Comments on: Facing Controversy, Anti-Muslim Preacher Tones Down Criticism http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Mon, 20 May 2013 23:01:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Dick Lancaster http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-345598 Dick Lancaster Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:25:47 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8196#comment-345598 Can we take Ingle off the hate list now? He seems like such a nice guy. Can we take Ingle off the hate list now? He seems like such a nice guy.

]]> By: greg http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-345528 greg Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:42:44 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8196#comment-345528 just read your bibles and see what color Jesus was we didnt do it it was God that brought Him in the world.Read daniel 1 and Revevalation 1 it said his hair was wool and His skin was bronze colored we didnt say it or do it it is the truth and you cant handle the truth.Something most peopl of color never was told.Do you really think you could of handled the sun in th desrt?Your skin would of crumbled like snake skin. just read your bibles and see what color Jesus was we didnt do it it was God that brought Him in the world.Read daniel 1 and Revevalation 1 it said his hair was wool and His skin was bronze colored we didnt say it or do it it is the truth and you cant handle the truth.Something most peopl of color never was told.Do you really think you could of handled the sun in th desrt?Your skin would of crumbled like snake skin.

]]> By: tyrone mixon http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-345509 tyrone mixon Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:14:30 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8196#comment-345509 I wonder if these people keep up with current events? Do they know hard line Muslims have zero problem with ending their life as well as that of their intended target? Or do they wanna die? Like that clown down in Florida who was gonna burn that Koran on tv. Man did I want to see that. I gave him 24 hours to live after that stunt. I wonder if these people keep up with current events? Do they know hard line Muslims have zero problem with ending their life as well as that of their intended target? Or do they wanna die?

Like that clown down in Florida who was gonna burn that Koran on tv. Man did I want to see that. I gave him 24 hours to live after that stunt.

]]> By: Blast Dorrough http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-345473 Blast Dorrough Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:16:15 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8196#comment-345473 The charlatanry of such demonic religious "leaders" is the obvious fact that they don't have any more "knowledge" about the will of God than a three-year old. The examination of the Bible made by Thomas Paine in "The Age of Reason---The Complete Edition" proves that God had nothing to do with that allegedly "inspired Word of God" in utter blasphemy of God. Such demonic 'leaders" of Christiancraft have eaten too many dung cakes. In Ezekiel, Chapter 4, line 12, the prophet Ezekiel says that God ordered him to eat "barley cakes...with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight." God gave humankind reason, not man-invented religion based on blind "faith". Such blasphemy of God is evidenced all through the Bible. . The charlatanry of such demonic religious “leaders” is the obvious fact that they don’t have any more “knowledge” about the will of God than a three-year old. The examination of the Bible made by Thomas Paine in “The Age of Reason—The Complete Edition” proves that God had nothing to do with that allegedly “inspired Word of God” in utter blasphemy of God. Such demonic ‘leaders” of Christiancraft have eaten too many dung cakes. In Ezekiel, Chapter 4, line 12, the prophet Ezekiel says that God ordered him to eat “barley cakes…with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.” God gave humankind reason, not man-invented religion based on blind “faith”. Such blasphemy of God is evidenced all through the Bible. .

]]> By: Alan Aardman http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-345046 Alan Aardman Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:58:26 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8196#comment-345046 It sounds as though Engle has seen what kind of company he would be keeping and has gone back to mainstream conservatism. It sounds as though Engle has seen what kind of company he would be keeping and has gone back to mainstream conservatism.

]]> By: CM http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-344537 CM Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:59:23 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8196#comment-344537 One of the things that regularly bugs me about anti-Muslim preaching is the claim that Islam isn't really a religion, it's a political philosophy. Well, what are we to make of these declarations from the "Statement of Faith" of the International Coalition of Apostles, a group of leaders in this "apostolic" movement that Engle subscribes to: "We believe that all authority and dominion flows from Jesus Christ who has delegated His authority to various governmental spheres among men, including self, family, church, corporate and civil. ... We believe that no public official or corporate officer can function effectively without the knowledge of God’s will as revealed in His Word. His every purpose must be to establish or further the Kingdom of Jesus on earth. "... the eldership of the Church, whose function is to cooperate in spiritually equipping and activating believers for effective service in every sphere of life, including the marketplace, political, education, media, arts, family and church. The work of the eldership is to establish spiritual unity and the priesthood of all believers in Christ. Their objective is to establish the Kingdom of God on earth." This is theocracy, not theology. As far as the latter is concerned, Engle sounds more like some sort of Gnostic cultist than an orthodox Christian, with his talk about "the ultimate conflict of light and darkness." I'd expect a genuine Christian to know this, for example: "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." (Jn. 18:36) And this: "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." (Lk. 17:20-21) One of the things that regularly bugs me about anti-Muslim preaching is the claim that Islam isn’t really a religion, it’s a political philosophy. Well, what are we to make of these declarations from the “Statement of Faith” of the International Coalition of Apostles, a group of leaders in this “apostolic” movement that Engle subscribes to:

“We believe that all authority and dominion flows from Jesus Christ who has delegated His authority to various governmental spheres among men, including self, family, church, corporate and civil. … We believe that no public official or corporate officer can function effectively without the knowledge of God’s will as revealed in His Word. His every purpose must be to establish or further the Kingdom of Jesus on earth.

“… the eldership of the Church, whose function is to cooperate in spiritually equipping and activating believers for effective service in every sphere of life, including the marketplace, political, education, media, arts, family and church. The work of the eldership is to establish spiritual unity and the priesthood of all believers in Christ. Their objective is to establish the Kingdom of God on earth.”

This is theocracy, not theology. As far as the latter is concerned, Engle sounds more like some sort of Gnostic cultist than an orthodox Christian, with his talk about “the ultimate conflict of light and darkness.” I’d expect a genuine Christian to know this, for example:

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (Jn. 18:36)

And this:

“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Lk. 17:20-21)

]]> By: James http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-344278 James Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:30:43 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8196#comment-344278 Lou engle sees himself as some sort of prophet, well there are many false prophets and lou engle is one among many, lou engle is an intolerant, meglomanic redneck and there was nothing Godly at his convention or whatever it was...I pity all the people there and hope they find the truth. Lou engle sees himself as some sort of prophet, well there are many false prophets and lou engle is one among many, lou engle is an intolerant, meglomanic redneck and there was nothing Godly at his convention or whatever it was…I pity all the people there and hope they find the truth.

]]> By: Aron http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/11/14/facing-controversy-anti-muslim-preacher-tones-down-criticism/comment-page-1/#comment-344269 Aron Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:08:42 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8196#comment-344269 The Lord is coming? Damn. I better hide all of my bacon and replace it with beef fry. LOL The Lord is coming? Damn. I better hide all of my bacon and replace it with beef fry.

LOL

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