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	<title>Comments on: After Conviction, Kreis Quits as Leader of Tiny Aryan Nations Faction</title>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-393207</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say you have no sympathy for Stormfront visitors, but you sound like one. Dan, I took apart the stats you posted and saw most forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault arrests in Missouri in 2010 were white adults and the fact that these crimes are decreasing (crime is decreasing nationwide). And just so you know, there are non-whites living in Ireland and the United Kingdom. I guess you&#039;re going to say any crime committed over there is because of them. It&#039;s not &quot;PC&quot; (whatever that means), it&#039;s recognizing that people, no matter their physical characteristics or income or nationality, can commit any crime. That includes white people. 

As for this site, you really don&#039;t know the point. It&#039;s to highlight folks that perpetuate hatred against a group of people because of who they are, where they come from, or what they look like. It&#039;s disingenious for you to act like these folks are not influential when they really are. It&#039;s not fringe, it&#039;s mainstream. I also live in a neighborhood that has blacks, Mexicans, whites, etc. There are no problems here. But go ahead and believe what you want to believe. You already exposed yourself as a racist anyway. And if race is real, which it isn&#039;t, please show proof. Your attitude makes you look foolish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say you have no sympathy for Stormfront visitors, but you sound like one. Dan, I took apart the stats you posted and saw most forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault arrests in Missouri in 2010 were white adults and the fact that these crimes are decreasing (crime is decreasing nationwide). And just so you know, there are non-whites living in Ireland and the United Kingdom. I guess you&#8217;re going to say any crime committed over there is because of them. It&#8217;s not &#8220;PC&#8221; (whatever that means), it&#8217;s recognizing that people, no matter their physical characteristics or income or nationality, can commit any crime. That includes white people. </p>
<p>As for this site, you really don&#8217;t know the point. It&#8217;s to highlight folks that perpetuate hatred against a group of people because of who they are, where they come from, or what they look like. It&#8217;s disingenious for you to act like these folks are not influential when they really are. It&#8217;s not fringe, it&#8217;s mainstream. I also live in a neighborhood that has blacks, Mexicans, whites, etc. There are no problems here. But go ahead and believe what you want to believe. You already exposed yourself as a racist anyway. And if race is real, which it isn&#8217;t, please show proof. Your attitude makes you look foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-393168</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to get back to the main point I initially made.  You really are spending a disproportionate amount of time on the dingbats of the right, and blowing their influence out of all proportion.  I&#039;ve no sympathy for the lunatics who go around goose stepping and Heil Hitlering.  Nor for those who wrap themselves in a Swastika and wallow in Christian Identity or visit Stormfront etc etc. I think the GOP stink as well. If anything I&#039;m sympathetic to the Democratic Party. 

However your disingenuous concentration on the fringe of the fringe misses something that is undeniably the case:

If you want a good idea of any area&#039;s crime rate the percentage of black people is (at minimum) a very good correlating factor. I propose that is determines higher crime stats. Your site ignores a wave of urban crime and decay that cannot be explained away by socioeconomic conditions. Conditions of poverty that exist in the UK, Ireland where no comparable murder or rape rates exist. 

 At a certain point people make the reality that they live in (or wallow in, if you prefer.) grown ups make their own beds, they allow their kids to run wild or they actively encourage it. You choose to ignore it completely, salivating over a handful of antisocial losers on the right. 

Even if white people make a stochastic (you would call it racism, which it is!) judgement that they wish to live as far away from black people as possible they are reducing the likelihood of their own victimization from violent crime 55 fold. It&#039;s a perfectly rational decision to make. Income levels cannot explain this increased threat, as income inequality exists in other societies without a similar disproportionate rate of crime to suffer. 

Where would you live? University City, St Louis or South County?  If you were picking public schools, a quiet place to raise children and a safe working commute, what choice would you make? 

your PC attitude just makes you look foolish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to get back to the main point I initially made.  You really are spending a disproportionate amount of time on the dingbats of the right, and blowing their influence out of all proportion.  I&#8217;ve no sympathy for the lunatics who go around goose stepping and Heil Hitlering.  Nor for those who wrap themselves in a Swastika and wallow in Christian Identity or visit Stormfront etc etc. I think the GOP stink as well. If anything I&#8217;m sympathetic to the Democratic Party. </p>
<p>However your disingenuous concentration on the fringe of the fringe misses something that is undeniably the case:</p>
<p>If you want a good idea of any area&#8217;s crime rate the percentage of black people is (at minimum) a very good correlating factor. I propose that is determines higher crime stats. Your site ignores a wave of urban crime and decay that cannot be explained away by socioeconomic conditions. Conditions of poverty that exist in the UK, Ireland where no comparable murder or rape rates exist. </p>
<p> At a certain point people make the reality that they live in (or wallow in, if you prefer.) grown ups make their own beds, they allow their kids to run wild or they actively encourage it. You choose to ignore it completely, salivating over a handful of antisocial losers on the right. </p>
<p>Even if white people make a stochastic (you would call it racism, which it is!) judgement that they wish to live as far away from black people as possible they are reducing the likelihood of their own victimization from violent crime 55 fold. It&#8217;s a perfectly rational decision to make. Income levels cannot explain this increased threat, as income inequality exists in other societies without a similar disproportionate rate of crime to suffer. </p>
<p>Where would you live? University City, St Louis or South County?  If you were picking public schools, a quiet place to raise children and a safe working commute, what choice would you make? </p>
<p>your PC attitude just makes you look foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-392264</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Make sure you cite your sources. You&#039;ve got to be able to back up your claims!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Make sure you cite your sources. You&#8217;ve got to be able to back up your claims!</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-392262</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no! Some WN dingbat has claimed to have beat me in an argument!!!

If &#039;race&#039; is indeed a &#039;real thing,&#039; would you mind defining &#039;white&#039; for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no! Some WN dingbat has claimed to have beat me in an argument!!!</p>
<p>If &#8216;race&#8217; is indeed a &#8216;real thing,&#8217; would you mind defining &#8216;white&#8217; for me?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-392146</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I don&#039;t think or write according to a script. 

But that would never stop a smug, credulous person like yourself from putting words in my mouth. Would it? 

If that&#039;s all you have to argue with, ie putting words in my mouth, I&#039;ve proved my point and clearly won the argument, as crude and unpleasant as it sounds to your sensitive ears.  Believe you me, I take no pleasure in pointing these things out. I was a fairly conventional leftie until a few months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I don&#8217;t think or write according to a script. </p>
<p>But that would never stop a smug, credulous person like yourself from putting words in my mouth. Would it? </p>
<p>If that&#8217;s all you have to argue with, ie putting words in my mouth, I&#8217;ve proved my point and clearly won the argument, as crude and unpleasant as it sounds to your sensitive ears.  Believe you me, I take no pleasure in pointing these things out. I was a fairly conventional leftie until a few months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-392055</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More nonsensical garbage from Dan, a person with no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More nonsensical garbage from Dan, a person with no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-391757</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

You forgot to finish your little blurb with &#039;Anti-Racist is a codeword for Anti-White.&#039;

I hope this helps.

(Oh, and you might want to pick up some Preparation H for all of that butthurt...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>You forgot to finish your little blurb with &#8216;Anti-Racist is a codeword for Anti-White.&#8217;</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>(Oh, and you might want to pick up some Preparation H for all of that butthurt&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-391411</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 00:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amateur? 

Interesting. You&#039;ve no agenda? Ulterior motive?  

Stupid aggressive people will almost always end up broke and in jail.

That&#039;s why black neighborhoods are avoided like the plague 
by sensible house buyers. By people looking for a school. The dishonest hypocracy of liberal whites, knows no bounds. 

Institutional racism?  Race is not a social construct. It&#039;s actually real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amateur? </p>
<p>Interesting. You&#8217;ve no agenda? Ulterior motive?  </p>
<p>Stupid aggressive people will almost always end up broke and in jail.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why black neighborhoods are avoided like the plague<br />
by sensible house buyers. By people looking for a school. The dishonest hypocracy of liberal whites, knows no bounds. </p>
<p>Institutional racism?  Race is not a social construct. It&#8217;s actually real.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-390254</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiwi,

Thankfully for us, Jason is a stopped twenty-four hour clock. So he&#039;s only right ONCE a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiwi,</p>
<p>Thankfully for us, Jason is a stopped twenty-four hour clock. So he&#8217;s only right ONCE a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389996</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwiwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aron, Jason is a stopped clock.

So he&#039;s right twice a day.

So the Nazis didn&#039;t kill an &quot;white, heterosexual, normal people?&quot; All those corpses at Buchenwald and Belsen and neat rows of crosses at St. Laurent sur Mer and Bayeux Commonwealth War Cemetery are not &quot;white, heterosexual, normal people?&quot; Or they didn&#039;t happen?

Jason&#039;s starting to sound like the Westboro Baptist Church.

The sad part is, Jason probably really believes it, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron, Jason is a stopped clock.</p>
<p>So he&#8217;s right twice a day.</p>
<p>So the Nazis didn&#8217;t kill an &#8220;white, heterosexual, normal people?&#8221; All those corpses at Buchenwald and Belsen and neat rows of crosses at St. Laurent sur Mer and Bayeux Commonwealth War Cemetery are not &#8220;white, heterosexual, normal people?&#8221; Or they didn&#8217;t happen?</p>
<p>Jason&#8217;s starting to sound like the Westboro Baptist Church.</p>
<p>The sad part is, Jason probably really believes it, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389875</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,

I hate to admit it, but Jason&#039;s descriptions regarding the gas chambers in California are correct. But the gas chambers in Birkenau were FAR different from those used in prisons. Not the smallest part was the use of crystallized potassium-cyanide as the toxin versus the hydrogen-cyanide used in California and elsewhere.

He&#039;s still massively wrong, but he got at least one thing right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>I hate to admit it, but Jason&#8217;s descriptions regarding the gas chambers in California are correct. But the gas chambers in Birkenau were FAR different from those used in prisons. Not the smallest part was the use of crystallized potassium-cyanide as the toxin versus the hydrogen-cyanide used in California and elsewhere.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s still massively wrong, but he got at least one thing right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ithink</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389870</link>
		<dc:creator>Ithink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve seen the door of the gas chamber at Auschwitz. There’s a big crack at the bottom and there’s no way it’s air tight. At one time the state of California used gas to execute criminals and that gas chamber (a real one) had a door like a submarine — completely air tight. The Auschwitz ‘gas chamber’ door also has a window. Not modern safety glass but the old time glass that was easy to break. If hundreds of people were crammed in there them would have broken the window and the gas would have leaked out killing the German guards outside. Any gas chamber would also have to have an elaborate pumping mechanism to create a negative pressure, thus containment, and also to pump the gas out. The California state gas chamber had to be pumped for hours before it was safe to open the door.&quot;

THEY SEE ME TROLL-INNN&#039;....
(White Nationalists---wrong about everything since Prez Thomas J. committed statutory rape on one of his darkies...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve seen the door of the gas chamber at Auschwitz. There’s a big crack at the bottom and there’s no way it’s air tight. At one time the state of California used gas to execute criminals and that gas chamber (a real one) had a door like a submarine — completely air tight. The Auschwitz ‘gas chamber’ door also has a window. Not modern safety glass but the old time glass that was easy to break. If hundreds of people were crammed in there them would have broken the window and the gas would have leaked out killing the German guards outside. Any gas chamber would also have to have an elaborate pumping mechanism to create a negative pressure, thus containment, and also to pump the gas out. The California state gas chamber had to be pumped for hours before it was safe to open the door.&#8221;</p>
<p>THEY SEE ME TROLL-INNN&#8217;&#8230;.<br />
(White Nationalists&#8212;wrong about everything since Prez Thomas J. committed statutory rape on one of his darkies&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s time to give Jason&#039;s historical views the coup de grace.  

You accuse Stalin of killing and enslaving millions of &quot;white heterosexual normal people&quot; or whatever the hell that&#039;s supposed to mean, yet you support Holocaust denial.  The principle claim of Holocaust deniers is that those Jews who did die in the camps died mostly of starvation(yet the guards and the local population around the camps weren&#039;t starving) and typhus(no significant outbreaks of typhus reported by the Germans).  In other words, you&#039;re claiming that the Jews weren&#039;t exterminated, but they died due to extreme conditions.  

Now, those who claim that Stalin killed 20, 40, or 60 million people aren&#039;t saying these people were executed(maybe a few idiots are); they&#039;re claiming that these people died in the GULAG due to extreme conditions, starvation, disease(this actually IS recorded in the early USSR), and so on.  This is the only way you can get such high numbers because we know almost exactly how many people were executed in the period of 1923-53.  

So this creates a problem for you:  You want to claim that famines, deportations, GULAG conditions in the USSR equate to extermination and genocide, no doubt of &quot;whites&quot; which is ridiculous for so many reasons.  Yet at the same time, you think the Holocaust is less of a genocide or crime because you deny that there were gas chambers.  

Contradiction.  You have one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s time to give Jason&#8217;s historical views the coup de grace.  </p>
<p>You accuse Stalin of killing and enslaving millions of &#8220;white heterosexual normal people&#8221; or whatever the hell that&#8217;s supposed to mean, yet you support Holocaust denial.  The principle claim of Holocaust deniers is that those Jews who did die in the camps died mostly of starvation(yet the guards and the local population around the camps weren&#8217;t starving) and typhus(no significant outbreaks of typhus reported by the Germans).  In other words, you&#8217;re claiming that the Jews weren&#8217;t exterminated, but they died due to extreme conditions.  </p>
<p>Now, those who claim that Stalin killed 20, 40, or 60 million people aren&#8217;t saying these people were executed(maybe a few idiots are); they&#8217;re claiming that these people died in the GULAG due to extreme conditions, starvation, disease(this actually IS recorded in the early USSR), and so on.  This is the only way you can get such high numbers because we know almost exactly how many people were executed in the period of 1923-53.  </p>
<p>So this creates a problem for you:  You want to claim that famines, deportations, GULAG conditions in the USSR equate to extermination and genocide, no doubt of &#8220;whites&#8221; which is ridiculous for so many reasons.  Yet at the same time, you think the Holocaust is less of a genocide or crime because you deny that there were gas chambers.  </p>
<p>Contradiction.  You have one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389731</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, had you been on a tour at Auschwitz, I&#039;m wonder how you could have seen the &quot;door on the gas chamber.&quot;  Krema I was converted into a bomb shelter and the doors were removed in that Krema.  Anyone who took the tour would know that the gas chambers where most of the killings were done were in the other Krema, particularly at Birkenau.  These were destroyed before the Red Army arrived, but at least one airtight door with a protected peephole was found in a junk heap. Also, the air-tight doors appear in the plans for the gas chambers.  

Assuming your entire story isn&#039;t BS, which seems to be the case like everything else you say, I&#039;m not surprised that one of the doors got a crack in it after being blown off its hinges when the krema was dynamited.  

I&#039;ve heard a lot of Holocaust denial in my day but that has got to be the stupidest claim I&#039;ve ever heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, had you been on a tour at Auschwitz, I&#8217;m wonder how you could have seen the &#8220;door on the gas chamber.&#8221;  Krema I was converted into a bomb shelter and the doors were removed in that Krema.  Anyone who took the tour would know that the gas chambers where most of the killings were done were in the other Krema, particularly at Birkenau.  These were destroyed before the Red Army arrived, but at least one airtight door with a protected peephole was found in a junk heap. Also, the air-tight doors appear in the plans for the gas chambers.  </p>
<p>Assuming your entire story isn&#8217;t BS, which seems to be the case like everything else you say, I&#8217;m not surprised that one of the doors got a crack in it after being blown off its hinges when the krema was dynamited.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a lot of Holocaust denial in my day but that has got to be the stupidest claim I&#8217;ve ever heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiwriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiwiwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, you&#039;d better come up with some evidence for your ridiculous claims from a reputable source.

Another Holocaust denier trundles up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, you&#8217;d better come up with some evidence for your ridiculous claims from a reputable source.</p>
<p>Another Holocaust denier trundles up!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389452</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the door of the gas chamber at Auschwitz.  There&#039;s a big crack at the bottom and there&#039;s no way it&#039;s air tight.  At one time the state of California used gas to execute criminals and that gas chamber (a real one) had a door like a submarine -- completely air tight.  The Auschwitz &#039;gas chamber&#039; door also has a window.  Not modern safety glass but the old time glass that was easy to break.  If hundreds of people were crammed in there them would have broken the window and the gas would have leaked out killing the German guards outside.  Any gas chamber would also have to have an elaborate pumping mechanism to create a negative pressure, thus containment, and also to pump the gas out.  The California state gas chamber had to be pumped for hours before it was safe to open the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the door of the gas chamber at Auschwitz.  There&#8217;s a big crack at the bottom and there&#8217;s no way it&#8217;s air tight.  At one time the state of California used gas to execute criminals and that gas chamber (a real one) had a door like a submarine &#8212; completely air tight.  The Auschwitz &#8216;gas chamber&#8217; door also has a window.  Not modern safety glass but the old time glass that was easy to break.  If hundreds of people were crammed in there them would have broken the window and the gas would have leaked out killing the German guards outside.  Any gas chamber would also have to have an elaborate pumping mechanism to create a negative pressure, thus containment, and also to pump the gas out.  The California state gas chamber had to be pumped for hours before it was safe to open the door.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389392</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really didn&#039;t think I needed to point this out, but Jason, you just failed history class.  F-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really didn&#8217;t think I needed to point this out, but Jason, you just failed history class.  F-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389391</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, A.D.M.  He probably wasn&#039;t expecting you to actually check his numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, A.D.M.  He probably wasn&#8217;t expecting you to actually check his numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389312</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

Ape/human hybrid supermen? Wow. In a lifetime spent studying every aspect of the Second World War, this is a new one to me.

Maybe you need to cut down on your LSD intake, hmmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>Ape/human hybrid supermen? Wow. In a lifetime spent studying every aspect of the Second World War, this is a new one to me.</p>
<p>Maybe you need to cut down on your LSD intake, hmmm?</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389245</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing, Dan, the idea of you calling anybody evil is laughable. Given the kind of mentality you have, I&#039;d say you&#039;re the evil one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing, Dan, the idea of you calling anybody evil is laughable. Given the kind of mentality you have, I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re the evil one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan Amirkhanov</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389105</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruslan Amirkhanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, did you remember to control for income and population density when doing your little amateur criminology study?  And you can cry all you want, but institutional racism is a proven fact.  The ghettos were created by decades of policies which had nothing to do with the wishes of black folks.  

If you deny that economics and other factors are responsible for this, you&#039;re going to have a hard time explaining why lily white Eastern European countries went from virtually crime-free to crime-ridden in a short amount of time since the late 80&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, did you remember to control for income and population density when doing your little amateur criminology study?  And you can cry all you want, but institutional racism is a proven fact.  The ghettos were created by decades of policies which had nothing to do with the wishes of black folks.  </p>
<p>If you deny that economics and other factors are responsible for this, you&#8217;re going to have a hard time explaining why lily white Eastern European countries went from virtually crime-free to crime-ridden in a short amount of time since the late 80&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-389019</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think those in the WN movement who revel in their pure white heritage would be in for a big surprise if they submitted themselves to DNA tests.The number of those who actually had a clean sheet, no pun intended, would probably be unable to field a baseball team, even if they added Jason Smith to their roster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think those in the WN movement who revel in their pure white heritage would be in for a big surprise if they submitted themselves to DNA tests.The number of those who actually had a clean sheet, no pun intended, would probably be unable to field a baseball team, even if they added Jason Smith to their roster.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwiwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-388988</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwiwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually feel a sense of pity for Kreis and the rest of those guys. They have a passion, misplaced as it is, and they are wasting their passion and energy on a crusade that is not worth the candle.

If they put that passion into positive works -- and there are plenty to do, left, right, and center -- their energy could do some good in the world.

Instead they waste their lives, and drag other lives down with them. It&#039;s a sadness and a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually feel a sense of pity for Kreis and the rest of those guys. They have a passion, misplaced as it is, and they are wasting their passion and energy on a crusade that is not worth the candle.</p>
<p>If they put that passion into positive works &#8212; and there are plenty to do, left, right, and center &#8212; their energy could do some good in the world.</p>
<p>Instead they waste their lives, and drag other lives down with them. It&#8217;s a sadness and a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-388932</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at the graph in the first link again and it showed that over 50% of forcible rape arrests were white adults ans 52% burglary arrests were white adults in the state of Missouri in 2010, the most recent. 

http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/SAC/pdf/2010CrimeInMO.pdf

You need to do your homework better, dude. Of course, it also showed all those crimes are decreasing. But I&#039;m not like you. I don&#039;t make conclusions of an entire group of people due to the actions of a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the graph in the first link again and it showed that over 50% of forcible rape arrests were white adults ans 52% burglary arrests were white adults in the state of Missouri in 2010, the most recent. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/SAC/pdf/2010CrimeInMO.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.g.....meInMO.pdf</a></p>
<p>You need to do your homework better, dude. Of course, it also showed all those crimes are decreasing. But I&#8217;m not like you. I don&#8217;t make conclusions of an entire group of people due to the actions of a few.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-388929</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the closing days of WWII the Soviet army was an entire army of rapists.  Stalin had a secret agreement with Churchill and Roosevelt to take 4 million German civilians as slaves to Siberia to work in the Gulags --- German women, old people teenagers, children.  German babies were even taken for medical experiments.  Stalin has a nightmarish dream of breeding humans with gorillas to create a super race of human/ape hybrids, which of course, failed.  Read yourself in the Yalta agreement.  It says the Soviets can take civilians as &#039;labor in kind&#039; --- meaning SLAVES!  Slaves to work in the gold mines of Kolyma in Eastern Siberia!  Or digging Uranium in the Ore mountains of the Czeck republic --- children, women, young girls, all German civilians.  Then, after the war, the Communists built their fake gas chambers and crematorium at Auschwitz -- like a Hollywood movie prop.  All lies!  Your entire narrative of history is a lie.  They created their fake Holocaust myth as a cover story, to cover up their OWN atrocities against civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the closing days of WWII the Soviet army was an entire army of rapists.  Stalin had a secret agreement with Churchill and Roosevelt to take 4 million German civilians as slaves to Siberia to work in the Gulags &#8212; German women, old people teenagers, children.  German babies were even taken for medical experiments.  Stalin has a nightmarish dream of breeding humans with gorillas to create a super race of human/ape hybrids, which of course, failed.  Read yourself in the Yalta agreement.  It says the Soviets can take civilians as &#8216;labor in kind&#8217; &#8212; meaning SLAVES!  Slaves to work in the gold mines of Kolyma in Eastern Siberia!  Or digging Uranium in the Ore mountains of the Czeck republic &#8212; children, women, young girls, all German civilians.  Then, after the war, the Communists built their fake gas chambers and crematorium at Auschwitz &#8212; like a Hollywood movie prop.  All lies!  Your entire narrative of history is a lie.  They created their fake Holocaust myth as a cover story, to cover up their OWN atrocities against civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-388922</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like the self delusion of WNs is dangerous.</description>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-388914</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I saw the graph in the first link. It actually shows whites committed more aggravated assaults and robberies. It also showed whites and blacks are pretty much even in the categories. So your idea that whites don&#039;t commit crimes or one group commits all the crimes is false. And the second link does not have anything concerning ethnicity. Like I said, I&#039;m glad you don&#039;t hide who you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I saw the graph in the first link. It actually shows whites committed more aggravated assaults and robberies. It also showed whites and blacks are pretty much even in the categories. So your idea that whites don&#8217;t commit crimes or one group commits all the crimes is false. And the second link does not have anything concerning ethnicity. Like I said, I&#8217;m glad you don&#8217;t hide who you are.</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-388884</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, you openly admitted you&#039;re a racist. At least you&#039;re not like the rest who want to try to hide it. And since you are a racist and clearly know nothing of the civil rights movement besides what you see on WN websites, you are stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you openly admitted you&#8217;re a racist. At least you&#8217;re not like the rest who want to try to hide it. And since you are a racist and clearly know nothing of the civil rights movement besides what you see on WN websites, you are stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-388874</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me take it out of the realm of anecdotes then. That&#039;s fine by me. 

Take the crime stats of St Louis: A city with a population that is about 50-50 white-black. 

The black population is responsible for approx 78% of sexual assault and rape. 92% of homicide, 93% of robbery, 87% of assault, 82% of burglary. 

http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/SAC/index_960grid.html

http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/SAC/pdf/countyPDF/St%20Louis%20City.pdf

I can begin to detail the lethal cases if you like. The self delusion of liberal opinion is itself dangerous. It&#039;s also willfully blind to the obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me take it out of the realm of anecdotes then. That&#8217;s fine by me. </p>
<p>Take the crime stats of St Louis: A city with a population that is about 50-50 white-black. </p>
<p>The black population is responsible for approx 78% of sexual assault and rape. 92% of homicide, 93% of robbery, 87% of assault, 82% of burglary. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/SAC/index_960grid.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.g.....0grid.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/SAC/pdf/countyPDF/St%20Louis%20City.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.g.....20City.pdf</a></p>
<p>I can begin to detail the lethal cases if you like. The self delusion of liberal opinion is itself dangerous. It&#8217;s also willfully blind to the obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: ModerateMike</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/01/19/after-conviction-kreis-quits-as-leader-of-tiny-aryan-nations-faction/comment-page-1/#comment-388869</link>
		<dc:creator>ModerateMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s actually an ideology of victimhood drilled into people from kindergarten onwards.&quot;

So who is doing the drilling? Watch the movie &quot;Waiting for Superman&quot; and you may get some insight into this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s actually an ideology of victimhood drilled into people from kindergarten onwards.&#8221;</p>
<p>So who is doing the drilling? Watch the movie &#8220;Waiting for Superman&#8221; and you may get some insight into this.</p>
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