“So how did this tract get into your church to start? Did it magically appear?”

These tracts are usually bought in bulk with several titles included. Depending on where the church bought them, it’s possible that this was the only Chick tract in the lot. Of course, we’ll never know since the church didn’t respond to the SPLC’s request for comments.

I think that many of the comments here including my earlier ones show how difficult it is to really see Chick Publications as a hate group. Because someone could not come up with a better satire of ultrafundamentalist Christians if you tried, its difficult to remember that Jack T. Chick is actually being serious and people actually believe what he is saying.

And really, anyone who doubts that Chick Publications is a hate group, should take a look at how stereotypical the Chick Tracts aimed at ethnic audiences are. Oh my!

Sorry to change the subject on you guys…Jack Chick’s comics are a farce unto themselves and makes for a good laugh. Anything that comes out of that guy’s piehole is not to be taken serious. We here in the U.S.A. will always have our own crazy nut-job extremists like they have over in the Middle East. Chick is probably the milder of the bunch. As long as he keeps publishing..we can keep an eye on him. It’s the individuals that go around in secret are the ones you have to watch out for:

http://www.deathandtaxes.com/?p=16

Oxford University last night launched an investigation into claims that Tory students sang a ‘despicable’ song celebrating Nazi massacres during meetings.

Members of the university’s Conservative Association were alleged to have given renditions of the song that revels in the killing of Jews during ‘port and policy’ nights.

One member of the Conservative Association, who declined to be named, told the Oxford Student newspaper: ‘Lots of people were singing it that night, and indeed on many other nights, and the general attitude is that that was OK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....quiry.html

It’s all right here on his site: http://www.chick.com/reading/books/150/150cont.asp

This side has the out-of-print comic “Lisa” on it. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jack_Chick

Prepare to be horrified.

Check it out, and then let’s recirculate it again!

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/Joe.htm

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Heaven’s Girl was a series of fictional writings and illustrations from the late 1980s compiled in book-form and written for children in The Family International, aka Children of God. The lead character, Marie Claire, was based on David Berg’s granddaughter, Merry “Mene” Berg. The story was supposed to take place during the “Great Tribulation”, prophecied by Berg to begin in 1989. Merry would have been in her mid teens at that time. This was taught to children as being the “true future”.

The book, Heaven’s Girl, depicts a young, very scantily clad “Endtime prophetess” with supernatural powers. She was touted as a role model for children, and her exploits include giving sex freely to soldiers that were gang-raping her, and exchanging sex for favors.

In the excerpt below she is gang-raped by soldiers before being fed to lions and uses her rape as an opportunity to show “God’s Love”

http://www.xfamily.org/index.p.....Family_Art

http://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Heaven%27s_Girl

Basically this father is molesting his daughter, and his family doctor, a Christian, informs the father that he knows what’s going on. He “witnesses” to the father, who confesses his sins and converts to True Christianity. Now let that sink in for a moment. The good Christian doctor, who knew the father was molesting his daughters, didn’t contact the police. In fact he never does. The dad converts and we’re expected to believe that he just stops molesting them. Yup.

Anyway, if Chick tracts teach us anything, it’s that hell is full of extraordinarily intelligent and generous people who are being punished for not accepting Chick’s wacky beliefs, whereas heaven is loaded with murderers, rapists, and other scum who converted at the 11th hour just like in his tracts.

Oh yeah, Chick also believes magic is real.

Seriously, people, if anything conservatives should be grateful that so few of their groups are labeled hate groups, considering how common their attacks on gay people, Latinos, and religious minorities are.

But on topic, Jack Chick’s tracts are some of the funniest stuff I’ve ever read. I have a weird sense of humor, though, so I may just be me. “Angels?” is my all-time favorite.

I also have a very hard time believing that this church didn’t look at the tracts they were handing out. IMO, they knew exactly what they were handing out, and when called out, tried to backpedal and claim ignorance.

And yes, Ruslan, I’ve noticed the same thing you have. It’s curious that people are so quick to defend the right-wing (against a mountain of solid evidence) but accuse liberal or moderate groups of hate when all they’re doing is pointing out facts.

“OH YEAH?! WHAT ABOUT ALL THE HATEFUL THINGS THEM LIBRULS SAY? WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE LEFT-WING TERRORISTS?”

Yet when asked for proof, they disappear like ninjas.

Wow. Just… wow. You really think this is happening? Anywhere? There is a fundamental difference between “teaching kids not to discriminate against others” and “promoting gender confusion” – the mere fact that you’re conflating the two tells me a lot about your sources of information.

I remember one where the devil was sitting in hell talking about how happy he was at the popularity of the “Dark Shawdows” television soap opera (obviously Satan was a producer of the show) and the show was spreading his message. Some were pretty evil and mean-spirited.

It is interesting to note that the religious zealots have not given up on the “scary little comic book” aspect of proselytizing.

Everything I listed came directly from Chick Tracts – what does it tell you about Conservatives that they consider it to be “hateful” and “intolerant” to have a liberal accurately portray what a Conservative says?

And sweetie, since you are apparently slow, I actually luv Jack T. Chick and his Chick Tracts. If you have any knowledge of what Jesus of Nazareth actually taught and any sense of humor at all, you can see that Jack T. Chick is actually like a living version of one of his characters. While Jack T. Chick constantly looks for ways that Satan will fool people into following him rather than God, he fails to see that he has been fooled – probably by a way too cute to be scary cartoon Devil holding a pitchfork who disguised himself as a ultra fundamentalist Christian – into using his talents to spread hatred against, well pretty much everyone.

William, the education in the schools about gays is necessary to educate ignorants like you that teaches intolerance to children.

So how did this tract get into your church to start? Did it magically appear? Did one of your subordinates slip it into the tract rack? Someone in that church knew exactly what that tract was before a single copy ever went out the door. Pastor, you need to shepherd your flock!

Every religion believes what you identified. If you are Muslim, you must follow the teachings of Muhammed. If you are Catholic, you must abide by the sacraments and confess. If you are Church of Christ, you must be baptized. If you are Baptist, you must be born again. You name the religion and they “espouse” a way to get to Heaven, God, Allah, whatever that excludes every other religion. That does not make them a hate group.

The hate is when the group, religion, person starts espousing violence towards others with their message. I do not see that in most religions of today and not in this article.

My point is to call it what it is. Both extremism and hate may be wrong. But it doesn’t mean they are interchangeable. Just like murder and rape are both wrong but you wouldn’t call a “rapist” a “murderer”. You call it what it is. In this case, my opinion, SPLC is calling religious extremism a hate group. There is a difference.