So some read the Bible and assume it’s talking about cruel slavery because of their ignorance of their own history and this economically viable solution for people who need work and money.

you won’t be so amazed when a group you agree with finds itself on their hit list

For once, you’re absolutely right. That final sentence seems to be the unvarnished truth.

With gay AIDS victims, let me say that while gay/lesbian activities in the U.S. are legal, if a gay is going to be promiscous, not use condoms & use drugs, then I have no sympathy for him if he gets AIDS. Many people wouldn’t sympathize with a straight man if he had sex with many women, didn’t use condoms & then got a deadly VD (I like the old word VD) as they’d say the man took the risks. So for the same reason, I don’t sympathize with gay AIDS victims because they took the risk. I guess that makes me a ‘fascist idiot’ but I don’t care.

But the reason I mention Klansmen & Stormfront is because just because some1 is a bigot, doesn’t mean that they’re uneducated. How do you explain Aron, that there are individual Klansmen who can speak Vietnamese, Chinese & Korean? As Germany & Japan were untrustworthy allies during WW2, there were Nazis who could speak Japanese & there were Japanese who could speak German-both Germany & Japan believed they were the master races beginning from the late 1800s to their defeat in WW2.

Many Japanese soldiers who took part in WW2 atrocities could speak Chinese, Korean, Tagalog (language of the Phillipines), etc. My point about people who are racists is that racists can be knowledgable about other groups. You don’t like Patrick J. Buchanan, but Mr. Buchanan is a well traveled man & has very good knowledge about history esp. as he was President R.M. Nixon’s speechwriter.

The SPLC has a right to label who they wish as hateful bigot. If the SPLC wants to label me as a hateful bigot because I’m against gay/lesbian activities, I’ll accept that label. But I & those who are against gay/lesbian activities & sex change mutilations have a right to show just how silly the SPLC is comparing us to the KKK. Also fail to understand why Rebecca of the Holocaust Museum raises the Holocaust on this? If she is implying that any1 who is against gay/lesbian activiities as I or any1 else who the SPLC labels as ‘hate’ is comparable to Holocaust of 6 million Jews in extermination program, well that’s just silly.

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This is getting tedious. Those words you used to demonstrate Paddy Buchanan’s ‘worldliness’ demonstrate nothing. While they are indeed Bengali in origin, they are a part of the common American English lexicon. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that about 95-97 per cent of the people who use the term ‘pundit’ do not know its actual meaning or origin.

I’ve already lectured you on this exact subject. And it has grown tiresome.

Since you’re such a fan of Stormfront and the Duke-holes, why don’t you hang around there? You aren’t winning any friends or converts here.

(Also, you might want to look into your formatting. For someone who writes such long-winded comments, your spacing makes it very difficult to read.)

Another lesson of the Holocaust that I have taught and firmly believe is this: If you choose to be a silent bystander and do nothing in the face of adversity or oppression of those around you, the guilt and shame of the perpetrator is also yours.

Or, to put it simply: “Evil thrives when good people do nothing.”

Thank you SPLC, and to everyone here, PLEASE do more than express your opinion. DONATE to the SPLC. You may be in need of their services in the future.

As to the Ku Klux Klan, let me say that people who are bigoted & I’m sure the SPLC will agree, aren’t necessarily dumb people. There are White Supremacists who can fluently speak Chinese, Japanese & Vietnamese. During the Vietnam War, there were Klansmen who fought next to Black soldiers though sometimes race fights happened between Blacks & White soldiers in Vietnam. There were also Klansmen who fought in the Korean war. Yes, some of the Klansmen do speak Korean & Vietnamese. Not to promote Stormfront but I’ve found that quite a few of the White Nationalists can speak German, Polish, Spanish & I’ve even found individuals who can speak Chinese. Patrick J. Buchanan who the SPLC has condemned visited China during the Nixon Administration & in his columns, he sometimes uses Bengali words such as Pundit, jungle, guru & Pariah. Again for those of you who know me, I’m Bengali, so I have to say that while I am against discrimination & segregation, White Supremacists can be smart people. Finally, Klansman David Ernest Duke has been to India & during the Vietnam War, he taught English to Laotian officers.

I’ve thought the same things about these groups. Why is it these “Christian” groups such as the Family Research Council, American Family Association, Traditional Values Coalition, Americans For the Truth About Homosexuality, Abiding Truth Mininstries, etc. never donate to charity to help homeless people, feed the hungry, the unemployed etc. instead of being obsessed with portraying gay people as child molesters or Nazis? If they’re so concerend about the safety of children, why do they seem so focused on only boys being molested yet not seem to care at all about the safety of numerous young girls molested by men? Girls are still more likely to be molested than boys! Why are they so obsessed with rewritting history to blame gays for the murders of millions of people during World War II? Why are they so concerned about gays serving openly in the military if many countries already have been letting gays serve openly in the military for a long time with no problems? These groups just can’t find someting positive to do yet instead want to concentrate their time on doing evil, useless things just to domonize a group of people!!!!!!!!

When will you take the time to find your own answers? The SPLC has written about prejudice against Christians PLENTY of times.

Though I doubt you’ll take the time to read any of the articles…

I’m not a law expert so if someone knows more than me, please correct me if I’m wrong – but if these groups are lying, can’t they be sued for libel or defamation? Isn’t that the appropriate thing to do here?

If they can’t be sued, then labeling a group a hate group just for stuff they say seems a bit… weak, honestly. I mean, if all the members are law abiding and haven’t physically harmed anyone, then what’s the big deal? Again, by applying the “hate group” label, it looks like the SPLC is trying to associate law abiding folks with people who have actually committed hate crimes.

The “words have consequences” argument is a lot like the sort of arguments Christians themselves use that, for example, trashy and violent movies will make people more likely to have sex and commit violent crimes against one another and therefore Hollywood should be censored and so on. Nobody buys that argument, except extremists who believe in controlling what other people can see and hear.

2, Homosexuality has always been with humanity – 10-11% of every population. They were often special among Native Americans. All embryos start out as female – testosterone floods the embryo after creation to change it to a male. Nature is imperfect. Live with it.

3. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. Canadians? Other tribal nations in my area? Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I wear reading glasses – is there some wiggle-room here? My uncle’s wife violates Lev.19:19 by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester). Do we get the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16 or just burn them to death like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

Lively and Wildmon were allied with Rev. Fred Phelps in their Traverse City campaign against Gay Rights in the state. That was all I needed to know when I recently declared to the world that Tupelo, Mississippi has a “Dark Side.” (My hometown!) A pseudo-Christian Dark Side that is a total disgrace to America and to the people of Tupelo! Is it really any wonder why, according to Biblical texts, that someone added the verse that reminds Christians of the time when “Jesus Wept”?

SPLC needs to keep up their good work.

First off, what exactly is a “hate group” and why is the SPLC in charge of deciding who is and who isn’t a hate group? Are there other groups that can decide?

Is a “hate group” a term with some sort of legal ramifications to it, that is, can the fact that you’re a member of a group that the SPLC says is a hate group effect the outcome of your trial, if you should happen to run afoul of the law for some reason?

Next, I can see how a group with members who go out and commit hate crimes as defined by the laws of the US and elsewhere can be called a hate group, especially if the members are acting as representatives of the group or on orders of the group. But what if everyone in the group is law abiding and doing nothing other than saying stupid, mean stuff? While libel is against the law, opinion is not. If these groups are saying something libelous and/or defamatory, then perhaps they should be taken to court.

But it seems like labeling a group a hate group for merely saying stuff, even nasty provably false stuff, cheapens the meaning of “hate group.” Most people think of a “hate group” as an organized bunch who go around destroying people and assaulting or murdering people. Or perhaps that’s the point – to label a group of people who are just saying stupid stuff with a designation that will lead many people to think that they are committing acts of violence?