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	<title>Comments on: Anti-Gay Haters Plan Press Conference Today at SPLC</title>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-389286</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all show up wearing our &quot;Gay Life&quot; T-shirts. 
Once they see how many of us there are, it won&#039;t be so easy for them to walk all over us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all show up wearing our &#8220;Gay Life&#8221; T-shirts.<br />
Once they see how many of us there are, it won&#8217;t be so easy for them to walk all over us.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-388805</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aron, we&#039;ve repeated but again, &#039;gay bashing&#039; cases are almost always 1 story vs. another with no other witnesses besides those involved.  If a man says that he bashed or killed a gay after the gay harassed him or committed assault&amp;battery on him, then a jury will decide if the man&#039;s story about the gay committing a crime is true &amp; if so, then did the man react justly or excessively.  If it&#039;s excessive, then a jury decides if it&#039;s 1st, 2nd or Manslaughter if we have a homicide case.

That&#039;s also true for rape trials.  Most rape cases are he says she says cases where the woman says that the man forced her or threatened her with force to have sex while the man says that the woman agreed-that they did the acts she agreed to &amp; what she &amp; or he said no to, they didn&#039;t do.  With rape, it&#039;s possible for a woman or man to 1st consent but change mind &amp; say no.  It&#039;s also possible for a woman or man to 1st say not but then voluntarily change mind &amp; decide to have sex.   It&#039;s also possible for a woman or man to say no to 1 sex act but agree to another.  Rape/sex abuse cases must be judged individually by juries. So the same is true for &#039;gay bashing&#039; cases-they must be judged individually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron, we&#8217;ve repeated but again, &#8216;gay bashing&#8217; cases are almost always 1 story vs. another with no other witnesses besides those involved.  If a man says that he bashed or killed a gay after the gay harassed him or committed assault&amp;battery on him, then a jury will decide if the man&#8217;s story about the gay committing a crime is true &amp; if so, then did the man react justly or excessively.  If it&#8217;s excessive, then a jury decides if it&#8217;s 1st, 2nd or Manslaughter if we have a homicide case.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s also true for rape trials.  Most rape cases are he says she says cases where the woman says that the man forced her or threatened her with force to have sex while the man says that the woman agreed-that they did the acts she agreed to &amp; what she &amp; or he said no to, they didn&#8217;t do.  With rape, it&#8217;s possible for a woman or man to 1st consent but change mind &amp; say no.  It&#8217;s also possible for a woman or man to 1st say not but then voluntarily change mind &amp; decide to have sex.   It&#8217;s also possible for a woman or man to say no to 1 sex act but agree to another.  Rape/sex abuse cases must be judged individually by juries. So the same is true for &#8216;gay bashing&#8217; cases-they must be judged individually.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-388694</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funinsnow,

You&#039;re right. That was a PAINFULLY weak answer. &#039;I don&#039;t believe them because they&#039;re EVIL!&#039;

Good luck in life with that kind of attitude, buddy.

We&#039;re done here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funinsnow,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. That was a PAINFULLY weak answer. &#8216;I don&#8217;t believe them because they&#8217;re EVIL!&#8217;</p>
<p>Good luck in life with that kind of attitude, buddy.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re done here.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-388569</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aron, this will sound like a weak answer but if a man says he bashed or killed a gay after the gay committed assault&amp;battery on him, then unless there&#039;s contrary proof, I&#039;ll believe the gay basher because people who take part in gay/lesbian activities aren&#039;t to be trusted.  People who take part in gay/lesbian activities tend to be anti-social as gay/lesbian activities are anti-social.  &amp; I don&#039;t care what the AMA &amp; APA say about Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron.  Both the AMA &amp; APA are apologists for gay/lesbian activities &amp; the American Medical Association (AMA) is an anti-social group.  Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron is right &amp; those of us who agree with Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron don&#039;t care what the AMA says.  Hope that answers you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron, this will sound like a weak answer but if a man says he bashed or killed a gay after the gay committed assault&amp;battery on him, then unless there&#8217;s contrary proof, I&#8217;ll believe the gay basher because people who take part in gay/lesbian activities aren&#8217;t to be trusted.  People who take part in gay/lesbian activities tend to be anti-social as gay/lesbian activities are anti-social.  &amp; I don&#8217;t care what the AMA &amp; APA say about Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron.  Both the AMA &amp; APA are apologists for gay/lesbian activities &amp; the American Medical Association (AMA) is an anti-social group.  Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron is right &amp; those of us who agree with Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron don&#8217;t care what the AMA says.  Hope that answers you.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-388132</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funinsnow,

And you answered the same thing. I asked for statistics. You have given me speculation. The American Justice System puts the burden of proof on the accuser. As such, there must be evidence that all of these men had been sexually assaulted by gay men prior to their beating.

You&#039;re the one making the accusations. You&#039;re the one who needs to produce the evidence.

Until then, you have no more credibility than Paul Cameron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funinsnow,</p>
<p>And you answered the same thing. I asked for statistics. You have given me speculation. The American Justice System puts the burden of proof on the accuser. As such, there must be evidence that all of these men had been sexually assaulted by gay men prior to their beating.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one making the accusations. You&#8217;re the one who needs to produce the evidence.</p>
<p>Until then, you have no more credibility than Paul Cameron.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-388049</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aron, didn&#039;t say that gay bashings by straights don&#039;t happen but when they do, they make the news because it&#039;s odd &amp; strange.  I&#039;ve also said that I&#039;ve found that most &#039;gay bashings&#039; when done by straight men are the straight man reacting or overreacting to a crime the gay did.  A case would be a man who bashes or kills a gay after the gay grabbed the man&#039;s butt or groin against will.  Those cases are the most common gay bashings which OK would probably be overreaction, but the man overreacted to a crime the gay did which is assault&amp;battery.  If a defense lawyer in a gay bashing case wants to bring up anti-social conduct the gay did such as harass the man (proposing repeatedly after some1 has said no is criminal harassment) or assault&amp;battery, then a jury will decide if the man&#039;s story is true &amp; if so was it just or excessive?  If it&#039;s excessive, then a jury will decide esp. if it&#039;s a murder trial, should the man be convicted of 1st, 2nd or Manslaughter.  I&#039;ve answered you before in an earlier post months earlier &amp; what you just did is answer the same ? you asked earlier, when we discussed Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron visiting Moldava.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron, didn&#8217;t say that gay bashings by straights don&#8217;t happen but when they do, they make the news because it&#8217;s odd &amp; strange.  I&#8217;ve also said that I&#8217;ve found that most &#8216;gay bashings&#8217; when done by straight men are the straight man reacting or overreacting to a crime the gay did.  A case would be a man who bashes or kills a gay after the gay grabbed the man&#8217;s butt or groin against will.  Those cases are the most common gay bashings which OK would probably be overreaction, but the man overreacted to a crime the gay did which is assault&amp;battery.  If a defense lawyer in a gay bashing case wants to bring up anti-social conduct the gay did such as harass the man (proposing repeatedly after some1 has said no is criminal harassment) or assault&amp;battery, then a jury will decide if the man&#8217;s story is true &amp; if so was it just or excessive?  If it&#8217;s excessive, then a jury will decide esp. if it&#8217;s a murder trial, should the man be convicted of 1st, 2nd or Manslaughter.  I&#8217;ve answered you before in an earlier post months earlier &amp; what you just did is answer the same ? you asked earlier, when we discussed Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron visiting Moldava.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-388039</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funinsnow,

First, I never made a comment regarding Gandhi&#039;s faith, so I don&#039;t know why you brought that up.

Second, since you seem to be so enamored with Paul Cameron, I&#039;m sure you would be willing to provide evidence to support his claims. Every story you&#039;ve ever told is simply specious. Give me numbers that prove gay-bashing doesn&#039;t exist. Give me numbers that prove there are almost no bias-crimes against homosexuals by heterosexuals.

Please. I can&#039;t wait to hear what you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funinsnow,</p>
<p>First, I never made a comment regarding Gandhi&#8217;s faith, so I don&#8217;t know why you brought that up.</p>
<p>Second, since you seem to be so enamored with Paul Cameron, I&#8217;m sure you would be willing to provide evidence to support his claims. Every story you&#8217;ve ever told is simply specious. Give me numbers that prove gay-bashing doesn&#8217;t exist. Give me numbers that prove there are almost no bias-crimes against homosexuals by heterosexuals.</p>
<p>Please. I can&#8217;t wait to hear what you say.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-388014</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitch,

A very good point. I had always wondered why Greece had subsided as a major center of civilization. Now I know it was their acceptance of buggery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitch,</p>
<p>A very good point. I had always wondered why Greece had subsided as a major center of civilization. Now I know it was their acceptance of buggery.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-388011</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aron, I haven&#039;t visited India since 2002 &amp; I don&#039;t keep in contact with relatives I have who live there-it&#039;s my parents who came from India.  Also Indira Gandhi was not Hindu, she was Zoroastrian.  I don&#039;t know her policies of sterlization, but I oppose vasectomies &amp; tubal ligations &amp; have no problem if both are abolished because there are efficient birth control such as the pill, condoms &amp; the Rhythm method.  Sex is supposed to be limited to penis/vaginal sex between a man &amp; woman or else no sex.  Gays/lesbians can be celibate even if orientation doesn&#039;t change.  My view is to repeat about ending gay/lesbian activities regardless of orientation change.

But it seems that SPLC, Huffington Post, etc. score people like Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron, etc. because they give facts on the harms of gay/lesbian activities which gay/lesbian groups hate by labelling people such as the FRC as hate groups.  The SPLC, Huffington Post, etc. talk about anecdotal gay bashing cases by straight men, when the fact is that almost all the violence against gays &amp; lesbians-assault&amp;battery &amp; murder are domestic violence cases.  Eg. if a gay were to bash his gay lover during a domestic fight, this assault&amp;battery is usu. not going to be in the media unless it&#039;s a strange case such as involving a famous gay couple.  If a gay or lesbian were to kill their lover during a domestic fight, then it&#039;s usu. in the local press but probably won&#039;t be in the national press.

On the other hand, if a gay or few cases lesbian is bashed or killed by a straight man, then it makes national news incl. here on SPLC, because these cases are strange &amp; odd-the news is about strange, odd &amp; interesting.  In December 2011, there was national news incl. in Huffington Post about a vandalism @ a gay nativity scene in Claremont Calif. So far, nobody has been arrested.  Gay/lesbian groups say that the vandalism was done by &#039;homophobes&#039; who vandalised the nativity. But as nobody has been arrested &amp; if no suspects are found, it&#039;s possible that the vandalism could&#039;ve been staged by gays &amp; lesbians who vandalized the nativity scene of 2 lesbians for sympathy purposes by using the media to lecture on how &#039;homophobic&#039; society is &amp; possibly get insurance money.  Again, the Claremont police haven&#039;t arrested any1 for vandalizing the gay nativity scene. If it was done by people who are against gay/lesbian activities, then it&#039;s a dumb thing to do as it hurts our cause.  But if it was done by a gay or lesbian to try to get sympathy for gays/lesbians in the media, then don&#039;t be surprised.  Gays &amp; lesbian groups know that the national press will cover these cases as they&#039;re strange &amp; unusual so gays &amp; lesbians would have a motive to stage the vandalism of the gay/lesbian nativity scene in Claremont church for sympathy &amp; insurance money.  Hope SPLC approves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron, I haven&#8217;t visited India since 2002 &amp; I don&#8217;t keep in contact with relatives I have who live there-it&#8217;s my parents who came from India.  Also Indira Gandhi was not Hindu, she was Zoroastrian.  I don&#8217;t know her policies of sterlization, but I oppose vasectomies &amp; tubal ligations &amp; have no problem if both are abolished because there are efficient birth control such as the pill, condoms &amp; the Rhythm method.  Sex is supposed to be limited to penis/vaginal sex between a man &amp; woman or else no sex.  Gays/lesbians can be celibate even if orientation doesn&#8217;t change.  My view is to repeat about ending gay/lesbian activities regardless of orientation change.</p>
<p>But it seems that SPLC, Huffington Post, etc. score people like Dr. Paul Drummond Cameron, etc. because they give facts on the harms of gay/lesbian activities which gay/lesbian groups hate by labelling people such as the FRC as hate groups.  The SPLC, Huffington Post, etc. talk about anecdotal gay bashing cases by straight men, when the fact is that almost all the violence against gays &amp; lesbians-assault&amp;battery &amp; murder are domestic violence cases.  Eg. if a gay were to bash his gay lover during a domestic fight, this assault&amp;battery is usu. not going to be in the media unless it&#8217;s a strange case such as involving a famous gay couple.  If a gay or lesbian were to kill their lover during a domestic fight, then it&#8217;s usu. in the local press but probably won&#8217;t be in the national press.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if a gay or few cases lesbian is bashed or killed by a straight man, then it makes national news incl. here on SPLC, because these cases are strange &amp; odd-the news is about strange, odd &amp; interesting.  In December 2011, there was national news incl. in Huffington Post about a vandalism @ a gay nativity scene in Claremont Calif. So far, nobody has been arrested.  Gay/lesbian groups say that the vandalism was done by &#8216;homophobes&#8217; who vandalised the nativity. But as nobody has been arrested &amp; if no suspects are found, it&#8217;s possible that the vandalism could&#8217;ve been staged by gays &amp; lesbians who vandalized the nativity scene of 2 lesbians for sympathy purposes by using the media to lecture on how &#8216;homophobic&#8217; society is &amp; possibly get insurance money.  Again, the Claremont police haven&#8217;t arrested any1 for vandalizing the gay nativity scene. If it was done by people who are against gay/lesbian activities, then it&#8217;s a dumb thing to do as it hurts our cause.  But if it was done by a gay or lesbian to try to get sympathy for gays/lesbians in the media, then don&#8217;t be surprised.  Gays &amp; lesbian groups know that the national press will cover these cases as they&#8217;re strange &amp; unusual so gays &amp; lesbians would have a motive to stage the vandalism of the gay/lesbian nativity scene in Claremont church for sympathy &amp; insurance money.  Hope SPLC approves.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Beales</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch Beales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aron any society that is no longer in existence has &quot;collapsed&quot; and haters like Rachel will assert that they did so due to whatever it is they hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron any society that is no longer in existence has &#8220;collapsed&#8221; and haters like Rachel will assert that they did so due to whatever it is they hate.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387960</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, with the way you think, you&#039;re the one who is really Godless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, with the way you think, you&#8217;re the one who is really Godless.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387959</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel, if you want to proof, take a look at comments made by Christian extremists like yourself. That&#039;s all the proof you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, if you want to proof, take a look at comments made by Christian extremists like yourself. That&#8217;s all the proof you need.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387630</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 02:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funinsnow,

Also, not a single study shows any other risks from marijuana smoking than smoke inhalation.

You seriously need to get your head out of your posterior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funinsnow,</p>
<p>Also, not a single study shows any other risks from marijuana smoking than smoke inhalation.</p>
<p>You seriously need to get your head out of your posterior.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387594</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I sure did miss you Funinsnow. 

Oh, wait. No I didn&#039;t. You have honestly uttered the most despicable comment on this entire article, and I seem to think you don&#039;t even realize how disgusting it was. Abort babies because that may eventually become LGBT? Maybe you just have a thing for Indira Gandhi and her policies of &#039;volunteered&#039; sterilization.

You are just as bad, and even arguably worse than these people. &#039;As bad as smoking crack?&#039; Now that&#039;s just silly and I won&#039;t even dignify it with a proper response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I sure did miss you Funinsnow. </p>
<p>Oh, wait. No I didn&#8217;t. You have honestly uttered the most despicable comment on this entire article, and I seem to think you don&#8217;t even realize how disgusting it was. Abort babies because that may eventually become LGBT? Maybe you just have a thing for Indira Gandhi and her policies of &#8216;volunteered&#8217; sterilization.</p>
<p>You are just as bad, and even arguably worse than these people. &#8216;As bad as smoking crack?&#8217; Now that&#8217;s just silly and I won&#8217;t even dignify it with a proper response.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387519</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randall, please avoid absolutes such as &#039;The only groups in the USA who oppose equality legislation are christian. Mormon, baptist, protestant.&#039;  I&#039;m a non-Christian &amp; if you&#039;ve seen my past posts, my parents came from mostly Hindu India, but I&#039;m a non-religious person who thinks gay/lesbian activities are bad just as crack smoking is.  Ok, most people who agree with me are Judeo-Christians but there are non-Christians such as myself who oppose homosexuality &amp; who believe in abolishing sex changes.  Also I support a woman&#039;s right to have an abortion &amp; in some cases pro-abortion such as if it can be predicted an unborn baby will be gay/lesbian or a transexual, then go ahead &amp; abort it just as I support aborting unborn Down Syndrome babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randall, please avoid absolutes such as &#8216;The only groups in the USA who oppose equality legislation are christian. Mormon, baptist, protestant.&#8217;  I&#8217;m a non-Christian &amp; if you&#8217;ve seen my past posts, my parents came from mostly Hindu India, but I&#8217;m a non-religious person who thinks gay/lesbian activities are bad just as crack smoking is.  Ok, most people who agree with me are Judeo-Christians but there are non-Christians such as myself who oppose homosexuality &amp; who believe in abolishing sex changes.  Also I support a woman&#8217;s right to have an abortion &amp; in some cases pro-abortion such as if it can be predicted an unborn baby will be gay/lesbian or a transexual, then go ahead &amp; abort it just as I support aborting unborn Down Syndrome babies.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387511</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the christian trolls who were alerted to come to this site and post:
The only groups in the USA who oppose equality legislation are christian.  Mormon, baptist, protestant.
There is NO OTHER organized resistance to the equality of gay Americans.
And, just one more time:  What&#039;s it to ya?
Think homosexuality is wrong?  Don&#039;t be a homosexual.
Think abortion is wrong?  Don&#039;t have one.
Think prostitution is wrong?  Don&#039;t be or engage a prostitute.
Other than that:  Mind Your Own Business.
Oh yeah...the argument that gay equality will destroy civilization as we know it, destroy communities and is a threat to the existence of society:  Lessee...Canada seems to still be on the map.  As are Denmark and the UK and several other countries who long ago allowed gay people to serve in their militaries, allow equal marriage, and don&#039;t give a flying fig what you demented christians think about it.
Their national healthcare coverages have lasted about 50 years or so and they&#039;re still a democratic country.
See, socialism is not the opposite of democracy.  
Gods, you are all so flaming STUPID!  You really don&#039;t know anything about anything.  You can&#039;t prove anything.  All the REAL evidence proves you&#039;re wrong.
And yet, here you are, still spouting it.
Wanna know why?
Because the very foundation of your religious belief system DEMANDS that you have an ENEMY to focus your energies on.
The judeo/christian phenomenon is the most destructive, vile, humanity-debasing construct that has ever befallen mankind.  
You&#039;ve opposed people of color, women, children, and now gays.
You fight for centuries to STOP other people who are doing you no harm whatsoever from being recognized as HUMAN with the same rights as anyone else, and you ALWAYS LOSE!
People of color:  Legally equal
Women:  Legally equal
Children:  no longer the &quot;property&quot; of their parents to be farmed out to sweatshops.
Gay people:  Receiving equal treatment under the law all over the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the christian trolls who were alerted to come to this site and post:<br />
The only groups in the USA who oppose equality legislation are christian.  Mormon, baptist, protestant.<br />
There is NO OTHER organized resistance to the equality of gay Americans.<br />
And, just one more time:  What&#8217;s it to ya?<br />
Think homosexuality is wrong?  Don&#8217;t be a homosexual.<br />
Think abortion is wrong?  Don&#8217;t have one.<br />
Think prostitution is wrong?  Don&#8217;t be or engage a prostitute.<br />
Other than that:  Mind Your Own Business.<br />
Oh yeah&#8230;the argument that gay equality will destroy civilization as we know it, destroy communities and is a threat to the existence of society:  Lessee&#8230;Canada seems to still be on the map.  As are Denmark and the UK and several other countries who long ago allowed gay people to serve in their militaries, allow equal marriage, and don&#8217;t give a flying fig what you demented christians think about it.<br />
Their national healthcare coverages have lasted about 50 years or so and they&#8217;re still a democratic country.<br />
See, socialism is not the opposite of democracy.<br />
Gods, you are all so flaming STUPID!  You really don&#8217;t know anything about anything.  You can&#8217;t prove anything.  All the REAL evidence proves you&#8217;re wrong.<br />
And yet, here you are, still spouting it.<br />
Wanna know why?<br />
Because the very foundation of your religious belief system DEMANDS that you have an ENEMY to focus your energies on.<br />
The judeo/christian phenomenon is the most destructive, vile, humanity-debasing construct that has ever befallen mankind.<br />
You&#8217;ve opposed people of color, women, children, and now gays.<br />
You fight for centuries to STOP other people who are doing you no harm whatsoever from being recognized as HUMAN with the same rights as anyone else, and you ALWAYS LOSE!<br />
People of color:  Legally equal<br />
Women:  Legally equal<br />
Children:  no longer the &#8220;property&#8221; of their parents to be farmed out to sweatshops.<br />
Gay people:  Receiving equal treatment under the law all over the world.</p>
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		<title>By: funinsnow</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387488</link>
		<dc:creator>funinsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi:

Haven&#039;t commented here for sometimes, but let me say that I&#039;m proud to be homophobic.  Gay/lesbian activities by willing adults is comparable to pot smoking by willing adults.  Yes, the law allows this in the U.S., but we must try to find a cure for gay/lesbian activities.  Sex changes to repeat are mutilations &amp; they must abolish this.  You can call me a bigot but it&#039;s good to be a bigot against gay/lesbian activities &amp; viewing it the same way as marijuana smoking as it&#039;s bad for health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi:</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t commented here for sometimes, but let me say that I&#8217;m proud to be homophobic.  Gay/lesbian activities by willing adults is comparable to pot smoking by willing adults.  Yes, the law allows this in the U.S., but we must try to find a cure for gay/lesbian activities.  Sex changes to repeat are mutilations &amp; they must abolish this.  You can call me a bigot but it&#8217;s good to be a bigot against gay/lesbian activities &amp; viewing it the same way as marijuana smoking as it&#8217;s bad for health.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387482</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel,

Care to name a society that collapsed from acceptance of homosexual behavior?

And you can&#039;t use Sodom and Gomorrah. The Bible is not a valid historical text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel,</p>
<p>Care to name a society that collapsed from acceptance of homosexual behavior?</p>
<p>And you can&#8217;t use Sodom and Gomorrah. The Bible is not a valid historical text.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387472</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel, darling,

I am in no way affiliated with the SPLC other than as a commenter on the blog.

The burden of proof is on you guys. The SPLC has provided oodles and oodles of evidence (oodles being the technical term), but your side? Well you&#039;ve just produced a lot of hot air. Boo hoo.

The tides are turning against bigotry. Whether you like it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, darling,</p>
<p>I am in no way affiliated with the SPLC other than as a commenter on the blog.</p>
<p>The burden of proof is on you guys. The SPLC has provided oodles and oodles of evidence (oodles being the technical term), but your side? Well you&#8217;ve just produced a lot of hot air. Boo hoo.</p>
<p>The tides are turning against bigotry. Whether you like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387470</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo correction: societies not society&#039;s...</description>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387468</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ A.D.M.  &quot;the biggest haters of gays in the U.S. are Christians.

Really?  Based on what?  Care to provide &quot;hard evidence?&quot; Are we become your enemies because we tell you the truth...sexual behavior is just that - a conduct and behavior. Christian opposition is the only thing that stands in the way of this BEHAVIOR corrupting the entire society.  BEHAVIOR get it? Do what you do in the privacy of your own home but don&#039;t CRAM IT DOWN society&#039;s collective throat.  Those who want to do it, go for it and reap the health &quot;benefits&quot; from it.  But stop trying to justify it as an acceptable NORMAL lifestyle.  Up until 1973 homosexuality was rightfully classified as a mental disorder.  Do some research from non-Christian sources and see the mental health stats for those involved in this BEHAVIOR. Better yet check out the society&#039;s that collapsed from such unrestrained abnormal behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ A.D.M.  &#8220;the biggest haters of gays in the U.S. are Christians.</p>
<p>Really?  Based on what?  Care to provide &#8220;hard evidence?&#8221; Are we become your enemies because we tell you the truth&#8230;sexual behavior is just that &#8211; a conduct and behavior. Christian opposition is the only thing that stands in the way of this BEHAVIOR corrupting the entire society.  BEHAVIOR get it? Do what you do in the privacy of your own home but don&#8217;t CRAM IT DOWN society&#8217;s collective throat.  Those who want to do it, go for it and reap the health &#8220;benefits&#8221; from it.  But stop trying to justify it as an acceptable NORMAL lifestyle.  Up until 1973 homosexuality was rightfully classified as a mental disorder.  Do some research from non-Christian sources and see the mental health stats for those involved in this BEHAVIOR. Better yet check out the society&#8217;s that collapsed from such unrestrained abnormal behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387459</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ModerateMike...proof, you want hard evidence...how laughable. It is obvious you do not understand anything about Christianity if you did you wouldn&#039;t have to ask such a ridiculous question.  

Tell you what, if you provide hard evidence that AFA, Americans for Truth, ATM, FRC, and Scott Lively who believes the Bible and speak its words are haters, then I will provide proof to refute the vicious lies of SPLC. Other than that SPLC naming Christian organizations as haters is all the proof you need, check your own source - SPLC - those who hate the truth call truth hate.  

BTW, most of the supporters and donors are most likely all SPLC staffers trying to make it seem as if there is support for this God-hating organization. Laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ModerateMike&#8230;proof, you want hard evidence&#8230;how laughable. It is obvious you do not understand anything about Christianity if you did you wouldn&#8217;t have to ask such a ridiculous question.  </p>
<p>Tell you what, if you provide hard evidence that AFA, Americans for Truth, ATM, FRC, and Scott Lively who believes the Bible and speak its words are haters, then I will provide proof to refute the vicious lies of SPLC. Other than that SPLC naming Christian organizations as haters is all the proof you need, check your own source &#8211; SPLC &#8211; those who hate the truth call truth hate.  </p>
<p>BTW, most of the supporters and donors are most likely all SPLC staffers trying to make it seem as if there is support for this God-hating organization. Laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387435</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

As has become the norm with you trolls, your comment makes absolutely no sense.

Care to learn the English language before you post again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>As has become the norm with you trolls, your comment makes absolutely no sense.</p>
<p>Care to learn the English language before you post again?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387403</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EPA should site the SPLC for air pollution violations of interent and media propaganda.</description>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-2/#comment-387361</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socflww said:  &quot;Hate Speech (n.) Anything speech left wing wackos disagree with. Read your own comments, folks – you’re the “haters”.&quot;  

I like how when we ask wannabe trolls like you how we are &quot;the real haters&quot;, the best you can manage for proof is &quot;read your own comments.&quot; 

And to the fellow who thought that this article is anti-Christian...First, it was not a Muslim group in question here. Second, you&#039;ll note that the SPLC not only does not attack Christians who tolerate gays and lesbians, but also does not attack the millions who still teach homosexuality is a sin.  What they are attacking here is a group which goes out of its way to slander people and influence legislation that would curtail other people&#039;s civil rights based on their faith.  Do you honestly believe that if a Muslim group were standing on those steps, they would just ignore it?

And by the way, why is it so many conservatives suddenly become pro-feminist and pro-gay ONLY when it concerns Muslims?  Just once it would be nice to see Pamela Gellar come out strongly in favor of abortion and gay marriage right on Fox.  With her self-proclaimed objectivist ideology, there shouldn&#039;t be a problem for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socflww said:  &#8220;Hate Speech (n.) Anything speech left wing wackos disagree with. Read your own comments, folks – you’re the “haters”.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I like how when we ask wannabe trolls like you how we are &#8220;the real haters&#8221;, the best you can manage for proof is &#8220;read your own comments.&#8221; </p>
<p>And to the fellow who thought that this article is anti-Christian&#8230;First, it was not a Muslim group in question here. Second, you&#8217;ll note that the SPLC not only does not attack Christians who tolerate gays and lesbians, but also does not attack the millions who still teach homosexuality is a sin.  What they are attacking here is a group which goes out of its way to slander people and influence legislation that would curtail other people&#8217;s civil rights based on their faith.  Do you honestly believe that if a Muslim group were standing on those steps, they would just ignore it?</p>
<p>And by the way, why is it so many conservatives suddenly become pro-feminist and pro-gay ONLY when it concerns Muslims?  Just once it would be nice to see Pamela Gellar come out strongly in favor of abortion and gay marriage right on Fox.  With her self-proclaimed objectivist ideology, there shouldn&#8217;t be a problem for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you SPLC!</description>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-1/#comment-387319</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Socflww,

As has been said innumerable times before: freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

All I did was laugh at them. As far as I know, that&#039;s not exactly hate speech...

But what do I know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Socflww,</p>
<p>As has been said innumerable times before: freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism.</p>
<p>All I did was laugh at them. As far as I know, that&#8217;s not exactly hate speech&#8230;</p>
<p>But what do I know?</p>
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		<title>By: Socflww</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/17/anti-gay-haters-plan-press-conference-today-at-splc/comment-page-1/#comment-387311</link>
		<dc:creator>Socflww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate Speech (n.) Anything speech left wing wackos disagree with.  Read your own comments, folks - you&#039;re the &quot;haters&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate Speech (n.) Anything speech left wing wackos disagree with.  Read your own comments, folks &#8211; you&#8217;re the &#8220;haters&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burt Z, explain how this is anti-Christian. Some of you keep accusing the SPLC of being anti-Christian, but you don&#039;t give examples. Burt Z, whether you like it or not, the biggest haters of gays in the U.S. are Christians. I&#039;m sure there are Muslims that hate gays. Homosexuality is looked down upon in Islam. However, which group of people in the U.S. do you see creating falsehoods about gays and say gays are going to hell just for liking the same sex and come up with bills and laws that are anti-gay? Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burt Z, explain how this is anti-Christian. Some of you keep accusing the SPLC of being anti-Christian, but you don&#8217;t give examples. Burt Z, whether you like it or not, the biggest haters of gays in the U.S. are Christians. I&#8217;m sure there are Muslims that hate gays. Homosexuality is looked down upon in Islam. However, which group of people in the U.S. do you see creating falsehoods about gays and say gays are going to hell just for liking the same sex and come up with bills and laws that are anti-gay? Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip, if someone makes up falsehoods about a group of people just because of who they are, where they come from, or what they look like to inspire others to also have negative views of said group, that is hate. For example, the Pamela Gellers of the world have said repeatedly that Muslims want to install Sharia Law in the United States. That&#039;s bulls--t. The U.S. Constitution guarantees that no religion (Islam, Christianity, etc.) shall be a tool used to dictate laws or policies. Therefore, it would be impossible for any Muslim to install Sharia Law in the U.S. because it&#039;s unconstitutional and the person will be in seriously hot water.

However, the Pat Robertsons of the world want to use Christianity as a tool of rule to tell people what kind of person they should have sex with, how to have sex, and to ban birth control. Whether it&#039;s Sharia Law or Christianity, they both sound like totalitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip, if someone makes up falsehoods about a group of people just because of who they are, where they come from, or what they look like to inspire others to also have negative views of said group, that is hate. For example, the Pamela Gellers of the world have said repeatedly that Muslims want to install Sharia Law in the United States. That&#8217;s bulls&#8211;t. The U.S. Constitution guarantees that no religion (Islam, Christianity, etc.) shall be a tool used to dictate laws or policies. Therefore, it would be impossible for any Muslim to install Sharia Law in the U.S. because it&#8217;s unconstitutional and the person will be in seriously hot water.</p>
<p>However, the Pat Robertsons of the world want to use Christianity as a tool of rule to tell people what kind of person they should have sex with, how to have sex, and to ban birth control. Whether it&#8217;s Sharia Law or Christianity, they both sound like totalitarianism.</p>
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