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Birther Farce Proceeds in Georgia, Minus President and Basis in Reality
Adding an extra layer of surreality to the already farcical Georgia proceedings regarding President Obama’s constitutional eligibility for office, neither the defendant nor his counsel appeared at this morning’s hearing before an administrative law judge.
Yesterday, Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp refused a last-minute request by the president’s attorney to cancel the hearing. Arguing that the administrative judge, Michael Malihi, has “exercised no control whatsoever over this proceeding,” Obama lawyer Michael Jablonski asked Kemp to “bring an end to this baseless, costly and unproductive hearing” before it further debased his office and the reputation of Georgia.
Kemp declined, writing that “if you and your client choose to suspend your participation in the … proceedings, please understand that you do so at your own peril.”
Thus warned, the president and his counsel both chose not to appear.
Fortunately, Orly Taitz – one of three lawyers to present “evidence” this morning – is a talented performance artist. Dressed in a somber black suit, platinum hair sprayed firmly aloft, the “birther queen” took center stage after brief presentations by two attorneys whose arguments rested on the nonsensical theory that the president is not a “natural born citizen” because his father was not a U.S. citizen.
Taitz stuck with her usual arguments, proclaiming that the president’s birth certificate is a forgery and that the man in the White House is actually Indonesian citizen Barry Soetoro. After questioning her witnesses so ineptly that the judge several times interrupted and asked her to reframe her queries, Taitz ascended to the witness stand herself and began a rambling speech about the alleged fraud in the White House. Mahili cut her short, asking that she put the rest of her testimony in writing and move on to closing arguments.
She did so with gusto. Alluding inexplicably to the hard-won voting rights of women and blacks, Taitz presented herself as a civil rights crusader, fighting on behalf of clients whose right to vote for a “legitimate” candidate was being trampled by a conspiratorial government that refused to hear their pleas.
Before stepping down, she asked the judge to hold Obama in contempt for refusing to appear in court. (In fact, Malihi does not have the power to hold the president – or anyone else – in contempt, and will have to refer the matter to a state trial judge.) Thanking her for her presentation, the judge banged the gavel and the courtroom emptied.
on January 26th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Reading this website for a while, I’ve realized that what they do is they only present stories that ‘match’ their worldview and their narrative. Topics and stories that do not ‘match’ are simply never discussed. There are 320 million people in America. That means there are 320 million stories everyday. This latest story just made me yawn. It doesn’t matter. I could just as easily find a story that matches my worldview and post that on a blog. I read the website of American Renaissance and the Council of Conservative Citizens daily and they have stories about White people being attacked by non-Whites daily. There are endless cases of Whites being attacked by Blacks, murdered by Blacks, raped and so on. These crimes are happening daily all over this country. The SPLC never talks about it. Why? It doesn’t ‘fit’ their worldview? This is stupid. Thank God for the Internet. Now we can finally get these stories out.
on January 26th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Jason Smith, I just want to make sure I am clear about something. Youre not upset that the stories that appear here are untrue. Youre just upset that the stories are true and being written and published. Right?
on January 26th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Jason Smith SPLC ignores the nonsense published by the CCC (aka White Citizens Council aka KKK) and the nazis at American Renaissance because they are generally fabrications, exaggerations, or simply damned lies. Perhaps you should spend your days investigating the “320 million stories” instead of coming here and making a jackass of yourself.
on January 26th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
^^ woooooowwwwwww…….
on January 26th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Jason, I have to ask… After reading comment after comment by you on this website, and seeing how pitifully misinformed and horribly misguided you are, I have to ask… WHY do you bother reading this site? You don’t understand the articles, you can’t argue any of your points (mostly due to nonexistent evidence and bad theories), and you disagree with everything on here. So let me ask why you bother reading at all? Go to another site which supports your insane ideas and racist beliefs… You won’t be missed, except for humor value.
on January 26th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
It seems that this whole “Birther” nonsense, came right out of Saturday Night Live. It’s nothing short of pure comedy.
on January 26th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
My guess, based on some of his comments, is that Jason may related to someone who posted a comment on Hatewatch which included a link to her employer’s website. There may have been some repercussions.
on January 26th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Jason, I’ll try to explain this simply:
Street crimes are not hate crimes.
American Renaissance are just a bunch of neo-Nazis and cynics who are dedicated to crackpot causes and robbing their supporters blind.
You clearly don’t understand anything that’s going on in the world, because all you’re reading are your neo-Nazi stuff, which is a stream of continuous lies.
If you don’t like what you read here, or the criticism you’re getting, just remember: you started it.
If you’re expecting to win supporters or converts here, you’re very much in the wrong forum. So don’t be surprised to read and hear things that go against your “worldview,” but maybe you should listen to them, because they are more accurate and have more sense — and humanity — than the rubbish you’re spouting.
Neo-Nazi jargon is no substitute for rational thinking.
Hitler and his supporters were very bad, and everything they are accused of doing, pretty much happened, with catastrophic results.
You are probably not a full-blooded “Aryan.” Neither are most of the other members of your neo-Nazi groups.
You need to learn a lot more about the world. Only someone who doesn’t know very much would spout the rubbish you’ve been parroting from your websites.
Try and get out of the neo-Nazi hole you’re in. It’s just a trap that consumes your life. And don’t use so many exclamation marks.
on January 26th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
In Jason’s defense (although he doesn’t need it),
I have to ask, where is the SPLC Hatewatch story on the recent arrest (to quote the Huffington Post) of “56-year-old David Haddad of Chelsea, Jewish but non-practicing, suspected of making hateful phone calls to three elderly Jewish women, and may be responsible for anti-Semitic graffiti and vandalism in Chelsea and an Orthodox Brooklyn neighborhood.
Or a story on Mr. Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, who published an op-ed in his weekly newspaper calling for the Israeli PM to “give the go-ahead for US-based Mossad agents to take out a president (Obama) deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.”
We’ll wait.
Also, to all of You who question why persons such as Jason and I would post to this site, and not elsewhere, understand that for us, this is The Arena, The Marketplace of Ideas. We use this site to hone our arguments, which can not be done at the other sites that some of you have so graciously recommended.
Although You folks ridicule speech with which you do not agree, we come here for the sheer enjoy of angering You.
I know that I can not and will not convince any of You of the wrong-headedness of Your multiple ill-conceived, comfortably bourgeoisie, limousine liberal multi-cultural/socialist fantasies.
But guess what, You don’t matter.
The people I look to convince are my fellow white/European Americans who are still ignorant (how?!!! I don’t know) of what You people are doing to this once great and proud nation.
Once enough of Us are awake, We can stop you from turning America into another Zimbabwe or Haiti – or least heartland America. … Unfortunately, the northeast, left coast, and various blighted, irredeemable urban areas, may have to be abandoned to You and your ilk.
At that point, We will say to You, “Good Luck. Have fun growing Your own food, and hope You can defend Yourself and Your family … You do own a gun, right?”
on January 26th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
I had to come out of retirement for this latest gem.
” I could just as easily find a story that matches my worldview and post that on a blog.”
Yes, and that’s exactly what you do. You decide to ignore evidence and facts which don’t fit your worldview and limit your information to a very small circle of sources. Sure beats thinking!
“There are endless cases of Whites being attacked by Blacks, murdered by Blacks, raped and so on. These crimes are happening daily all over this country. The SPLC never talks about it. Why? It doesn’t ‘fit’ their worldview? ”
Actually the cases aren’t “endless.” Most crime is intra-racial and in the case of rape, the victim usually knows her attacker, meaning most precious white women are raped by white men. Violent crime by the way, has been going down since the 1990′s. Not that you’re glad to hear that or anything. Rape, murder, and other street crime aren’t in the purview of the SPLC, which deals with political matters such as domestic terrorism.
I think what you don’t like is that SPLC shines a light on the pathetic world of White Nationalism. They have been known to go straight to the sources where WNs congregate and expose the more embarrassing aspects of your “movement.”
on January 26th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Hey be nice to Jason, it’s not nice to pick on disadvantaged people, and I look forward to his posts for the comedic value.
on January 27th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Woland America is still great and proud. We’re only ashamed of folks like you and “You don’t matter.”
on January 27th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Woland, you’re not honing your arguments. You’re only honing your self-importance in the nanobot you call your mind. Why don’t you simply hone your grammar, spelling, and punctuation? A good many people here are more literate than you, and you would do well to learn from them.
For my part, I was born in “The Heartland”, and it’s too good a place to cede to people like you.
on January 27th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
To Steve, Mitch, and everybody else who responded to my post. Of course, I want to live in a white society. I’m sure people in Japan want their society to remain Japanese. This is normal, natural, and healthy. There is nothing wrong with my beliefs. Recently I saw a photo in a magazine of a street scene in a major city in China. There were hundreds of people in this photo. Everyone was Chinese. They were of a single race. When liberals such as yourselves however look at such a picture, they don’t see anything wrong with it. They accept it. Yet when presented with the notion of white people living in a white society, liberals react with horror. Why? There is no reciprocity. You have to start questioning yourself why you are infected with this mental disease. Consider the tiny countries of Europe which have been infested by millions of immigrants. Holland for example is a tiny, tiny country. Muslims are taking over Holland. What would be wrong with the Dutch people having their country, just for them? You have to consider the numbers. There are over a billion Muslims in the world. There are now 20 million Muslims in Western Europe. You really think these tiny, tiny little countries of western Europe should voluntarily hand their entire society over to these alien invaders. You think it is good. You think that anyone like myself who says it’s not good, is a bad person. You call me a ‘racist’. Why? You are crazy people. This is a mental illness you are infected with. There’s something wrong with your thinking.
on January 27th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Jason,
Look up the term ‘projection’ as it relates to psychology.
That is all.
on January 27th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Wow Jason, you actually responded to a post. Now let me lay some facts on you.
Japanese and “white” are two different things. You are comparing apples to oranges here. A better comparison would be Japanese to say, Norwegian. The fact that you don’t realize this shows that you haven’t spent any time in Europe.
As for China, you really picked a bad example there. People in China can call themselves “Chinese”, but the word is really Zhongguo ren, which can be loosely translated as “China person” or even more literally- “Middle(Central country) person”. Why is that important? Because the “real” Chinese are the Han, and there are about 56 other minorities in China. When you looked at that photo you had absolutely no idea if some of them are Han or possibly Mongol, Manchu, Uygur, or whatever. China gives autonomy to minorities; they are not subject to the one-child policy and they get preferential placement in universities- that’s right, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. For more details, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhonghua_Minzu
Third, “Muslims” are not a race. Millions of Muslims are either of European or Indo-European ancestry, and even many who call themselves other things(particularly “Turk”) are in fact of European ancestry(typically Greek or South Slavic). And no, Muslims are not “taking over Holland.”
“You really think these tiny, tiny little countries of western Europe should voluntarily hand their entire society over to these alien invaders.”
Do you know what the term “invader” even means? By your logic I could say that in 1939, a large amount of Germans immigrated to Poland.
“You think it is good.”
Who said that, exactly?
” You think that anyone like myself who says it’s not good, is a bad person.”
I don’t think you’re a bad person because of this. My negative opinion about you isn’t so much because you believe these things, but because you don’t question them or bother to dig into these issues any deeper. Admit that you don’t know anything about European immigration law, or any immigration law, for example. I know you don’t.
” You call me a ‘racist’. Why?”
Because you make judgments about people based on “race.”
“You are crazy people. This is a mental illness you are infected with. There’s something wrong with your thinking.”
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. The whole world is crazy.
on January 27th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Jason,
By your logic all white Americans should return to Europe where their ancestors originated from and leave the U.S. to the original inhabitants.
on January 27th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
So are the folks taking over Holland “Black Muslims” or “White Muslims”?
on January 27th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
“Also, to all of You who question why persons such as Jason and I would post to this site, and not elsewhere, understand that for us, this is The Arena, The Marketplace of Ideas. We use this site to hone our arguments, which can not be done at the other sites that some of you have so graciously recommended.” – Woland
Hone your arguments? Have you or Jason refuted anybody’s arguments with facts, not made up WN fantasies? If that’s the reason, you need to do better.
“Although You folks ridicule speech with which you do not agree, we come here for the sheer enjoy of angering You.” – Woland
Who’s angry? I don’t sense anger on anyone’s part. I’m not angry. In fact, I find guys like you comical.
” I know that I can not and will not convince any of You of the wrong-headedness of Your multiple ill-conceived, comfortably bourgeoisie, limousine liberal multi-cultural/socialist fantasies.
But guess what, You don’t matter. ” – Woland
Bourgeoisie? Who said they’re superior to you? Limousine? I’ve never rode in one. Multicultural fantasy? No, it’s reality. Everywhere you go you’ll see people of different looks, ethnicities, and cultures. I know because I’m from the City of New York. What is a fantasy is your mentality. But in the grand sceme of things, you don’t matter, too.
“The people I look to convince are my fellow white/European Americans who are still ignorant (how?!!! I don’t know) of what You people are doing to this once great and proud nation.
Once enough of Us are awake, We can stop you from turning America into another Zimbabwe or Haiti – or least heartland America. … Unfortunately, the northeast, left coast, and various blighted, irredeemable urban areas, may have to be abandoned to You and your ilk.
At that point, We will say to You, “Good Luck. Have fun growing Your own food, and hope You can defend Yourself and Your family … You do own a gun, right?”” – Woland
Good luck in your quest to make everyone like you. I guess individualism means nothing to you. As for who destroyed this nation, it’s the banksters and the warmongers who’d rather spend money on stupid wars than fixing the infrastructure that destroyed the U.S. You know, people that don’t care about because you’re poor even though you look like them. If you succeed, what will you do? Make a declaration of war? I guess you want the multiethnic U.S. military to kill you. I don’t own a gun, but I’m all for self-defense.
on January 27th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Yes, this is some kind of mental illness these people are infected with. It comes out of the 1960′s and is rooted in Marxist theory. Their little worldwide Communist revolution never happened. So now they need a new victim group. Non-Whites have become their new proletariat. They see all non-whites as ‘victims’ and all White people as evil oppressors …. Yawn.
on January 27th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Is Jason a Birther? Inquiring minds want to know…
on January 27th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
My appraisal, based on a cursory linguistic appraisal:
(A) Woland is an illiterate with grandiosity and paranoid schiz tendencies;
(B) Jason Smith is a committee.
on January 27th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
I have to laugh when I consider the likelihood that “Woland’s” best friend is probably an FBI informant. The WN movement is shot through with informants and moles and has been for the past half century.
As for your wishes of good luck, it is entirely probable that you will need luck more than the rest of us, as it is likely that you will be busted for doing stupid WN shit well before your fantasy uprising never occurs.
on January 27th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
“We use this site to hone our arguments,”
What technique are you honing, specifically? Strawmen? Silence? Wacky outbursts and saying everything is a lie?
“Although You folks ridicule speech with which you do not agree, we come here for the sheer enjoy of angering You.”
You and you’re fellow travelers are the only ones looking angry on this board. Son, you cannot troll a troll. WNs cannot troll because you are constantly pissed off about EVERYTHING. It’s too easy to make you angry. Hell even today I could create an explosion of butthurt just by signing up on a WN forum and starting a thread called “Heidi Klum.”
“I know that I can not and will not convince any of You of the wrong-headedness of Your multiple ill-conceived, comfortably bourgeoisie, limousine liberal multi-cultural/socialist fantasies.”
Care to explain this gibberish in detail?
“But guess what, You don’t matter.”
Yeah, totally. The people who “matter” are the insignificant cabal of perpetually butthurt white nationalists who are proud of their “European heritage” despite never having been to Europe, and who burst at the seems with white hot rage because the latest Ford commercial shows a white woman driving with a black man.
“The people I look to convince are my fellow white/European Americans who are still ignorant (how?!!! I don’t know) of what You people are doing to this once great and proud nation.”
They are not European. Second, please tell us precisely what “we” have been doing to his nation, and show your work. In reality, all the decisions that have led to America’s recent decline were made by overwhelmingly white men.
“Once enough of Us are awake, We can stop you from turning America into another Zimbabwe or Haiti – or least heartland America. … Unfortunately, the northeast, left coast, and various blighted, irredeemable urban areas, may have to be abandoned to You and your ilk.”
Two problems with this. First of all, nobody is trying to turn America into Haiti or Zimbabwe. The black population is about 12%-13% and the fertility of black females has been going down rapidly since the 1980s. Second, that awful northeast you speak of does a lot better than many white, rural areas.
“At that point, We will say to You, “Good Luck. Have fun growing Your own food, and hope You can defend Yourself and Your family … You do own a gun, right?”
Sorry but your “day of the rope fantasy” is never going to come to fruition. But incidentally, many of us leftist wackos do own guns.
on January 27th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
I was at the hearing yesterday, and besides the catty opening paragraph, the article above actually presented the proceeding in a kinder for the birthers light than it deserved.
Orly Taitz looked like she had never been in court before. She started making her opening facing the spectators with her back to the judge! The visuals were clumsy and badly done. Taitz was arguing with her own witnesses. The judge kept asking her what she was doing, arguing, testifying or questioning witnesses? At one point, she ran up to the witness chair to swear herself in. I never saw anything like it.
I doubt that any non-specialist could have followed the birther case, so scattered and haphazard it was. I’m a specialist and I understood all of what was going on, and why not one bit of it was valid. At one point I whispered to the person next to me: Orly Taitz is now going to get her witness to confess to a federal crime under oath. That was Linda Jordan who indeed incriminated herself when she said she looked up Obama’s social-security number up on eVerify. So she admits she’s a criminal and we should believe her testimony?
What HAPPENED at the hearing was that Barack Obama’s birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii was entered into evidence, an Indonesian school record showing Obama was born in Hawaii was entered into evidence, a copy of Obama’s passport saying he is a US citizen was entered, and the immigration file of Lolo Sietoro was entered that says that his his step son (Barack Obama) was a citizen of the United States by virtue of his birth in Hawaii. Not one shred of evidence was presented that Obama was born anywhere else but Hawaii, and not one shred of evidence was offered to show that Obama ever lost his US citizenship. Orly’s argument was basically: things are suspicious and I need documents to prove my suspicions.
The other two plaintiffs argued that Barack Obama was not a natural born citizen because his father was an alien. This is a crank legal view. Before Obama ran for President, no one in history of this country ever suggested that one could be a born a citizen in the United States and not be a natural born citizen.
If the court bases its decision on the evidence presented and on the law, the birthers must lose.
on January 27th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
These comments are far afield from the article.
I have familiarized myself with the Georgia hearing and what surprises me about this particular account is that it excludes all of the testimony of the other lawyers, as well as the preponderance of evidence that was submitted to the court. Obama has been accused of fraud because of a Connecticut social security number and various anomalies in his birth certificate and other documentation obtained through the Freedom of Information act. This is a very real thing, not a circus act.
on January 28th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Don’t feed the trolls…
on January 28th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Wow
This thread got hijacked!
The story is mr Obamas father was Not a United States citizen
Nothing more nothing less
There is established Law on this issue
Law, you know the L part of SPLC
If you can refute that with a legal argument please do.
on January 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Shorter Jason – Why are you calling me a racist when all I want is to live in a society without Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Inuits, Polynesians……
on January 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
“Yes, this is some kind of mental illness these people are infected with.”
Please cite what “this” is exactly so we can look it up in the DSM.
“It comes out of the 1960’s and is rooted in Marxist theory. ”
(MS Word Paperclip appears) “You seem to be attempting to blame all of America’s problems on the critical theory of the “Frankfurt School”, would you like some help?”
The Frankfurt school developed a theory which, despite being influenced by Marxism, eventually stood Marxism on its head. Hannah Arendt, who popularized the term “totalitarianism” to equate Nazism with Communism, had roots in the Frankfurt school.
“Their little worldwide Communist revolution never happened.”
By 1949 a massive chuck of the Eastern hemisphere and well over 700 million people were living under self-proclaimed Marxist-Leninist regimes. That sounds like a worldwide revolution to me.
” So now they need a new victim group. Non-Whites have become their new proletariat. They see all non-whites as ‘victims’ and all White people as evil oppressors …. Yawn.”
WHO? I want names. It is true that a lot of “identity politics” movements were influenced by the Frankfurt school, but this has nothing to do with replacing the proletariat with “non-whites.”
on January 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
The 14th Amendment is rather clear: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”.
Anyone who ignores this, ignores the Constitution
If one doesn’t like what the Constitution says, one can work on the process of getting it changed – but one can’t change it just by wishing the Constitution didn’t say it..
on January 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
@Jason Smith and Kathy Vineyard:
You have valid points. Thank you for pointing them out. I found a Kenya BC (Obama’s?), that may help your quest. Thanks for your input. Copy and paste, if necessary:
http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.....icate.html
on January 28th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Mike, learn how to capitalize, punctuate, and spell. Ms. Vineyard, please go peel yourself a grape.
on January 28th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Hmmm, hi-jacked by facts?
Google this stuff yourself and try to evaluate based on the actual letters, video footage.
Why are there people who want to remain ignorant of facts?
It is a puzzlement to me, which is why I engage.
on January 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Keith,
Thank you for your excellent reporting on the ‘trial.’ I checked out your website, and may definitely consider me a new denizen!
Looking forward to seeing you back here on HW.
on January 28th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Ruslan — nice smackdown of Woland. You forgot to remind him to head back to VNN to fulminate about Heidi Klum and Seal, though.
He seems to think that he’s some kind of great warrior fighting the one-man battle on the internet for White Nationalism, and believes he will somehow turn the world upside down by gaining armies of converts, who will prepare for the big apocalyptic battle.
Sadly for him, all he’ll gain here is what he deserves, ridicule, condescension, and pity.
As for that racial utopia he dreams of — it didn’t work out too well for the Nazis, did it now?
on January 28th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Wow shouldn’t the WN’s be happy since Heidi and Seal are separating? Should be sad for the kids dealing with separated parents but you know how the WN’s are.
on January 29th, 2012 at 9:31 am
“Yes, this is some kind of mental illness these people are infected with. It comes out of the 1960’s and is rooted in Marxist theory. Their little worldwide Communist revolution never happened. So now they need a new victim group. Non-Whites have become their new proletariat. They see all non-whites as ‘victims’ and all White people as evil oppressors …. Yawn.” Jason Smith
Do you even know what communism is? I love it when people use a word to accuse somebody of being without knowing what it means. Jasom, you’re a joke, but I guess you like making a fool of yourself.
on January 29th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Ms. Vineyard, one cannot be an advocate in a case and also testify.
on January 29th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I didn’t know Klum and Seal separated. In this case WNs will be ecstatic; they will think they have a chance again.
on January 30th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Ruslan, they have no chance. I also heard Seal and Heidi Klum might be trying to get back together.
on January 30th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Jaon Smith you ARE a victim…of your own ignorance and racism.
on January 30th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
“Or a story on Mr. Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, who published an op-ed in his weekly newspaper calling for the Israeli PM to “give the go-ahead for US-based Mossad agents to take out a president (Obama) deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.”” – Woland
Congratulations, Woland, you and I agree on something. I heard about this threat to kill Obama by Andrew Adler. Zionists lack any empathy and are a detriment to anything going in Central and Western Asia. They’re also sort of evil considering they call for the death of all Muslims and Arabs.
on January 30th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Whoa, whoa, whoa, ADM. Let’s not paint all of Zionism with such a broad brush. There are many different degrees of support for Israel. I fully support her right to exist, yet I also support the existence of a Palestinian state as well. Does that make me a Zionist? To a degree, yes.
Do I want all Arabs and other Muslims to die? Not even remotely. I don’t think Theodore Herzl would agree with your assessment of Zionism…
on January 30th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
By the way, the ADL came down hard on that newspaper, with both feet.
The editor-publisher of that rag promptly apologized for his idiotic outburst, stepped aside as editor, and is selling the paper as publisher.
So that case of mindless stupidity has been dealt with. It proves only that WNs have no monopoly on idiocy.
on January 30th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Another point: these WNs are furious about white women with black men.
How do they feel about white men with black women?
on January 30th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
The part of the birthers’ argument that really amuses me is that they apparently have no idea that Hawaii is part of the U.S.! What is that about, I wonder? Do they think that because it has a weird name, it must not be part of America? If that’s their reasoning, they’re really hopeless. They need to go back to second grade and learn what all the states are called…
on January 30th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
“Yes, this is some kind of mental illness these people are infected with. It comes out of the 1960’s and is rooted in Marxist theory. Their little worldwide Communist revolution never happened. So now they need a new victim group. Non-Whites have become their new proletariat. They see all non-whites as ‘victims’ and all White people as evil oppressors …. Yawn.” ~Jason Smith~
For the record, your talking about the Tea Partiers and Republicans who still panhandle and swallow whole this Birther B.S. and that generically esoteric battle cry of ‘taking our country back’ from…those ignoble non-white, non-female, non-Christian minorities who are collectively the status quo, right? Yes, rhetorical logic arrest is a virus, but thankfully common sense and triple digit I.Q.’s are all the immunity we commies need for it!
on January 31st, 2012 at 3:54 am
Kiwiwriter, the sexual politics of the movement deserve a study of their own. Officially they condemn all “race-mixing” relationships, even when there is no pro-creation involved(more proof that their ideology is based on mysticism and not scientific in the least). What is interesting though, is that they often forgive the past of men who admitted to sex with non-whites(usually East Asians), whereas females are condemned often beyond reconciliation.
Will “White Will” Williams was a major player in the National Alliance and was known to enjoy mail-order brides, probably because he shared the belief that as a white man, he was entitled to a submissive white woman who was escaping economic destitution- her loss was his gain. Anyway, from time to time he got into arguments concerning his past actions in Vietnam, as he admitted to cavorting with Vietnamese prostitutes. Now the crime here wasn’t taking advantage of poor women, but that they were not white, apparently. He had his own justification for it, and I would say that most accepted it. Now imagine a scenario where a female WN admitted to having non-procreative sex with black males. Do you think she’d garner the same sympathy? Not a chance.
Erich Gliebe’s ex-wife caught hell for being a stripper, as it was claimed that she stripped for black customers and possibly offered other services as is often the case in such joints. Did anyone come to her rescue and point out that these relations were due to the conditions of an exploitative job, and that obviously these would not lead to mixed-raced children, or any children at all? Of course not. The very contact is enough to make her “tainted” in their eyes.
When you read WN literature or their posts, you can see how they are positively obsessed with the black male, white female relationship. Many of them can’t shut up about it and some describe the sexual aspects in lurid detail. If only I were a psychologist, then maybe I could make more sense of the garbage I’ve seen.
What is also interesting is the misogyny within the movement, which is apparent on VNN most of all. Linder supposedly is the most vocal about how women are inferior to men, and their alleged preferences for non-white males is supposedly due to a higher susceptibility to Jooish propaganda in the form of TV shows. You know, like that program they run 24 hours a day called “Reasons why you should marry a Black Guy and Have many Kids with Him if you Happen to be a White Woman?” Apparently that show is all the rage. Anyway, Alex Linder/VNN’s message to women, “You’re idiots who can’t make your own decisions and therefore must be dominated by us, so shut up and get in the kitchen or pop out my babies,” has thus far failed to resonate with female audiences, white or otherwise, and so the movement remains overwhelmingly male.
on January 31st, 2012 at 8:34 am
You’re right, Aron. I apologize, but calling for the president’s death for any reason is wrong. I’m surprised it didn’t get mainstream media attention, but then again, it’s the American mainstream media. It’s crap compared to international media like RT.
on January 31st, 2012 at 9:31 am
Thanks for clarifying, ADM :) You’re still A-Ok in my book
on February 2nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Orly Taitz’ relentless pursuit of Obama is a Rule 11 violation. Instead of having a hearing, the ALJ needed to fine her, dismiss the case and do something, anything, worthwhile.
on February 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Rule 11 is part of the Federal court rules. This was a Georgia state administrative court, if I understand correctly. Nonetheless, I’m sure Georgia has a similar rule. At the very least, Taitz should be sanctioned for filing a frivolous suit.
on February 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I’m been reading the comments sections for a while, and have come to the conclusion that Jason Smith,is nom de plume. As my sainted mother used to say ‘ if you ignore them they will go away’. In other words by responding so much to this fake fellow, you are puffing him up enough to think ‘he’ is in charge. Poppycock. If it smells like sh!t and feels like sh!t either its sh!t or compost. Compost=Jason. Enough said.
on February 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 am
Jason, you’re all of, what, maybe 18? 19? You weren’t even born in the 1960′s and all you are capable of is the mindless droning and regurgitation of baseless and false ideas of what the world is like. Crawl out from under your rock, get an education, and keep talkin’ because the SPLC and their affiliates use these kinds of conversations—which are permanent on your record and on the internet—as evidence against people like you who are in neo-Nazi groups spouting racism and hatred. Attempting to incite anger, riots, or violence on ANY public forum is illegal, and will eventually bring your own downfall. So keep talkin’ my friend. Keep adding more damning evidence and make life easier for the SPLC and FBI to prosecute. If none of us “matter,” then why do you waste your precious time and energy here, when you COULD be doing other, secretive, nefarious things?? The answer: attention-whore trolling gets you the limelight for all of 30 seconds. Bravo. Now be a good little obedient mindless drone and fade into oblivion where you belong. Kthxbai.
on February 4th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Ruslan, thanks for that answer.
Rebecca, well-put. Jason doesn’t have any more knowledge of the 1960s than he does of Norman Rockwell or World War II.
on February 7th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Look up the word ‘delusional’ in a dictionary and you’ll see a picture of Orly Taitz. And as a lawyer, she makes a great dentist.