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	<title>Comments on: Animal Rights Activist Charged With Murder Solicitation, a First</title>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-407770</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, for what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;m one of the roughly 4.5-5 million recent college graduates to move home to their parents&#039; home. There are three other young people in my neighborhood within two years of my age of twenty-five. Every single one of them has moved home as well.

As much as I have derided this woman for her serious character flaws, I cannot deride her for living at home at that age. The economy kinda stinks out there, and some of us decided to follow our dreams at school (last History of Technology major at the University of Florida) rather than the money (Professional Publisher&#039;s Clearinghouse Sweepstakes Winner college major).

That being said, this girl needs some SERIOUS help. And FAST.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, for what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;m one of the roughly 4.5-5 million recent college graduates to move home to their parents&#8217; home. There are three other young people in my neighborhood within two years of my age of twenty-five. Every single one of them has moved home as well.</p>
<p>As much as I have derided this woman for her serious character flaws, I cannot deride her for living at home at that age. The economy kinda stinks out there, and some of us decided to follow our dreams at school (last History of Technology major at the University of Florida) rather than the money (Professional Publisher&#8217;s Clearinghouse Sweepstakes Winner college major).</p>
<p>That being said, this girl needs some SERIOUS help. And FAST.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-407748</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erika, victims of serious abuse can sometimes only have positive feelings towards animals, because they regard all human beings as dangerous and hurtful. In the worst cases, even animals are too menacing, and they can only feel kindly towards plants. If, as a child, she was abused by siblings or peers, she likely doesn&#039;t see children as children. In her mind, they are still bigger and more menacing than she is. She likely feels like an abused little animal. Being an &quot;animal rights attourney&quot; is clearly a fantasy- people that nuts have occasionally gotten into law school, but they rarely survive the first semester and never the first year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erika, victims of serious abuse can sometimes only have positive feelings towards animals, because they regard all human beings as dangerous and hurtful. In the worst cases, even animals are too menacing, and they can only feel kindly towards plants. If, as a child, she was abused by siblings or peers, she likely doesn&#8217;t see children as children. In her mind, they are still bigger and more menacing than she is. She likely feels like an abused little animal. Being an &#8220;animal rights attourney&#8221; is clearly a fantasy- people that nuts have occasionally gotten into law school, but they rarely survive the first semester and never the first year.</p>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-407746</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She needs to be committed right away. She is a danger to herself and others, yet her reasoning so disjointed and her thoughts so scattered that, although she might be McNaughton sane, I doubt she is competent to stand trial.

Her parents may have been difficult to deal with, or even psychological abusers. It runs in families.

Living with your family when you&#039;re twenty-seven is not always a sign of gross abnormality. My father, a multiple stroke patient, was a man of some hundred and eighty pounds who frequently fell on the floor, and there was no way that my mother, a diminutive woman with a serious spinal injury, could have coped. As someone a lot physically stronger than my sister, I was the one who went back home. My father lived two more years. My parents weren&#039;t easy people, but I never put a hit on anyone. This young lady is clearly clinicly psychotic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She needs to be committed right away. She is a danger to herself and others, yet her reasoning so disjointed and her thoughts so scattered that, although she might be McNaughton sane, I doubt she is competent to stand trial.</p>
<p>Her parents may have been difficult to deal with, or even psychological abusers. It runs in families.</p>
<p>Living with your family when you&#8217;re twenty-seven is not always a sign of gross abnormality. My father, a multiple stroke patient, was a man of some hundred and eighty pounds who frequently fell on the floor, and there was no way that my mother, a diminutive woman with a serious spinal injury, could have coped. As someone a lot physically stronger than my sister, I was the one who went back home. My father lived two more years. My parents weren&#8217;t easy people, but I never put a hit on anyone. This young lady is clearly clinicly psychotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-406563</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aron, I disagree - the most striking part is probably in 30 comments not a person has pointed out that while she is against killing or harming any animal she apparents does not realize that humans are also animals which by her own terms would make her a specieist.

No one has also made fun of the fact that she appeared to claim that she is &quot;animal rights attourney&quot; either which if true simply proves that the bar exam needs to become much more difficult and law schools need to tighten up admission criteria.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron, I disagree &#8211; the most striking part is probably in 30 comments not a person has pointed out that while she is against killing or harming any animal she apparents does not realize that humans are also animals which by her own terms would make her a specieist.</p>
<p>No one has also made fun of the fact that she appeared to claim that she is &#8220;animal rights attourney&#8221; either which if true simply proves that the bar exam needs to become much more difficult and law schools need to tighten up admission criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-406449</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[12 years old kids are okay to kill if they wearing fur? Jesus CHrist thats sick, most 12 year olds dont have a understanding what fur is and wear what there parents buy them]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 years old kids are okay to kill if they wearing fur? Jesus CHrist thats sick, most 12 year olds dont have a understanding what fur is and wear what there parents buy them</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-406149</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most striking point for me is that not a SINGLE person has popped up to defend her. Contrast that with the article on Ms Marino, which as of last count, has 110 comments, almost all of them in her defense.

How bizarre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most striking point for me is that not a SINGLE person has popped up to defend her. Contrast that with the article on Ms Marino, which as of last count, has 110 comments, almost all of them in her defense.</p>
<p>How bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-406148</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most striking point for me is that not a SINGLE person has popped up to defend her. Contrast that with the article on Ms Marino, which as of last count, has 110 comments, almost entirely in her defense.

How bizarre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most striking point for me is that not a SINGLE person has popped up to defend her. Contrast that with the article on Ms Marino, which as of last count, has 110 comments, almost entirely in her defense.</p>
<p>How bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: EarleyDaysYet</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-406024</link>
		<dc:creator>EarleyDaysYet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dale Launer: &quot;And then there are wack-a-doodles like this young woman. Crazy with a Cause – bad combination.&quot;

Kudos on &quot;wack-a-doodle&quot;; totally agree on &quot;Crazy With A Cause&quot; - the most dangerous of all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dale Launer: &#8220;And then there are wack-a-doodles like this young woman. Crazy with a Cause – bad combination.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kudos on &#8220;wack-a-doodle&#8221;; totally agree on &#8220;Crazy With A Cause&#8221; &#8211; the most dangerous of all.</p>
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		<title>By: Phila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-405604</link>
		<dc:creator>Phila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...adding, that of course she needs mental health care, and I hope she gets it rather than jail time. But outside of a few obvious grifters, I&#039;d also say that about most of the other people profiled here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;adding, that of course she needs mental health care, and I hope she gets it rather than jail time. But outside of a few obvious grifters, I&#8217;d also say that about most of the other people profiled here.</p>
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		<title>By: Phila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-405603</link>
		<dc:creator>Phila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It is much more likely that she was influenced by mainstream, nonviolent animal rights beliefs and views.&lt;/i&gt;

How do you figure?

Again, this is an issue I&#039;ve followed for decades, and I&#039;ve heard a lot more counterproductively violent rhetoric in the past five years than I heard in all the previous ones combined (even though the public, oddly enough, is much more sympathetic to animal rights arguments than it was 20 years ago). That doesn&#039;t mean this rhetoric affected her, of course, but I&#039;m not sure why you&#039;d say it&#039;s &quot;much more likely&quot; that it didn&#039;t.

I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re familiar with Camille Marino, but her mental illness is at least as striking as that of Ms. Lowell. And unfortunately, when &quot;leaders&quot; take that tone online, attention-seeking followers are sometimes tempted to take the ball and run with it (as a brief visit to Free Republic will demonstrate). Perhaps that&#039;ll turn out to explain her Facebook post, for all I know. 

Responding to a different commenter...if mental illness were a disqualification for being covered here, I don&#039;t know how many subjects would be left. Is there such a thing as &lt;i&gt;sane&lt;/i&gt; obsessive hatred? If that&#039;s not &quot;psychological illness,&quot; what on earth is? (Cf. Jason Smith).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is much more likely that she was influenced by mainstream, nonviolent animal rights beliefs and views.</i></p>
<p>How do you figure?</p>
<p>Again, this is an issue I&#8217;ve followed for decades, and I&#8217;ve heard a lot more counterproductively violent rhetoric in the past five years than I heard in all the previous ones combined (even though the public, oddly enough, is much more sympathetic to animal rights arguments than it was 20 years ago). That doesn&#8217;t mean this rhetoric affected her, of course, but I&#8217;m not sure why you&#8217;d say it&#8217;s &#8220;much more likely&#8221; that it didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re familiar with Camille Marino, but her mental illness is at least as striking as that of Ms. Lowell. And unfortunately, when &#8220;leaders&#8221; take that tone online, attention-seeking followers are sometimes tempted to take the ball and run with it (as a brief visit to Free Republic will demonstrate). Perhaps that&#8217;ll turn out to explain her Facebook post, for all I know. </p>
<p>Responding to a different commenter&#8230;if mental illness were a disqualification for being covered here, I don&#8217;t know how many subjects would be left. Is there such a thing as <i>sane</i> obsessive hatred? If that&#8217;s not &#8220;psychological illness,&#8221; what on earth is? (Cf. Jason Smith).</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-405329</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan,

That&#039;s what I do. In fact, I run a worldwide mercenary band entirely through the FaceBooks.

LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I do. In fact, I run a worldwide mercenary band entirely through the FaceBooks.</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Zabetakis</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-405323</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Zabetakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Looks like a near successful attempt by those “above ground” activists that incite violence to influence some sick mind to act on their behalf. &quot;

So, if you were motivated to solicit murder, you would do so by posting to your page on Facebook?

DZ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Looks like a near successful attempt by those “above ground” activists that incite violence to influence some sick mind to act on their behalf. &#8221;</p>
<p>So, if you were motivated to solicit murder, you would do so by posting to your page on Facebook?</p>
<p>DZ</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-405295</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like a near successful attempt by those &quot;above ground&quot; activists that incite violence to influence some sick mind to act on their behalf.  The former are the ones that should be the focus of condemnation here.

How is society to protect itself when people are allowed to reach tens of thousands through the internet with messages like &quot;it is morally justifiable to kill ______&quot;.  How is it really different than inciting a mob to burn a house down?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a near successful attempt by those &#8220;above ground&#8221; activists that incite violence to influence some sick mind to act on their behalf.  The former are the ones that should be the focus of condemnation here.</p>
<p>How is society to protect itself when people are allowed to reach tens of thousands through the internet with messages like &#8220;it is morally justifiable to kill ______&#8221;.  How is it really different than inciting a mob to burn a house down?</p>
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		<title>By: Marisa</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-405257</link>
		<dc:creator>Marisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She obviously has mental problerms.    Of course, it&#039;s a hate crime, but her &quot;responsibility&quot; is obviously not air-tight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She obviously has mental problerms.    Of course, it&#8217;s a hate crime, but her &#8220;responsibility&#8221; is obviously not air-tight.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-405253</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking through the affidavit I think that an insanity plea is on the cards here...though I can also see how her words and actions are only a gnats wing from those of better known AR extremists such as Camille Marino, Steve Best and Jerry Vlasak.  I guess the difference is that they are that bit smarter and know how to cover themselves...most of the time at least.  

It would be interesting to know what influence the writings of people line Best and Marino influenced Lowell.  They wouldn&#039;t be the first extremists to shy away from direct violence themselves but use hateful rhetoric to encourage other more vulnerable, impressionable or inadequate persons to do their dirty work for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking through the affidavit I think that an insanity plea is on the cards here&#8230;though I can also see how her words and actions are only a gnats wing from those of better known AR extremists such as Camille Marino, Steve Best and Jerry Vlasak.  I guess the difference is that they are that bit smarter and know how to cover themselves&#8230;most of the time at least.  </p>
<p>It would be interesting to know what influence the writings of people line Best and Marino influenced Lowell.  They wouldn&#8217;t be the first extremists to shy away from direct violence themselves but use hateful rhetoric to encourage other more vulnerable, impressionable or inadequate persons to do their dirty work for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard E Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-405059</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard E Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think most people realized half way through this article that the woman described is suffering a psychological illness.

I agree with those who find this article completely inappropriate and specious as an example of any kind of &quot;hate&quot; crime.

The value of this article - and the detailed documentation of the FBI sting - is to illustrate how frail the human condition is, and how the mentally ill among us cry out for help in ways both obvious and less so.

And as we know from recent history - eg the mass murder in Norway, we overlook those with extreme mental problems at our own peril.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most people realized half way through this article that the woman described is suffering a psychological illness.</p>
<p>I agree with those who find this article completely inappropriate and specious as an example of any kind of &#8220;hate&#8221; crime.</p>
<p>The value of this article &#8211; and the detailed documentation of the FBI sting &#8211; is to illustrate how frail the human condition is, and how the mentally ill among us cry out for help in ways both obvious and less so.</p>
<p>And as we know from recent history &#8211; eg the mass murder in Norway, we overlook those with extreme mental problems at our own peril.</p>
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		<title>By: Supersonic250</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404912</link>
		<dc:creator>Supersonic250</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric Sims Jr. said,
&quot;Why does this come under the hate watch or from the Southern Poverty Law Center? Do not fool yourselves. Demonizing folks like this woman undermines your whole cause. She ain’t racist. She ain’t for killing folks because of the color of their skin. She’s poor and young. Just like the folks who end up on death row. So, stop with the hysteria, get a pair, and publish cases worthy of your effort. Oh, and don’t wear fur.&quot;

They&#039;re reporting on it, because the SPLC isn&#039;t just about racism.  It&#039;s about all kinds of hate.  Political, religious, nonsensical or insane, racism...  Any type of hatred is what the SPLC fights.  In THIS particular case, it&#039;s a combination of anti-human racism (yes, I&#039;ll call it that....) and a healthy dose of utter insanity.  Plus, it also staves off those morons who claim, &quot;SPLC ONLY REPORTS ON RIGHT-WING NUTS, THEY MUST BE LIBERALS!&quot;

I love it when people throw around the word &quot;liberal&quot; as if it&#039;s an insult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Sims Jr. said,<br />
&#8220;Why does this come under the hate watch or from the Southern Poverty Law Center? Do not fool yourselves. Demonizing folks like this woman undermines your whole cause. She ain’t racist. She ain’t for killing folks because of the color of their skin. She’s poor and young. Just like the folks who end up on death row. So, stop with the hysteria, get a pair, and publish cases worthy of your effort. Oh, and don’t wear fur.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re reporting on it, because the SPLC isn&#8217;t just about racism.  It&#8217;s about all kinds of hate.  Political, religious, nonsensical or insane, racism&#8230;  Any type of hatred is what the SPLC fights.  In THIS particular case, it&#8217;s a combination of anti-human racism (yes, I&#8217;ll call it that&#8230;.) and a healthy dose of utter insanity.  Plus, it also staves off those morons who claim, &#8220;SPLC ONLY REPORTS ON RIGHT-WING NUTS, THEY MUST BE LIBERALS!&#8221;</p>
<p>I love it when people throw around the word &#8220;liberal&#8221; as if it&#8217;s an insult.</p>
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		<title>By: swaneagle</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404909</link>
		<dc:creator>swaneagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find this particular article to be very disturbing. This is a very sick person. To somehow connect it with animal rights people who have committed arson is rather a stretch. I have found several articles off and on since post WTO to be rather careless in slapping hate crime labels on some of those included. I feel rather concerned with a sensationalized style emerging from SPLC that is irresponsible. Accuracy is important and your reputation may suffer from of this rather stretched framing of murderous, nutty people who may not at all be involved with groups you are targeting. I am sorry to see this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this particular article to be very disturbing. This is a very sick person. To somehow connect it with animal rights people who have committed arson is rather a stretch. I have found several articles off and on since post WTO to be rather careless in slapping hate crime labels on some of those included. I feel rather concerned with a sensationalized style emerging from SPLC that is irresponsible. Accuracy is important and your reputation may suffer from of this rather stretched framing of murderous, nutty people who may not at all be involved with groups you are targeting. I am sorry to see this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Zabetakis</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404891</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Zabetakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;when a movement’s rhetoric starts getting more extreme, it encourages these people to act out their fantasies.&quot;

  But this doesn&#039;t apply in this case. What she is accused of is asking for a murder (on Facebook) to be committed so that she could be blamed, arrested, and sent to prison, and she wanted this as a means to get out of her parent&#039;s house.

 In other words, her actions are so unlikely to have resulted in harm that it cannot be seen as a genuine threat. Nor is it reported that she had any connection with animal rights extremists. It is much more likely that she was influenced by mainstream, nonviolent animal rights beliefs and views.

  This is not a case of radicalization of animals rights advocates. In fact the &quot;cause&quot; she is supposed to have supported is quite irrelevant. No terrorist organization could ever work this way. It&#039;s entirely a psychiatric case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;when a movement’s rhetoric starts getting more extreme, it encourages these people to act out their fantasies.&#8221;</p>
<p>  But this doesn&#8217;t apply in this case. What she is accused of is asking for a murder (on Facebook) to be committed so that she could be blamed, arrested, and sent to prison, and she wanted this as a means to get out of her parent&#8217;s house.</p>
<p> In other words, her actions are so unlikely to have resulted in harm that it cannot be seen as a genuine threat. Nor is it reported that she had any connection with animal rights extremists. It is much more likely that she was influenced by mainstream, nonviolent animal rights beliefs and views.</p>
<p>  This is not a case of radicalization of animals rights advocates. In fact the &#8220;cause&#8221; she is supposed to have supported is quite irrelevant. No terrorist organization could ever work this way. It&#8217;s entirely a psychiatric case.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Sims Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404890</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Sims Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does this come under the hate watch or from the Southern Poverty Law Center? Do not fool yourselves. Demonizing folks like this woman undermines your whole cause. She ain&#039;t racist. She ain&#039;t for killing folks because of the color of their skin. She&#039;s poor and young. Just like the folks who end up on death row. So, stop with the hysteria, get a pair, and publish cases worthy of your effort. Oh, and don&#039;t wear fur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does this come under the hate watch or from the Southern Poverty Law Center? Do not fool yourselves. Demonizing folks like this woman undermines your whole cause. She ain&#8217;t racist. She ain&#8217;t for killing folks because of the color of their skin. She&#8217;s poor and young. Just like the folks who end up on death row. So, stop with the hysteria, get a pair, and publish cases worthy of your effort. Oh, and don&#8217;t wear fur.</p>
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		<title>By: scribbij</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404882</link>
		<dc:creator>scribbij</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prison meat will be okay though because they use the whole animal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prison meat will be okay though because they use the whole animal?</p>
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		<title>By: Walterius</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404873</link>
		<dc:creator>Walterius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eco-terrorists organizations are starting to represent a clear and present danger to the public safety of the United States.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eco-terrorists organizations are starting to represent a clear and present danger to the public safety of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Launer</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404864</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Launer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do people think bringing attention to their cause in sucha  way would make people sympathetic to the cause?  In fact the reaction is the opposite.

I knew a group of wealthy women in Aspen in the early &#039;90&#039;s.   The mayor wanted to ban all sale of furs in the city.   And these women had furs - but didn&#039;t like to wear them.  They were actually a little anti-fur.  But to deny them the choice?   To go that far?  They started wearing their furs as a form of protest.   

Or take the imans of the Muslim Brotherhood - after attacking and murdering tourists at the pyramids - they realized (in prison) that the Koran says they should bring people to Islam.   And they realized these brutal acts, the killing of innocent people, was drawing attention to their cause - but it was pushing people away from Islam.    They have since renounced violence.  (Osama didn&#039;t get that memo! )

Or the obnoxious protesters of the &#039;60&#039;s who would say awful things like &quot;LBJ - how many kids did kill today&quot; - didn&#039;t get a peace candidate elected, in fact it got us the opposite; Richard Nixon.   

And then there are wack-a-doodles like this young woman.  Crazy with a Cause - bad combination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people think bringing attention to their cause in sucha  way would make people sympathetic to the cause?  In fact the reaction is the opposite.</p>
<p>I knew a group of wealthy women in Aspen in the early &#8217;90&#8242;s.   The mayor wanted to ban all sale of furs in the city.   And these women had furs &#8211; but didn&#8217;t like to wear them.  They were actually a little anti-fur.  But to deny them the choice?   To go that far?  They started wearing their furs as a form of protest.   </p>
<p>Or take the imans of the Muslim Brotherhood &#8211; after attacking and murdering tourists at the pyramids &#8211; they realized (in prison) that the Koran says they should bring people to Islam.   And they realized these brutal acts, the killing of innocent people, was drawing attention to their cause &#8211; but it was pushing people away from Islam.    They have since renounced violence.  (Osama didn&#8217;t get that memo! )</p>
<p>Or the obnoxious protesters of the &#8217;60&#8242;s who would say awful things like &#8220;LBJ &#8211; how many kids did kill today&#8221; &#8211; didn&#8217;t get a peace candidate elected, in fact it got us the opposite; Richard Nixon.   </p>
<p>And then there are wack-a-doodles like this young woman.  Crazy with a Cause &#8211; bad combination.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404859</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erika,

Wait wait wait. You&#039;re telling me that you and Erica are the SAME PERSON? I need to clean of the wall because my mind has been BLOWN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erika,</p>
<p>Wait wait wait. You&#8217;re telling me that you and Erica are the SAME PERSON? I need to clean of the wall because my mind has been BLOWN.</p>
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		<title>By: Phila</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404820</link>
		<dc:creator>Phila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan,

&lt;i&gt;This case is not about domestic terrorism or animal rights or anything else. The person in this case is simply deranged, deluded or otherwise seriously mentally ill. &lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s some truth to this. In cases like these, the first thing people look at is the label, whether it&#039;s &quot;animal rights activist,&quot; &quot;white nationalist&quot; or whatever. While I definitely see one of these ideologies as more inherently violent and hateful than the other, the fact remains that the vast majority of people in these movements do not and would not behave like Ms. Lowell. The bedrock similarities between violent extremists transcend all their ideological differences; they&#039;re damaged people looking for an issue that gives them a license to kill (in &quot;defense&quot; of something or someone, of course.)

That said, when a movement&#039;s rhetoric starts getting more extreme, it encourages these people to act out their fantasies. And given that this has demonstrably been happening in the animal rights movement -- which I generally support, by the way -- this case definitely &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; about domestic terrorism and animal rights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p><i>This case is not about domestic terrorism or animal rights or anything else. The person in this case is simply deranged, deluded or otherwise seriously mentally ill. </i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s some truth to this. In cases like these, the first thing people look at is the label, whether it&#8217;s &#8220;animal rights activist,&#8221; &#8220;white nationalist&#8221; or whatever. While I definitely see one of these ideologies as more inherently violent and hateful than the other, the fact remains that the vast majority of people in these movements do not and would not behave like Ms. Lowell. The bedrock similarities between violent extremists transcend all their ideological differences; they&#8217;re damaged people looking for an issue that gives them a license to kill (in &#8220;defense&#8221; of something or someone, of course.)</p>
<p>That said, when a movement&#8217;s rhetoric starts getting more extreme, it encourages these people to act out their fantasies. And given that this has demonstrably been happening in the animal rights movement &#8212; which I generally support, by the way &#8212; this case definitely <i>is</i> about domestic terrorism and animal rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404785</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aron, you are ignoring that Ms. Lowell took the precaution of changing two letters in her last name to Lowery to hide her real identity.  That is almost as clever as me trying to hide my identity by using the name Erica]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aron, you are ignoring that Ms. Lowell took the precaution of changing two letters in her last name to Lowery to hide her real identity.  That is almost as clever as me trying to hide my identity by using the name Erica</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404752</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I&#039;m sure that living with one&#039;s parents as a 27 year old is horrible, it can&#039;t possibly be worse than prison.

In some weird way, I do have to applaud her for taking a bold stand in favor of gender equity - usually these cases involving losers getting caught in ill fated criminal plans still living at home long after they should have moved out involve men.

I guess when she is sitting in prison she can at least console herself with thinking &quot;at least I didn&#039;t belong to an antigovernment cell called The Covert Group&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m sure that living with one&#8217;s parents as a 27 year old is horrible, it can&#8217;t possibly be worse than prison.</p>
<p>In some weird way, I do have to applaud her for taking a bold stand in favor of gender equity &#8211; usually these cases involving losers getting caught in ill fated criminal plans still living at home long after they should have moved out involve men.</p>
<p>I guess when she is sitting in prison she can at least console herself with thinking &#8220;at least I didn&#8217;t belong to an antigovernment cell called The Covert Group&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Tobacco</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404583</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Tobacco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Dan Zabetakis,  the sum total of her actions wasn&#039;t just posting on fb or the feds wouldn&#039;t have arrested her.  She met with FBI agents,  made up a plan, and put up consideration for the contract killing of a human being.  She is a nut but she is a dangerous hateful nut.   Did you read &quot;In Cold Blood&quot;? Sometimes nuts meet other nuts and together they can do horrible things.  We are just lucky that she met a FBI agent first.   She needs to be locked up forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Dan Zabetakis,  the sum total of her actions wasn&#8217;t just posting on fb or the feds wouldn&#8217;t have arrested her.  She met with FBI agents,  made up a plan, and put up consideration for the contract killing of a human being.  She is a nut but she is a dangerous hateful nut.   Did you read &#8220;In Cold Blood&#8221;? Sometimes nuts meet other nuts and together they can do horrible things.  We are just lucky that she met a FBI agent first.   She needs to be locked up forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404520</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadow Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That first comment above had me cracking up. But I must concur with that assertion about Mr. Smith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That first comment above had me cracking up. But I must concur with that assertion about Mr. Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Potok</title>
		<link>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/22/animal-rights-activist-charged-with-murder-solicitation-a-first/comment-page-1/#comment-404420</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Potok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do agree that she sounds completely unhinged. Read the affidavit, and that impression becomes even stronger. That said, it&#039;s possible she might have gotten someone killed. But she sounds less concerned about that than having to live with her meat-eating parents. It&#039;s a strange world we live in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that she sounds completely unhinged. Read the affidavit, and that impression becomes even stronger. That said, it&#8217;s possible she might have gotten someone killed. But she sounds less concerned about that than having to live with her meat-eating parents. It&#8217;s a strange world we live in.</p>
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