Perhaps Mr Gheen could provide some examples of this type of atrocity by those he is demonizing. It would seem to me that most incidents that fit this particular definition are occurring south of the border.

Your latest comment just serves to illustrate the point I made about “demonizing immigrants with false statistics and other damned lies.” You appear to be irremediably entrenched in your terrifying fantasies about dark invaders. It must be awful to live in that kind of fear. I urge you to get professional help.

Aside from the thousands of deaths caused each year by the illegal aliens you support against your fellow Americans, millions of American jobs and billions in depreciated wages are lost causing Americans hardships in many terrible ways your team seems to be oblivious of.

Your team, the pro amnesty and pro illegal alien invasion side, are the ones that tied to make the unfortunate and tragic death of Joaquin Luna Jr a political issue. You are the ones that rushed to try to make him into a child martyr for your cause. And thankfully the police announced that your claims were a crock and no such documentation existed in the letters!

The real tragedy here is that many of you have played up the death of Joaquin Luna Jr so much that you have glorified it and exalted this incident as if he is a martyr sacrificing for your cause.

By doing so you have greatly increased the chances that a kid that really has been supporting the Dream Act Amnesty is going to kill themselves to satisfy your desires to use dead children to support your invasion of America.

And if or when that happens, the blood of that child will be on the hands of each of you that tried to gain political points off the dead corpse of Joaquin Luna Jr.

Adults like you trying to manipulate these illegal alien kids for your agenda is just wrong and you got burned for doing it this time. Hopefully you will stop doing that.

Well, no, it was not obvious, or they would not have done so. Perhaps the Lunas were already in an untenable situation before they decided to come to the U.S. Without knowing more about their circumstances, how could anyone judge their character so harshly?

Juan Rangel basically said almost everything I would have written in response to your last comment. I would just add that since you seem to be incapable of the kind of self-examination I recommended before, maybe you can at least try reading the last paragraph of Ms. Nelson’s post, which you apparently missed the first time around:

“The fact is that while no one but Luna can say what role, if any, his immigration status played in his decision to commit suicide, there’s no reason to think that his family members lied when they said he was depressed over the limitations he faced because of it. What matters ultimately is that his family lost a son – and no circumstance, political motive, or evidence can justify nativist groups’ attack on the Lunas in their time of deepest sorrow.”

“My soul is full of love and I am quite confident that my cause is just and those of you here at the SPLC are a bunch of evil liars that are directly supportive of the mass murder of Americans by the illegal aliens you support.”

Then you clearly state: “And I do truly pray that the Lord will make you pay one day. Thou shalt not bear false witness.”

I don’t know if you are aware of your own contradictions but wishing someone the worst(SPLC supporters) or demonizing illegal immigrants for all of your efforts does not make your case “just” or having a wonderful soul. How can you claim to have a loving soul when there are shadows of “prejudice” and dislike for others?

“You liars at the SPLC have defamed me extensively and done your very best to misconstrue anything I say. All of my writings and public appearances calling for peaceful political involvement by Americans of all races working together willfully excluded from your attacks.

Whether my current organization continues or not, I will fight you liars at the SPLC till the day I die.”

These are clearly your own words, and no one is miscontruing anything.

Again, these words don’t sound peaceful at all but rather menacing and almost as a warning.

One kid committed suicide and his life and dreams were shattered. But instead of just keeping quiet and giving his family time to mourn and grieve. You rather use his death to further promote your own sick and twisted “just” cause.

With a loving soul like that. You are surely closer to heaven and sainthood.

Me? I rather be on the side of those who are always maligned and are going to hell according to your own words. Illegal aliens are taking being scapegoated for everything nowadays that it has become almost the fad.

Therefore, the blame for this suicide can be laid squarely at their own feet.

THAT SAID, the family does deserve sympathy for their loss. NOBODY should have to outlive their child, regardless of the circumstances.

Work out the legal details later. Now is the time to be decent human beings and let them grieve in peace.

Gheen, you’re a baldfaced liar. You WERE commenting about the family.

The truth of the matter here is that a large portion of those of you in the pro Dream Act Amnesty camp tried to use this kid’s tragic death to further your failed legislation.

In this case, you got busted trying to float a case where there is no evidence that Dream Act legislation failure was the reason for the suicide.

You are the ones increasing the risk that a kid that really is involved in supporting Amnesty is going to kill themselves to satisfy your desire for a child martyr.

You liars at the SPLC have defamed me extensively and done your very best to misconstrue anything I say. All of my writings and public appearances calling for peaceful political involvement by Americans of all races working together willfully excluded from your attacks.

Whether my current organization continues or not, I will fight you liars at the SPLC till the day I die.

I can see clearly now that one of America’s greatest problems is a few groups like the SPLC that malign innocent Americans trying to engage on difficult political issues.

You’ve done such a good job lying to people about what I say and what I stand for that you have stirred plenty of folks up that want to kill me and harm my family.

You are guilty of doing to me and others what you claim the SPLC and ADL are supposed to stand against!

And I do truly pray that the Lord will make you pay one day. Thou shalt not bear false witness.

My soul is full of love and I am quite confident that my cause is just and those of you here at the SPLC are a bunch of evil liars that are directly supportive of the mass murder of Americans by the illegal aliens you support.

In fact, what I have in mind for my next project will likely deal with you more directly.. POLITICALLY <—- Just putting that in there before you go running off lying again claiming I threatened you in some inappropriate way.

Humbug. Your comments were meant to exploit this family’s loss to advance your own bigoted agenda.

Remember your “if it even was a suicide”?

Your comment here is almost as hypocritical as Mehlman’s claim to “empathize” with Luna while accusing his parents of causing the whole thing. If any of you were capable of real empathy, you wouldn’t be out there demonizing immigrants with false statistics and other damned lies. You need to take a long, deep look into your own spiteful soul.

That sure isn’t what your words sounded like. Considering you blamed the parents for bringing the child into the US…

I hope your organization finally does fail like you’ve been warning. It is simply a disgrace.

Illegal aliens are people, too.