What we’ve got here is glaring bigotry, racism, prejudice, jingoism, nationalism, religious fanaticism, intolerance, paranoid personality disorder, paranoid superstitions, contempt for the poor, kowtowing to power, narcissism, hatred, a pathological lack of empathy, pompousness, obesity, alcoholism, and the most glaring of all – thorough dishonesty, here at this yearly gathering of creatures.

This meeting is nothing less than an ungodly form of pornography being put on public display.

CPAC: otherwise known as the Blithering Idiot Convention.

Peter Brimelow might be shocked if he visited Saint Augustine, Florida or Santa Fe, New Mexico – or if he learned what the meaning of the Maryland state flag is.

That’s a lot of hate from the right wing of the political spectrum.

The funny thing I read in the comment sections elsewhere. The despicable WN claimed that in the last century, the KKK were first to be members of the Democratic Party. Therefore, lamely implying that it’s the Dems who are the racists. But woe, that was ancient history. When in fact, today the Republicans are the true racists that they are.

21st Century.

Erika, why that would mean he would have to really study history. And that would be letting facts get in the way of his racial attacks!

(In other words, good point, Erika.)

Don’t forget that Youth for Western Civilization is listed as a cosponsor.

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Ok. Next question. Why is this website called “Hatewatch”? Who gets to decide what is ‘Hate’? Apparently, the people at the SPLC decide. Thus it is self-proclaimed. What about the 60 million people Mao sent to re-education camps, or the 40 million people Stalin sent to Gulags? That was ‘Hateful’, right? So, how come I can’t create my own website that defines what is “Hate”?

One would think that groups like these, terrified as they are of liberal policies, would be doing everything they could to broaden their appeal in the hopes of influencing the next election. But therein lies the problem: inclusiveness is anathema to their core values. Forced to spurn potential allies in order to prevent desertion within their own ranks, they can do little more than to delay their march toward political impotence. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost.

Next time some moron says “the KKK were Democrats,” don’t bother pointing out things like the southern strategy, or the fact that a Republican president (Harding, IIRC) was an honorary member of the Klan. Instead, point out that the Republican party was formed in 1854, long after the founding of the country, and is therefore not conservative and un-American.

Jason, please do start your own website, where you can define “hate” as a pink centipede or anything else you fancy, and stay away from this one.

Normal people, however, define “hate” as one of two things:
Aversion, as in “I hate eggs” (and therefore avoid them); or
Malice, as in, “I hate you” (and will therefore injure you as badly as I can every chance I get).

Sites like this one are concerned with hate as malice, or with an aversion so extreme as to require malicious acts to effect avoidance, when such hate is directed at what is legally defined as an immutable group (one born or assigned without the member’s volition, or one whose membership can only be abjured by a violation of one’s identity). Furthermore, this site confines itself to acts or incitement of hate occuring within U.S. jurisdiction, which is why it is pointless to refer to acts by Stalin, Hitler, or Bashir Assad. There are surely sites dealing with those; q.v.

“Brimelow, an unabashed white nationalist who argues that white Americans should demand U.S. immigration law be changed to allow in mostly whites, today participated in a CPAC panel on “The Failure of Multiculturalism: How the pursuit of diversity is weakening the American Identity.”

Define irony: Guy complains about “multiculturalism”, says America should restrict immigration to “mostly whites.” You know, because the cultures in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, or the Former Yugoslavia are not only all the same, but they are identical to “white” American culture. Seriously I wish I could offer guys like this a Balkan speaking tour where they could explain to random audiences how they are white, and all white people have the same culture. I’m guessing they won’t make it past Zagreb.

“Ok. Next question. Why is this website called “Hatewatch”? Who gets to decide what is ‘Hate’? Apparently, the people at the SPLC decide. Thus it is self-proclaimed. What about the 60 million people Mao sent to re-education camps, or the 40 million people Stalin sent to Gulags? That was ‘Hateful’, right?”

Oh is it stupid question time already? Ok, first of all, your numbers are way too high, but that’s another matter entirely. People didn’t get sent to GULAGS or reeducation camps because of hate, these nations were experiencing extreme internal struggle during those eras, especially in the case of the USSR. By 1933, the biggest threat to the USSR were your heroes. The Nazis on the other hand, rounded up and later executed Jews simply for what they were, men, women, children, elderly. In the Soviet Union you had to be accused of some actual crime; in Nazi Germany it was claimed that any Jew was inherently an enemy of the nation regardless of his or her actions. Jews who fought for Germany with distinction in WWI found themselves automatically branded as traitors and sent to concentration camps and gas chambers. The philosophy of Germany explicitly stated that for the German people to live, others would have to die, regardless of how many. To let them live, even as a subject population, was said by Hitler to be a recipe for “blood-poisoning.” These people who had to go would have been the population of Belarus, Ukraine, and most of European Russia.

That many people in the USSR were wrongfully accused of crimes, sometimes in connection with their nationality, was a monumental tragedy, one largely caused by the legacy of the Russian empire, the Bolsheviks’ attempts to resolve national questions which often backfired, and the numerous internal and external threats to the USSR.

The crimes of the Nazis and like-minded people had quite different motives. They were based on the notion that some people are naturally inferior and are not worthy to share the earth with the allegedly superior. The Nazis put their theories into practice in Poland but in particular in the USSR. On 9 May 1945, you could say their hypothesis had been falsified.

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Tremley – the only problem with your tirade is that nobody says any of the things that you say “Everybody says”. But keep on listening to those voices in your head if they help you cope with your life.

Oh, and BTW, what is a “white” country? I know there are white people and black people, but I didn’t know there were “white” countries. I’m from Scotland: do I live in one? Does that mean that according to you we have to expel all our blacks and Asians? Are we allowed to keep the Jews?

And yes, Tremley, if you start opining that intermarriage between whites and blacks is “genocide against the white race”, folk probably will call you a Nazi.

Nice cut-and-paste, Trembles. Typical un-original crap.

Rational, sane people are willing and able to coexist with other races because they can gain from one another; in the same way that animal kingdoms often interact, and have therefore developed over the centuries.

Meanwhile, the pro-white/euro-american/white-nationalist represents the inbred tribe violently fighting off progress. They will not interact with others. They’ll close off their society while the rest of the world evolves. And while they claim that their race is the one who invented civilization, the actual civilized whites are the ones that have no inclination whatsoever to keep other races down; instead, they will share their culture and intellect with others, for the benefit of all society.

The “pro-white” ideology is indeed primitive.

You want code words? How about this: pro-white is a code word for anti-evolution!

Tremley, who is this “everybody” that keeps saying what you say they keep saying? Y’got an earwig drilling from one ear to the other? (Night Gallery, q.v.)

If “anti-racists” are so unconcerned with race, how come they only have a problem with White schools, White? workplaces, White towns, White Cites, and White countries?
I’ve never seen any “anti-racist” complain that any place is too Brown and it has to become LESS Brown to combat racism.
Who do they think they are kidding?
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

Look folks, “Tremley” is just a new incarnation of “More of the Same”. This tirade he just posted is copy paste. Occasionally this user would attempt to answer a question, but not being on Stormfront, he or she has thus far been unable to substantiate his or her claims, or defend his or her arguments.

I could tell from this opening paragraph: “Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”

He or she has been posting these lines for several months. At no time have they responded to the question of “WHO” is “everybody”, “who is saying this”, etc.

They won’t respond because they can’t. White Nationalists cannot defend their beliefs or back up their claims. What you are reading when you see that copypasta is the words of a person obsessed with something which is not happening.

I just found out that Google’s a big sponsor of CPAC. This makes me slightly grumpus :(

Aron, you’re right. Furthermore, I have heard they are going to start reading our E-mails, like it or lump it, and if the way you go on line is with a Google Android, you can’t much lump it.

Tremley, there are no such people as “brown” or “white.” Brown as slang refers to a LOT of people who are considered non-white, from Latino to Indians and Pakistanis.

You can’t have all white schools, neighborhoods, etc. because you live in a multi-ethnic nation which guarantees legal equality to all. What a terrible thing!

Tremley, I once read that approximately 90% of “White” Americans have at least 1 Black ancestor. The percentage of “Black” Americans with at least one 1 ancestor was lower (about 80%) primarily due to recent immigration from Africa.

That is to say that the U.S. population is almost entirely a mixed race population. Almost all Americans likely have European, African, and Native American/Asian ancestors in unknown quantities.

Race in the U.S. is almost entirely a matter of community perception – which is to say you’re White if you’re accepted as White. Skin tone doesn’t even have anything to do with it – I’m “White” and I’ve met “Black” people with lighter complexions than mine.

I’m going to contact as many House Reps and Senators as I can, requesting that any of them in attendance at 2012 CPAC leave the gathering at once. I shall ask them to post statements on their Congressional web sites that clearly indicate the dates and times when they disassociate themselves from CPAC. I shall be asking them to post their apologies to their constituents on their Congressional web sites because they regret having attended the 2012 convention that is opening its arms to people like Peter Brimelow. I shall request that they post letters documenting their reimbursement attempts to get full refunds of monies they have spent at 2012 CPAC.

Our Constitution provides that We, the People, are to be protected by our elected representatives against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Core factions of the Republican Party are, the individuals and groups named in this article.

The Republican Party is more interested in the issues presented by the factions that would rewrite the Constitution and the Bible than they are of protecting the Constitutional rights of all Americans.

It is reported that the Republican candidates for president are seeking the support of the CPAC and have acquiesced to being vetted by the members and sponsors of the CPAC.

One has to wonder what the Catholic Church and the Mormon Church think of the CPAC and the endorsement of their candidates by the CPAC and the candidates’ acceptance of its endorsement.

Actually, Erika, if you are referring to “white” Americans with at least one “black” ancestor imported or immigrated to the country, that statistic would be true only south of the Mason-Dixon line. When you get to people whose ancestors are from the North, such admixture is either more recent or more remote: more recent if from a known intermarriage (generally post mid-Twentieth Century); more remote if from the various Saracen/Corsairs incursions of the Middle Ages. No one, however, unless they are from some tiny, isolated, probably moribund enclave, belongs to anything like a pure race; we’ve been getting stirred together by lust, wanderlust, curiosity, and even love, since the early Paleolithic, sometimes even with those purists would decry as non-human. The United States, with its size and mobility, is a prime outbreeding country, and on the evidence, outbreeders are a sight more vital than inbreeders.

Jason Smith: “So, how come I can’t create my own website that defines what is “Hate”?”

Nobody’s stopping you. Create your own place to whine.

“If “anti-racists” are so unconcerned with race, how come they only have a problem with White schools, White? workplaces, White towns, White Cites, and White countries?”

Maybe you should read the SPLC’s blog and magazine entries about black hate groups a bit more. And their articles on both Muslim hate groups and anti-Muslim hate groups.

And tell us again about how whites are being forced to marry blacks. We’re all awaiting the proof of that conspiracy theory. It’s right up there with Judge Crater.

I’ve seen so many lies come from the Southern Poverty Law Center that what ever these guys say, the truth is the complete opposite! I know this for a fact because they totally made up lies about my group! They never called me or contacted me what so ever! The Southern Poverty Law Center just made up a bunch of lies about us and then when I called them about it they didn’t want to talk to me. This is proof that the Southern Poverty Law Center is nothing but a front for a government organization put out to target & destroy good law abiding citizen goups & to spread lies. Who watches and polices the Southern Poverty Law Center? NO ONE! These guys just make up lies and claim to be good people. Shame on them!

HATE is just another attack word used against white people. Its been pretty clever, but ANTI-WHITE is the new term to override HATE in the minds of more and more white people.

Also the issue of white genocide and how this is a policy of the anti-whites who control white countries everywhere.

This awareness is growing

Hey Jeannie darling,

Would you care to enlighten us as to the identity of your beloved group? And how the big, bad SPLC told horrible lies that made you cry :(

Which group are you from, Jeannie, so that we can see for ourselves if SPLC s telling lies about you?

It would help if you provide a web link as well.

Who gets to decide what is ‘Hate’? Apparently, the people at the SPLC decide.

Look at it this way, Jason. Would someone who’s not motivated by racial hatred post obsessively on an anti-racist website, and rave about how he basically can’t stand living among people who aren’t white?

If you’re gonna spout views that even a first-grader could identify as expressions of racial hatred, you should at least have the courage to own them.

Jeannie,

Considering that you can’t be bothered to identify your group, detail any of the “lies” the allegedly SPLC told or provide any supporting evidence or explanation of any kind…why would you expect anyone to take your complaint seriously?

In my experience, people who refer vaguely to “lies” without detailing them are usually blowing smoke.

The SPLC is evil. It is a Communist Organization. It’s only goal is the mass rape of babies and children like what happened in Germany at the end of WWII. Communist is a form of slavery. It enslaves people. This is a battle between good and evil. The Communists at the SPLC are all baby rapists. They are Evil. They want to send our people off to Gulags and rape our babies.

Ruslan: Your country if Israel has a system of Apartheid against the Palestinians. Inter-marriage between your People and Arabs is illegal in Israel. Your relatives in Israel are bulldozing down homes and orchards. Jews like your invented Communism which murdered millions. You are a Jewish murderer and Communist. Jews like you are abducting hundreds of thousands of White babies every year. We’ve all seen the milk cartons. Where are all the children going? Who is abducting them. We know it’s Jews.

Reynardine, isn’t the CPAC motto, “Earwig go again”?

Jeannie, what do think you come off as when all you can do is shout “IT’S ALL LIES!” and accuse the SPLC as being a front for a “government organization”?

Jeannie, what is your group, and what “lies” do you allege SPLC has made up about it? If you can’t be more specific, people may conclude that what is light brown about you isn’t your hair, but your filling.

Sam, you gave me a good laugh on a cold afternoon. It’s a long time since I had so much pun.

Looks like Jason has finally jumped the shark.

“The Failure of Multiculturalism: How the pursuit of diversity is weakening the American Identity” at CPAC.

Geez, I believe Angela Merkel (Germany) and Sarkoczy (France) just said the same darn thing!

Seems to be a trend starting here folks, people finally realizing what the consequences are of restive minorities that not only wont assimilate, but rather intend to impose their cultural mores on the indigineous population.

“This is a Sharia Zone” coming soon to a neighborhood near you. (No, truthfully I dont expect that in the US. But it will be because we wont allow it, not because they wont try it.)

People didn’t get sent to GULAGS or reeducation camps because of hate, these nations were experiencing extreme internal struggle during those eras, especially in the case of the USSR. By 1933, the biggest threat to the USSR were your heroes. The Nazis on the other hand, rounded up and later executed Jews simply for what they were, men, women, children, elderly. In the Soviet Union you had to be accused of some actual crime…………That many people in the USSR were wrongfully accused of crimes, sometimes in connection with their nationality, was a monumental tragedy, one largely caused by the legacy of the Russian empire, the Bolsheviks’ attempts to resolve national questions which often backfired, and the numerous internal and external threats to the USSR

I dont believe my eyes. Kind of glossing that over a bit arent we ruslan? Accused of some kind of crime? Yeah, like the kulaks, the crime of owning land. And the Chechens I believe were mass deported to siberia. Yes, I am sure, all criminals. Numerous threats. Czars fault.

At least I now know your origins of though, Ruslan.

One question. What is the state of israels policy on immigration? Non-jewish immigration, that is? Seems to me a double standard at work here.

Open borders in europe and the US – lets dilute those white populations and denounce as racist any that question this policy – advocated for by every jewish group around, not least the SPLC. But no one talks about the apartheid state in israel.

Please do enlighten me as to my possible misconceptions. I’ll just go ahead and Google that myself.

well I did find this essay:

The Immigration Policy of Israel, 1948-1994

This paper will discuss the immigration policies of the State of Israel, from the time of its inception to the present day. The overall policy has remained unchanged since the declaration of independence in 1948: all Jews from anywhere in the world are welcome to “return” to Israel and live as Israeli citizens. This policy applies only to Jews and Jewish immigration is the only kind of immigration which is welcomed.

Within this overall policy, however, Jews from certain parts of the world are more welcome than others and receive preferential treatment. Jews from Europe and North America are preferred to, and enjoy several advantages over, Jews from Asian and African countries………….

Imagine that! This policy applies only to Jews and Jewish immigration is the only kind of immigration which is welcomed.

I guess whats good for europe and the US doesnt fly so well at home. Hmmpf.

This is even more intersting:

In addition to an active immigration policy, promoting the family is one of Israel’s important aims in order to secure a medium and long-term “demographic majority” and with it the Jewish character of the state against a background of high birth rates among the Arab population……..

Well I’ll be damned. The Jews dont want to be overun by 3d world hordes themselves.

But if we say that here in America, were racist! Now how do you explain that, SPLC/Ruslan? This post wont see the light of day either, but I’ll be sure to spread the word around.

Jason and Jeanie,
Know that you are not alone. Others are out there:
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“You are kidding right? How dare you offer a turkey in return for people to accept OUR LORD AS THEIR SAVIOR. This is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.”

Muns0n015

“http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wajahat-ali/post_2659_b_1111612.html
Pam Geller, the 21st century’s Velma, uncovers The Great Halal Turkey Conspiracy:

“Across this great country, on Thanksgiving tables nationwide, infidel Americans are unwittingly going to be serving halal turkeys to their families this Thursday. Turkeys that are halal certified… [this] is just the opposite of what Thanksgiving represents: freedom and inclusiveness, neither of which are allowed for under that same Islamic law.”

Blast her foresight and remarkable sleuthing skills!

In this land of religious freedom, tolerance and pluralism, it is utterly unacceptable – downright un-American, I say – to allow a diversity of slaughtering options for mass consumers! And allowing Turkeys to be slaughtered according to a religious custom similar to Jewish Kosher laws? Shudder the thought!

Indeed, it is more patriotic to consume a steroid-pumped, undernourished, traumatized turkey hurled onto a mechanical conveyor belt – along with thousands of its gobbling brethren – awaiting its rapture under the guillotine of economic efficiency and other profit-maximizing instruments of death.

That, my friends, is truly the American way!”

Jason, Israel is not “my country” since I’m not Jewish. According to your worldview, we are “brothers” simply because I am “white.” In my more reality-based worldview, we have no significant bond between us. More importantly, there is no significant link between you and other European nationalities, nor all the famous figures you so foolishly include as “white heroes.” You are upset that society no longer openly favors being white, and you have nothing else to show for yourself other than being white, ergo you join a movement where being white is the most important thing.

Secondly, Jews did not “invent” Communism. Marx, who did not consider himself to be a Jew, developed his theories from the teachings of Hegel and Feuerbach, both Germans. Engels also played a pivotal role in the process. In any case, Karl Marx was far more of a German than you’ll ever be.

The SPLC is not a “Communist organization” and I challenge you to find one piece of writing on this entire blog, or the main site, to show that it is.

@savethewhites

“Also the issue of white genocide and how this is a policy of the anti-whites who control white countries everywhere.”

Please explain the following:

1. Where is proof of white genocide? Show us this policy.
2. Who are the anti-whites who control “white countries”? Why are they anti-white?
3. What are “white countries”?

Stouch, lots of people, both inside and outside of Israel, consider its policies to be racist. The UN equated Zionism with racism. And if you bother to look, you will see that Ethiopian Jews frequently complain about racism in Israel.

Jason Smith said,

“The SPLC is evil. It is a Communist Organization. It’s only goal is the mass rape of babies and children like what happened in Germany at the end of WWII. Communist is a form of slavery. It enslaves people. This is a battle between good and evil. The Communists at the SPLC are all baby rapists. They are Evil. They want to send our people off to Gulags and rape our babies.”

JS has not only jumped the shark on this one, he has committed libel by publishing false and defamatory statements about the SPLC. They would have an open-and-shut case against him if they chose to file suit, except for the fact that they allowed him to post these lies on their own website. I’d call that an outstanding example of Teaching Tolerance by example, and a clear refutation of all those racist trolls who accuse the SPLC of trying to suppress people’s free speech and whatnot.

Stouch, Italians have their own culture, the French have their own culture, Russians have their own culture, the Irish culture, etc. That right there is multiculturalism. Europeans don’t have an identical one-size-fits-all culture because they’re culturally different and diverse themselves. People like Jason Smith, Louis Stouch, and “savethewhites” are idiots. They think Europeans are their “brothers and sisters” because of how they look. Wake up and step in the real world. They’re not your people because you have no cultural connection to them in any way. Culture is way more relevant than looks. Europeans don’t even see each other as “brothers and sisters” due to the cultural differences, the numerous amount of wars, and European ethnic groups having hate for each other as in the case of the Irish and the English.

As for evil, I’d say you guys are the evil ones.

With enemies like Jason Smith, who needs friends?

CM,

For Jason, the E*Trade ‘Speed-dating’ Superbowl advert was an allegory for the SPLC.

Erika,

Very funny! I like that :)

ADM,

I wouldn’t call Jason and his group evil, more along the lines of monumentally stupid and ignorant. They’re too likely to be basement-trolls to be truly considered evil.

Davey Duke? Now he’s evil. No two ways about it. Justin Bieber is also evil, but in a completely different manner.

Ruslan – Secondly, Jews did not “invent” Communism. Marx, who did not consider himself to be a Jew, developed his theories from the teachings of Hegel and Feuerbach, both Germans. Engels also played a pivotal role in the process. In any case, Karl Marx was far more of a German than you’ll ever be…………..

Well, they may not have invented it, but:

Although officially Jews have never made up more than five percent of the country’s total population,5 they played a highly disproportionate and probably decisive role in the infant Bolshevik regime, effectively dominating the Soviet government during its early years. Soviet historians, along with most of their colleagues in the West, for decades preferred to ignore this subject. The facts, though, cannot be denied.

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and — as chairman of the Central Executive Committee — head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.6

Lenin himself was of mostly Russian and Kalmuck ancestry, but he was also one-quarter Jewish. His maternal grandfather, Israel (Alexander) Blank, was a Ukrainian Jew who was later baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church.7

A thorough-going internationalist, Lenin viewed ethnic or cultural loyalties with contempt. He had little regard for his own countrymen. “An intelligent Russian,” he once remarked, “is almost always a Jew or someone with Jewish blood in his veins.”

ADM -Stouch, Italians have their own culture, the French have their own culture, Russians have their own culture, the Irish culture, etc. That right there is multiculturalism. Really? Sounds like your defining mono-culturalism to me. If it were all one country, then your definition applies.

“They’re not your people because you have no cultural connection to them in any way.” BS, I lived there for almost 3 years, and still have many European friends. Lived in Japan for 1.5 years, great place japan. No looting after the tsunami, no flash gangs.

Multiculturalism fails when a significant minority not only fails to join the party, but attempts to impose their cultural mores. As I noted above. As the europeans are discovering, to their dismay. Londinistan, for example.

Funny how no one followed up on the Merkel and Sarkoczy comments. But I guess that doesnt fit with the agenda here.

At let me be clear. I have no problem with other cultures, I love quite a few. Diversity can be a good thing, until, that is, the indigineous is overun. Some big open borders proponent (foundation) just declarted that whites will be a minority in the US by 2050. I dont care to see that, myself. And neither does the state of israel.

And yet some of the biggest pushers of the open borders agenda have been the jewish lobbying groups here in the US. Is the double standard so difficult for you to comprehend?

“Really? Sounds like your defining mono-culturalism to me. If it were all one country, then your definition applies.”

No, you’re acting like as if all Europeans share one culture by lumping them together. I was pointing out how Europe is not one large nation and how each ethnic group (Italians, French, etc.) have different cultures. I guess to you if they all look alike, they must be the same people.

“BS, I lived there for almost 3 years, and still have many European friends. Lived in Japan for 1.5 years, great place japan. No looting after the tsunami, no flash gangs.”

I know some folks from overseas who I’m friends with. But I don’t go around saying they’re “my people” when they’re not. You can be friends with anyone and still not have any cultural connection with them. And by the way, there are non-Japanese folks living in Japan who seem to have done okay such as the black man from Mali who married a Japanese lady and had children with her.

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And let’s not forget the declining birthrate.

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And if you want to go into a rant about crime, well, be my guest. I can post some stuff, too.

Louie,

Sarkozy didn’t make that statement. His Minister of State (I believe it was MinState) did. Sarkozy’s re-election campaign is attempting to woo the nationalists and other far-rightists away from Le Pen. Of course you would hear drivel like that spewed from his camp. For what it’s worth, I believe the minister’s statements were quickly disavowed by the President.

I’m not quite as familiar with Angela Merkel’s statement, but I wouldn’t be surprised to hear something like that from either her or one of her cabinet members. The Christian Democrats have been leaning further and further right as the years go on. She’s not a nationalist yet, but I don’t see it as being outside the realm of possibility.

Also, I still don’t quite understand your obsession with these so-called ‘flashmobs.’ You’ve been spouting about them for months, now. Nothing really happened. You’re making a mountain of an anthill.

“Although officially Jews have never made up more than five percent of the country’s total population,5 they played a highly disproportionate and probably decisive role in the infant Bolshevik regime, effectively dominating the Soviet government during its early years.”

Incorrect. Of course they played a “disproportionate” role, but then again so did Muscovite Russians. In the large non-Russian territories of the empire, most Bolsheviks were Russians, not locals. Did you really expect each nationality to be proportionately represented when some nations of the empire still lived a nomadic lifestyle on the steppe? Some nationalities hadn’t even been fully defined yet at that time. Jews were over-represented but the most over-represented group were the Latvians. Strangely, nobody speaks of a Latvian-Bolshevik conspiracy.

“Soviet historians, along with most of their colleagues in the West, for decades preferred to ignore this subject. The facts, though, cannot be denied.”

1. It’s incorrect.

2. It begs the question, how do you define a Jew, and how to you explain how a Jew has some biological urge to take an interest in socialism.

3. Jews in Russia had their own party, the Jewish Bund. In 1917, the Bolshevik party had the lowest number of Jews of ANY party in the government, and the Bund actually condemned the Bolshevik takeover of power.

“With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.”

Incorrect.

“Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and — as chairman of the Central Executive Committee — head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.6″

Next time you want to copypasta from WN sites, take out the citations. What you did was name a few people from a movement that already included thousands. Let’s take a closer look:

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There you see the original Council of People’s Commissars from 1918(this form of government did not last long). There is one person of Jewish descent on it; Lev Trotsky.

“Lenin himself was of mostly Russian and Kalmuck ancestry, but he was also one-quarter Jewish. His maternal grandfather, Israel (Alexander) Blank, was a Ukrainian Jew who was later baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church.7″

Lenin was of as many as five nationalities. How do you say the Jewish “quarter”(actually a fifth, more likely) is what drove him to socialism? Lenin learned Marxism from Plekhanov, a Russian.

“A thorough-going internationalist, Lenin viewed ethnic or cultural loyalties with contempt. He had little regard for his own countrymen. “An intelligent Russian,” he once remarked, “is almost always a Jew or someone with Jewish blood in his veins.”

Source please.

” BS, I lived there for almost 3 years, and still have many European friends. Lived in Japan for 1.5 years, great place japan. No looting after the tsunami, no flash gangs.”

Wow, lived in Europe for three years and have European friends? So I guess you’re totally assimilated into European culture!! Seriously, this is pathetic. Try living in one European country continuously for 4 or more years. Hell, live there as long as you like. I guarantee everybody will refer to you as the “American.”

“Multiculturalism fails when a significant minority not only fails to join the party, but attempts to impose their cultural mores. As I noted above. As the europeans are discovering, to their dismay. Londinistan, for example.”

Again, Europe is multicultural, period.

“Funny how no one followed up on the Merkel and Sarkoczy comments. But I guess that doesnt fit with the agenda here.”

So they are authorities now?

“And yet some of the biggest pushers of the open borders agenda have been the jewish lobbying groups here in the US. Is the double standard so difficult for you to comprehend?”

Who is pushing for “open borders?” Do you even know the process for legal immigration to the US? Do you even know what a pain in the ass it can be for people from developing countries to get a TOURIST visa?

BTW- You failed Soviet history. Better luck next time.

Actually, I made a conscious effort to avoid this sight for the last few months, after I learned that SPLC makes common practice of sharing the names of people that disagree with their worldview with LEO’s.

Check the cover on the latest issue of Newsweek.

Yeah, Louie, you’re so scared of what this organization does with people’s names you come here and sign yours.

Each European country is far from homogenous. France, Spain, and Italy (for a small sample) have half a dozen or more regional languages each besides the official ones, even more subcultures, and quite a few autonomy/independence movements. Quick, quick, what is Arpitan? Who speaks it, and where? How does this differ from Occitan? Who was the most famous speaker of the latter, to whom married, and the author of what body of law governing maritime commerce? European? Uh huh, sure you are. I can trace an ancestral coat of arms over a certain doorway in Freyburg-an-der-Unstrutt to 1291, and I wouldn’t dream of styling myself a German, any more than I’d suppose (as many of you have) that Amirkhanov is a “Jewish” name (Jewish seems, to your kind, to mean “hereditarily disposed to disagree with me”). Sarkozy, despite his surname, is not a Hungarian, either.

I can’t say working for them was always unmitigated pleasure, but if you are attentive, obedient, and diligent, Bwerlitz School of Languages can at least correct some of your linguistic problems. With such students as yourselves, however, don’t expect it to be easy, cheap, or painless.

Berlitz: tiny keyboard.

I never took Russian history, Ruslan. As to Who is pushing for “open borders?”

Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
pdf version

By Kevin MacDonald
Based on Chapter 7 of The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements. MacDonald, K. B. (1998/2002). Westport, CT: Praeger; paperback version: Bloomington, IN: 1stbooks Library, 2002. Also available at Amazon and Barnes & Noble.

MacDonald, K. B. (1998). Jewish involvement in influencing United States immigration policy, 1881-1965: A historical review. Population and Environment, 19, 295-355.

ABSTRACT
This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co-religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they reside as minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences.

Of course, KM is no doubt a racist.

But I still question how a group like AIPAC is so staunch a defender of groups like La Raza, when at home, the jewish immigration policy seeks to insure a jewish demographic majority. We do so here, and are labelled racists……………just as in the CPAC piece above.

“Again, Europe is multicultural, period.”

Yep, and a lot of folks arent too happy about it these days. Heard just the other day, Greece is erecting a fence on its Turkish border.

“Funny how no one followed up on the Merkel and Sarkoczy comments. But I guess that doesnt fit with the agenda here.”

So they are authorities now.

Ah, well geez Ruslan, President and PM? Networked in to all info flows. I would tend to say that yes, they are authorities.

Yeah, Louie, you’re so scared of what this organization does with people’s names you come here and sign yours.

Well, sometimes I just cant resist. When we’ve lost the will to resist, we’ve lost everything.

I am obviously not as well educated on european history as you and ruslan, and so be it. I read both sides of these arguments, take a position, and share what I think I’ve learned. No law against that, people agree to disagree. Thats what makes markets.

Auf wiedersehn.

Lou,

You’ve learned absolutely NOTHING in the time I’ve been reading your comments. You make the exact same comments over and over again, and are intellectually obliterated in the exact same manner each time, as well.

I can hardly state the depths to which your truly enlightened worldview will be missed. Don’t let the door hit you in your lily-white arse on the way out.

Oh, forgive me. I just realized it was Schultzie who raised the biggest stink regarding the ‘flashmobs.’ Guess I got my WNs mixed up! Silly me :)

Mr. Stouch makes a great show of bravado posting his name here, exactly because he knows we are NOT going to harm him, and then uses this post to prove his courage to his witless colleagues, who are scared of their own farts. Meanwhile, I am more convinced than ever that Jason Smith is a committee, probably of drunken frat boys.

I didnt come here to learn anything, aron. merely to debate. as to my arguments, you have obliterated nothing, merely noting some left wing dribble about nationalism and the euro political scheme which, as you note, is veering hard right. Bravo! And hey, if it makes you feel good to think you’ve obliterated my arguments, well thats my good deed for the day.

as for a show of bravado and proving my courage by posting my name, reynardine, no i never thought you were going to harm me. and i dont perceive my posting here as illustrative of either. (I need to be courageous to express my views on SPLC? what planet are you from, narcisticia?) maybe get my name on the HLS list and make travel more difficult, but harm me, nah..

I love you folks. really get worked up when anyone disagrees with you, dont you? witless colleagues scared of their own farts. drunken frat boys. intellectually obliterated.

Come on down out of the Ivory Tower, and take off the rose colored glasses; the world is a tough place, not the mutli-cultural utopia you wish it to be. And be sure to pick up this weeks copy of Newsweek.

I think, Screwy Louie, that you have just succeeded in contradicting yourselves several times over, but I’ll let you try to figure that one out yourself.

Meanwhile, there are enough inconsistencies in style and content in “Jason Smith’s” posts to make a forensic finding that “he” is a committee.

I’ll try not to contradict “myselves” in future.

Oh, and for a site that purports to fight hatred, I sure am feeling a lot of it. Of course, I am not the first to point that out.

Herr Stouch says:
“Actually, I made a conscious effort to avoid this sight for the last few months, after I learned that SPLC makes common practice of sharing the names of people that disagree with their worldview with LEO’s.

“I love you folks. really get worked up when anyone disagrees with you, dont you? witless colleagues scared of their own farts. drunken frat boys. intellectually obliterated”.

Seriously, you cannot make up this kind of shit. Yeah, Lou, you are such a threat that they are ringing up the FBI at this moment. What a narcissistic idiot.

“I never took Russian history, Ruslan. As to Who is pushing for “open borders?””

Clearly.

“Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
pdf version

By Kevin MacDonald”

Ok stop right there. Kevin MacDonald is a well known anti-Semite who cherry-picks facts and weaves them into a tapestry of biological determinism. He was caught red-handed quote mining parts of a book on Jews in Communist Poland so as to distort and conceal the author’s intent. He has at least on one occasion referenced the book Wolf of the Kremlin, a phony biography of Lazar Kaganovich written by a fraud. In regard to the Russian Revolution, for example, MacDonald picks out Jews(people he says are Jews) and attributes their Communist activities to this. Lenin was 1/5 Jewish(possibly), ergo he becomes a Jew. Stalin wasn’t Jewish, so the REAL power must have been with Kaganovich(minster for heavy industry) and Molotov’s wife. Riiiiiight.

“Of course, KM is no doubt a racist.”

Yes, he openly admits this. He is a bit of a hypocrite though. You see, if someone in history did something he doesn’t like, and that person happens to be 1/4 Jewish, or perhaps his wife was Jewish, or his step-mother, or whatever, that person becomes a Jew, and ergo Jews are responsible for X. Of course if some black fellow contacted MacDonald’s American Third Position party and said, “Hey, I’m one-quarter Irish on my mother’s side, I’m white,” well, that wouldn’t fly of course.

It’s all arbitrary, all idiotic.

“But I still question how a group like AIPAC is so staunch a defender of groups like La Raza, when at home, the jewish immigration policy seeks to insure a jewish demographic majority. We do so here, and are labelled racists……………just as in the CPAC piece above.”

Many people and organizations, say Israel’s policies are racist, including Jews. Anti-racist Tim Wise and Noam Chomsky write about this all the time. This is a common issue which arises when we speak of a right of return for Palestinians. Zionist defenders claim that this will cause them to be out-bred by Palestinians. We say, maybe so, but so be it. If they like it they can try having more kids.

Of course in reality improvements in living standards for Palestinians will most likely reduce their fertility; fertility has gone down all over the world recently.

“Yep, and a lot of folks arent too happy about it these days. Heard just the other day, Greece is erecting a fence on its Turkish border.”

Once again you are confused. Europe is multicultural because Europe has never been one culture, nor have European cultures ever been free of non-European influence. Turkey and the Balkans provide a good example. Turks originate from Siberia but you wouldn’t know it from looking at Ottoman culture, which was heavily influenced by that of the Byzantine empire and Greeks in general. Many Turks who call themselves thus actually are of Greek descent. I find it hard to imagine that Greece experiences massive immigration from Turkey, since in the last three to four years or so, Turkey has become something of an economic powerhouse which is in a better situation than Greece has been for the last three years. If you live in the European part of Turkey, there is little reason to want to go to Greece. Anyone who tries to enter Greece illegally is more likely trying to get into another EU country, or they are trafficking people.

“Ah, well geez Ruslan, President and PM? Networked in to all info flows. I would tend to say that yes, they are authorities.”

We’re talking about the president and PM of two nations which happily strong-armed and deceived many nations into joining their new empire. Who the hell are they to complain about multi-culturalism? They are simply playing the populist card to distract from the fact that their policies are destroying the EU. Shortly after this, the Greeks became the new scapegoats.

Who have you intellectually obliterated, Stouch? Let’s say every non-white person left Europe. Europe would still be a multicultural place and the European ethnic groups would still see each other as different as in the case of the Serbs and the Croats.

Louie, you won’t contradict “yourselves”? Are you stating that you are writing here under more than one name? Or are you, too, the product of a committee (which I did not assume, because *your* style is consistent, even if the substance of your statements is not)? Please feel free to exsartaginate.

As an academic with a special research emphasis on ethnic conflict, both sides pro/anti multiculturalism miss salient points.

1. There have been numerous examples of successful multi-ethnic states. The US is one and there are several others, Switzerland among them, worthy of note. Multiculturalism has worked and will continue to work because of the unique historical, economic and political circumstances that surrounded their founding. Anti’s miss this point in their counterarguments.

2. Pro-multiculturalists just as pointedly miss the numerous failures where multi-ethnic states have failed miserably and often violently, because of their unique historical, economic and political circumstances.

3. There is no one size fits all explanation for these situations, and it is reductionism and a gross oversimplification to attempt one. In Europe, movements emphasizing decentralization (Scotland, Belgium, etc) and a return to more or less mono-ethnic makeup are growing rapidly. Violent dissolution is not likely due to close cultural affinity with the parent state and Western traditions of democracy and accepted normative collective decision making. Elsewhere however, especially on cultural fracture lines (Christianity/Islam), racial-ethnic fracture lines, the historical tendency is towards violent resolution of the conflict (often assuming genocidal or ethnic cleansing incidents). The state of these multiethnic modern nation-states is one of simmering unrest and barely constrained violence towards the unwanted “other”. Those states require powerful repressive governments and control to maintain social stability, normally have the more dominant ethnic group in charge of government/economic affairs and repress (sometimes harshly) the minority.

So, absent all the juvenile name calling and baiting, any dispassionate analysis of multiculturalism negates the absolutism of both sides. Success or failure of multiethnic states is very dependent on cultural and historical processes, the close/distant affinity majority/minority groups share and not on any predisposed ideology or utopianism for or against.

In fact, some of the worst discord is between those who resemble each other closely: Serbs and Croats hate each other murderously, and a Catalan will bristle if you so much as use a Castilian orthography for any place or name he regards as “his”. Furthermore, many Valencianos bristle like porcupines if you suggest their language is a dialect of Catalan… I could go on. Freud himself noted this phenomenon over a hundred years ago: it’s as if we see a mirror of our own ethnicity, and we don’t like it. It messes with our sense of identity. Sometimes, it’s easier for people who are less similar to accomodate to each other.