.”
Make sure that you understand the word “liberal” here.
Classical liberals (based on theories espoused by John Locke and other Enlightenment thinkers), such as the Founding Fathers and current liberals are not anywhere near the same. Those “liberals” of the past wanted a very small central gov’t, no restrictions on gun ownership and little or no taxes. I don’t believe that the modern liberal is in favor of those things.
on October 28th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
” I agree, those who voted for our Campaigner in Chief don’t seem to have the mental capacity to make a proper life and death decision if they have to defend their family or their home. Plus, it’s wise not to teach potential terrorists.”
Man it’s like a dump-truck full of ignoramuses just pulled in here. Ok what’s with the “Campaigner in Chief” buzzword now? I’ve got no love for Obama but are you trying to imply that Republican candidates don’t campaign now? Are you seriously stupid enough to act like sitting presidents don’t go on the campaign trail in the year prior to their reelection bid? It wouldn’t surprise me; you people are infamous for your short memories and attention spans.
It’s not wise to teach “potential terrorists” huh? Ok, from now on, white conservatives shouldn’t be allowed to take firearms training courses then. Never know when they might shoot an abortion doctor or blow up a federal building.
Ok seriously, I get where you’re coming from. I mean afterall, those 19 hijackers managed to kill 3,000 Americans thanks to their skillful handling of concealed firearms, right?
I’m amazed you guys can even dress yourselves in the morning.
on October 28th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
“Classical liberals (based on theories espoused by John Locke and other Enlightenment thinkers), such as the Founding Fathers and current liberals are not anywhere near the same. Those “liberals” of the past wanted a very small central gov’t, no restrictions on gun ownership and little or no taxes. I don’t believe that the modern liberal is in favor of those things.”
Mike, they wanted a “small government” because they lived in what was still a small, agricultural country which did not need a larger federal government. Little or no taxes? Hardly. Aside from the taxes the government collected from its citizens, the US imposed steep tariffs on many goods so as to protect its fledgling native industries. No restriction on firearms ownership? Well given that the standard firearm for the military and civilians was a flintlock musket, what could you really restrict?
So yes, the Founding Fathers were liberals in the classical sense, men who, for all their failings, sought change and progress instead of feudalism and monarchy. They expected their descendants to improve upon their work.
on October 28th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
http://www.wlky.com/r/29607158.....9.facebook
Well speak of the devil! THIS is why you shouldn’t teach white males with conservative values how to operate firearms. They are all potential terrorists who want to hurt the US!
on October 28th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Originally, the gov’t of the US didn’t collect any taxes based on income from its citizens. Tariffs – yes – from importers. Did it tax those fledgling industries heavily? No. So, they set up a gov’t that was trying to be business-friendly and thus encouraging growth.
As far as the guns go, the muskets was the technology of the time and the FF did not want to restrict ownership of it. Remember that the reason that the Brits marched to Concord and Lexington was to take control of the militia’s arms ie to restrict it. Hence, the 2nd Amendment.
Lastly, you are right in that they did put in place a mechanism to make changes when needed. Via Constitutional Conventions. Not judicial activism. Not executive orders.
on October 28th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
If Texas really wants to be safe, they should install separate drinking fountains for Muslims. Probably should make them ride in the back of the bus as well.
on October 28th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Its not about hatin’ anyone. It’s about his right to make his own decisions about who he will treach and I support that right 100%.
on October 29th, 2011 at 1:23 am
God Bless Mr Keller, finally back to some common sense and values in this country. Lets start the revolution and send the socialist liberals back to Europe where they belong.
on October 29th, 2011 at 8:38 am
We have a black republican contender Herman Cain. This man has heard everything that pertains to racism, but ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN etc…all the liberal channels won’t mention that the severe criticism Cain receives is racist. Oh but when Obama who apologizes to the world for America, WHAT! does not call any arab a terrorist or use the word terroist, obviously wants government to run everything without any clue on how to pay for it except borrow or print money. Create little robots that will receive anything from food, clothing etc…If we dare chastise the holy one or he thinks we are racists as america sinks :)
on October 29th, 2011 at 10:10 am
There is a lot of nonsense here. I’ll start with Francis. You say the criticism Herman Cain receives is racist. Prove it. The 999 plan is intellectually bankrupt. After that, you say anyone who criticizes Barack Obama is accused being a racist. I do agree that honest and fair criticisms of the POTUS is not racist. I’ve criticized him a lot myself such as his foreign policy and some domestic issues. You can’t have it both ways. Is it because Cain’s a Republican?
Chris and James Hutchings, you two clowns are not bright in every way.
on October 29th, 2011 at 10:15 am
He’ll teach Christian/Hindu/Jewish and/or Latino/white/black/Asian terrorists though.
on October 29th, 2011 at 10:18 am
“Originally, the gov’t of the US didn’t collect any taxes based on income from its citizens. Tariffs – yes – from importers. Did it tax those fledgling industries heavily? No. So, they set up a gov’t that was trying to be business-friendly and thus encouraging growth.”
You need to read more carefully. The US had tariffs on imports, and did levy taxes on property for example. That “business friendly” government also included slavery, genocide, and terrible conditions for working people until the late 1930s.
“As far as the guns go, the muskets was the technology of the time and the FF did not want to restrict ownership of it. Remember that the reason that the Brits marched to Concord and Lexington was to take control of the militia’s arms ie to restrict it. Hence, the 2nd Amendment.”
There was no Constitution when they marched to Concord and Lexington, and that totally misses the point. In those days a militia and a line infantry regiment basically fought with the same arms.
“Lastly, you are right in that they did put in place a mechanism to make changes when needed. Via Constitutional Conventions. Not judicial activism. Not executive orders.”
“Judicial activism” means judges making decisions I don’t like. They made it plain that interpretation of the Constitution was to be left up to the Supreme Court.
on October 29th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Oh Francis, you are quite entertaining.
“We have a black republican contender Herman Cain.”
Oh wait, I thought you people don’t see color, only liberals do that, right.
” This man has heard everything that pertains to racism, but ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN etc…all the liberal channels won’t mention that the severe criticism Cain receives is racist.”
Really. So criticizing Cain’s idiotic tax plan is racist? Pointing out that he has serious misunderstandings about the Constitution, Islam, and the freedom of religion is racist? That he makes idiotic claims prefaced with the phrase, “I don’t have any facts to back this up…” is racist? That he blames poor people for their own plight is racist? By all means explain that.
“Oh but when Obama who apologizes to the world for America, WHAT! does not call any arab a terrorist or use the word terroist, obviously wants government to run everything without any clue on how to pay for it except borrow or print money.”
I don’t remember Obama “apologizing for America”. You want your president to go around calling Arabs “terrorists” at random? And when the hell did Obama ever say that he wanted the government to run everything? Why don’t you take a look at a breakdown of public vs. private ownership of assets in the US before making such an idiotic claim. In fact, WHY DON’T ANY OF YOU CONSERVATIVE YAHOOS ACTUALLY CHECK SOMETHING BEFORE SWALLOWING IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER FROM GLENN BECK OR SOME OTHER EX-DJ?
on October 29th, 2011 at 10:30 am
I also love how the ignorant conservatives have this irrational hatred for Europe, despite the fact that many of them have never been and never will go for that matter. Europeans live better than Americans, hands down. Even some Eastern European countries have benefits that most Americans cannot even dream of.
How did this happen? Well in America people bought into the myth that hard-work will be rewarded, and that the success of the top 1% will trickle down to them all. There is absolutely no evidence that this is true, and in fact plenty of evidence to the contrary, but they still believe it. And why aren’t all these conservative lackeys multi-millionaires themselves? Well of course it’s the illegal aliens, the taxes(which are at unprecedented lows), the libruls, the Muslims, etc.
on October 29th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Okay does anyone here whining about “social liberalism” even know what that means?
on October 29th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Just down the road, on Tuesday nights at the local senior citizens center, OathKeepers are teaching an 8 week course about the Constitution and sprinkle their information with “If you aren’t a Christian, you are the enemy!” This is quite troubling since the picture of Jesus that they hold up during their presentation has blue eyes and a red beard. Accuracy and honesty are not part of this group’s mission and the ignorant in attendance are mostly teenagers and spellbound and hypnotized by “these experts.” They, to me, are potentially far more dangerous than some simple-minded Texan.
on October 29th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I don’t know, Wolf, if they’re teaching at the Senior Citizen center these guys are going to die soon anyway. That’s one of the upsides to the US not having a social health insurance system. It means many of these people will die sooner. Ditto on the teens as well; retirees can rely on Medicare at least.
To answer Mcween’s question, no, these people don’t know what liberalism, socialism, fascism, or capitalism are. They basically divide the world into two camps like this:
GOOD WORDS: Capitalism, family values, America, freedom, Christian.
BAD WORDS: Liberal, progressive, socialist, European, community organizer.
Actual definitions or reality don’t matter to these people.
on October 29th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
it is bad when a white man is 3rd class in texas
on October 30th, 2011 at 1:44 am
Rusian:
Well, I do know they are teaching down at the Senior Center because I was invited, so I’m not speaking in the abstract. The local chief of police is aware of it but doesn’t seem to mind as their numbers grow in our area. With Halloween coming up, it would be nice to pull their masks off since they are masquerading as Christian Constitutionalists for the almighty dollar. Their workshop workbook is $30.00..I believe that is their true purpose…
on October 30th, 2011 at 10:11 am
lone wolf you are right……at this point i would be more worried about white right wingers then a person of the muslim faith….the white right has been fueled by alot of racist/ethnic hate these last few years,especially with the election of obama by groups such as the oath keepers and the tea party……it is almost like they are trying to out do each other with there bigotry…..i am a christian of mexican decent and at this point i would trust a muslim more than i would someone from the tea party!!…..and jesus with blue eyes and red hair!!……hilarious!!…..he was from the middle east not the rhine…..lol!!
on October 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
This guy sounds like a hi quality d-bag, and I don’t think that he’s doing his just to piss folks off. Texas, lovely bastion of freeperdom, just has too many to them to support. You have to out-crazy the crazies just to get someone to pay attention to you. This guy is full of stupid and wants attention from his fellow primates to spend their gold bars with him and not another gun worshipping lunatic.
Keller is a troll, abiet a gun carrying self-absorbed one. In a country awash with weapons, one would think he would keep his opinions on the down low.
Guns are like opinions, everybody has one or access to one and they do not require an ideology to use
on October 31st, 2011 at 8:17 am
The next time they dare mention secession in public let’s accept it.
on October 31st, 2011 at 11:36 am
Does anyone really think that the federal income tax was imposed for the benefit of the workers? I don’t know for sure but I must assume that a government which has NEVER favored workers imposed a tax on income to avoid increasing taxes on the real property which constituted the means of production owned by farmers and wealthy industrialists. It was graduated because a flat income tax sufficient to sustain the union against the rebel traitors (or a dramatic increase in property tax for that matter) would have devastated the economy as has begun to occur as progressivity has been removed from taxation.
on October 31st, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Taxes basically pay for those services which are necessary for capitalism to function(particularly public education), but which individual capitalists don’t want to pay for, much less pay a for-profit enterprise. In this way, the costs can be spread out among the whole population.
on November 1st, 2011 at 11:47 am
“If you are a devout Muslim, you have the right to lie, cheat, steal, kill, do whatever you want to in order to promote Islam”. Same as extreme christians! Like this jerk.
on November 1st, 2011 at 12:19 pm
God Bless Mr Keller for not being a Political Correct Wimp like the Leftists are. I agree with him and I also think that Islam should not be allowed within America’s borders. It is incompatable with Democracy and our Republic, just as Liberalism is, but the Libs are just immature and stupid, and they know they would lose if they started some violence! Once Again, God Bless Mr Keller and I pray more American Business will follow in his footsteps!
on November 1st, 2011 at 1:46 pm
BillWhit,
So long as you keep praying and not resorting to violent action, do whatever you want. I’m sure you’ll get the results you’re looking for.
(Get a life, kook).
on November 1st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
What happened Bill, were you setting out to surpass Mr. Keller in the ignorance department? If so I’d say we have a new champion!
Question: If liberals are such wimps, why is Keller afraid to teach them to use guns? Are they wimps, like in 2002-2008, or are they “thugs”, like post 2009? Please get back to us on that.
” It is incompatable with Democracy and our Republic, just as Liberalism is,”
There are simply so much stupid in that sentence I think it qualifies as “not even wrong.” That means you would have to drastically improve this sentence JUST to be wrong.
I’m going to assume that I don’t need to point out all the specific points of idiocy in that sentence. I’m going to assume that Bill will realize the error of his ways, and crack open a few history and political science books, and apologize for typing before thinking. And Bill, here’s a piece of advice when looking for reliable history and poli-sci books: If the front cover features a really serious white guy standing in front of an American flag, it’s probably worthless.
*For those who have never heard of the concept of “not even wrong”, it works like this. 2 + 2 = 5 is “wrong”, as in incorrect. 2 + 2 = KILL ALL THE WHALES! Doesn’t even meet the standard of “wrong.”
on November 1st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
“… Islam should not be allowed within America’s borders. It is incompatable with Democracy and our Republic …”
Well, Bill, there’s another religion that’s also incompatible with democracy, according to one of its most influential recent “thinkers”:
“The heresy of democracy has since then worked havoc in church and state … Christianity and democracy are inevitably enemies.” — R.J. Rushdoony, in “The Institutes of Biblical Law.”
on November 1st, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Oh look here:
http://news.yahoo.com/georgia-.....38938.html
Just more proof that white, conservative men are determined to hurt America and kill Americans. This is why if you love America, you will NOT teach any white, Christian man to shoot guns.
on November 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
If he still has a Constitutional Right to have free speech, the Constitutional Right as a Citizen of the USA, and the Constitutional Right to stand up for and support and defent the Constitution of the USA, I support him in his rights.
on November 3rd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Funny how Conservatives think that all Liberals don’t like, own, or know how to use a gun. Ignorance is bliss i guess.
on November 3rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I know it’s been mentioned already, but “his in-bred backwoods hillbilly elk” made me choke on my drink. I have a mental image of an Bullwinkle-esque elk dressed in overalls, standing in front of a cabin, grinning moronically & cross-eyed into the camera.
On a more serious note, I am so glad I was a child when we lived in the States – I think that, as an adult, my head would probably explode if I tried to live there now. I’ve been back, to NC/SC/GA where I grew up, and was astounded by the sheer volume of cheerful, blind, arrogant bigotry & ignorance.
I would invite anyone concerned about “Muslim terrorism” to look up the stats for “acts of terror committed on American soil”, for starters – I think you’ll be unhappily surprised to see how many were NOT committed by “men of Middle Eastern appearance”. Expand that search to a global level, and YOUR heads might explode!
on November 3rd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
The 4th Amendment concerning free association (which would include business) and the 14th Amendment laying the base for forced acceptance have been in conflict for a century and a half with no resolution. Keller is asserting his 4th Amendment rights here and will probably be challenged under the 14th. He should consider making his business a private club which will allow him to exclude whomever he chooses without a serious challenge.
The Islamic cut-throats have done just that. No non-Muslim may enter any of their terrorist training camps here in the US. The most famous one is located in New York state and called Islamberg. The one closest to my neck of the woods is called Camp Ground Zero located in Marion, Alabama.
Camp Ground Zero was actually discovered by British authorities after 9-11 and is where the DC sniper trained for his indesciminate thinning of the American herd.
In spite of the SPLC’s tunnel vision that seeped into the DHs report in 2009 claiming that former white military right wingers were the MOST DANGEROUS DOMESTIC TERRORIST THREAT, they completely ignored the sugnificant numbers of former black soldiers and sailors in Allah’s employ. The DC sniper was just one of many.
So when Keller states he does not want to be responsible for training another DC sniper or worse, why would any liberal feel any government should force him to act against his conscience? Besides, if you want to shoot and you’re turned away at Keller’s gate, trot on down to Marion, Alabama and start praising Allah. Someone will be by shortly to pick you up to shoot at no charge whatsoever.
on November 3rd, 2011 at 9:28 pm
This fellow does not sound particularly enlightened at all, but he has the right not to teach whomever he wishes.
I am sure there are plenty of handgun instructors who would be willing to service Muslim customers, so let the free market reign supreme.
on November 4th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Dick,
Sorry, once again you lose. I searched for ‘Camp Ground Zero,’ and received exactly ONE hit: a FOX News story alleging its existence in 2002.
‘Camp Islamberg’ generated quite a few more hits, but they were all from Free Republic, and their ilk: not exactly the most objective groups in the world.
So for the umpteenth time, your ‘evidence’ falls flat.
Try again tomorrow! We’ll be sure to shoot it down as usual.
on November 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Pathan tribesmen used to shoot Lord Mountbatten’s cigarettes out of his mouth for a joke, and never grazed his skin. As I recall, it was some thoroughly Chrstian Irish who blew him up.
on November 4th, 2011 at 9:05 am
As I sit here reading all these comments, I am feeling really sorry for our country. I strongly agree with Mr. Keller’s thoughts. Although there are some people out there that choose to call him childish names. Is that not tolerance on the Liberals part of name calling, people who they don’t agree with? I don’t know how you all can not see what the main goal of Muslim’s are. They will destroy America from with in. Fact: they took pilot’s training in this country by instructors without checking their background trusting that they were “good” Muslims. Look what we get for trusting. In turn, they killed thousands of people in New York and affected America for years to come. Thanks to most of you and your comments, I am clearly starting to see that it is so far past help. The stand up of Mr. Keller shows me that there is still some people who are trying to fight against them. I really appreciate his bravery! Thanks.
on November 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Wow,
I became familiar with that God-Send, Morris Dees and the SPLC over 25 years ago. The first case I remember him working on was the Michael McDonald lynching. What Mr. Dees did for Mrs. McDonald (Michael’s mother) told me one thing: Join this courageous man and support his cause, which I did. I’m not the most dedicated supporter, admittedly, but a supporter nonetheless. Having recently rekindled my relationship with the Southern Poverty Law Center, I decided, against my normal practice of subscribing to such things, to subscribe to Hate Watch. I’m glad I did. I really and truly enjoy reading this. It’s my first time here and I had no idea it was going to be such a funny site to visit. Hollywood, a place I’m quite familiar with (I’ve done a ton of background work and other more serious work in Hollywood), couldn’t write anything more entertaining than the gibberish I am reading today! What an absolute riot! HA! Keep it up gentlemen! I had NO IDEA I was going to start my Friday with some of the best laughs I’ve had all year! Idiots? Yes. But very funny ones.
And I love the way you guys end your gibberish. Let’s see if I’m understanding this correctly: Espouse bigotry, hatred,certifiable ignorance, not to mention a relatively pathetic command of the English language, racist views, no tolerance of anything non-white and so far right it hurts, and end the bull-feces with GOD BLESS AMERICA, and that it makes it all right. Please! By all means, don’t stop…I am thoroughly entertained. Oh, by the way, I’m a Caucasian gay male and I still have my NRA card from when I was 16 in Omaha. I like football, boys, and idiots like you! (There Myrna, that’ll get ‘em goin’!) Have a nice (with a lisp) day boys.
GOD BLESS MORRIS DEES.
on November 5th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Cutting through the entertaining chatter, let’s think about this character for a moment. In 1862 I have serious doubt that there was a Hoodoo Ranch Realty, Co. during The Civil War. I am not specically familiar with the history of land ownership 1n 1862, but it would have been regulated by The Confederate State of Texas. Land title was just a few years from Spanish Grants, Mexican ownership and territorial claim of Native Americans. Possibly, Hoodoo Ranch (certainly Biblically named) is just a bit of self aggrandizing puffery.
The State of Texas can, if it wishes, find grounds to impact his CHL Instructor’s License if it wishes. It is just that, a state license which sets the qualifications for instructors as well as those who seek the license. Since the State of Texas cannot place the limitations on its citizens as Mr. Keller, then he, must teach as the state reqirements direct. That being a “shall issue” statute.
Also, there is a Federal interest suggested here. The Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Agency requires a Federal Firearms License for a person actively engaged in the firearms sales business, with some small excepton. Is Mr. Keller violating Federal Law regarding the firearms he takes as “barter” payment? Are the weapons being checked against State and Federal lists of stolen guns, etc. Homeland Security may have an interest in the history and future ownership also. How many have been stolen and whose hands, perhaps militia or cartel, will they wind up in?
Of course, Mr. Keller may be stirring up local emotions for the purpose of running for office. In Texas, it is not required for a person to have legal training or license to be a City Magistrate, Justice of the Peace, County Commissioner, or County Judge unless the office is designated as a County Court at Law. This whole thing brings to mind the image of “Boss Hogg” and The Dukes of Hazzard.
on November 5th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Aron, good luck getting a permit in that state. They exist but are are issued on a “discretionary” basis. Oh, and Ruslan, that link was to a Louisville TV station but those particular scumbags were across the river in southern Indiana, and a good advertisement for keeping a gun close by.
on November 7th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Dick Lancaster I think I thoroughly debunked your claim about an Islamist “training camp” in Alabama in a previous thread (reprinted below for your edification). Do you have new facts or are you just spouting the same old hateful lies?
Mitch Beales said,
on November 2nd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Dick your “good research” smells like it comes from that dark place where you keep your head. Hizb ut-Tahrir America seems to be a Palestinian religious organization that believes governments should be based on religious law, very much like many in the GOP. Jamaat ul-Fuqra seems to be a splinter group that has not been very active for some time. The “Old Hippie’s Forums” http://www.oldhippie.com/forums/90649-post1.html lists the last known location for this group in Marion, AL as:
27.Jamaat Ul Fuqra Marion Alabama where Washington St and Clements meet
Lat: 32.63504269761637n
Long: 87.31886386871338w NOT Confirmed
The street level view on Google http://maps.google.com/maps?q=…..CC8Q8gEwAQ suggests that this location is actually an Episcopal Church. Why don’t you get some treatment for your agoraphobia? That might allow you to remove your head from “that dark place” long enough to get a little relief from the foul odor.
on November 9th, 2011 at 5:21 am
” I don’t know how you all can not see what the main goal of Muslim’s are. They will destroy America from with in. Fact: they took pilot’s training in this country by instructors without checking their background trusting that they were “good” Muslims.”
So all Muslims are terrorists. Thanks for putting your ignorance on display for all to see.
on November 11th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
If you don’t think there’s anything to be concerned about from ‘nice’ muslims, then you need to read the book, “Everlasting Hatred: The Roots of Jihad” by Hal Lindsey. If you’re cognizant in the LEASTand are not intellectually dishonest, you’ll have to admit at least to yourself the truth of this book. I for one applaude Keller and if I had a business of my own doing what he does, I’d be doing it the exact same way: with no apologies.
So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
on November 11th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Sorry Renee, I only smoke tobacco in my pipe. Not crackpot Islamophobe theories.
I’ve heard they taste quite terrible.
But have you ever actually read the Qu’ran? I’m guessing not.
So I won’t even deign to speak to you.
Have fun in your fear! And remember, don’t ever use algebra, the number zero, or a fountain in your garden: all of these, and more came from those mean, nasty, scary A-rabs!
on January 31st, 2012 at 11:08 pm
I am a shooting instructor and am strongly opposed to Keller’s views. Many of my students are liberals, A-rabs and by golly I even count as my students and friends black folk and them gay folks as well as a transgender gal. My students include Jewish, Muslim, Christian and even some reason-based atheists.
Shooting is a great activity, and many of my students have moral objections to shooting humans, even in self defense. My job is to teach shooting, and I keep politics out of it. I happily teach these voluntaryist type folks how to shoot. They have a blast! Shooting, like driving, is a great way to have fun with metallic machines… and like driving, some morons get behind the wheel and make other drivers look like uneducated statist Nazis.
I encourage y’all to find a top-tier shooting experience opportunity offered by someone that has earned an international reputation and does not hate based on one’s choice of religious delusions, national heritage or political leanings. Try a good instructor like Massad Ayoob, Clint Smith, me or Andrew Massimilian of Manhattan Shooting Excursions. My company is shootinjh.com.
on February 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I read the first comment in this string and skipped all the others. It’s too bad that author has so many misspellings that the accusation of Mr. Keller be an inbred hillbilly of some sort just doesn’t ring true. Git a edjukashun, Boy!
Every business has the right to decline patronage or to deny service to whomever they may choose. The Farmer’s Market on S. Cooper in Arlington, TX made national news for exactly that, denying service to two women wearing burkhas–full face coverage and flowing robes (concealing what?).
Be thankful that we have the right to arm ourselves against those who mean us harm and attempt to govern us into submission.
Call not the man a fool who was charged by dogs twice and bitten by a third who then arms himself as he sees fit. Leashing the dog with ignorance and an inability to bite serves peaceable ends far better than terminal violence against it.
on August 1st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Mr. Crockett will not lose his license to teach handgun classes. There is “nothing” in Texas law regulating instructors as to who they can and cannot teach. All Texas law states in regards to certified instructors is they must teach the approved class and materials approved by the Texas legislature. It says nothing about an instructor not having the right to refuse anyone from his class. Trust me, he knew this before making that radio ad and probably checked with lawyers first. He will win.