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	<title>Comments on: Coming Full Circle: FEMA Camp Theory Gains Traction on Far Left</title>
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		<title>By: Denny Gregg</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-1778535</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 08:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Camille Marino, who runs the hard-left animal liberation website&quot; I was viewing a UFO-TV film on YOU-TUBE recently and at the end of it they showed a short film on what is going on in the corporate animal farms in the USA. Frankly it&#039;s highly disgusting brutality that I never knew was going on. I can relate to Camille Marino feelings. I&#039;ve always been a meat eater without too much thought to how pigs, cattle, and chickens are harvested for human and pet consumption. I&#039;m highly tempted to stop or drastically reduce my meat consumption. Or if I could only buy these products from family farms, and stay clear of corporate farm products sold in the super markets. If you watch this film displaying a torture chamber of horrors for these animals, you&#039;d be disgusted. The human race has never been more cold---they slaughter their own by the millions in wars, and torture and waste countless billions of helpless animals for over consumption and profit by fat human slobs. I&#039;ve never been more ashamed of being human. Is there really a compassionate God? I&#039;m not so sure!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Camille Marino, who runs the hard-left animal liberation website&#8221; I was viewing a UFO-TV film on YOU-TUBE recently and at the end of it they showed a short film on what is going on in the corporate animal farms in the USA. Frankly it&#8217;s highly disgusting brutality that I never knew was going on. I can relate to Camille Marino feelings. I&#8217;ve always been a meat eater without too much thought to how pigs, cattle, and chickens are harvested for human and pet consumption. I&#8217;m highly tempted to stop or drastically reduce my meat consumption. Or if I could only buy these products from family farms, and stay clear of corporate farm products sold in the super markets. If you watch this film displaying a torture chamber of horrors for these animals, you&#8217;d be disgusted. The human race has never been more cold&#8212;they slaughter their own by the millions in wars, and torture and waste countless billions of helpless animals for over consumption and profit by fat human slobs. I&#8217;ve never been more ashamed of being human. Is there really a compassionate God? I&#8217;m not so sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Wzrd1</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-379526</link>
		<dc:creator>Wzrd1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! ONE person finally unmasked the grand conspiracy of silence.
With the mention of the funding bill and the 10 foot razor wire topped fence.
After all, leaving FEMA warehouses in only a few locations, slowly decaying with age and understocked because the population has steadily increased, while the warehouses didn&#039;t increase is OBVIOUSLY a grand concentration plot!
I&#039;ve personally BEEN IN FEMA warehouses, they&#039;re few and far between, yet demands for their contents have increased year by global climate change year.
But, it&#039;s all a grand conspiracy of the space aliens, deflected off of the light of Venus or something, not the simplest facts that are readily available.
DOES FEMA operate camps? Absolutely! In a disaster, people need a place to live, get medical care, food and safe water. I guess some groups think that the only good American in a disaster is a homeless and dying American! That local communities can overcome a major earthquake that leveled their community, the flooded community can cope with that flood that washed the community away, the burned down community can cope with the massive firestorm from the forest, the blown away community can easily handle the mile wide tornado that erased most of the community.
All because they&#039;re paranoid schizophrenics that refuse to seek professional medical assistance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! ONE person finally unmasked the grand conspiracy of silence.<br />
With the mention of the funding bill and the 10 foot razor wire topped fence.<br />
After all, leaving FEMA warehouses in only a few locations, slowly decaying with age and understocked because the population has steadily increased, while the warehouses didn&#8217;t increase is OBVIOUSLY a grand concentration plot!<br />
I&#8217;ve personally BEEN IN FEMA warehouses, they&#8217;re few and far between, yet demands for their contents have increased year by global climate change year.<br />
But, it&#8217;s all a grand conspiracy of the space aliens, deflected off of the light of Venus or something, not the simplest facts that are readily available.<br />
DOES FEMA operate camps? Absolutely! In a disaster, people need a place to live, get medical care, food and safe water. I guess some groups think that the only good American in a disaster is a homeless and dying American! That local communities can overcome a major earthquake that leveled their community, the flooded community can cope with that flood that washed the community away, the burned down community can cope with the massive firestorm from the forest, the blown away community can easily handle the mile wide tornado that erased most of the community.<br />
All because they&#8217;re paranoid schizophrenics that refuse to seek professional medical assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-375713</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwiwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Concerned Citizen, you are making the claim that there are conspiracies by our government, so you have to prove your case. That&#039;s the way it works. We&#039;ve already done our term papers -- we don&#039;t have to do yours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Concerned Citizen, you are making the claim that there are conspiracies by our government, so you have to prove your case. That&#8217;s the way it works. We&#8217;ve already done our term papers &#8212; we don&#8217;t have to do yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Beales</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-375380</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch Beales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concerned about a certain citizens mental health.  ...leftist convinced...there is no government copnspiracies...should proof that there are conspiracie...?  Twin towels?  NVC?

The government is indeed &quot;conspiring&quot; to house people who are displaced by natural disasters in FEMA camps.  You might prefer the Superdome but the Saints want to march in there and play ball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerned about a certain citizens mental health.  &#8230;leftist convinced&#8230;there is no government copnspiracies&#8230;should proof that there are conspiracie&#8230;?  Twin towels?  NVC?</p>
<p>The government is indeed &#8220;conspiring&#8221; to house people who are displaced by natural disasters in FEMA camps.  You might prefer the Superdome but the Saints want to march in there and play ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-375320</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a question. Since many of you leftist are so convinced that there is no government conspiracies of housing people in FEMA camps. Maybe. The left should proof that there are conspiracies by our government, In other words. Show us the money. By the way! did our governenment blew up the Twin Towels in NVC om 9/11? 
I would like to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a question. Since many of you leftist are so convinced that there is no government conspiracies of housing people in FEMA camps. Maybe. The left should proof that there are conspiracies by our government, In other words. Show us the money. By the way! did our governenment blew up the Twin Towels in NVC om 9/11?<br />
I would like to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Beales</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-375207</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch Beales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!  Some of the comments on this thread make me want to grab my tinfoil hat.  This one has really brought out the crazies.  On the off chance that Todzzgod is simply misinformed HR 645 makes no mention of 10 ft. fences topped with razor wire although it does provide funding for National Emergency Centers on military installations.  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve ever seen a &quot;military installation&quot; that wasn&#039;t surrounded by a 10 ft. fence topped with barbed wire.  Also Section 1031 of the National Defense Authorization Act signed on Sunday by the president states the following, &quot;(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.&quot;  If American citizens can be detained indefinitely by the military that sucks but Section 1031e is going to make it tough to blame the black man for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Some of the comments on this thread make me want to grab my tinfoil hat.  This one has really brought out the crazies.  On the off chance that Todzzgod is simply misinformed HR 645 makes no mention of 10 ft. fences topped with razor wire although it does provide funding for National Emergency Centers on military installations.  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve ever seen a &#8220;military installation&#8221; that wasn&#8217;t surrounded by a 10 ft. fence topped with barbed wire.  Also Section 1031 of the National Defense Authorization Act signed on Sunday by the president states the following, &#8220;(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.&#8221;  If American citizens can be detained indefinitely by the military that sucks but Section 1031e is going to make it tough to blame the black man for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-370814</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwiwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t mince words, Chris, do tell us what you really think about black people. My only question is, which is greater in you...your hatred of them or fear of them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t mince words, Chris, do tell us what you really think about black people. My only question is, which is greater in you&#8230;your hatred of them or fear of them?</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-370540</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, do you really want to go there? I can pull up stories of whites killing people or acting like animals throughout the U.S. such as the white dude who butchered a 9 year old girl who he babysat in Indiana
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079419/Aliahna-Lemmon-murder-Killer-babysitter-Michael-Plumadore-poses-cameras.html

... or the white woman who killed 5 people then herself in North Carolina

http://www.wbtv.com/story/16113097/5th-person-dies-in-shootings-after-jilted-love-affair?clienttype=printable

...or the white guy in Sacramento, California that was convicted of felony animal cruelty for the sexual abuse of a dog

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/12/25/parolee-convicted-of-sex-abuse-against-chihuahua/

...or the white elementary school janitor in Jefferson County, Missouri who raped a 9 year old girl

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/festus-elementary-janitor-charged-with-raping--year-old-girl/article_ebb59936-2bf3-11e1-8916-0019bb30f31a.html

I can go on and on. Bottom line, people of all colors, nationalities, and creeds can act like deviants. Your ethnic makeup doesn&#039;t make one more or less moral than someone else. I do thank you for exposing what kind of person you - a waste of a sperm and an egg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, do you really want to go there? I can pull up stories of whites killing people or acting like animals throughout the U.S. such as the white dude who butchered a 9 year old girl who he babysat in Indiana</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079419/Aliahna-Lemmon-murder-Killer-babysitter-Michael-Plumadore-poses-cameras.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....meras.html</a></p>
<p>&#8230; or the white woman who killed 5 people then herself in North Carolina</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wbtv.com/story/16113097/5th-person-dies-in-shootings-after-jilted-love-affair?clienttype=printable" rel="nofollow">http://www.wbtv.com/story/1611.....=printable</a></p>
<p>&#8230;or the white guy in Sacramento, California that was convicted of felony animal cruelty for the sexual abuse of a dog</p>
<p><a href="http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/12/25/parolee-convicted-of-sex-abuse-against-chihuahua/" rel="nofollow">http://sacramento.cbslocal.com.....chihuahua/</a></p>
<p>&#8230;or the white elementary school janitor in Jefferson County, Missouri who raped a 9 year old girl</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/festus-elementary-janitor-charged-with-raping--year-old-girl/article_ebb59936-2bf3-11e1-8916-0019bb30f31a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stltoday.com/news/l.....0f31a.html</a></p>
<p>I can go on and on. Bottom line, people of all colors, nationalities, and creeds can act like deviants. Your ethnic makeup doesn&#8217;t make one more or less moral than someone else. I do thank you for exposing what kind of person you &#8211; a waste of a sperm and an egg.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Molloy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-370086</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 03:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve had Hitler, lynchers, financial schemers and literacy tests to vote. Possibly the people in Joplin were educated to respect each other, which should be the first thing taught in schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had Hitler, lynchers, financial schemers and literacy tests to vote. Possibly the people in Joplin were educated to respect each other, which should be the first thing taught in schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris Schulz,

Rappers at malls? The horror!!!

Thank you for at last exposing yourself for the racist we knew you to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Schulz,</p>
<p>Rappers at malls? The horror!!!</p>
<p>Thank you for at last exposing yourself for the racist we knew you to be.</p>
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		<title>By: chris schultz</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-369781</link>
		<dc:creator>chris schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A.D.M. 

Do you have an explanation as to why the rural poor who are predominately white in Iowa and through the midwest suffer through devastating floods, tornados, etc. but they do not loot and act like animals compared to say New Orleans.  If you have an answer I would like to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.D.M. </p>
<p>Do you have an explanation as to why the rural poor who are predominately white in Iowa and through the midwest suffer through devastating floods, tornados, etc. but they do not loot and act like animals compared to say New Orleans.  If you have an answer I would like to know.</p>
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		<title>By: chris schultz</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-369752</link>
		<dc:creator>chris schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A.D.M.

If race has nothing to do with it.  Then could you explain the recent mall riots over Jordans and rumors of rappers being at malls?  I can, tacit support for people who act like animals by progressive like yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.D.M.</p>
<p>If race has nothing to do with it.  Then could you explain the recent mall riots over Jordans and rumors of rappers being at malls?  I can, tacit support for people who act like animals by progressive like yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-369570</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I guess people who are stranded by natural disasters should just stay where they are and die of starvation, right, Chris Schultz? It doesn&#039;t matter what your skin color is. If you&#039;re starving and your starving, a will to live and survive will click on. But since you think only certain groups of people can act rambunctious, I guess explaining it to you would take a miracle.

As for the drug testing, what makes you think whites don&#039;t sell and use drugs? Drug use is higher among whites than other people and whites still take the bulk of welfare dollars, even though welfare usage is at all time lows. Oh, yeah, it&#039;s true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I guess people who are stranded by natural disasters should just stay where they are and die of starvation, right, Chris Schultz? It doesn&#8217;t matter what your skin color is. If you&#8217;re starving and your starving, a will to live and survive will click on. But since you think only certain groups of people can act rambunctious, I guess explaining it to you would take a miracle.</p>
<p>As for the drug testing, what makes you think whites don&#8217;t sell and use drugs? Drug use is higher among whites than other people and whites still take the bulk of welfare dollars, even though welfare usage is at all time lows. Oh, yeah, it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: chris schultz</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-368161</link>
		<dc:creator>chris schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 01:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert Carr,

If I recall, during the devastating floods in the midwest a couple of years ago, and the tornados in Joplin authorities did not have to use force.  I am sure that you will say that is a result of authorities being racist but I would argue that a more plausible scenario would be the fact that in Joplin and the midwest the population did not act like wild animals like they did in New Orleans.

As for drug testing, if I needed welfare aid or EBT assistance I would have no problem submitting to a drug test as I would be accepting others tax money, (of course this does not take into account my deep distrust and disdain for the government)  However, I would say most of the population in inner city hip hop flash mob population in Detroit, Atlanta, etc.  would not fair so well when taking a drug test.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Carr,</p>
<p>If I recall, during the devastating floods in the midwest a couple of years ago, and the tornados in Joplin authorities did not have to use force.  I am sure that you will say that is a result of authorities being racist but I would argue that a more plausible scenario would be the fact that in Joplin and the midwest the population did not act like wild animals like they did in New Orleans.</p>
<p>As for drug testing, if I needed welfare aid or EBT assistance I would have no problem submitting to a drug test as I would be accepting others tax money, (of course this does not take into account my deep distrust and disdain for the government)  However, I would say most of the population in inner city hip hop flash mob population in Detroit, Atlanta, etc.  would not fair so well when taking a drug test.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you will excuse me, I must add to the above.

The behavior of authorities against the victims of Hurricane Katrina, in New Orleans and elswhere, should have given anyone second thoughts about their purpose and ends.

And, I saw another story today about drug testing of any who receive government aid. I DO consider that TYRANNY.

If the law applies to all citizens (&#039;even the rich are forbidden to sleep under bridges&#039;), then ALL politicians and workers , those who have authority over us, who get a state or Fed wage , should be drug tested, with the usual punishments.

How about Rush Limbaugh? If he comes up positive, he&#039;s gone tomorrow!  Too bad, that when one is drug-tested, he must sign a waiver to accept false positives. Is that Tyranny worthy of this subject?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you will excuse me, I must add to the above.</p>
<p>The behavior of authorities against the victims of Hurricane Katrina, in New Orleans and elswhere, should have given anyone second thoughts about their purpose and ends.</p>
<p>And, I saw another story today about drug testing of any who receive government aid. I DO consider that TYRANNY.</p>
<p>If the law applies to all citizens (&#8216;even the rich are forbidden to sleep under bridges&#8217;), then ALL politicians and workers , those who have authority over us, who get a state or Fed wage , should be drug tested, with the usual punishments.</p>
<p>How about Rush Limbaugh? If he comes up positive, he&#8217;s gone tomorrow!  Too bad, that when one is drug-tested, he must sign a waiver to accept false positives. Is that Tyranny worthy of this subject?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nearly 15 years ago, during the Clinton administration, no less, I was alerted to a program that was being pushed, called Model States. I do belive the information came from the ACLU at the time, or else they knew of some details. 

The program was to be an emergecy measure, ala Stepen King&#039;s &#039;The Stand&#039; for all the same reasons,and with similar results, such as confiscation of fuel , food , firearms, etc.

I wondered if it had been folded into the Patriot Act. I do have the recent Crooks and Liars article.

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/despite-attempts-wyden-and-udall-secr 

I do know of several secrecy provisions of the Patriot Act. Surely, everyone has heard of gag rules on Libraries, while agents investigate readers. The outrages of the TSA are enough to make anyone ill. I don&#039;t fly.

If there is any meeting of left and right, this is one of them.

If it&#039;s true, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly 15 years ago, during the Clinton administration, no less, I was alerted to a program that was being pushed, called Model States. I do belive the information came from the ACLU at the time, or else they knew of some details. </p>
<p>The program was to be an emergecy measure, ala Stepen King&#8217;s &#8216;The Stand&#8217; for all the same reasons,and with similar results, such as confiscation of fuel , food , firearms, etc.</p>
<p>I wondered if it had been folded into the Patriot Act. I do have the recent Crooks and Liars article.</p>
<p><a href="http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/despite-attempts-wyden-and-udall-secr" rel="nofollow">http://crooksandliars.com/susi.....udall-secr</a> </p>
<p>I do know of several secrecy provisions of the Patriot Act. Surely, everyone has heard of gag rules on Libraries, while agents investigate readers. The outrages of the TSA are enough to make anyone ill. I don&#8217;t fly.</p>
<p>If there is any meeting of left and right, this is one of them.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s true, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Molloy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Molloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 04:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam, all that has validity, and is way ahead of where most people&#039;s heads are at, except some in the OWS, and maybe a few in the Tea Party. However the recent surfacing of some old Ron Paul newsletters, and his flimsy denial, evaporated any respect I might have had for him personally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, all that has validity, and is way ahead of where most people&#8217;s heads are at, except some in the OWS, and maybe a few in the Tea Party. However the recent surfacing of some old Ron Paul newsletters, and his flimsy denial, evaporated any respect I might have had for him personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the political spectrum is pretty nuanced, the &quot;political compass&quot; is basically BS.  The problem is that its questions are based on liberal assumptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the political spectrum is pretty nuanced, the &#8220;political compass&#8221; is basically BS.  The problem is that its questions are based on liberal assumptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, I realized this article was spin and B.S. as soon as it started using language like &quot;far left&quot; &quot;hard right&quot; etc., perpetuating the mythology that politics is one dimensional.

I implored everyone to look up the Political Compass. You will realize that politics is nuanced.

I used to think I was a leftist/socialist, until I heard a speech from Ron Paul [while not knowing who he was, what party/ideaology] and he made alot of sense to me.

Left vs. right = collectivist/non-profit-driven economics vs. capitalist/profit-driven/free-market economics, and then you have up-down, authortarian vs. libertarian/anarchist.

Seriously, left vs right is a form of mythology with which we (or &quot;they&quot; depending who you ask) keep ourselves/us in the dark.

Just think: many so-called leftists and so-called right-wingers will claim to be interested in liberties on some issues and will toe statist lines on some issues; when it comes down to it a more important debate should be &quot;what is the role of government,&quot; &quot;are rights innate or &#039;given&#039; to us&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I realized this article was spin and B.S. as soon as it started using language like &#8220;far left&#8221; &#8220;hard right&#8221; etc., perpetuating the mythology that politics is one dimensional.</p>
<p>I implored everyone to look up the Political Compass. You will realize that politics is nuanced.</p>
<p>I used to think I was a leftist/socialist, until I heard a speech from Ron Paul [while not knowing who he was, what party/ideaology] and he made alot of sense to me.</p>
<p>Left vs. right = collectivist/non-profit-driven economics vs. capitalist/profit-driven/free-market economics, and then you have up-down, authortarian vs. libertarian/anarchist.</p>
<p>Seriously, left vs right is a form of mythology with which we (or &#8220;they&#8221; depending who you ask) keep ourselves/us in the dark.</p>
<p>Just think: many so-called leftists and so-called right-wingers will claim to be interested in liberties on some issues and will toe statist lines on some issues; when it comes down to it a more important debate should be &#8220;what is the role of government,&#8221; &#8220;are rights innate or &#8216;given&#8217; to us&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: swaneagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>swaneagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadly, too many so called peace and justice activists have not done their homework around the workings of the extreme racist right.  I do what i can to encourage people to avoid spreading info from Alex Jones and other racist conspiracy troublemakers. 

Because of the extremes of laws being passed such as the recent Indefinite detention bill, as well as the hideous violence of police used against peaceful people involved in the Decolonize Occupy movements, many pick up on such information with no frame of reference.  I encourage people to really do their research and stick to known sources of conscience. 

People are suffering very much right now and when the encampments of protesters become the only safety net in this society, we are looking at major problems with very visible, human destitution and desperation.  It becomes vitally important that those in the know spread accurate information. I am not impressed with how easily the comfortable, intelligent folks who think they know better are eager to join mainstream corporate media in denouncing those sticking their necks out in ways that are not given voice or vital support. All people who have conscience need to pay close attention to what is going on in their communities act quickly with great compassion.

While i camped with my college age daughter at her school, Seattle Central Community College, i was witness to the great influx of homeless people to the Decolonize Occupy Seattle camp.  The great love and compassion shown by organizers who were mostly young people inspires me continually.  They are willing to listen to truth, so please have heart and do all you can to make sure truth prevails.

We are facing a major human crisis in this country right now.  Courage, generosity and healthy information are vitally needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, too many so called peace and justice activists have not done their homework around the workings of the extreme racist right.  I do what i can to encourage people to avoid spreading info from Alex Jones and other racist conspiracy troublemakers. </p>
<p>Because of the extremes of laws being passed such as the recent Indefinite detention bill, as well as the hideous violence of police used against peaceful people involved in the Decolonize Occupy movements, many pick up on such information with no frame of reference.  I encourage people to really do their research and stick to known sources of conscience. </p>
<p>People are suffering very much right now and when the encampments of protesters become the only safety net in this society, we are looking at major problems with very visible, human destitution and desperation.  It becomes vitally important that those in the know spread accurate information. I am not impressed with how easily the comfortable, intelligent folks who think they know better are eager to join mainstream corporate media in denouncing those sticking their necks out in ways that are not given voice or vital support. All people who have conscience need to pay close attention to what is going on in their communities act quickly with great compassion.</p>
<p>While i camped with my college age daughter at her school, Seattle Central Community College, i was witness to the great influx of homeless people to the Decolonize Occupy Seattle camp.  The great love and compassion shown by organizers who were mostly young people inspires me continually.  They are willing to listen to truth, so please have heart and do all you can to make sure truth prevails.</p>
<p>We are facing a major human crisis in this country right now.  Courage, generosity and healthy information are vitally needed.</p>
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		<title>By: legalhound</title>
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		<dc:creator>legalhound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The way this got started on the left was that there was an article with the Army&#039;s job description for guards in a recruiting listing. It mentions something about civilian agitators, it does not say that these camps are to be in the US, there is a legal and human rights group that has questions as to exactly how civilian is to be defined and that is as far as it went. Add this piece which got picked up by Daily Koss to the stuff being spread at the Occupy rallies (We have quite a few white supremacist gang members lurking around Occupy Long Beach trying to spread a bunch of crap and stir up trouble) and you get drivel like this. When it seems like it is coming from both sides people start believing that it could be credible even when it is just fringe theories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way this got started on the left was that there was an article with the Army&#8217;s job description for guards in a recruiting listing. It mentions something about civilian agitators, it does not say that these camps are to be in the US, there is a legal and human rights group that has questions as to exactly how civilian is to be defined and that is as far as it went. Add this piece which got picked up by Daily Koss to the stuff being spread at the Occupy rallies (We have quite a few white supremacist gang members lurking around Occupy Long Beach trying to spread a bunch of crap and stir up trouble) and you get drivel like this. When it seems like it is coming from both sides people start believing that it could be credible even when it is just fringe theories.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rusian:  You really should attend a GA of an Occupy in your area before making such silly statements.

The NDAA is close to being signed into law and as others have said here, Obama has stated that he will not veto it.

Congress, with the help of Hollywood and more likely due to Hollywood&#039;s over-arching greed, will probably pass a law that will allow censoring of the internet.

Already the technology exists and is in use that monitors phone calls, computer traffic and other data of most individuals who use certain technologies.

Whether the intent to undermine the people is in place right now really isn&#039;t even important; its that the capacity to undermine the people&#039;s freedoms, the constitution and the bill of rights is building at a pace that most people cannot keep up with unless they do it for a career.

We assume that there is some moral floor present with most members of Congress, but time and again, they have demonstrated that they are willing to lower the floor on our well-being in order to raise the bar on their personal profit and power.

The only way this will change is when the majority of the people in this country become personally outraged enough to demand justice.  Unfortunately, since capital is the highest priority in this country and buying and selling the people&#039;s well being -- as long as it isn&#039;t yours -- is considering just fine, we&#039;ll all be cooked in our own soup anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusian:  You really should attend a GA of an Occupy in your area before making such silly statements.</p>
<p>The NDAA is close to being signed into law and as others have said here, Obama has stated that he will not veto it.</p>
<p>Congress, with the help of Hollywood and more likely due to Hollywood&#8217;s over-arching greed, will probably pass a law that will allow censoring of the internet.</p>
<p>Already the technology exists and is in use that monitors phone calls, computer traffic and other data of most individuals who use certain technologies.</p>
<p>Whether the intent to undermine the people is in place right now really isn&#8217;t even important; its that the capacity to undermine the people&#8217;s freedoms, the constitution and the bill of rights is building at a pace that most people cannot keep up with unless they do it for a career.</p>
<p>We assume that there is some moral floor present with most members of Congress, but time and again, they have demonstrated that they are willing to lower the floor on our well-being in order to raise the bar on their personal profit and power.</p>
<p>The only way this will change is when the majority of the people in this country become personally outraged enough to demand justice.  Unfortunately, since capital is the highest priority in this country and buying and selling the people&#8217;s well being &#8212; as long as it isn&#8217;t yours &#8212; is considering just fine, we&#8217;ll all be cooked in our own soup anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[W Malloy, don&#039;t you know the first rule of the conspiracy theory.  That is what they want you to think - yes, while Michael Brown might have appeared to be an incompetent, he was actually a criminal mastermind like G. Gordon Liddy, Boris Badenov, Ollie North, the villans on Scooby Doo, Warren G. Harding, or the guy who showed up on America&#039;s Dumbest Criminals trying to rob a store while wearing a paper bag with no eyeholes cut in it over his head and his security guard uniform from his job as security guard at the store. 

The truth is out there - just you wait and see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W Malloy, don&#8217;t you know the first rule of the conspiracy theory.  That is what they want you to think &#8211; yes, while Michael Brown might have appeared to be an incompetent, he was actually a criminal mastermind like G. Gordon Liddy, Boris Badenov, Ollie North, the villans on Scooby Doo, Warren G. Harding, or the guy who showed up on America&#8217;s Dumbest Criminals trying to rob a store while wearing a paper bag with no eyeholes cut in it over his head and his security guard uniform from his job as security guard at the store. </p>
<p>The truth is out there &#8211; just you wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the only defense of the so-called &quot;left&quot; getting involved in such conspiracy theories is that IF such concentration camps were to ever truly emerge, they would be far more likely to be aimed at &quot;leftists,&quot; and set up by far right wingers. President Bachmann, anyone?

And, hate to say it, but the passage of the recent anti-democratic, authoritarian Military Authorization Act, abrogating 600 years of Western principles of habeas corpus and other civil liberties, is more than ample evidence that it&#039;s only paranoia if they&#039;re NOT out to get you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the only defense of the so-called &#8220;left&#8221; getting involved in such conspiracy theories is that IF such concentration camps were to ever truly emerge, they would be far more likely to be aimed at &#8220;leftists,&#8221; and set up by far right wingers. President Bachmann, anyone?</p>
<p>And, hate to say it, but the passage of the recent anti-democratic, authoritarian Military Authorization Act, abrogating 600 years of Western principles of habeas corpus and other civil liberties, is more than ample evidence that it&#8217;s only paranoia if they&#8217;re NOT out to get you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, Alex Jones is a far rightist, as he labels himself a &quot;paleoconservative.&quot;  He is also a con-man.  Most call him a nutjob but I don&#039;t believe he truly takes himself seriously.  He is making money off of rubes, plain and simple. 

Second, some posters here are a bit confused about how things work.  The burden of proof is on the conspiracy theorists to show proof of these FEMA camps for rounding up citizens, not on any of us to refute them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Alex Jones is a far rightist, as he labels himself a &#8220;paleoconservative.&#8221;  He is also a con-man.  Most call him a nutjob but I don&#8217;t believe he truly takes himself seriously.  He is making money off of rubes, plain and simple. </p>
<p>Second, some posters here are a bit confused about how things work.  The burden of proof is on the conspiracy theorists to show proof of these FEMA camps for rounding up citizens, not on any of us to refute them.</p>
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		<title>By: W Malloy</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-364812</link>
		<dc:creator>W Malloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One need only look at FEMA&#039;s performance in 2005 and following (when IKE hit in 2008, some were still living in their Katrina/Rita mobile homes) to see how ludicrous these conspiracy theories are --- no matter who makes the claim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One need only look at FEMA&#8217;s performance in 2005 and following (when IKE hit in 2008, some were still living in their Katrina/Rita mobile homes) to see how ludicrous these conspiracy theories are &#8212; no matter who makes the claim.</p>
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		<title>By: StopUSAGiveaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>StopUSAGiveaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many of you can verify what you state?  Do you do that all the time?  Is that how you live on Planet Earth making up words to fit what you need to hear?  Living on quick sand...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of you can verify what you state?  Do you do that all the time?  Is that how you live on Planet Earth making up words to fit what you need to hear?  Living on quick sand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: StopUSAGiveaway</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-364794</link>
		<dc:creator>StopUSAGiveaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then why after Clinton blew up l50 missile sites for the Communist to view on satellite and Gorbachev living at the Presidio stating when asked in l986 &quot;how does it feel to be out of government stated--I am downsizing your military!&quot;  I was there   f o o l s....  Why do we have barbed wire fenced camps after our US military bases closed and missile sites blownup?  Just a conspiracy.  Who do you defend SPLC?  Illegals who rape US Citizens and gangs who have control of US soil? Gangs in 300 cities documented?  What are you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why after Clinton blew up l50 missile sites for the Communist to view on satellite and Gorbachev living at the Presidio stating when asked in l986 &#8220;how does it feel to be out of government stated&#8211;I am downsizing your military!&#8221;  I was there   f o o l s&#8230;.  Why do we have barbed wire fenced camps after our US military bases closed and missile sites blownup?  Just a conspiracy.  Who do you defend SPLC?  Illegals who rape US Citizens and gangs who have control of US soil? Gangs in 300 cities documented?  What are you?</p>
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		<title>By: azure</title>
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		<dc:creator>azure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps part of what&#039;s being expressed by these groups, now at both ends of the spectrum is fear regarding the changes that have occurred in the US since 09/11. Although I don&#039;t quite understand how an animal &quot;liberationist&quot; who thinks violence is the way to &quot;liberate&quot; other than human animals is considered to be a hard leftie.  Hitler liked dogs &amp; was reportedly a vegetarian.

Anyone who paid attention to the changes either pushed for or simply performed (torture, etc.) by the Bush II administration has had legitimate cause for alarm.  The Obama administration&#039;s continuation of these policies (i.e., permanent &quot;suspension&quot; actually effective repeal of some of the Bill of Rights) and now the failure of the Udall amendment to the Defense Authorization Act, and prez Obama&#039;s refusal to veto that legislation.

Note how the LAPD treated some peacefully resisting/protesting OWS, which is probably very similar to how they&#039;ve been treating black &amp; some Hispanic Americans for some time.  Ditto the NYPD and the Seattle PD and the evidence supporting the federal gov&#039;t&#039;s increasing militarization of the police.

The Congressional GOP&#039;s efforts to create a separate judicial system (run by the military) for terrrerissts.   And of course just who is &quot;terrorist&quot; is defined very broadly, although it&#039;s clear it excludes, the banksters &amp; the CEO, et al,  of AIG whose greedy &amp; reckless machinations nearly brought the economy down.

There does seem to be a strong trend towards terminating several of the rights listed in the Bill of Rights, and destruction of the right to due process in general.   As to whether the US is targeting certain US groups, who knows, my guess is it&#039;s anyone who challenges the corporate &quot;elite&quot; or the ultra wealthy of the US, the so-called 1% or class war with the upper class wielding the power of government to win the &quot;war.&quot;  can become a target.   

So, FEMA camps or indefinite detention w/out trial or access to legal representation by the military, take your pick.  I don&#039;t think those groups are being specifically targeted but since I&#039;m not a member of the Koch family or have a position high in the federal gov&#039;t hierarchy, how would I know who&#039;s being targeted or will be in the future?  Because that&#039;s who will do the choice whether it&#039;s directly or through a proxy, i.e., a Congressperson or presidential administration. 

The response to the OWS has been bad enough--and different from that of the police/gov&#039;t in the EU &amp; the UK to similar actions.   Reminiscent of how efforts at unionizing and integration were greeted by the PTB, which were violent (Joe Hill, et al) and often violent w/no provocation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps part of what&#8217;s being expressed by these groups, now at both ends of the spectrum is fear regarding the changes that have occurred in the US since 09/11. Although I don&#8217;t quite understand how an animal &#8220;liberationist&#8221; who thinks violence is the way to &#8220;liberate&#8221; other than human animals is considered to be a hard leftie.  Hitler liked dogs &amp; was reportedly a vegetarian.</p>
<p>Anyone who paid attention to the changes either pushed for or simply performed (torture, etc.) by the Bush II administration has had legitimate cause for alarm.  The Obama administration&#8217;s continuation of these policies (i.e., permanent &#8220;suspension&#8221; actually effective repeal of some of the Bill of Rights) and now the failure of the Udall amendment to the Defense Authorization Act, and prez Obama&#8217;s refusal to veto that legislation.</p>
<p>Note how the LAPD treated some peacefully resisting/protesting OWS, which is probably very similar to how they&#8217;ve been treating black &amp; some Hispanic Americans for some time.  Ditto the NYPD and the Seattle PD and the evidence supporting the federal gov&#8217;t's increasing militarization of the police.</p>
<p>The Congressional GOP&#8217;s efforts to create a separate judicial system (run by the military) for terrrerissts.   And of course just who is &#8220;terrorist&#8221; is defined very broadly, although it&#8217;s clear it excludes, the banksters &amp; the CEO, et al,  of AIG whose greedy &amp; reckless machinations nearly brought the economy down.</p>
<p>There does seem to be a strong trend towards terminating several of the rights listed in the Bill of Rights, and destruction of the right to due process in general.   As to whether the US is targeting certain US groups, who knows, my guess is it&#8217;s anyone who challenges the corporate &#8220;elite&#8221; or the ultra wealthy of the US, the so-called 1% or class war with the upper class wielding the power of government to win the &#8220;war.&#8221;  can become a target.   </p>
<p>So, FEMA camps or indefinite detention w/out trial or access to legal representation by the military, take your pick.  I don&#8217;t think those groups are being specifically targeted but since I&#8217;m not a member of the Koch family or have a position high in the federal gov&#8217;t hierarchy, how would I know who&#8217;s being targeted or will be in the future?  Because that&#8217;s who will do the choice whether it&#8217;s directly or through a proxy, i.e., a Congressperson or presidential administration. </p>
<p>The response to the OWS has been bad enough&#8211;and different from that of the police/gov&#8217;t in the EU &amp; the UK to similar actions.   Reminiscent of how efforts at unionizing and integration were greeted by the PTB, which were violent (Joe Hill, et al) and often violent w/no provocation.</p>
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		<title>By: lgold</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/12/20/coming-full-circle-fema-camp-theory-gains-traction-on-far-left/comment-page-1/#comment-364774</link>
		<dc:creator>lgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t consider Alex Jones to be &#039;Far Right.&#039; He is just awake. FEMA camps are not a conspiracy theory. FEMA camps are are a reality. 
Wake up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t consider Alex Jones to be &#8216;Far Right.&#8217; He is just awake. FEMA camps are not a conspiracy theory. FEMA camps are are a reality.<br />
Wake up.</p>
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