Comments on: Surprising No One, Georgia Judge Concludes the President is a Citizen http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/ Hatewatch is a blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center Tue, 21 May 2013 14:13:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Erika http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-400927 Erika Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:35:07 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-400927 A.D.M. - George Romney should have been elgible for the Presidency as a natural born citizen for the same reason that John McCain was - being the child of U.S. Citizen parents (in fact, one of the silliest things about the birthers is that even if Obama was born in Kenya, he'd still be a natural born U.S. citizen based upon his mother's citizenship). Mitt is obviously elgible to become President - parents citizenship is completely irrelevant to persons born on U.S. soil's citizenship A.D.M. – George Romney should have been elgible for the Presidency as a natural born citizen for the same reason that John McCain was – being the child of U.S. Citizen parents (in fact, one of the silliest things about the birthers is that even if Obama was born in Kenya, he’d still be a natural born U.S. citizen based upon his mother’s citizenship).

Mitt is obviously elgible to become President – parents citizenship is completely irrelevant to persons born on U.S. soil’s citizenship

]]> By: A.D.M. http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-400783 A.D.M. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:42:21 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-400783 Thanks, Erika. Also, Mitt Romney's dad, George Romney, was born in Mexico. Does that disqualify him from being the POTUS? Thanks, Erika. Also, Mitt Romney’s dad, George Romney, was born in Mexico. Does that disqualify him from being the POTUS?

]]> By: Erika http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-400393 Erika Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:58:56 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-400393 A.D.M., technically speaking, there were questions regarding whether Chester A. Arthur was in fact born in fair northern Vermont as he claimed or whether he was born in Southern Quebec. There were also some questions regarding unsucessful presidential candidate Barry Goldwater who was born in Arizona before Arizona became a state - some people questioned whether someone born in a U.S. territory was elgible to be president - however it died out very quickly once a court determined that yes people born in U.S. territories are natural born citizens for purposes of the U.S. Constitution. A.D.M., technically speaking, there were questions regarding whether Chester A. Arthur was in fact born in fair northern Vermont as he claimed or whether he was born in Southern Quebec.

There were also some questions regarding unsucessful presidential candidate Barry Goldwater who was born in Arizona before Arizona became a state – some people questioned whether someone born in a U.S. territory was elgible to be president – however it died out very quickly once a court determined that yes people born in U.S. territories are natural born citizens for purposes of the U.S. Constitution.

]]> By: A.D.M. http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-400375 A.D.M. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:27:52 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-400375 Texasrose50, how has President Obama disrespected the laws and the Constitution? And by the way, I'm not the one seeing color. You are along with other birthers because no past president has been accused of not being U.S. citizens even though John McCain was born in Panama. Texasrose50, how has President Obama disrespected the laws and the Constitution? And by the way, I’m not the one seeing color. You are along with other birthers because no past president has been accused of not being U.S. citizens even though John McCain was born in Panama.

]]> By: KheSanh http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-399557 KheSanh Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:51:06 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-399557 Who is Judge Michael Malihi? When was he born? Where was he born? Who are his parents? Does he have siblings? Is he married? Does he have children? Don't you folks find it just a little interesting that we know all of the above info on all the other Georgia judges.......but not him? Why is that? Who is Judge Michael Malihi? When was he born? Where was he born? Who are his parents? Does he have siblings? Is he married? Does he have children? Don’t you folks find it just a little interesting that we know all of the above info on all the other Georgia judges…….but not him? Why is that?

]]> By: James Hutchings http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-399492 James Hutchings Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:22:22 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-399492 This won't stop them any more than dinosaur bones stop creationists. This won’t stop them any more than dinosaur bones stop creationists.

]]> By: Texasrose50 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-399330 Texasrose50 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:46:27 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-399330 What is obvious to me is that most of you do not want to look at the evidence or the transcript of the hearing. While I do respect the office of the Presidency, I have no respect for Mr. Obama. I do believe that the lady,, and her clients, whoever they may be, have a point. When he was originally asked for birth records, he did not produce them until a court ordered him to do so. He had several months to have these prepared. When in point of fact if they were truthful, knowing there was a question, he should have produced them immediately. That would have stemmed the flow of MY questions. but what about the other things? He was adopted by his stepfather, and made an Indonesian citizen, so now he has what 3 countries?? He attended college here in the United States, as a foreign exchange student? And, just for the record, it's not about color, it's about his lack of respect for our laws and our Constitution. He has shown contempt for them time and time again, yet you refuse to look at the evidence. You are the ones looking at the color. What is obvious to me is that most of you do not want to look at the evidence or the transcript of the hearing.
While I do respect the office of the Presidency, I have no respect for Mr. Obama. I do believe that the lady,, and her clients, whoever they may be, have a point.
When he was originally asked for birth records, he did not produce them until a court ordered him to do so. He had several months to have these prepared. When in point of fact if they were truthful, knowing there was a question, he should have produced them immediately. That would have stemmed the flow of MY questions. but what about the other things? He was adopted by his stepfather, and made an Indonesian citizen, so now he has what 3 countries?? He attended college here in the United States, as a foreign exchange student?
And, just for the record, it’s not about color, it’s about his lack of respect for our laws and our Constitution. He has shown contempt for them time and time again, yet you refuse to look at the evidence. You are the ones looking at the color.

]]> By: Leroy http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-399009 Leroy Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:16:40 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-399009 It's obvious to me that the question of the Presidents birth place has been proven. Several people have suggested that the California Bar Association examine this Attorneys abilities. This is the same Bar Association that admitted Gloria Allred and the entire O.J. Simpson defense team. Need I say more. It’s obvious to me that the question of the Presidents birth place has been proven.
Several people have suggested that the California Bar Association examine this Attorneys abilities.
This is the same Bar Association that admitted Gloria Allred and the entire O.J. Simpson defense team.
Need I say more.

]]> By: J Carlson http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398963 J Carlson Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:43:38 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398963 One wonders if Orly Taitz will find any meaning in life after Obama leaves office. There's a diagnosis here somewhere. Are there any psychologists out there that can shed some light on her? One wonders if Orly Taitz will find any meaning in life after Obama leaves office. There’s a diagnosis here somewhere. Are there any psychologists out there that can shed some light on her?

]]> By: jwd http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398866 jwd Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:21:55 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398866 The accomplishments would be limitless such as finding the cure for AIDS,Cancer,World Peace,putting an end to world hunger. If governments maintained their focus issues that really matter other than total idiocy. Lest forget it is the voters fault for allowing the 1% ers to exist. The accomplishments would be limitless such as finding the cure for AIDS,Cancer,World Peace,putting an end to world hunger. If governments maintained their focus issues that really matter other than total idiocy. Lest forget it is the voters fault for allowing the 1% ers to exist.

]]> By: Erika http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398831 Erika Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:00:28 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398831 Snafubar could be one of the first graduates of the new Liberty University Law School ;) Snafubar could be one of the first graduates of the new Liberty University Law School ;)

]]> By: EarleyDaysYet http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398816 EarleyDaysYet Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:28:34 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398816 @Phila: a standing ovation for the dead-to-rights snark in this: "Being as I’m not wearing the legal x-ray specs that’d allow me to detect the top-secret Rules and Bylaws of the He-Man Obama-Haters Club in this rather mild clause, all I’m noticing is an acknowledgment that the United States didn’t exist until the United States existed." I truly laughed out loud. re Orly Taitz: why no-one has disbarred this nutter for frivolous lawsuits, perjury etc, I've no idea, but the funding question IS one that keeps coming up, and I think it'd be quite illuminating should the answer ever be revealed. Thirdly, my parents are not American but my brother was born while we were living/working there. He has a US passport, SSN and a genuinely-issued SC birth certificate. Technically, he's more qualified to run for US president than McCain, who wasn't born in any of the 50 states. Still not sure why people have such a knot in their panties re Obama's status/eligibility - don't you think "the Donald" would've held a spurious press conference by now, to present all the "evidence" found by his crack team of PIs who went to Hawaii to "find the truth", had they found ANY such "evidence"? Just the fact that it's quietly been left to die says volumes about what they didn't find. @Phila: a standing ovation for the dead-to-rights snark in this: “Being as I’m not wearing the legal x-ray specs that’d allow me to detect the top-secret Rules and Bylaws of the He-Man Obama-Haters Club in this rather mild clause, all I’m noticing is an acknowledgment that the United States didn’t exist until the United States existed.” I truly laughed out loud.

re Orly Taitz: why no-one has disbarred this nutter for frivolous lawsuits, perjury etc, I’ve no idea, but the funding question IS one that keeps coming up, and I think it’d be quite illuminating should the answer ever be revealed.

Thirdly, my parents are not American but my brother was born while we were living/working there. He has a US passport, SSN and a genuinely-issued SC birth certificate. Technically, he’s more qualified to run for US president than McCain, who wasn’t born in any of the 50 states. Still not sure why people have such a knot in their panties re Obama’s status/eligibility – don’t you think “the Donald” would’ve held a spurious press conference by now, to present all the “evidence” found by his crack team of PIs who went to Hawaii to “find the truth”, had they found ANY such “evidence”? Just the fact that it’s quietly been left to die says volumes about what they didn’t find.

]]> By: John H http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398801 John H Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:50:46 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398801 How is it Orly Taitz has not been disbarred yet? How is it Orly Taitz has not been disbarred yet?

]]> By: Dave Muckey http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398767 Dave Muckey Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:51:37 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398767 First off, unless one is the offspring of a member of an invading force or that of a foreign diplomat, EVERY child born on our soil is a Natural Born Citizen. (14th Amendment/ US v. Wong Kim Ark) Second, the US does not recognize any other sovereignty in its citizenship laws. The British citizenship laws haven't applied to us since 1776. Finally, Minor was a womans' suffrage case not a citizenship case. Birthers like to take it out of context by cherry picking part of the dicta. "Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow." First off, unless one is the offspring of a member of an invading force or that of a foreign diplomat, EVERY child born on our soil is a Natural Born Citizen. (14th Amendment/ US v. Wong Kim Ark)

Second, the US does not recognize any other sovereignty in its citizenship laws. The British citizenship laws haven’t applied to us since 1776.

Finally, Minor was a womans’ suffrage case not a citizenship case. Birthers like to take it out of context by cherry picking part of the dicta.

“Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.”

]]> By: Snorlax http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398758 Snorlax Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:10:38 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398758 These Birthers won't give up until Obama leaves office. Even though they keep getting shot down, they won't stop. Who is funding them?? Why do they keep tilting at windmills? These Birthers won’t give up until Obama leaves office. Even though they keep getting shot down, they won’t stop. Who is funding them?? Why do they keep tilting at windmills?

]]> By: Jack Wolford http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398757 Jack Wolford Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:07:29 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398757 That's the same question I have. WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS STUFF. These attorneys she has are not spending time for publicity. Shows how many crazy dollars are out here to finance goofy stuff ! That’s the same question I have. WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS STUFF. These attorneys she has are not spending time for publicity. Shows how many crazy dollars are out here to finance goofy stuff !

]]> By: Karen, a tired old lesbian http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398737 Karen, a tired old lesbian Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:20:59 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398737 The suits Orly Taitz is filing are Rule 11 violations, which permits judges to sanction people who file sham cases, which these clearly are. She has already been sanctioned by other courts whose time she has wasted. Clearly, these are only out there to play to a certain kook element that hates Obama for being black. What I don't understand and what would be very very interesting to know is who is funding Orly Taitz. She's only licensed in California, so she would have to have special permission to appear before courts of other states, called pro hac vice ( pronounced "pro-hawk-veechee") This is expensive. The Rule 11 fines are expensive. Travelling around the country is expensive. Who is paying this? If we knew that, I am sure it would answer a lot of questions. The suits Orly Taitz is filing are Rule 11 violations, which permits judges to sanction people who file sham cases, which these clearly are. She has already been sanctioned by other courts whose time she has wasted. Clearly, these are only out there to play to a certain kook element that hates Obama for being black.

What I don’t understand and what would be very very interesting to know is who is funding Orly Taitz. She’s only licensed in California, so she would have to have special permission to appear before courts of other states, called pro hac vice ( pronounced “pro-hawk-veechee”) This is expensive. The Rule 11 fines are expensive. Travelling around the country is expensive. Who is paying this? If we knew that, I am sure it would answer a lot of questions.

]]> By: Peg W. http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398717 Peg W. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:49:47 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398717 *and* *and*

]]> By: Peg W. http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398715 Peg W. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:49:06 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398715 I would advise anyone not familiar with "miliary speak" to search on "snafu" adn "fubar." I rest my case against snafubar. I would advise anyone not familiar with “miliary speak” to search on “snafu” adn “fubar.” I rest my case against snafubar.

]]> By: zrae http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398707 zrae Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:31:59 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398707 Kissinger was born in Germany. He was 4th in line to the presidency for quite awhile. Kissinger was born in Germany. He was 4th in line to the presidency for quite awhile.

]]> By: Jane Schiff http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398231 Jane Schiff Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:32:56 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398231 Taitz's filings in Indiana this morning are absurd. However, I find this a little scary. The Democratic Party this week will insist upon certification of their 2010 candidate named Vop Osili. Here's the punchline in the midldle of this mess: Vop Osili was born in Nigeria. Taitz might be pursuing that as well, heaven help us. Jerry Bonnet has been appointed to be Indiana's interim SOS by Mitch Daniels. Jerry Bonnet was Deputy Chief SOS right before Charlie White's conviction on 6 counts of voter fraud. Mitch Daniels said he's not going to appoint anyone permanently because he said he thinks that a judge will reverse Charlie White's conviction. The Huff post mentioned the next stop would be the Indiana Supreme Court. Taitz’s filings in Indiana this morning are absurd. However, I find this a little scary. The Democratic Party this week will insist upon certification of their 2010 candidate named Vop Osili. Here’s the punchline in the midldle of this mess: Vop Osili was born in Nigeria. Taitz might be pursuing that as well, heaven help us. Jerry Bonnet has been appointed to be Indiana’s interim SOS by Mitch Daniels. Jerry Bonnet was Deputy Chief SOS right before Charlie White’s conviction on 6 counts of voter fraud. Mitch Daniels said he’s not going to appoint anyone permanently because he said he thinks that a judge will reverse Charlie White’s conviction. The Huff post mentioned the next stop would be the Indiana Supreme Court.

]]> By: Reynardine http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398137 Reynardine Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:05:58 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398137 De Vattel is irrelevant. Anglo-Saxon jurisdiction has always recognized jus solis as the primary source of citizenship, granting jus sanguinis to extraterritorials born to U.S. citizens (like George Romney or John McCain) only by statute; with France and other Codex Romana jurisdictions, the reverse has been true. It is the English common law that controls here, where no statute or Constitutional provision says otherwise. Ben Franklin did no more than express appreciation for the gift of a book. Meanwhile, I am not calling you a racist. I'm calling you a demented, lying bigot. De Vattel is irrelevant. Anglo-Saxon jurisdiction has always recognized jus solis as the primary source of citizenship, granting jus sanguinis to extraterritorials born to U.S. citizens (like George Romney or John McCain) only by statute; with France and other Codex Romana jurisdictions, the reverse has been true. It is the English common law that controls here, where no statute or Constitutional provision says otherwise. Ben Franklin did no more than express appreciation for the gift of a book. Meanwhile, I am not calling you a racist. I’m calling you a demented, lying bigot.

]]> By: Mitch Beales http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398116 Mitch Beales Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:18:13 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398116 snafubar kudos on selecting your name. It describes you well. snafubar kudos on selecting your name. It describes you well.

]]> By: Ruslan Amirkhanov http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398043 Ruslan Amirkhanov Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:59:17 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398043 Seems like all the courts disagree with you snafubar. I guess it's because of a widespread criminal conspiracy, of course. Just curious, where did you study Constitutional law? Seems like all the courts disagree with you snafubar. I guess it’s because of a widespread criminal conspiracy, of course. Just curious, where did you study Constitutional law?

]]> By: Alareth http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-398025 Alareth Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:09:20 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-398025 As far as the California Bar is concerned I think they will be forced to do something soon because Orly is facing the very real possibility of serious sanctions due to her shenanigans in Hawaii. As far as the California Bar is concerned I think they will be forced to do something soon because Orly is facing the very real possibility of serious sanctions due to her shenanigans in Hawaii.

]]> By: snafubar http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-397725 snafubar Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:01:01 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-397725 de Vattel - natural born citizens = two citizen parents. Obama's dad was not a US citizen. Period. End of story. No matter how long the usurper sits illegally in the White House, no matter how long you sycophants defend him, it doesn't make it true. You can try, but you can't change facts. de Vattel –

natural born citizens = two citizen parents. Obama’s dad was not a US citizen.

Period. End of story. No matter how long the usurper sits illegally in the White House, no matter how long you sycophants defend him, it doesn’t make it true. You can try, but you can’t change facts.

]]> By: snafubar http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-397714 snafubar Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:53:16 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-397714 Hey Ruslan Amirkhanov, Is the US Constitution a conspiracy website? Is de Vattel's "Laws of Nations" a conspiracy website? Are direct quotes from Benjamin Franklin regarding the Laws of Nations a conspiracy website? Get a life. Do your homework. Hey Ruslan Amirkhanov,

Is the US Constitution a conspiracy website?

Is de Vattel’s “Laws of Nations” a conspiracy website?

Are direct quotes from Benjamin Franklin regarding the Laws of Nations a conspiracy website?

Get a life. Do your homework.

]]> By: snafubar http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-397705 snafubar Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:47:13 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-397705 Sorry moonbats. No where in the 14 amendment will you find the words "natural born citizen". It's just not there. All the 14th amendment defines is "citizen". Not "natural born citizen". Which is why Article II, Section I Clause V of the US Constitution SPECIFICALLY SAYS that only a "natural born citizen" is eligible to be US president. It doesn't say that a "citizen" is eligible. It specifically says "natural born citizen". Read Franklin. Read de Vattal. Do your homework. Stop being a partisan. No matter how much you deny it, no matter how hard you close your eyes...you know in your heart it's true..... Benjamin Franklin, excerpt of letter to Charles Dumas, December 9 , 1775 " I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations. Accordingly that copy, which I kept, (after depositing one in our own public library here, and sending the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed,) has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author. Your manuscript "Idee sur le Gouvernement et la Royaute" is also well relished, and may, in time, have its effect. I thank you, likewise, for the other smaller pieces, which accompanied Vattel. " Yes, our founders are spinning in their graves... GOD BLESS AMERICA. Sorry moonbats. No where in the 14 amendment will you find the words “natural born citizen”. It’s just not there.

All the 14th amendment defines is “citizen”. Not “natural born citizen”.

Which is why Article II, Section I Clause V of the US Constitution SPECIFICALLY SAYS that only a “natural born citizen” is eligible to be US president.

It doesn’t say that a “citizen” is eligible. It specifically says “natural born citizen”. Read Franklin. Read de Vattal. Do your homework. Stop being a partisan.

No matter how much you deny it, no matter how hard you close your eyes…you know in your heart it’s true…..

Benjamin Franklin, excerpt of letter to Charles Dumas, December 9 , 1775

” I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations. Accordingly that copy, which I kept, (after depositing one in our own public library here, and sending the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed,) has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author. Your manuscript “Idee sur le Gouvernement et la Royaute” is also well relished, and may, in time, have its effect. I thank you, likewise, for the other smaller pieces, which accompanied Vattel. ”

Yes, our founders are spinning in their graves…

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

]]> By: Southwestern Lone Wolf http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-397546 Southwestern Lone Wolf Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:42:14 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-397546 The outcome of Georgia's high court decision, is a smack square-faced in the jaw of Sheriff joe arpaio's dubious "investigation" into Obama's birth certificate. I hope he pays heed to Georgia's high court. Its starting to make him and his "birther" scum, look more idiotic everyday. The outcome of Georgia’s high court decision, is a smack square-faced in the jaw of Sheriff joe arpaio’s dubious “investigation” into Obama’s birth certificate. I hope he pays heed to Georgia’s high court. Its starting to make him and his “birther” scum, look more idiotic everyday.

]]> By: Ruslan Amirkhanov http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/06/surprising-no-one-georgia-judge-concludes-the-president-is-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-397500 Ruslan Amirkhanov Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:48:28 +0000 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?p=8654#comment-397500 Snafubar is a typical conspiracy theorist- We're all "sheep" who watch American Idol, but he does his own "research"(reading conspiracy websites). Snafubar is a typical conspiracy theorist- We’re all “sheep” who watch American Idol, but he does his own “research”(reading conspiracy websites).

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