I’m not having any trouble “comprehending” your position, I’m just not buying it. Let’s recap a couple of your comments:

“… The Islamic religion and the Muslim people are the fastest growing race and religion around the world right now especially in Europe.”

Several people, including me, pointed out the serious fallacy in that statement. You responded with:

“DM, I guess that was a misstatement on my part , but I think you get the gist of my meaning.”

I wouldn’t call it a “misstatement,” I’d call it a Freudian slip. The “gist” that I get is the underlying prejudice that equates Islam with “other races” that don’t belong in “our” Europe — oh, sorry, I keep forgetting, you’re an American. (And since I’m revisiting this comment, I’ll also point out that there’s widespread disagreement on the question of which religion is the world’s fastest-growing, in part because statistics on religious affiliation are notoriously unreliable.)

As for those links you posted, they aren’t “proof” of anything except your anti-Muslim animus. Indeed, they suggest that you’re more Geert Wilders’ advocate than the devil’s. And you lose all credibility by lining up with the Christian Action Network, a crazily Christian-right group founded by one of Jerry Falwell’s former associates. (There’s a nice summary about their anti-Muslim campaign at http://www.talk2action.org/sto.....122325/799.)

In short, propaganda is not evidence. So I’m sticking with my assertion that all talk about the “threat” of shari’a is fantasy, whether it’s pure paranoia or part of a deliberate attempt to whip up anti-Muslim passions.

Many who look favorably on Sharia law don’t necessarily want it to be the law of the land; they would just like the option. However as immigrants come to the west, they typically reject the traditions of their home countries.

Some people would also prefer it to rain soda pop and snow chocolate flakes.

But preference does not lead to reality.

Your circular logic is bordering on lunacy.

Yes , one is Hannity but you asked for proof .
http://www.military.com/video/.....940716001/

http://homelandsecurityus.com/.....th-america

http://www.nationalterroralert.....nd-the-us/

Ruslan Amirkhanov , I am aware of that also . Not all Muslim people want to live under Sharia law anymore than people in the United States , but I’m sure some would welcome the chance .

PLEASE, tell us: Why haven’t you reported these camps to law enforcement?

By the way, “Muslim people” is not a race.

Many useful idiots are aiding the radicals because they want to avoid the label of islamophobe. There is nothing courageous or moral about defending those who want to kill you. Radical Muslims are recruiting in our prisons and military. They have a conference in Chicago each year since 2008 to plan our overthrow. Militant training camps have been in the US for some time now and they operate with virtual immpunity lest the authorities be accused of discrimination. Look it up. I do all my “proving” in my articles. Look them up. This format is a commentary post. I regret that I cannot write major articles here but I would be wasting my research on a substantial number of closed minds.

Some people would love to have Sharia law installed into the legal system . I’m simply saying to do so will have greater ramifications later down the road if they did . I also brought up the violation of civil rights if they did .
Go back and re-read what I said earlier ” I said let me play the devils advocate for a minute ” .

Do I think Sharia law will be brought into the American system , no I do not for many reasons one being what I have already said , and two being our elected are window licking idiots and can’t handle the pressure .

Wait a moment. Did you just call Muslim people a ‘race?’

I think I’ll be able to find your credibility in the same place as Dick Lancaster’s…

I’m getting the impression from your posts that English is not your first language. Pardon me if I’m mistaken, but it would also suggest an explanation for why you seem unable to understand the U.S. legal system.

The imposition of shari’a here would require not only the abrogation of the Constitution but also the abandonment of the whole federal and state courts system and the unemployment of all of the nation’s judges and lawyers. (I know, some people would consider the latter a good thing, but let’s stay serious here.) I don’t know how many American judges you’ve met, but they generally are people who take even less well than average to having other people usurp their decision-making prerogatives. So that’s one more reason why the whole notion of shari’a being imposed here is just paranoid fantasy.

on November 18th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

Lucifer,

Dick has absolutely zero credibility here. And since all he really does is make up stories, I think we’re safe.

Actually Dick brings up a valid point, The Islamic religion and the Muslim people are the fastest growing race and religion around the world right now especially in Europe.
When a group grows in faith and population it’s a fact that they are going to push for more.

So Dick does make a valid point in that matter. Also a person cannot deny the increase in the “home grown ” activities going on here along with the influx of American foreign fighters now in Somalia shows a propensity.

Dick has absolutely zero credibility here. And since all he really does is make up stories, I think we’re safe.

And so long as there are no threats, as I said before, there is nothing criminal.

Really , how about that ” Patriot Act ‘ . And that little law thats used now called ” Making terrorist threats ” . A lot have been jailed under that for ” just words ” .

Speaking of ” just words ” how about the assasination of American citizens in Yemen for ” just words ‘ .

They can ‘plan’ to do whatever they want. So long as they don’t carry out anything, there’s nothing wrong. They’re words.

Speaking of just words, how ’bout them terrorist training camps?

The Constitution is moot when the suits deem it so . Past and present presidents are proof of that . All of them have violated it in one form or another .

Politicians are like children , you give them an inch and they’ll take a foot .

Since 2008 radical Muslims have met in Chicago to openly plan the destruction of the US. You don’t hear about it because the media doesn’t report it. Better to allow the planning of the destruction of the US than to rerport it and be called an “Islamophobe.” This is the mentality of a lefist media.

And for the umpteenth time, there is NO separation of church and state in the constitution. That phrase came out of a Thomas Jefferson letter. The First Amendment intent was to prevent the ESTABLISHMENT of a state religion such as the Church of England or, in contemporary times, sharia law. This is PRECISELY what radical Islam REQUIRES.

What is the SPLC , ACLU , NAACO , SCLC , or any of the other ” Civil Rights ” organizations and other groups that ” keep a watchful eye on ” hate groups ” going to do when and if ” Shariah Law ” is allowed on our soil and the first Muslim homosexual is dragged out into the street and stoned or beheaded . Or what is going to be done when the first ” honor killing ” has taken place because a young Muslim girl wanted to go to the prom with non-Muslim . Or said Muslim girl gets pregnant out of marriage . And God forbid the wife gets jiggy with her boss while the husband is on a business trip .

Don’t say it doesn’t happen because it does . I’ve been to a few Muslim countries that have ” Shariah law ” and it takes place . Once we have allowed it in , it’s here to stay .

Also , while we’re on the topic of ” Civil Rights ” , will Muslims will have the opportunity to pick between the American justice system or Shariah law .The typical non-Muslim American citizen will not have that liberty , so is that fair , I wouldn’t think so . Has anyone advocating for this considered that .

I stated earlier that our leaders can’t even enforce the laws we already have , and pick and choose which parts of the Constitution they like . Adding more to it is just going to be more infringement on our rights as citizens .

So my vote is ‘ hells to the no , leave Shariah law where it belongs ” , in Muslim countries where everyone can enjoy it . Lets stick to the ” Devils ” we know , that reside in DC .

in other words – just a scared little punk

Just brainstorming here but don’t you mean ILK . I don’t think Elk really care about religion , Shariah law , or the price of gas .

Just tossing this out here but if a person comes here to live , and they necome a citizen of this great county why would they want to revert back to the laws of a county they left .

Apparently you skipped the notion that the SPLC was in fact founded by Jewish civil rights attorney and has listed several black as well as some jewish nationalist hate groups, but reading and researching beyond the level of a dyslexic kindergardener must be a frustrating and disheartening reality, so I won’t hold it against you for not being able to find this!

“They label anyone as being “far-right” if they have the brain cells to see just how much Socialist, Marxist, and Islamist garbage the SPLC shovels around…”

Ahh, yes, or rather being able to call them (far-right) for what exactly they are and harbor, which isn’t anything resembling functioning brain cells or common decency. Islamism as you describe is in fact closer to the authoritarian, reactionary babel your spewing right now, and socialism and marxism are some desperately empty ad hominems to utilize in the Age of Obama; would you care to define or specify what you think and than what they actually mean?

I’m a member of the “far-right.” The SPLC are members of the “far-gone.”

Yes, ‘far gone’ in putting the disorderly status quo back under the rule of law and winning justified lawsuits to innocent victims of their destructive and incoherent worldviews. Too bad the same can’t be said for the objective retardation present in the preceeding comment.

“I don’t know under what rocks they live, but these lowlifes who crack on concerned Americans would easily raise their IQ’s by100 points if they could just kept their bigoted grills shut – although they would still have minus signs preceding their quotients.”

How you could view such ‘rocks’ is easily explicable if one’s own mind is a metaphorical wet match in the bowels of the darkest cave. Of course, we’re all ‘concerned’ Americans, but those of us with manifest I.Q.’s above 100 believe and try to abide by decency, respect and due process in having (actual) issue and concerns addressed. You see, sincerity and emotional appeal in propagating what are objective lies, half-truths and misperceptions doesn’t make you a ‘concerned’ American as much as a demagogue and sociopathic liar in need of psychiatric attention. Pointing it out is actually the initial sign of existing intelligence, denouncing it suggests morals of a sort, and rampant denialism is probably the knee-jerk kicking of the medically-defined ‘ mentally retarded.’

“But, hey, I do admire their abiliity to type while dragging ther knucles along the ground.”

As you should! It was of course you and your elk’s retrograde genes and anatomy that made it a de facto evolutionary option and complimentary style to stay such a way. As long as we keep you from all those socialist/marxist concepts of car keys, sharp objects, large sums of money and any sort of electoral position of authority, I think we can keep you admirably confined to the comment section on an Internet forum, where you can be a real performance artist for us to pity and fearless at!

Allow me to do it for you and advise you to stay away from all sharp objects, car keys and any sum of money to boot! For those that still subscribe to the Obama birther/muslim fringe-ology at this time (while insisting on their inactual ‘anti-racism’), an insanity asylum separate from productive society is only too good a resolution for them. Oh, and ‘Kemp’? Hmmm, that sounds awfully similar to a truly apocalyptic and scary book I once heard of, but I can’t recall its complete title or author…